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Tesco delivery van driver

2 July 2014 - 10:56pm
Coming home from town this afternoon, I needed to change to the right-hand filter lane. I signalled and moved into what I thought was a large enough gap in front of a van. It then switched to the inner lane and pulled up on my left as we both stopped for the traffic lights. The window opened and I braced myself for some abuse even though I reckoned my manoeuvre had been all right. Conversation goes like this:

Him: "Keeping fit, then?"

Me: "Trying to - it's hard work in this wind."

Him: "I know - I like riding my bike but I've got a bad back at the moment and can't go very far."

Me: "Ah, that's bad luck"

Him, as his light changes to green and he drives off: "Have a nice day!"



I thought I'd post as an alternative to the bad experiences.

Re: Nightmare drive

2 July 2014 - 9:05pm
[XAP]Bob wrote:
Why not have them both "one way" for motor vehicles?



Ha ha, a highlands gyratory!

Re: Nightmare drive

2 July 2014 - 9:00pm
Mark1978 wrote:I wonder if you're cycling it would be quicker to go around via the coast route? Not that you would want to mind as where's the fun in that!

Actually the coast route is far more enjoyable than the the pass. The coast route is quieter had a quite a few climbs followed by some long sweeping descents. In fact it is far more fun than playing dodgems with vans and cars on the pass.

And if you are not time trialing the views around the coast are fabulous.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

2 July 2014 - 8:27pm
Sorry, not read all through this thread.

Single track roads?
Good grief, Devon and Cornwall are littered with them, in fact we live on one.

Life is like that round here. Give and take with cars lorries busses and cyclists, let alone pedestrians.

Just two segments of the area.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=gunnis ... 1,,0,-5.71

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=gunnis ... 2,,0,20.16

Re: Nightmare drive

2 July 2014 - 8:11pm
On the subject of reversing uphill for a lower gear, my dear old dad told me that this used to be a regular tactic for getting up Sutton Bank (A class road with stretches of 25%.) There are relatively sharp bends on Sutton Bank so you might have thought that any benefit from a lower gear in reverse would be cancelled out by the difficulty of steering. Even with the modern vehicles of the 21C, there are plenty of problems. There are big signs on the approach road noting the total of HGV's which have got stuck during the last year. Caravans are banned up and down, but when I was driving up there a few weeks ago, there was a large caravan parked on a layby in the bit covered by the ban. The towing vehicle was a Renault Kangoo so you have to query what some drivers have in the space between their ears.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

2 July 2014 - 8:08pm
On Forge Road, Eridge, (East Sussex) which is part of route 21, and connecting roads, I have found that the majority of ?local? motorists are exceptionally courteous. On this hill for example http://goo.gl/maps/UvAEU I've had Range Rovers, utility vans and cars pull right up on the bank and wait for me to climb (slowly) uphill past them. Of course if I'm at the top about to go down and a motor vehicle is coming up the hill I wait. Similarly on the flatter part of the road, there seems to be a mutual respect between me as a cyclist and many vehicle drivers as regards passing and overtaking places with acknowledgements by both parties. I don't know if the route 21 repeater signs have any effect that motorists should expect cyclists to be on this route.

Anyone else use this route with similar experience?

Re: Nightmare drive

2 July 2014 - 7:50pm
brynpoeth wrote:I heard the one about vehicles having to reverse up a steep hill (Arthog hill) because the reverse gear is the lowest. Is it true, does anyone from back then know?

I don't know about the lowest gear, but I do know that my uncle Billy's prewar (very!) car had the petrol tank mounted on the bulkhead above the engine, with a gravity feed from the front down to the carburetter. If the fuel level was low, and the hill was long and very steep, the carb would run dry and it was necessary to turn round and reverse up hill to refill it

Re: Nightmare drive

2 July 2014 - 6:23pm
Mark1978 wrote:But I think for the most part apart from the OP breaking his clutch it isn't a particular problem, traffic levels are relatively low and the road copes.
+1 There really isn't a problem on this road, so long as road users are a little bit competent and considerate.

BTW, the coast road has had a bit of a bad press on this thread. In fact, it's a great road by most standards, with marvellous sea views, mainly two lanes, and plenty of short, steep climbs to test the unwary cyclist, complacent after having climbed the Bealach na Ba.

Re: 2 LeJog deaths: Death by dangerous driving charge

2 July 2014 - 6:16pm
It has long being accepted that the CPS is not fit for purpose and are a bunch of rank amateurs to the detriment of those unfortunate enough to be on the end of wrong doing
Wondering if this was an early guilty plea & thus the sentencing will take that into account and it be another example of ridiculous leniancy

Re: Nightmare drive

2 July 2014 - 6:14pm
thirdcrank wrote:A little birdie has whispered in my ear and pointed out I'm talking about a different road (only several hundred miles away in a different country.Long Mynd, perchance?

