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Re: Commuting lights

19 January 2016 - 6:10pm
661-Pete wrote:It's the wheel build issue that stops me going the hub route, too: I have no skill in wheel building and anyway it makes swapping out a wheel complicated.
Swapping out the wheel is almost exactly the same - just an easy snap connection to disconnect first, which is quicker than the QR...

I have no wheel building skill either - I decided to teach myself, and laced a wheel and started to put tension on the spokes.....
Then decided I couldn't spare the time, so my lbs charged me £10 to true the wheel... Bargain!

Re: Are unclassified roads getting much muddier

19 January 2016 - 5:59pm
And council tax hasn't increased for 6 years. Why the complaints??
Rail fares have an inflation busting annual increase.

Re: Lightset on ebay, thought I'd share

19 January 2016 - 5:46pm
Tonyf33 wrote: I'm not sure where the 3000LUX came from as even BBB don't mention it on their own website!
The packaging on the ebay link.
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Re: Is it my road position?

19 January 2016 - 5:26pm
Well, what a surprise

Had something very similar a while ago, white van, wrong gear, then he missed his change. He was not best impressed when I shouted, 'Its in there somewhere, you [rude word removed]' was quite funny though

Re: Are unclassified roads getting much muddier

19 January 2016 - 4:39pm
Some of us have lived in the same place and used the same roads for 30+years ............and even the lane on which we live has seen terrible deterioration.

They ain't cleaning the roads, they ain't maintaining the roads, and they ain't clearing out ditches and drainage.
They used to, but they ain't now.

Re: Are unclassified roads getting much muddier

19 January 2016 - 4:17pm
Paulatic wrote:Fifty year ago driving onto a grass verge was frowned upon. Now it's an everyday event.
Fifty year ago there were no 4x4 tractors in exceptionally wet times as of recent you couldn't have got onto the fields and off again. You had to wait for drier conditions.
There were also no phones distracting drivers, I'm sure a lot of the deep ruts seen just on the side of the Tarmac are caused by running off the road while looking at a text.
4x4 tractors started to become available for small farmers as war surplus GP vehicles (jeeps) a little over 50 years ago. 4x4 recreational vehicles also started out from these, admittedly were less prevalent than now. However a lot of the wash-off of mud onto roads is not caused (around here at least) by vehicles, but by the fact that gates and gaps in downhill corners allow mud to wash off the fields onto the lower roads. Whilst less ditch digging may increase this effect, it would always have happened in heavy rain once the soil is waterlogged.

I suspect that 50 years ago there would have been many fewer living in the countryside without experience of/ relatives involved in agriculture and that the mud was just as prevalent in similar conditions then, just less moaned about by people conditioned to 'clean' urban environments and roads.

Re: Is it my road position?

19 January 2016 - 4:01pm
Just got back from a ride. Quite a few closeish passes, despite my taking a good position, but there it is.
However, the worst one was a white van - 30mph limit, me doing about 12mph, traffic coming the other way, decided to overtake me despite it, and despite the fact they the van only crossed the last car, so a split second later and s/he could have had all the other carriageway to do it in.
The van had to slow down so much to squeeze past it ended up in the wrong gear for its speed and nearly stalled.
I thought, as it passed, 'I wonder if I will be able to identify this twit?'
(Given the first post on this thread I think some people will now be seeing where this is going)

White van.....as it passes I see on the tailgate emergency vehicle markings.....and the lettering:
'Local Policing Team'



I wonder if the driver is 'a cyclist too'?

Re: Commuting lights

19 January 2016 - 3:47pm
Have a look at these, they were on an earlier thread:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121573725963

The reviews on them are pretty good. I have used Cateyes in the past and not been happy with them. My last set of rechargeables were a set of electrons which were cheap and fantastic. They were dual lights; one spot one wide but this was a few years ago. On the rear I used Blackburn Mars and Fleas. I have moved to a dyno front and rear, but still use the Mars and Fleas as extra lights on clothing or saddle bags. They both are very, very good.

