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Re: Off The bike for a while

15 September 2014 - 12:54pm
Must be the season for off's
I have my first decent one a dew days ago, when a motorbike pulled out on me.

Bike survived well, & apart from a sore knee/elbow the biggest impact was my left side where I landed on the motorbikes handlebars.

Re: Action on Dangerous Drivers - Worth the Effort

15 September 2014 - 12:51pm
If the vehicle has livery and so can be identified I do not hesitate to contact the company. I am not concerned for the driver's employment only that they drive correctly. I've pasted a correspondence I had recently with a local firm -
me:- yesterday evening 7:15 your van passed me at speed and
> dangerously close - (Brockley Combe) Can I ask that your driver takes a
> look at the following site :
> https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-t ... 162-to-169
> before they kill someone
them:- Thank-you for finding the time to advise of a potential problem. Having
viewed the recordings of yesterday I am able to tell you the maximum
recorded speed of the vehicle never exceeded 42 mph. Also at no time was the
vehicle within 1 metre of any obstacle.
Therefore the conclusion is the vehicle was not speeding, and certainly not
dangerously close to any obstruction
me:- "give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car." - Highway code rule 163
this is not what happened yesterday - at 40mph overtaking a cycle a van needs to pull out enough to make it safe to overtake. All I'm asking is that you have a word with the driver.
them:- I will pass on your comments, again thank-you for the time taken to record this information
Although their initial response is to deny that the incident took place, I do think that the complaint is worth making - if they start getting more of them regarding one driver I'm sure they will look at the viability of keeping that person behind the wheel.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

15 September 2014 - 12:40pm
That's all well and good but when you have a two tonne car approaching you at 40mph things can look a bit different.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

15 September 2014 - 12:37pm
The only way to prevent people from attempting to share where there isn't room, is to ensure that there really isn't room by riding out in the middle, or just left of centre until motor vehicle drivers have slowed enough to pass safely.

I've seldom seen any signs at all, except the occasional 'single track road with passing palces' at the beginning of a lane. Essex and Suffolk, at least seldom bother even with that much. Most of the places in the East of England that are posted that way begin wide enough for two vehicles, then narrow to single track after the first couple of farms.

Etape Cymru 2014

15 September 2014 - 11:52am
I blogged about the 2014 Etape Cymru from the POV of me as supporter and son as participant.
http://geoffnelder.wordpress.com/2014/0 ... ather-son/
In spite of niggles of a late start and lack of veggie energy bars, it was a marvellous, unforgettable day. I'm tempted to slim down, keep taking my heart meds, and register for next year!

Re: More Dawes bashing?

15 September 2014 - 10:52am
honesty wrote:... the T551 crank is listed in their none groupset component section, but looks to be at Deore level

EDIT: found it on their line ups, and its actually LX level, not Deore, and definitely not sub Deore as the OP said:
http://productinfo.shimano.com/lineupchart.html#series=deore_lx&speed=3x10

There is one for sale on the forum at: http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=90018. The cheapest I could find it to buy new was over £70. I think 48-36-26T is a good choice for a touring chainset, plus it's easy enough to fit a 22t inner if required.

Not sure if 10 speed stuff is necessary for a tourer or if it will mix and match with 7/8/9 speed components, but looks like that's where things are headed for new touring bikes.

Re: More Dawes bashing?

15 September 2014 - 10:47am
Ok, so for clarity the ultra has:

Tiagra level triple shifters, triple front derailleur (highest level of either that Shimano currently do) and cassette
LX level crank, bb, and hubs
105 level rear derailleur and brakes

remember 105 is the road equivalent of LX, so apart from those parts that they physically cannot get, Dawes have fitted LX level across the board (Well apart from the cassette, but that makes sense to me)

Brooks saddle, Tubus rear rack (considered better than a Blackburn one), and marathon tyres are all pretty much best in class.
Alex rims are probably a cost saving exercise, but good for touring.