Re: Nightmare drive

2 July 2014 - 6:06pm
A little birdie has whispered in my ear and pointed out I'm talking about a different road (only several hundred miles away in a different country. ) Forget the bit about closing the road to motor traffic but I think my points about attitudes are still valid.

And thanks to the little birdie for considering my feelings and not using the megaphone

Manchester Ship Canal

2 July 2014 - 4:55pm
Does anyone know of a cycleway that runs alongside the Manchester Ship Canal?
I did a great Wirral loop at the weekend but hit the proverbial brickwall at Ellesmere Port Boat Museum. The route back to Eastham was peppered with the unsuitable and dangerous. Form Eastham its not too bad, not ideal but doable. If only there were a path alongside the canal; using existing access roads etc. It would make for a great day ride encompasing Wirral, Chester, parts of the Shropshine Union Canal, Chester Greenway etc.

Re: Nightmare drive

2 July 2014 - 4:52pm
Apart from any permanent signage and/or temporary restrictions in place, common-sense and courtesy was seriously lacking.

I'm off to write a stern letter to a shop and demand recompense since my doctor told me i was overweight and it's obviously the food to blame ....

Re: Nightmare drive

2 July 2014 - 4:38pm
[XAP]Bob wrote:Obviously when the pass is closed the coast road is used both ways, but when it's open why not use it "one way".

Obviously the big problem is that drivers will go at unsafe speed if it's one way...

Also there are settlements along the coast road route, would they then be forced to drive for 40 miles over a mountain pass to visit the next town which would otherwise be 2 miles away?

But I do take your point, the Bealach Na Ba could indeed be one way, with the coast road open to two way traffic at all times. But I think for the most part apart from the OP breaking his clutch it isn't a particular problem, traffic levels are relatively low and the road copes.

Re: Nightmare drive

2 July 2014 - 4:33pm
Obviously when the pass is closed the coast road is used both ways, but when it's open why not use it "one way".

Obviously the big problem is that drivers will go at unsafe speed if it's one way...

Re: Appropriate License Plate

2 July 2014 - 4:31pm
BlueMeldon wrote:Misrepresentation used to be a hefty fine, but the 'agency' responsible for registrations has it's finger in the <make-a-quick-profit> pie, so where does the line get drawn and who's left to enforce it ?

Perhaps the offence should carry a different penalty, such as loss of the plate and issue of a new one registered as "SAD1", "SAD2" etc.......obviuously "OV3RC0MPENS4T1NG" won't fit on standard plate !




Indigo Delta One Zero Tango?

Re: Appropriate License Plate

2 July 2014 - 4:14pm
Misrepresentation used to be a hefty fine, but the 'agency' responsible for registrations has it's finger in the <make-a-quick-profit> pie, so where does the line get drawn and who's left to enforce it ?

Perhaps the offence should carry a different penalty, such as loss of the plate and issue of a new one registered as "SAD1", "SAD2" etc.......obviuously "OV3RC0MPENS4T1NG" won't fit on standard plate !

Re: Nightmare drive

2 July 2014 - 3:46pm
Yes the pass gets closed by snow in winter. The coast road is fairly modern and was constructed to provide an alternative in winter where previously the only way to get there was by water. Nevertheless it is not a high quality road, it is single track and its route is circuitous. Better than being isolated in the depths of winter I guess... Most mountain passes are frequently closed in the winter months, that doesn't mean it wouldn't be a great inconvenience to close them permanently all year round. In Applecross' case the volume of traffic is likely to be much greater in the summer months than in the winter

Re: Nightmare drive

2 July 2014 - 3:21pm
What do they do in the winter? The pass must close for snow, at least some years?

Re: Appropriate License Plate

2 July 2014 - 3:08pm
Vantage wrote:[XAP]Bob wrote:Vantage wrote:I'll leave it to someone else on the roads to report it. I can't be bothered. I thought it was mildly amusing
If you tell me where/when it was spotted then i'll report it. PM is fine (don't need everyone reporting the same image.)

Pm sent Bob.
I've googled this reporting business and couldn't find any info whatsoever.
I do have to wonder, if the plate is in fact modified illegally, how would the relevant authority dig up the owners address from a plate that doesn't actually exist on record?
It's illegally modified, but the actual character sequence just takes a little parsing, then it will go into the normal dB for looking up people who haven't paid their TV license

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