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Re: Wrong way up a one way street.

6 August 2014 - 4:40pm
IME the phrase "except cycles" is quite invisible to motorists. Strangely cycle path signage is much more visible. Almost as visible as cyclists with no lights in fact

Re: Wrong way up a one way street.

6 August 2014 - 2:19pm
Bicycler wrote:Ah but locals will know that there is such a sign and will take the opportunity to chastise you for going the wrong way. It probably is locals which do this anyway. A stranger might be less sure of his ground and wonder if he'd missed a sign.
But a local will also get to see said exception sign fairly regularly as well - and the newspaper comments complaining about said signage

Re: BT Openreach cyclists stay back

6 August 2014 - 1:11pm
Cusqueno wrote:ArMoRothair wrote:Good news from today http://www.lfgss.com/post4304160-146.html

But, after more than a month, nothing seems to have been done - London buses are still (all) carrying the sticker.
I saw a Virgin Cable van with one on the other day. I feel they are becoming more widespread not less as TfL said.

Ian

Re: BT Openreach cyclists stay back

6 August 2014 - 1:08pm
ArMoRothair wrote:Good news from today http://www.lfgss.com/post4304160-146.html

But, after more than a month, nothing seems to have been done - London buses are still (all) carrying the sticker.

Re: Private 'toll road' - cyclists not welcome.

6 August 2014 - 12:35pm
looks like a sinder track to me? bumpity bump bump bump lol.

Re: Private 'toll road' - cyclists not welcome.

6 August 2014 - 12:19pm
661-Pete wrote: should someone take it up with this bloke, in no uncertain terms?

I expect it's due to insurance or elfin stupidity or something. The private toll road at Porlock similarly says "no cycling", but they take no notice if you do.

Re: BT Openreach cyclists stay back

6 August 2014 - 12:04pm
My sticker's been on the back of the car for a few weeks now. It' seen spotted by at least two cyclists, who were out taking down the signs for an event that they'd run the day before. The first reaction was "why does a car need one of those stupid 'stay back' stickers?" Then they noticed the slight change of wording

Re: Wrong way up a one way street.

6 August 2014 - 11:59am
[XAP]Bob wrote:kwackers wrote:[XAP]Bob wrote:But then they won't have seen the no entry sign either....

So they won't know it's an "exit only" far end.
That's not really what I meant.
If the 'no entry' end has a 'except cycles' sign on it then it's meaningless to any drivers travelling the right way down the road and so you'd still get hassle off them as you use the contra-flow.
But there is no sign that you've "disobeyed" they've not passed the no entry sign (with or without the except cycles sign) yet...
Ah but locals will know that there is such a sign and will take the opportunity to chastise you for going the wrong way. It probably is locals which do this anyway. A stranger might be less sure of his ground and wonder if he'd missed a sign.

Re: Private 'toll road' - cyclists not welcome.

6 August 2014 - 11:49am
This reminds me I need to try to make a loop out of the Kelston road and the Railway path before they fix it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LVTqCnH-Bg

EDIT :- on second thoughts my bike is probably a bit too heavy for that.

Re: Private 'toll road' - cyclists not welcome.

6 August 2014 - 11:33am
Not definitive I know, but Google Maps marks the toll road (& routes you that way if you do directions by car) & marks the main road as a Cycle route ("Dirt/unpaved track" if you click on the "Bicycling" option & routes you that way in the cycle route option). (Link)

Rick.

Re: Wrong way up a one way street.

6 August 2014 - 10:50am
kwackers wrote:If however he meant on the start of the road under the one way arrow then I'm unsure that's any less clear than the contraflow sign anyway which is fairly large and obvious...

What I wanted to know was which end the poster was thinking of.
I was thinking of the "one way" arrow but on rereading "Signing the Way", figure 5.6 shows a new contraflow sign to replace the ordinary arrow. I'm not sure that's as good as putting "except :bike:" under the plain arrow.

Re: Wrong way up a one way street.

6 August 2014 - 10:48am
Bicycler wrote:What about 'false one-way streets' ie. ones where there is a no entry sign at one end meaning there is only through traffic in one direction but the road itself is two way. I've been criticised for riding the 'wrong way' down one of those several times.
We have a couple of them here. I ride through the No Entry sign very slowly and carefully, or get off and walk past it, then ride away happily.

Re: Private 'toll road' - cyclists not welcome.

6 August 2014 - 10:47am
From the comments,. discussing the lack of speed limit due to the lack of surfacing - and the recommendation to do no more than 10mph (which IMHO makes it a great cycle route):
Is it even possible to drive 10 mph? I'm not counting backing out of one's driveway...
Me thinks someone needs to retake their driving test...


Of course it may be that the main road isn't so bad that the weight of cyclists is a concern...

Re: Private 'toll road' - cyclists not welcome.

6 August 2014 - 10:46am
He's trying to get thousands of drivers a day through his narrow 'farm track', I suspect the no cycling policy is born of necessity rather than malice.

Besides it's a private road and he can do what he likes so in that respect I don't see what the issue is.

(I did note he'd applied for retrospective planning, so if you're after a 'way in' then that may well be the best route).

Re: Private 'toll road' - cyclists not welcome.

6 August 2014 - 10:43am
On other reports it mentions that pedestrians and cyclists are still allowed to use the normal road (which is of course free ).

Not that many would be there in the first place as they would be using the Bristol-Bath cyclepath.

This is one of the few occasions where cyclists (and pedestrians) do seem to be far better catered for than the motorists!

Private 'toll road' - cyclists not welcome.

6 August 2014 - 10:36am
This:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/shor ... mentpage=1
(you need to watch the video to see the 'no cyclists' sign).

Anyone know the area? Do cyclists have an alternative? If not, should someone take it up with this bloke, in no uncertain terms?

I and my family were seriously inconvenienced by a lengthy road closure in our area, earlier this year, the only alternative for cyclists was a busy main road. At least no-one tried to set up a toll road alongside...

Re: Wrong way up a one way street.

6 August 2014 - 9:33am
kwackers wrote:[XAP]Bob wrote:But then they won't have seen the no entry sign either....

So they won't know it's an "exit only" far end.
That's not really what I meant.
If the 'no entry' end has a 'except cycles' sign on it then it's meaningless to any drivers travelling the right way down the road and so you'd still get hassle off them as you use the contra-flow.

If however he meant on the start of the road under the one way arrow then I'm unsure that's any less clear than the contraflow sign anyway which is fairly large and obvious...

What I wanted to know was which end the poster was thinking of.
But there is no sign that you've "disobeyed" they've not passed the no entry sign (with or without the except cycles sign) yet...

Re: Dissertation Birmingham Commuters

6 August 2014 - 8:56am
As both my wife and I are no longer commuters we can not help directly.

But you may find Birmingham Cyclists Forum helpful.
Assuming that you did not know of them before.

Re: Wrong way up a one way street.

6 August 2014 - 8:52am
[XAP]Bob wrote:But then they won't have seen the no entry sign either....

So they won't know it's an "exit only" far end.
That's not really what I meant.
If the 'no entry' end has a 'except cycles' sign on it then it's meaningless to any drivers travelling the right way down the road and so you'd still get hassle off them as you use the contra-flow.

If however he meant on the start of the road under the one way arrow then I'm unsure that's any less clear than the contraflow sign anyway which is fairly large and obvious...

What I wanted to know was which end the poster was thinking of.

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