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Re: Doored cyclist almost run over - good driving?

9 August 2015 - 8:53pm
robing wrote:People seem obsessed with apportioning blame on this forum.

It seems to me that the first step in stopping incidents like this happening again is to work out why this one happened.

Re: Pride comes before a fall

9 August 2015 - 8:44pm
Whatever the rights and wrongs of this video I find the statements made by the car driver alarming and actually indicate his attitude towards non motorists.
"How f$$$$ big is that bicycle?"

.......You're f$$$$ lucky I didn't hit you then!"

"Are you a f$$$$ taxi? No. Are you a car? No, but you're a f$$$$ little bicycle" - driver indicates a narrow width with his hands - "but you seem to want to be in the middle of the road so it's your problem if you get knocked off"

So basically he can drive into anyone who isn't in a vehicle!

It's reported "The video now has more than 3 million views on YouTube and after the incident, Thames Valley Police confirmed an investigation was carried out into the incident. A caution for a public order offence was handed to the driver on Saturday, August 1."

Unfortunately this driver is not alone in his attitude. I had a similar conversation, but not heated like this, with an (elderly) - like me - driver in Tunbridge Wells who had passed me very closer when I was standing with bike at the side of a road. He had exactly the same attitude; if you're in the road you can expect to hit. Amongst his other moans was cyclists hold up traffic on Major York's Road (if anyone knows it) and should be riding on the pavement. That road is narrowed by legally parked cars, but they weren't the problem according to him!

Re: Doored cyclist almost run over - good driving?

9 August 2015 - 8:39pm
robing wrote:People seem obsessed with apportioning blame on this forum. But it's no good lying in the hospital bed saying it was the parked car's fault, or relying on the quick reflexes of a taxi driver to avoid being run over. I repeat, if you ride so close to a line of parked cars, sooner or later you are going to get doored.

I don't ride in the door zone, but what you're conveniently forgetting are some of the less pleasant and dangerous side-effects of riding five feet beyond parked cars: tailgating, verbal abuse, close, punishment passes, getting clipped by a wing mirror, getting brake tested, getting hit from behind etc. I've been the victim of all of these different consequences when avoiding the door zone over the last 20 years.

Re: St ives, Cornwall

9 August 2015 - 8:12pm
Jeremy Bond wrote:St Ives is an excellent place for cycling and relaxing. I have three routes for you to consider
1. The coastal road from St Ives to St Just on the B3306 is widely regarded as the most scenic road in the South West. As the road winds through the heath and moorland you will see the patchwork of iron-age fields, unchanged for centuries. Views from the road are spectacular looking over the cliffs to the ocean beyond.......
Have a great time in Cornwall.
Jeremy, as I've said before you should really consider setting up as a travel business

Re: St ives, Cornwall

9 August 2015 - 7:18pm
Jeremy Bond wrote:St Ives is an excellent place for cycling and relaxing. I have three routes for you to consider

1. The coastal road from St Ives to St Just on the B3306 is widely regarded as the most scenic road in the South West. As the road winds through the heath and moorland you will see the patchwork of iron-age fields, unchanged for centuries. Views from the road are spectacular looking over the cliffs to the ocean beyond.

2. Hayle is fine for cycling. After the climb out of St Ives on the A3074 it’s a fast ride into Lelant and then onto the Hayle Causeway which takes you in Hayle. If you follow the national cycle network 3 signs you will be taken on King George V Memorial Walk which runs beside the estuary. The B3301 will take you to Gwithan Towans or Godrevy where you can get up and close to the lighthouse you can see from St Ives.

3. St Michaels Mount is not far from St Ives, you can cycle on the country lanes through Towednack, Nancledra, Crowlas (straight over the A30) and at Gwallon just follow the national cycle network 3 signs to the Mount.

Hope this has given you some food for thought

Have a great time in Cornwall.

That's great thanks for that, that's just what ive been looking for !

Re: Doored cyclist almost run over - good driving?

9 August 2015 - 6:14pm
If you ride in primary, in hi viz, with flashing lights, bells and whistles, sooner or later you're going to get run over.

Re: Doored cyclist almost run over - good driving?

9 August 2015 - 6:04pm
robing wrote:People seem obsessed with apportioning blame on this forum. But it's no good lying in the hospital bed saying it was the parked car's fault, or relying on the quick reflexes of a taxi driver to avoid being run over. I repeat, if you ride so close to a line of parked cars, sooner or later you are going to get doored.
That doesn't make it a cyclists fault in any way shape or form.

The secondary blame is with the engineers who design suicide lanes all over our road network, with the police and judiciary who fail to deal with poor driving.

Re: Doored cyclist almost run over - good driving?

9 August 2015 - 6:00pm
People seem obsessed with apportioning blame on this forum. But it's no good lying in the hospital bed saying it was the parked car's fault, or relying on the quick reflexes of a taxi driver to avoid being run over. I repeat, if you ride so close to a line of parked cars, sooner or later you are going to get doored.

Re: Proper use of an A Gate

9 August 2015 - 6:00pm
mjr wrote:Rather than relying on some of your friends are disabled, it seems better to measure the barriers against the maximum permitted sizes for mobility scooters.