Seems a pretty decent setup if you ask me. As you can get last years model at a pretty hefty discount paying RRP would be a bit mad on this bike though!

Re: More Dawes bashing?

15 September 2014 - 10:19am
oh, forgot about OLN, good catch.

Another thing to say is they have 105 level disc brakes (BR R517), so thats going to add to the price as well.

I've finally checked on the shimano tech docs website (doesnt open well on my phone) at the T551 crank is listed in their none groupset component section, but looks to be at Deore level

EDIT: found it on their line ups, and its actually LX level, not Deore, and definitely not sub Deore as the OP said:
http://productinfo.shimano.com/lineupchart.html#series=deore_lx&speed=3x10

Cyclist hurt in Colchester - Police appeal

15 September 2014 - 10:18am
This, posted by Essex Police, came onto my radar via Facebook
Essex Police wrote:Can you help us find the car involved in a collision with a cyclist [on Saturday] at 4.40pm on Colne Causeway, #Colchester. The driver drove off towards the Greenstead roundabout, leaving the cyclist on the ground with a serious head injury. The driver failed to stop at the scene of the crash and the cyclist is in a stable condition in hospital.

We are looking for a silver Ford car (could be a Fiesta or Focus) on either an '07' or '57' registration plate. It will be missing a wing mirror and may have damage to the bonnet and/or windscreen. The driver of this car needs to contact us and anyone who thinks they can help us is urged to call us on 101 or 01245 491491 or via email collisionappeal@essex.pnn.police.uk

You can help us by sharing this appeal.
Essex road collision.jpg
(I've not found a direct web link to it)

Rick.

Re: More Dawes bashing?

15 September 2014 - 10:07am
wearwell wrote:My Dawes Galaxy Tour 2004 has been utterly brilliant, good value for money and still going strong. Everything original except rims and other consumables, sprockets etc.

+1. I bought my 2004 model in spring 2005 at a substantially reduced price, has been superb. If I was forced to choose only one from the five bikes I own it would be the Galaxy.

Re: More Dawes bashing?

15 September 2014 - 9:48am
honesty wrote:LondonBikeCommuter wrote:DaveGos wrote:you would not want to use a F1 engine on a family car it would break down after a few 100 miles

I'm not calling for a Dura-Ace Ultra Galaxy but what would be wrong with full Ultegra or even full 105 versions... Dawes are after all charging £1800. Are these group sets considered unreliable? And if not what would make them unsuitable?

I ask in part because if I did build up an Ultra Galaxy frame I'd use full Ultegra apart from brakes and wheels.

Because current 105 and ultegra don't do triple shifters or triple cranks. Because current 105 and ultegra only have mid cage rear derailleurs which may support up to a cassette of 32 but only with a double up front. Shimano have in their wisdom removed triples from anything above tiagra so you just cannot do it.Also, Ultergra hubs are 130 OLN road standard. Tourers use 135 MTB spec hubs. Anyway, aren't the hubs LX (which is 105 equivlent), so a little more than £60 a pair.

The rack wasn't a Blackburn? Is Tubus cro-mo steel no good to you?

You seem to be caught up on the 'mish mash' of components. Sometimes this results from pricing a bike to a price and because there is no drop-bar specific touring group set. As was said above, you could spec and fit a 9 speed MTB rear mech, but they aren't generally available now on the higher groupo's. Which is why Dawes fit the 105 with a 11?-30 cassette. And that is why I choose to build up my own tourer, complete with a wonderful mish-mash of parts

BTW, I'm sure the front badge wasn't peeling - it's hard plastic. Just the protective film you get on new stuff.

Re: Off The bike for a while

15 September 2014 - 8:23am
Sorry to hear about your off, get well and back on the bike soon! I've never cycled in Ireland, one thing I've missed out on - but I remember driving around the Ring of Beara many years ago - noted what a lonely desolate area it is (compared to the much more touristy Ring of Kerry). Beara must be a dream for cycling - but very hilly!

