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Re: Yet another road rage incident

6 September 2014 - 10:11am
In a calm and monotone voice: "You have one chance to comply. Get in your car and drive away or I will end you."

Last used when a taxi driver decided to run a red ped/bike crossing light almost knocking me and a ped over, then beeped loudly as if we were in the wrong. And the rest went exactly as that video - him out of the car half a mile down the road, ranting and raving in a threatening way...

Re: Sheep playing chicken

6 September 2014 - 9:54am
I've always assumed that sheep can see that cyclists are people ie instinctively treated as a threat, especially when close by, but that they see and interpret motor traffic differently.

Re: Another A38 Accident

6 September 2014 - 9:38am
I was in the traffic yesterday (long delays, not surprisingly as they got the air ambulance out). Felt sick when I saw a bike abandoned at the side of the road and realised what must have happened. Fingers crossed the cyclist recovers fully.

It was on a section reduced to single lane and hard shoulder due to roadworks I think (although maybe the cones were changed due to the accident). My guess would be the lorry driver was a bit zoned out and drifted onto the hard shoulder.

Very personal thing but I wouldn't cycle along the a38 or a30 dual carriageway sections as it's just not very pleasant. I'm not criticising this cyclist for doing so though, he is perfectly entitled to do so and it may well have been the best practical route for him from a to b.

Re: Yet another road rage incident

6 September 2014 - 8:53am
Watching this was absolutely shocking. I was sickened by it.
Hope this driver gets his just deserts.

Re: Sheep playing chicken

6 September 2014 - 6:28am
I was up on Dartmoor a few days ago, and it was a big brown cow that wandered onto the road in front of me. She just stopped in the middle of the road, looked around, then carried on her way.

There's a 40mph speed limit up there, and you can see why.

Re: Yet another road rage incident

6 September 2014 - 12:36am
There's not that many insurance companies, what's to stop someone public spirited forwarding a link to the video and the news reports? You could even pretend it's your own car and get a quote to see who might be cheapest.

Re: Sheep playing chicken

5 September 2014 - 11:21pm

Re: York to Selby

5 September 2014 - 11:10pm
MockCyclist wrote:It's tarmac all the way, except for the last half mile into Selby where the path is on the Ouse bank but just take the adjacent road.

It's flat too

Re: NCN 65 Broomfleet & Hemingbrough

5 September 2014 - 11:02pm
Barmby on the Marsh to Faxfleet is all tarmac minor roads. From Faxfleet it becomes a dirt track, over the lock bridge and then a stony track to Broomfleet. So that's not really road bike friendly but I would have thought it would be passable with care since it will be dry.

Selby to Hemingbrough is all hard paths, then there's a track of about a mile to the lock at Barmby.

edit: From the Ouse bridge at Selby the TPT/NCN is closed because of rail bridge repairs. You take a residential street off the A19, there's a silver phone box at the junction, that takes you under a railway underpass and you rejoin the trail along there. Oh, there is a stony track there as well - forgot about that bit.

Re: York to Selby

5 September 2014 - 10:44pm
It's tarmac all the way, except for the last half mile into Selby where the path is on the Ouse bank but just take the adjacent road.

York to Selby

5 September 2014 - 9:58pm
Is the NCN route from York to Selby suitable for a road bike on 700x25 tyres.

Re: Sheep playing chicken

5 September 2014 - 9:40pm
That happens to me too, but I don't worry. They can take care of themselves more than adequately.

Re: Sheep playing chicken

5 September 2014 - 9:29pm
I find it quite annoying when I am grinding up a long Welsh climb and the stupid sheep begins running ahead of me. I worry that I may drive it miles into the next valley, far from its home turf. So I attempt to raise my speed above the sheep's. Alas, I do not have the uphill accelaration of a Spanish pro, and the sheep easily stays ahead. The only hope is a widening in the road, perhaps a gateway, so that the brute dives to the side as I give it my all to get ahead of her.

Re: Must've been Changeover Day?

5 September 2014 - 9:00pm
This is an exact parallel with all the surf boards on cars here in Cornwall. Lots of posers too, in the latest wetsuits, but rather less action in the water!

Re: Another A38 Accident

5 September 2014 - 8:58pm
I had to drive up and back the A30 and A38 in Cornwall twice today - around 250 miles in a large van and saw probably 20ish cyclists trying to cope and being blown around a bit by lorries. Some of them had panniers and some looked like day riders. None looked happy to be there on a very busy friday. The safest parts for them were the single carriageway parts of the A30, where traffic was already moving slowly, but the single lane A38 in the Glynn Valley is particular nasty.

The dualled bits, with two lanes of fast traffic seemed a cyclist's nightmare for me and I wondered then why these roads weren't built to accommodate a reasonable cycle lane. Easy enough by just trimming back part of the central reservation and road edges. Of course, that would be only sensible if such a lane was kept clear of the debris that currently collects on the narrow bit on the inside of the white line.
The A30 and A38 are not the places to be, particularly in summer and rush hours. I avoid them, except for a few short stretches where I have no choice.

As for stand-alone cycle ways; the ones with a good level surface are in a small minority. Why is it that so many tarmaced ones feel like they've been laid by a very junior apprentice??

Re: Yet another road rage incident

5 September 2014 - 8:54pm
661-Pete wrote: ... He may be able to afford the fine, but will he need to tell his insurers? Depends whether it counts as a motoring conviction. It would be interesting to learn what his premiums get hiked up to....

Afaik, it's a standard condition of many / most / all (?) types of insurance that all unspent convictions have to be disclosed.

Sheep playing chicken

5 September 2014 - 8:48pm
Has anyone else noted the propensity of sheep at the last minute to bolt in front of an approaching cyclist? Today on open moorland roads sheep grazing on left and right verges, and of course those to the left bolt to the right, and those on the right to the left. Fortunately living in Cumbria I am well versed in their crazy antics and slowed accordingly. Goodness knows the outcome if faced with a less cautious cyclist. What's really annoying is when struggling on upward slopes instead of bolting they saunter across the road in close proximity to your front wheel. Just taunting me !!

Action on Dangerous Drivers - Worth the Effort

5 September 2014 - 8:31pm
A couple of times recently I've had some "close shaves" though bad drivers in company vehicles (vans/lorries). And I've subsequently contacted the companies and complained, not identifying the vehicle/time/place so they cannot ID the specific driver. This is deliberate 'cos I do believe that individuals really don't want a cyclist under their wheels but, they are under a lot of pressure from their companies to make more deliveries in same time, increase productivity, etc. so they are under pressure which results in bad driving.

And some companies have communicated with me asking details and then we discuss and I push for a general raising the issue to all their drivers to be aware of vulnerable road users, etc.

2 weeks ago I had an incident with a courier van and after chatting (on the phone) with their transport manager he agreed it was a good idea to raise the issue in a general context at their next Monday drivers team meeting (i.e. raising with all the depot drivers). And he also decided he would contact the two neighbouring depots and get them to do the same as he realised it was important (for their company as well as vulnerable road users).

Today I had two "close shaves" both because drivers failed to adjust for my speed when pulling in after a close overtake. I caught up with the van driver who pointed out what he had just done and got a "disappointing" response and then later a bus driver.

Do people think it worth pursuing such incidents ?

I've previously taken the attitude that to do nothing means the driver will be unaware of his shortcomings and will repeat and repeat until there is a serious incident. But I also feel reserved about getting individuals "in trouble". The two today will mean identifying the vehicles for anything to happen, hence my reservations.

So I was wondering what others thought.



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