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Re: Triumph of HiViz over common sense?

24 July 2014 - 1:12am
With groups of primary school kids, once there is a school policy that they should wear HiVis when walking outside school (& I'm not entering that argument just here), it actually makes better use of the time if they just keep the tabbards on until they are back in school rather than spending 5 minutes collecting them off the children when they arrive wherever they are going (plus a member of staff possibly having to keep hold of 20 or 30 tabbards) & possibly 10 minutes getting the children back into them to return to school.

Rick.

Re: Sri Lanka Commonwealth Cyclists On M74

24 July 2014 - 12:37am
Seems to happen every time we host a major event involving cycling. Our road signage must be rubbish!

Re: Asshat In A Car

24 July 2014 - 12:27am
Government advice was always to use the road at speeds in excess of 18mph (antepenultimate bullet) - but this is now an archived page and I'm not sure that there is a current equivalent.

Re: Asshat In A Car

23 July 2014 - 11:32pm
Probably a certain retired Magistrate, you do live in Telford.

Re: Right Hand Turns

23 July 2014 - 10:35pm
Please don't give up complaining. Don't spend too much time on it, because it rarely works, but sometimes it does.

Re: Sri Lanka Commonwealth Cyclists On M74

23 July 2014 - 10:26pm
Nothing new the Kenyan cycle team saw on the map a nice straight direct route Manchester - Rivington and used the M61 to ride out and recce the TT and RR circuit in 2002.

Re: Asshat In A Car

23 July 2014 - 9:24pm
I think by pointing he was trying to tell you where he wants to park

Re: Asshat In A Car

23 July 2014 - 9:05pm
Sounds like you're being considerate bike lanes are one of the few parking refuges left for your hard pressed motorist.

Re: Asshat In A Car

23 July 2014 - 8:57pm
I'm wondering if it's worth taking his plate next time and reporting him for intimidation/aggressive behaviour.

Probably wouldn't do anything about it though.

Re: Sri Lanka Commonwealth Cyclists On M74

23 July 2014 - 8:53pm
Nah, they have the correct amount of detritus on them but they're just too wide to have been provided for peasants on two wheels

Re: Sri Lanka Commonwealth Cyclists On M74

23 July 2014 - 8:38pm
The hard shoulder can easily be mistaken for a cycle lane.

Re: Sri Lanka Commonwealth Cyclists On M74

23 July 2014 - 8:29pm
When I was cycling in Spain I found myself on the autopista on more than one occasion. Sometimes it didn't seem to give you any other option!

Re: Sri Lanka Commonwealth Cyclists On M74

23 July 2014 - 8:24pm
Motorways don't have the big signs any more.
The ones that stated what was forbidden .... agricultural vehicles, mopeds under 50cc, learner drivers, cyclists, animals, pedestrians, etc etc etc.

If you don't know the UK Highway Code, there's nothing to tell you anything on the entrance to a motorway. The police would have difficulty in prosecuting.

Re: Asshat In A Car

23 July 2014 - 8:22pm
It's the biggest reason why they should be done properly or not at all.

Re: Asshat In A Car

23 July 2014 - 8:19pm
This type of incident is not at all unusual and is a consequence of the quality of most cycle-specific facilities.
( How many times have you found a cycle facility that you actually prefer to cycle on ?? )

The bloke in the car thinks that you should use the facility provided to get you out of his way and has decided on motorist-vigilante-type action.
So long as his actions don't get dangerous, just ignore them.
Even the Highway Code does not mandate their use ( although it does get perilously close to creating a contributory negligence opportunity should the worst happen ).

Re: Triumph of HiViz over common sense?

23 July 2014 - 8:14pm
I have to wear a hi-viz vest in work, so I just wear it to work on the bike as well. Got a mesh one so it's not really any hotter.

Not sure about the benefits in the sunshine, main reason is so I don't forget it on the way in Have to wear it to the clock machine on the way out so it just stays on.

Definitely helps in the dark nights though.

Re: Sri Lanka Commonwealth Cyclists On M74

23 July 2014 - 7:58pm
They were probably just following the special signs for games traffic and the lane on the M74 was probably for athletes and games officials only.

Obviously athletes are not expected to cycle to events.

Re: Right Hand Turns

23 July 2014 - 7:41pm
The best way to imagine it is in the photo take the silver car and imagine it tight to the left hand kerb, im about 3/4 of the way across the outer lane stationary to turn right. Coach im guessing has pulled out of bus lane to avoid car, and squeeze thru the gap, making me swear furiously when i suddenly look left and see this coach trying to roll thru the gap. Good thing he wasnt going at speed, or he'd have pushed me over into the oncoming lane.

Sometimes I think cycling in london is like russian roulette.

p.s. I gave up complaining. been there tried it. noone cares. You have to lookout for yourself, and constantly learn from experiences to survive.

Re: Right Hand Turns

23 July 2014 - 6:24pm
Sorry you had such a fright .I would definitely contact National Express as the driver's judgement is woefully inadequate and put you at risk. You could try posting a comment on their facebook page – some cyclists find companies respond promptly to negative publicity.

+1 for Si's comment about eye-contact, although this can be tricky to achieve with a driver sitting in a high cab. From the sound of it, you were in the right position but the situation was unavoidable since the driver wouldn't wait. I'd be interested to see a streetmap link, if you're able – were you in a right filter lane? I normally find drivers show consideration (albeit still impatient) when I'm stopped in the centre of a single lane to turn right. If the lane is slightly wider, they can try to undertake so eye contact often works and I still have some room to move to the central white line if necessary. If I'm on the outside of a two lane carriageway, I'm extra vigilant looking at the drivers directly behind and to my left, but it's still a vulnerable position reliant on good drivers, not selfish ones .

Incidentally, since raising the handlebars I'm much more comfortable looking round when riding, so if you find it awkward, it might be worth adjusting the bars and saddle to suit.

Re: Triumph of HiViz over common sense?

23 July 2014 - 6:01pm
I saw another variant today. Someone cycling along in what appeared to be a bright yellow shower cap. No helmet underneath as far as I could tell, just a shower cap and apart from that normal clothes.

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