Re: Commuting lights

19 January 2016 - 3:36pm
I carry and use 2 front and 2 rear. It's less backup as two different types of light. One for visibility the other to see. I've used battery on and off for years. It's never been an issue. I've ridden dynamo bikes too but not often. I'm perfectly happy with battery/rechargeable battery lights. I'm sure I can ask for advise on the best dynamo lighting system in another thread if I need that advise. To be fair I didn't make our clear that I'm looking for battery/rechargeable battery lights in my
original post. Ask a question on a forum without defining it precisely and you end up with answers to questions that to your mind you never asked. Not having a go at anyone but seriously I can decide that I prefer battery lights rather than dynamo ones, might not make sense to you, but does to me.

Re: Lightset on ebay, thought I'd share

19 January 2016 - 3:30pm
Vitara wrote:Thanks for the link. I've been on the lookout for something similar for a while so have bought a set, was able to collect as well so have them already and saved the delivery charge. They do not come with the helmet mount. Initial impression is that they work well and are worth the money.

In my case I was after decent lights that could be used in conjunction with my bar bag, which obscures lights mounted in the usual bar top position. The fixing on these lights allow them to be mounted on the very bottom of the drops, on the inside. In this position the beams clear the bag, they don't interfere with my hand positions, can easily be switched on & off, and the lights can be swivelled if required to provide a higher or lower beam. They should be ideal for some night rides I'm planning, although a battery life test is still required.
thanks for that, I was going to ask my cousin to pick them up for me as she's less than 1/2 mile away and I thought the postage a bit excessive, really was tempted to buy two sets just for the extra battery and muliple mounts for other bikes.

Re: Changing riding style mid ride

19 January 2016 - 3:20pm
My grand theft auto moment isn't really that violent. I just wish a year of cycle commuting in rush hour on them. I still believe every driving ban should be accompanied by an enforced cycle commute to.replace the car journey.

Of course anything involving a cyclist at the receiving end involves the motorist watching the cyclist press the button on the car crusher and seeing his/her car getting crushed (or company car, hire car, etc.). Can you imagine telling your boss that you need a day off to see company property being destroyed because you had knocked a cyclist off? Ho hum!

I prefer non-violent punishment. Hit them in the wallet or their auto-emotion or make them sweat due to fear and exercise in rush hour. Would.help the health of the nation too!

Re: Changing riding style mid ride

19 January 2016 - 3:09pm
LollyKat wrote:I find that riding with a calculated random wobble works well.
With me that means a headset that needs attention or in the case of my ancient road bike the quill steerer that's dodgy. Either way I learn to use the wobble well.

Re: Are unclassified roads getting much muddier

19 January 2016 - 3:07pm
Fifty year ago driving onto a grass verge was frowned upon. Now it's an everyday event.
Fifty year ago there were no 4x4 tractors in exceptionally wet times as of recent you couldn't have got onto the fields and off again. You had to wait for drier conditions.
There were also no phones distracting drivers, I'm sure a lot of the deep ruts seen just on the side of the Tarmac are caused by running off the road while looking at a text.

Re: Changing riding style mid ride

19 January 2016 - 2:52pm
Not so much on my shorter rides as I follow a single route that is one way all offroad/cycle track and the other way is road marked cycle lanes but, on longer rides where the magic white lines disappear and after a number of closer than I'd like passes I do get into the mindset that I'm taking all the room I want and to hell with what the drivers think about me holding them up. By this time unfortunately I have stopped enjoying the ride as much and spend alot of it thinking about what my response will be to the next selfish arrogant sod that dares treat me like a cyclist. My Grand Theft Auto response is to pull out the bazooka and turn his/her car/van/truck into a smoking pile of molten steel but the real me just gets on with it, after either silently swearing at them or shouting blue murder at them. Depending on my mood of course

Re: Commuting lights

19 January 2016 - 1:34pm
I seem to have started this thread of replies in a direction you really didn't want to go - sorry about that.

For the rear, rack-mounted light, this http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/busch-and-mu ... prod31930/ is the best you can get in my opinion. It may not seem that bright, but it is really effective and is designed to bolt to a bracket (5cm or 8cm). It doesn't flash, which is a good feature in my view, but ymv. This is the fixed one - I have the senso, which is supposed to turn on and off depending on the light level, but unfortunately it has to be properly dark for it to turn on, which makes it actually dangerous on a darkish day when you want it on. The fixed one is also cheaper.

