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Re: Buzzed by a Buzzard

12 August 2015 - 9:44pm
Friend of mine used to sleep in the back of his van at sailing events. Used to complain about always being woken up at first light by seagulls landing on the roof of the van.
It took him two years of events before he realised that after he went to bed his mates were putting bread on top of the van.

Re: New overtaking video

12 August 2015 - 8:56pm
reohn2 wrote:foxyrider wrote:........ who is going to see it? is it being shown on prime time TV, in cinemas? Not much point if it doesn't get seen.

This ^^^
It ain't much good if it isn't seen by most of the driving public
Thread currently running on the largest motoring forum re this with some "robust" but encouraging discussion!

Re: New overtaking video

12 August 2015 - 7:59pm
Lance Dopestrong wrote:Call me a cynic ("Lance, you're a cynic!") but shouldn't car drivers know how to do this already? Any driver dense or ignorant enough not to know now to overtake safely is unlikely to invest time improving their knowledge by watching a video.
You could say the same about drink driving

Re: New overtaking video

12 August 2015 - 6:48pm
When I was a kid they used to have public information bulletins like this on TV. (Charley says, anyone?).
Also this link is doing the rounds:

http://www.motoring.co.uk/car-news/cyclists-why-do-they-ride-in-the-middle-of-the-road-_62617

Re: Parked cars blocking shared use path

12 August 2015 - 3:40pm
Indeed, in about 70% of the UK parking has been decriminalised and the powers devolved to local authorities.

Re: Parked cars blocking shared use path

12 August 2015 - 12:37pm
As I keep posting, an important factor in parking control etc in residential areas is that it's all under the control of the local authority. Local councillors are normally elected on tiny turnouts, so even a few disgruntled people can have a disproportionate effect on the result in a particular ward. Local councillors inevitably place more importance on the views of the local residents as against those using the roads to pass through, even though that's the main purpose of roads. For most local councillors, residential parking is a white funk matter.

Re: Best for commuting: Roubaix SL4, Gran Fondo or Mekk Pogg

12 August 2015 - 12:12pm
Ah ok, missed that!

My personal preference is mudguards with proper mountings, so no fiddling around fitting them on bikes with limited clearances. Also the differences in brake drop can affect what size tyre you can fit. Something like a Kinesis 4S is a great "race" bike with more all season capability.

Whilst Im sure the roubaix is more comfortable because of the zertz inserts, Im not sure if you would just be better served fitting wider tyres.

Re: Not even an 'are' you OK!

12 August 2015 - 11:59am
Put it on YouTube and email the like to their MD.

Re: Best for commuting: Roubaix SL4, Gran Fondo or Mekk Pogg

12 August 2015 - 11:48am
honesty wrote:I've not looked at the links for the bikes, but would you want mudguards? To me a must if cycling in the wet, though I know other people do without. Can these be fitted to those bikes easily, and will it reduce the tyre size (and therefore comfort) you can use.
Yes I would. I'm hoping to use the mud guards in the link above. They've had good reviews and are designed to squeeze into the small tolerances of road bike frames. What I'm struggling with is working out which if these is a better package as they all seem to have different strengths. E.g. The Fuji and Mekk have Shimano 105s which I hear are good, but the Specialized has those inserts to make the ride smoother.

Re: Best for commuting: Roubaix SL4, Gran Fondo or Mekk Pogg

12 August 2015 - 11:36am
I've not looked at the links for the bikes, but would you want mudguards? To me a must if cycling in the wet, though I know other people do without. Can these be fitted to those bikes easily, and will it reduce the tyre size (and therefore comfort) you can use.

Re: Parked cars blocking shared use path

12 August 2015 - 11:23am
tatanab wrote:Mark1978 wrote:The path in question is here https://goo.gl/maps/7Pb3v you can see one of Enterprise's vans blocking it.I've had this discussion with property owners over the years, a couple of garage owners in particular come to mind. They regard this as "their driveway" to do with as they wish and anything that crosses "their driveway" has to yield to them.

You can see that they would have that idea. Of course it's not theirs, it's part of the footway which has a dropped access for them.

It's a particular issue we do seem to have with the provision of cycleways in the UK that they always give way to every single property access, when of course the property access should be giving way to the cycleway / footpath.

Re: Parked cars blocking shared use path

12 August 2015 - 11:21am
Mark1978 wrote:The path in question is here https://goo.gl/maps/7Pb3v you can see one of Enterprise's vans blocking it.I've had this discussion with property owners over the years, a couple of garage owners in particular come to mind. They regard this as "their driveway" to do with as they wish and anything that crosses "their driveway" has to yield to them.

Re: Parked cars blocking shared use path

12 August 2015 - 10:58am
It does worry me somewhat, the notion that drivers think that we should be on any provided path and they will 'enforce' this in their own way. See the café owning range rover driver recently.

Nevermind that Durham has at least made a try at some cycle paths some of them useful, much of them not so. e.g. The path in question is here https://goo.gl/maps/7Pb3v you can see one of Enterprise's vans blocking it. But then it is merely a pedestrian footpath, complete with narrow width and poor surfacing, not suitable for cycling, especially when you look at just how wide the road surface actually is here!

So here I will ride on the road, but then it's rarely rush hour when I do, but if some idiot takes exception? Then the legal types claim it was my own fault because there was an adjacent cycle path? Sadly it seems the standard attitude is that it's the victims fault for putting themselves in danger, as if the driver has no input at all into the issue.

Re: Parked cars blocking shared use path

12 August 2015 - 10:52am
Hi,
Mark1978 wrote:Audax67 wrote:Near here there's a compulsory cycle path, separated off from the road, that always has a car parked in it. I've passed it a dozen times. Once a couple of blokes even had it up on axle trees and were doing funny car-ish things under it.