Re: Off The bike for a while

15 September 2014 - 7:27am
Thanks to everyone for the messages of support. I can thoroughly recommend the area for cycle touring. It can get busy in July/August but at this time of the year the roads are very quiet.

Re: More Dawes bashing?

14 September 2014 - 11:16pm
I would ignore the £1800 tag. Dawes are one of those brands where you can always save massively on their RRP

Re: More Dawes bashing?

14 September 2014 - 9:17pm
LondonBikeCommuter wrote:DaveGos wrote:you would not want to use a F1 engine on a family car it would break down after a few 100 miles

I'm not calling for a Dura-Ace Ultra Galaxy but what would be wrong with full Ultegra or even full 105 versions... Dawes are after all charging £1800. Are these group sets considered unreliable? And if not what would make them unsuitable?

I ask in part because if I did build up an Ultra Galaxy frame I'd use full Ultegra apart from brakes and wheels.

Ultegra is very high end and expensive , why do you want that, I race on a 7 year old 105 and its fine.

These are all primarily designed for road bikes with fairly close ratios , what kind of shifters do you want and are yu planning on using a triple of compact double , They all have an effect on what is available. Also a modern lets say 105 is better than an ultegra from some years ago. Also how many gears as the modern stuff has thinner chains for 11 and 10 speed blocks , which does not really fit in with the concept of a do everything reliable war horse. Often MTB equipment can be better for a touring bike ( if it will work with drops) than road stuff - Gives more suitable gear ratios

Seems the marketeers have got to you and you are more bothered about where the equipment is in the Shimano hierarchy rather than its functionality

Re: More Dawes bashing?

14 September 2014 - 9:08pm
LondonBikeCommuter wrote:DaveGos wrote:you would not want to use a F1 engine on a family car it would break down after a few 100 miles

I'm not calling for a Dura-Ace Ultra Galaxy but what would be wrong with full Ultegra or even full 105 versions... Dawes are after all charging £1800. Are these group sets considered unreliable? And if not what would make them unsuitable?

I ask in part because if I did build up an Ultra Galaxy frame I'd use full Ultegra apart from brakes and wheels.

Because current 105 and ultegra don't do triple shifters or triple cranks. Because current 105 and ultegra only have mid cage rear derailleurs which may support up to a cassette of 32 but only with a double up front. Shimano have in their wisdom removed triples from anything above tiagra so you just cannot do it.

Re: More Dawes bashing?

14 September 2014 - 9:05pm
My Dawes 1-Down that I bought in 1999 (I think ) came with RSX groupset, not bottom of the range but not top and has been fine was £649 then compared to £599 for a Galaxy. Best bike I have ever had. I originally bought it on a whim as the YHA Adventure shop was giving a 20% discount so I got it for £520. The Dawes Galaxy at the time also had RSX I think

Re: Off The bike for a while

14 September 2014 - 9:00pm
Sorry to hear of your injury. I was there in July. Did a fantastic tour of Ireland starting in Rosslare, down to Mizen Head, up the west coast to Malin Head and finished in Belfast. Get well soon and enjoy Ireland next time.

Re: More Dawes bashing?

14 September 2014 - 8:57pm
karlt wrote:J e James has never really recognised that touring bikes exist.Exactly it. He talked as though touring/audaxing was a tiny minority activity long out of fashion. We felt like some sort of perverts!
We ended up with Vernon Barker in Dronfield - a mine of information and very helpful. We haven't bought anything yet but he is top of the list at the mo.
http://www.vernonbarkercycles.co.uk/

Re: More Dawes bashing?

14 September 2014 - 8:37pm
DaveGos wrote:you would not want to use a F1 engine on a family car it would break down after a few 100 miles

I'm not calling for a Dura-Ace Ultra Galaxy but what would be wrong with full Ultegra or even full 105 versions... Dawes are after all charging £1800. Are these group sets considered unreliable? And if not what would make them unsuitable?

I ask in part because if I did build up an Ultra Galaxy frame I'd use full Ultegra apart from brakes and wheels.

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