B&M also do a front light that has lots of light and a really good beam pattern: eg http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/busch-and-mu ... prod34355/ or (cheaper) http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/busch-and-mu ... prod31924/ but I really can't recommend in terms of build quality, despite their being German.

This kind of light, where attention is paid more to beam pattern than absolute maximum brightness have the advantage that they may offer less wiggle room to scumbag lawyers if you get hit, since they adhere to German lighting regulations and are thus (I believe - i am not a lawyer, scumbag or otherwise) legal here too. I also think they work better.

Re: Commuting lights

19 January 2016 - 1:25pm
I have a similar length commute to you. Recently replaced the bike I use for winter commuting and thought hard about a hub dynamo. I've got a rather expensive exposure strada front light which also runs a very bright rear off a cable. I find this very convenient - only one light to recharge and as I can use the front light on other bikes too I decided to stick.

I use rechargeable batteries in normal lights for my backups which are a (now pretty old) cateye at the front, similar to this http://www.wiggle.co.uk/cateye-hl-el135 ... ont-light/ and one of these at the back, like you with a rack attachment. http://www.wiggle.co.uk/cateye-tl-rapid ... ear-light/

I run them flashing and recharge them weekly, never had any issue with longevity.

I'm amazed your main lights last a week at a decent level of lighting. I recharge mine nightly, but I'm on unlit back roads at full beam, perhaps yours are "be seen".

Re: Commuting lights

19 January 2016 - 1:16pm
Tangled Metal wrote: .... I'm not looking for a touring/trekking setup...

eh? By far the most hub generators are used for commuting purposes....

....IMHO hub dynamo systems may suit some but not me....

well with all due respect you don't know that because you have not yet tried one....? And I would suppose that after a fairly short period of time commuting you have yet to experience all the 'joys of battery lights'.

Quite a lot of people have to find out for themselves... give it time enough and you might well change your mind....

BTW if battery lights were perfectly reliable no-one would feel the need to carry backup lights, would they...?

cheers

Re: Commuting lights

19 January 2016 - 1:03pm
I've spent a less than £85 I think. £5 at most per ALDI special, £30 or less for the Cateye lights. Charging up at work is free. I've not got the issue of hub dynamo wheel builds or cables to the lights. I can swap between bikes for a few quid for extra mounts. The Cateye lights indicate when low then when a bit lower they switch to low power. Even with the front light that's enough to last one journey home. My issue is the ALDI lights supposedly have battery indication but it doesn't work and there's no way to know if it has fully charged. Basically not sure how long out will last. Unpredictable lights annoy me so I need a new second pair. Backups as it were but ones capable of lighting my way home enough for the short sections of unlit road.

IMHO hub dynamo systems may suit some but not me. I'm not looking for a touring/trekking setup just backup lights. Any suggestions? P.S. I'm happy with my 32 hole wheel setup with disc brakes. I have a dislike of messy wires on a bike and don't really like the look of dynamo lights I've seen. Personal preference.

Re: Commuting lights

19 January 2016 - 12:34pm
It's the wheel build issue that stops me going the hub route, too: I have no skill in wheel building and anyway it makes swapping out a wheel complicated.

They may not be ideal but I'm quite happy with my Cree front set: I get at least two hours at maximum brightness per charge, and there's a LED indicator on the lamp which turns from green to red when the batteries are about 30% charge left. I believe it changes to flashing red when the battery's nearly out, but I haven't let it go that far.

It doesn't deliver quite the 2000 lumens claimed in the advert, but it's quite adequate for narrow unlit country lanes at speeds up to about 20mph. In traffic you can use the low setting.

Re: Commuting lights

19 January 2016 - 12:16pm
Tangled Metal wrote:....Were talking cost effective now....

the problems you have encountered with your battery lights are to some extent shared with most of them.

As to 'cost effective' how do you value your time and your safety?

I'd suggest that you have already spent the thick end (or more) of the price of a hub generator based system on crappy battery lights and you now propose to spend even more...? That is just throwing good money after bad IMHO.

I am pretty sure that I have spent between £500 and £1000 on battery lights over the years and nearly all of them were junk. In the meantime I've run a couple of bikes with hub generators and they have cost pennies to keep going, been far less faff and much more reliable.

I still use battery lights occasionally for some purposes on some bikes but for a 35min commute I'd choose a hub generator system every time.

cheers

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