I guess the police don't give a rat's ass - but will still penalize any cyclist who gets hit by a car while riding on the road.

What's the penalty for riding in the road when there is a compulsory path?

A - a close.......very close pass and a blast with a horn

I think it would be better and more cost saving to clamp down on any abuse directed at clearly very vulnerable road and path users before it escalates into something bigger where politrictions will run even faster from doing there job serving us, only to launch some new body / voluntary civil road marshals with no teeth who will then be the target for all the I will point my car at you for your eyeballing me skum.

thirdcrank - bring back highway patrols instead on forces using us to report close passes and where it was....lame job for sure as if that is a crime in any book.............

Re: Parked cars blocking shared use path

12 August 2015 - 10:35am
Shute! The car is causing an obstruction; you cycle past carefully and the wing mirror gets pinged; it's not your fault so why worry. Boudicca style wheel hubs may be a better option if that doesn't work!

Re: Best for commuting: Roubaix SL4, Gran Fondo or Mekk Pogg

12 August 2015 - 10:29am
thirdcrank wrote:This is a bit of a loaded question in that it assumes that replicas of racing cycles AKA road bikes, are appropriate for regularly riding to and from work.

Unfortunately, what seems to be a more common thread is along the lines of "How can I carry luggage / fit mudguards / fit lower gears ... etc to my new road bike?"

Think through how you intend to use the bike. eg Luggage. I'm not talking here about a tent and sleeping bag but even a jacket, minimal tools etc takes room and while plenty of riders now seem to use rucksacs, they are hardly comfy. How does the gearing compare with what you are used to and what you may need in the future? This isn't about the number of gears but the lower gears.

So I intend to take public transport once a week to take my shirts/suits into the office and not really carry anything other than my phone, ID and wallet and puncture repair kit in a ruck sac or pouch. I have a large locker near the changing rooms for this. Occasionally I may have to take work home which would be a note pad, a few documents and a tablet at most so nothing that couldn't fit into a small rucksac. I would want mud guards but I was hoping to use these, which seem suitable for road bikes http://www.wiggle.co.uk/crud-roadracer- ... rds-%C2%A0

Part of the appeal of a road bike for me is to also use it for fitness. I'm already reasonably fit having played lots of sports but would like to take it to my local riding park and velodrome a few times.

Re: Best for commuting: Roubaix SL4, Gran Fondo or Mekk Pogg

12 August 2015 - 9:28am
Yes I have secure bike racks in the office itself (it's a very cycle friendly organisation) and we have showers etc there for people who cycle in etc. so security isn't a concern.

My current bike really is from 1927. It belonged to an elderly neighbour and she gave it to me 5 years ago. She was throwing it out and I was helping to clear out her garage. I had just finished uni and had no money (or job) to buy a new one so I slowly restored it with pocket money. It's a 3 speed sturmey archer, very upright and weighs a tonne! Fine to pop to the shops a mile away on quiet roads but commuting on it would be suicide.

Re: New overtaking video

12 August 2015 - 9:10am
Heltor Chasca wrote:I'm not a telly owner but I'm sure this would have legs if it was televised. The public does what the box says. Well kind of...

There is a peculiar mentality that just because there's a bike in front, 'I MUST get past.' Or lorry. Or a bus. Or a tractor. Weird because most do the speed limit so what's the rush? Same with anything pulling a trailer.

I pull a trailer for work and it has one of those mesh ramps which sticks up nearly 2,5m when its 'up' so you would think visually I was very much in your face and I would get given SPACE. Not so: I still constantly have idiots who measure their braking distance from the rear of my truck rather than the trailer which is nearly 4m long. None of them would be able to stop in time. I'll remember that when I need a new trailer.[emoji48]

Culturally we are up against it...b

Weird innit?
There's a set of TL close to home that nearly always has a 20 to 30 car tailback to the TL.
When on the bike,I'm regularly overtaken with <100m between me and the back of the line even though I'm in primary and about to go down the outside of the line of cars.
It's something I just can't figure out,the mentality of drivers is stupid at times

Re: New overtaking video

12 August 2015 - 9:03am
Lance Dopestrong wrote:Call me a cynic ("Lance, you're a cynic!") but shouldn't car drivers know how to do this already? Any driver dense or ignorant enough not to know now to overtake safely is unlikely to invest time improving their knowledge by watching a video.

Out of the close passes I'm subjected to on every ride,it's impossible to know which ones do know the rule but don't care,are deliberately intimidating cyclists,or don't know or care/realise their effect. Occasionally I suspect the intimidators but unless I confront them I can't tell one from an other.
It amounts to the same thing,a close pass is a close pass,whatever the intention or non,it still frightens/intimidates me and I'm a cyclist with 50+years of road use,how it must be for a new cyclist I can only guess,but they'll need to be hardy souls not to be put off cycling sooner or later.

The other thing that strikes me as odd is for cyclists and increasingly motorists to feel the need to have cameras in/on their vehicle to monitor other road user's behaviour such is the depths to which driving standards have sunk.
The stats will say regarding KSI, UK roads are one of the safest road in Europe but what they don't tell is the tension,aggression and bullying felt by and directed at vulnerable road users that is a daily feature of road use.
As for the government and judicial side of things,Tonyf33 has summed that up very well IMHO.

Re: Best for commuting: Roubaix SL4, Gran Fondo or Mekk Pogg

12 August 2015 - 9:03am
Having just read this my first thought was : Is VERY secure parking available for your bike ??

If not then don't go buying a flashy new one. It is highly likely to be stolen. . . . but you probably know this already . . .

Did you really mean that your current bike originated from around 1927 ?? not 1972 ??

Sorry I cannot help with your choice though - I haven't got a clue about modern ones.

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