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Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

6 September 2014 - 7:01pm
I did a driving instructors course a couple of years ago. One thing (as a cyclist and motorcyclist) that really stuck in my mind... "Don't just look - look and SEE, then decide".

Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

6 September 2014 - 6:51pm
My sympathies go to both the motorcyclist and the car driver.

Saw this the other day:


STEP 1
Take a look at this photo
STEP 2
Look closer, what do you see
STEP 3
Share this and help get the message out there
STEP 4
When out driving please take that extra second to look out for Motorbikes

Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

6 September 2014 - 6:32pm
I've seen the footage. While all the emphasis has been on the motorbiker doing 98mph the fact is the car driver turned without properly checking and I've seen many videos of that happening to cyclists - albeit not with fatal consequences.

Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

6 September 2014 - 6:27pm
Yup, pretty nasty. Hopefully people on both sides will learn something from it* - that's why it was posted after all.

Top tip: don't read any comments about it. They're utterly depressing*.

* (I realise these two statements are contradictory)

Re: Another A38 Accident

6 September 2014 - 4:53pm
Bad news

Beekeeper, we've had a lot of this in a couple of threads in the past year or so.

Motorways are generally specially built new roads and where they sever existing highways alternate facilities must be provided for those who are inconvenienced. They are an addition to the existing road network for the exclusive use of motor vehicles. That is not the case for all purpose roads, they are generally existing main roads along ancient routes and often forming the most direct and well graded route between major towns. Over time these roads have been widened but often no alternate provision is made for cyclists or other non-motorised road users. If we say cyclists cannot ride on such roads whilst making no attempt to accommodate them we are saying that cyclists have less of a right to a direct journey than motorised road users. In some cases the main road is the only way to access particular villages effectively prohibiting villagers from cycling. In many more cases there are few viable alternatives and this is a huge barrier to cycling in these places. Obviously the road itself is a fairly effective barrier to cycling anyway so I fully support the CTC's calls for good quality cycle facilities adjacent to these roads.

Re: Sheep playing chicken

6 September 2014 - 4:41pm
thirdcrank wrote:I've always assumed that sheep can see that cyclists are people ie instinctively treated as a threat, especially when close by, but that they see and interpret motor traffic differently.On the busier open moor roads, the sheep seem anything but sheepish, even with us cyclists. Give em a few feet distance and they'll just continue chewin the cud.

Re: Hand signals on bike

6 September 2014 - 12:33pm
pointing down (left or right) - pothole/obstruction
pointing with open palm and shaking - gravel/leaves/poor road surface/diesel
pointing behind back - I'm moving this way, follow me and for god sake don't half wheel.

bike/car/horse/pedestrian down (in front) or up (coming from behind)

its for everyones benefit, in a group you cant really see or hear whats going on so are relying on those in front to warn you.

Re: Sheep playing chicken

6 September 2014 - 10:31am
I come across sheep and cattle quite frequently when riding through common land. None are bothered by me even though they may be only a foot or two away from me. I simply talk to them as I approach.

Horses are different. I used to live in the New Forest and I am pretty sure that the ponies look out for you. You can almost imagine the leader saying "ok lads, here's one. Wait until you see the whites of his eyes. Wait- wait. NOW step out".

Re: Yet another road rage incident

6 September 2014 - 10:11am
In a calm and monotone voice: "You have one chance to comply. Get in your car and drive away or I will end you."

Last used when a taxi driver decided to run a red ped/bike crossing light almost knocking me and a ped over, then beeped loudly as if we were in the wrong. And the rest went exactly as that video - him out of the car half a mile down the road, ranting and raving in a threatening way...

Re: Sheep playing chicken

6 September 2014 - 9:54am
I've always assumed that sheep can see that cyclists are people ie instinctively treated as a threat, especially when close by, but that they see and interpret motor traffic differently.

Re: Another A38 Accident

6 September 2014 - 9:38am
I was in the traffic yesterday (long delays, not surprisingly as they got the air ambulance out). Felt sick when I saw a bike abandoned at the side of the road and realised what must have happened. Fingers crossed the cyclist recovers fully.

It was on a section reduced to single lane and hard shoulder due to roadworks I think (although maybe the cones were changed due to the accident). My guess would be the lorry driver was a bit zoned out and drifted onto the hard shoulder.

Very personal thing but I wouldn't cycle along the a38 or a30 dual carriageway sections as it's just not very pleasant. I'm not criticising this cyclist for doing so though, he is perfectly entitled to do so and it may well have been the best practical route for him from a to b.

Re: Yet another road rage incident

6 September 2014 - 8:53am
Watching this was absolutely shocking. I was sickened by it.
Hope this driver gets his just deserts.
Alan

Re: Sheep playing chicken

6 September 2014 - 6:28am
I was up on Dartmoor a few days ago, and it was a big brown cow that wandered onto the road in front of me. She just stopped in the middle of the road, looked around, then carried on her way.

There's a 40mph speed limit up there, and you can see why.

Re: Yet another road rage incident

6 September 2014 - 12:36am
There's not that many insurance companies, what's to stop someone public spirited forwarding a link to the video and the news reports? You could even pretend it's your own car and get a quote to see who might be cheapest.

Re: Sheep playing chicken

5 September 2014 - 11:21pm

Re: York to Selby

5 September 2014 - 11:10pm
MockCyclist wrote:It's tarmac all the way, except for the last half mile into Selby where the path is on the Ouse bank but just take the adjacent road.

It's flat too

Re: NCN 65 Broomfleet & Hemingbrough

5 September 2014 - 11:02pm
Barmby on the Marsh to Faxfleet is all tarmac minor roads. From Faxfleet it becomes a dirt track, over the lock bridge and then a stony track to Broomfleet. So that's not really road bike friendly but I would have thought it would be passable with care since it will be dry.

Selby to Hemingbrough is all hard paths, then there's a track of about a mile to the lock at Barmby.

edit: From the Ouse bridge at Selby the TPT/NCN is closed because of rail bridge repairs. You take a residential street off the A19, there's a silver phone box at the junction, that takes you under a railway underpass and you rejoin the trail along there. Oh, there is a stony track there as well - forgot about that bit.

Re: York to Selby

5 September 2014 - 10:44pm
It's tarmac all the way, except for the last half mile into Selby where the path is on the Ouse bank but just take the adjacent road.

York to Selby

5 September 2014 - 9:58pm
Is the NCN route from York to Selby suitable for a road bike on 700x25 tyres.

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