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Re: Boris' backie

1 August 2015 - 8:30am
I think all the above is another days discussion and £300 claimed at the House of Fraud.

More subsidised grub and wine m'Laud? And for you,Lord Coke(not Cola darhlin)?

Re: Pride comes before a fall

1 August 2015 - 6:50am
Looks like the clown has made a privacy complaint.

Re: Pride comes before a fall

1 August 2015 - 5:56am
bogmyrtle wrote:Cringeworthy from both a cycling and driving perspective.
Interestingly the cyclist is careless about his own safety (and that of other road users in the clip above) in his pursuit of motorists - and has very obvious double standards as to what is an acceptable amount of room, as in another of his clips below where his red mist is such that he puts himself in harm's way, such is his eagerness to confront an errant (in his view) motorist.


Something bad will happen to this individual at some point, I fear, if he continues in this fashion. He's also not doing one iota of good in terms of making motorists understand his POV, quite the contrary in fact.

...and no, that is not to condone assault, but I can understand why it happened with someone who had anger issues which were obvious from their first interaction.

Re: Pride comes before a fall

1 August 2015 - 1:12am
bogmyrtle wrote:Cringeworthy from both a cycling and driving perspective.
But pretty good from a diving perspective?

Re: Boris' backie

1 August 2015 - 12:24am
You wouldn't see the Chinese riding two on one bike!

Re: Pride comes before a fall

31 July 2015 - 11:49pm
Cringeworthy from both a cycling and driving perspective.

Re: Not even an 'are' you OK!

31 July 2015 - 11:27pm
In my neck of the woods I believe that police want you to report near passes

They're possibly taking a lead from industry/construction where analysing 'near-miss' situations which would otherwise be forgotten as "no harm done, mate" means you know a lot more about how accidents are likely to happen and (one hopes) can take measures to help prevent them. Means a lot less people get hurt/killed than they did a generation ago, but I know it's easy to be cynical.

I'm sorry to hear more tales of idiots in motor vehicles- I've had a good run of late (or have got better at keeping my distance from said idiots), but I react horrendously badly to 'near misses' especially when they involve aggression from the other party- I end up shaking like a leaf. I wish people would just think about sharing the bloody roads with everyone else, whether on a Brompton or an artic...

Re: Not even an 'are' you OK!

31 July 2015 - 10:50pm
In my neck of the woods I believe that police want you to report near passes
I think that this is just a ruse to make you think that they will do something, like at work when they ask you to look at or report on some silly insignificant nothing to just take you mind of lack of pay rises etc.

If they don't, wont or cant convict drivers who plough there vehicle into peds and cyclist who end up in hospital then there is little point.

Add the fact that some posters on another current post think that its always the cyclist fault and any assault should be ignored and just calm yourself............chill man.............

The media don't help either they are now taking to rely on facebook twitter etc to report incidents so they don't even have to leave the office..............

Re: High fiving van drivers

31 July 2015 - 9:42pm
Reminds me of an accident report brought to my attention some years ago about a driver who had his elbow out of the open window and was supporting his chin. A close shave ensued with a vehicle passing in the opposite direction. When the driver then went to grab his steering wheel his arm was not there.

Re: Pride comes before a fall

31 July 2015 - 8:38pm
is it a train? is it a plane? no! its super d**k!!!!!

Re: Boris' backie

31 July 2015 - 7:37pm
I must admit to not knowing it was illegal - not that I'm likely to give anyone a backie these days, I value my hard earned energy far too much.

Re: Boris' backie

31 July 2015 - 7:35pm
One view is that this is OK because in Holland they do it all the time.

IMO, this is another aspect of the current HGV drivers' blindspots thread. In Holland they seem to keep cyclists away from much of the traffic danger, but here we don't.


Re: Boris' backie

31 July 2015 - 7:07pm
It has been an offence since at least the Road Traffic Act 1960 (see section 13 of http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eli ... 16/enacted).

More background info here, including figures showing how few people are prosecuted or fined for this somewhat trifling offence: https://www.ctc.org.uk/blog/davidmurray ... ife-backie

Re: Pride comes before a fall

31 July 2015 - 6:58pm
Well, obviously, he was trying his best.....

superman roadrage.jpg

Re: Pride comes before a fall

31 July 2015 - 6:55pm
It's very difficult to judge the closeness of the pass from a helmet cam. My view would be if it wasn't close why would the cyclist react in the way he did? The end result is pretty hilarious in any case.

Re: High fiving van drivers

31 July 2015 - 6:49pm
Never had that happen to me,but it's dangerous and stupid in the extreme

Re: Pride comes before a fall

31 July 2015 - 6:47pm
That motorist is a heart attack waiting to happen and I wouldn't mind betting he broke or sprained a finger there as his hand is half-on half-off the kerb - not that I'll shed a tear.

Re: Help settle an argument

31 July 2015 - 6:41pm
Mark1978 wrote:A cyclist hating friend of mine shared this video

https://www.facebook.com/SpottedPompey/ ... 0/?fref=nf

Using it as an example of why cyclists are stupid / shouldn't be on the road etc because he moved 'out of the lane'

My reply was that his road positioning was entirely reasonable through the island and the car driver had no right to beep at him.

What's the thoughts of the assembled panel here?

Note I'm not talking about the falling off; which was entirely the cyclists own doing, but was the car driver right to beep?

Oh dear. In this case the cyclist did not look or signal before pulling out. (Highway Code: Mirror, signal, manoeuvre, so on a bike look behind you, signal and manoeuvre.)
The beep is fair in this case as it tells the cyclist he almost caused an accident and to be more careful next time. It wasn't a full lean on the horn in anger act, more of a beware beep.
If a car, bus, lorry, bike or van had pulled out in front of me like that without signalling and causing me to brake (then worry about being rear ended) then I too would hit the horn.
Where I cycle it is common for vehicles to really lean on the horn expecting us to abandon road even when riding solo and neatly near the side of the road. Such motorists do get something as they come past.

Overall we have to remember that just because we are cyclists does not automatically make us right. If we don't remember this then motorists will hate us even more and with justification. We don't need that.

Re: Pride comes before a fall

31 July 2015 - 6:35pm

Re: Pride comes before a fall

31 July 2015 - 6:33pm
honesty wrote:Specifically recommended against doing this in the various cycling training manuals isn't it? I know in cars they say not to hop between parked cars, but take the lane and stay there as its less dangerous.
I would also say that people cycling have a right to reach their destination in a timely manner without being held up by motorists behind them as well as in front, but in this video, he/she seems to have plenty of time to chase and argue with the motorist.

Either way this could have been completely avoided if the driver hadn't driven like a prat. The victim was a bit silly chasing him down, but having done the same myself in the heat of the moment it's understandable. Also remember that the camera will make this look further away than it was as the lens angle will distort the image.
Yes, based on my own handlebar camera, that looked scarily close... but you've chased people down? When someone passes me as badly as that (happily rare), I check all my extremities are intact, thank my lucky stars and hope I don't share a road with that incompetent/evil motorist again. I have once told a motorist I found their overtake scary when they had parked (illegally) in the cycle parking I used (some minutes later - they said sorry) and I once suffered an attempted road-rage attack because I said something ("whoa!" IIRC) when someone overtook so close I felt the air displaced by their wing mirror... but deliberately chase them down? Why do that?


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