Another bike was damaged by barriers on yesterday's ride. New route to us, barrier much tighter than it should be. I'll report it but there's no good reason for a barrier on an unfenced path over green space between two roads. Any half decent motorcyclist can ride over smooth grass! They're mainly a trap for law abiding cyclists who try to stay on the tarmac so as not to damage the grass

What we did was install an A-frame as recommended by the manufacturer who, in turn, had designed it around wheelchairs and mobility scooters, then we tested with a wheelchair and a mobility scooter to make sure. We found that an otherwise okay piece of kit could be made difficult to use if there was insufficient space to line up the bike / wheelchair / mobility scooter.

Re: New Bike

9 August 2015 - 6:00pm
Tonyf33 wrote:I very much approve of the colour scheme, big thumbs up from me, understated, simple and classy and the colour combination works great

+ 1

Re: St ives, Cornwall

9 August 2015 - 4:22pm
St Ives is an excellent place for cycling and relaxing. I have three routes for you to consider

1. The coastal road from St Ives to St Just on the B3306 is widely regarded as the most scenic road in the South West. As the road winds through the heath and moorland you will see the patchwork of iron-age fields, unchanged for centuries. Views from the road are spectacular looking over the cliffs to the ocean beyond.

2. Hayle is fine for cycling. After the climb out of St Ives on the A3074 it’s a fast ride into Lelant and then onto the Hayle Causeway which takes you in Hayle. If you follow the national cycle network 3 signs you will be taken on King George V Memorial Walk which runs beside the estuary. The B3301 will take you to Gwithan Towans or Godrevy where you can get up and close to the lighthouse you can see from St Ives.

3. St Michaels Mount is not far from St Ives, you can cycle on the country lanes through Towednack, Nancledra, Crowlas (straight over the A30) and at Gwallon just follow the national cycle network 3 signs to the Mount.

Hope this has given you some food for thought

Have a great time in Cornwall.

Re: New Bike

9 August 2015 - 3:02pm
Back in the late 1960s a clubmate of mine had those colours. I thought it looked elegant and understated. These days I suppose people would say retro. Still looks good to me.

Re: New Bike

9 August 2015 - 2:25pm
Do like that colour scheme. I've been playing ion the Mercian Bike Builder to configure my next bike (saving in progress), but hadn't tried that combination. Was looking at plum with cream highlights, but that looks at least as nice!

Re: Proper use of an A Gate

9 August 2015 - 12:34pm
Rather than relying on some of your friends are disabled, it seems better to measure the barriers against the maximum permitted sizes for mobility scooters.

Another bike was damaged by barriers on yesterday's ride. New route to us, barrier much tighter than it should be. I'll report it but there's no good reason for a barrier on an unfenced path over green space between two roads. Any half decent motorcyclist can ride over smooth grass! They're mainly a trap for law abiding cyclists who try to stay on the tarmac so as not to damage the grass

Re: Doored cyclist almost run over - good driving?

9 August 2015 - 10:44am
[XAP]Bob wrote:What the ${expletive} is wrong with people on here.

The cyclist was doing exactly what they are always told.
The taxi driver left about an inch too little space (better than a bus a couple of years ago).
The driver of the parked car was entirely at fault.

+1
And all three weren't expecting the unexpected,though the taxi driver did manage to respond to the unexpected situation rather well IMHO.

Re: St ives, Cornwall

9 August 2015 - 10:05am
Eyebrox wrote:Big hills abound. St Ives is, of course, built on a hill. Try a ride out to Clodgy Point via Burthallan Lane and Ayr Road. Incredible views and the road struggles to accommodate the width of a car in some places. Enjoy.

Thanks, been looking at riding there as we have walked there on the coast path before.
So looking forward to getting out on the lane's and seeing the lovely coast Cornwall has to offer.

I was thinking of riding off towards Hayle one day but unsure if its suitable for riding being a popular holiday town.

Re: Proper use of an A Gate

9 August 2015 - 9:32am
TimP wrote:pwa wrote:I think the catalogue term for the A-frame things is something like "motorcycle inhibitor", if we are being picky.
Sadly they are also wheelchair inhibitors.
In the case shown in the photo the wheelchair is the only thing blocked (hard to manage curbs). everything else will clearly go round in the roadway thus putting themselves in danger and maybe causing accidents. It is a case of being worse than useless.

I have installed a few A-frames, and having installed them I enlisted the help of a wheelchair using colleague to test them. We also tested them with fairly large mobility scooters.

Re: Proper use of an A Gate

9 August 2015 - 9:29am
Paulatic wrote:Spotted this barrier posted on Twitter it's in South Lanarkshire

To judge that barrier fairly you would need to know the context. That could, for instance, be a permissive path where the landowner is keen on letting horses pass unhindered but wants to deter motor vehicles (including motorcycles). That step through gate could have replaced a simple full gate with a lock on it. It could be that the track, later on, is rough and unsuited to cyclists who are not ready and able to dismount and push. Context is important when judging access point infrastructure.

Re: Doored cyclist almost run over - good driving?

9 August 2015 - 7:58am
What the ${expletive} is wrong with people on here.

The cyclist was doing exactly what they are always told.
The taxi driver left about an inch too little space (better than a bus a couple of years ago).
The driver of the parked car was entirely at fault.

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