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Re: Disappointing For Cyclists in Radstock

15 April 2015 - 8:42pm
thanks vorpal and heltor, I guessed it might be something like that. I started taking my daughter to places round Southampton by bike about four months back. A domestic role reversal sees me as stay-at-home dad while my wife goes out to work in the car. Rather than get a second car I got a Bakfiets longjohn bike. My daughter loves riding in it. It is a bigger heavier bike and is slower up hills than I might be on normal bike but it doesn't feel that different otherwise. With a bike like that I think I am better off using the roads and staying off narrow paths.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

15 April 2015 - 8:41pm
The last post illustrates very well that most of this is about inconsiderate people. Nothing at all to do with motorcycling per se.

As for the comments about some types of bike - well I'm sure the man in the street can find equivalent criticisms to direct against cycling. For example 'racing' handlebars lower than the saddle meaning the rider cannot see properly. Skinny tyres that compromise braking and roadholding. Ban Them!

Of course we would defend cycling in all its forms. We have fought hard to have choices lets not talk ourselves into giving them up.

It is inconsiderate behaviour we should focus on.

Oh and by the way; three conventional cycles, a recumbent, Triumph Sprint 955i (145 mph) Classic MZ250 (80 mph) and a Royal Enfield 500 (75 - 80 mph) I like em all!

Re: I Got Nudged

15 April 2015 - 8:15pm
How will one or even two cameras stop this happening again?

Re: I Got Nudged

15 April 2015 - 7:12pm
pwa wrote:Was it a young driver? That sort of basic error is more understandable from someone less fluent with driving.

Tbh, he looked older than the dinosaurs. May possibly have had a few loose nuts and a couple missing marbles.

Re: I Got Nudged

15 April 2015 - 6:19pm
Glad you are ok.... almost a shame you did not sustain some damage to your bike as it might have given more credence to the driver that he had hit you..... sadly it seems he still has no understanding of the severity of what has been done and rather than being cautious in future may go on to do it again...

Re: I Got Nudged

15 April 2015 - 5:39pm
I assume they've still got major road works around that roundabout Vantage? Should make people concentrate more but in some cases it just seems to be another distraction to take their attention from the road

Re: I Got Nudged

15 April 2015 - 5:27pm
many drivers these days get so used to crawling onto the no go zone in front of lights they dont know how to stop in a fixed distance any more?

Re: Route from Bala to Dolgellau advice.

15 April 2015 - 5:12pm
Super. Thats me sorted. The photos look perfect.

Thanks very much :>)

Re: Route from Bala to Dolgellau advice.

15 April 2015 - 4:39pm
My suggestion - from Bala along the south side of the lake to Llanuwchllyn, then you just cross the A-road and go over the hills, up to 1743 feet towards Trawsfynydd, (turn left before T) through Coed-y-Brenin, south towards Llanelltyd, after Dolgellau you can cycle on the old railway track on the south side of the estuary, then across Barmouth bridge. Or if you have a lot of energy you can leave Dolgellau by Cader Road, up to the perfect double lakes above Arthog, steep down to A and over the bridge. Almost all on "yellow" roads as shown on the OS maps.

Re: Route from Bala to Dolgellau advice.

15 April 2015 - 4:25pm
There's some lovely surfaced minor roads to the east of Coed y Brenin. Hilly but you'd expect that! Head south down the east shore of Bala Lake. Route: http://cycle.travel/map/journey/11540 - click on the roads, then 'View photos', to see what they look like.

Part of it is signposted as a regional cycle route. But don't follow NCN 82 through Coed y Brenin unless you're on a pretty burly bike (hybrid at least) - that one is a bit rough!

Route from Bala to Dolgellau advice.

15 April 2015 - 4:07pm
Hi all,

Im looking to do a few days riding and one of the legs is Llangollen to Barmouth. Most of the route is fine apart from the section between Bala and Dolgellau. As far as i can see there is only one way and thats across the A4212 and down the A470. Im viewing google maps and it is showing tracks across from Bala to Coed y Brenin but could anybody tell me if these are tarmac or bridleways as i want to stay off busy roads.

Thanks for any help :>)

Re: I Got Nudged

15 April 2015 - 3:38pm
Glad you survived unscathed. I've "made contact" with 2 motor vehicles in the past, both low speed nudges similar to yours. It's probably down to a dopey driver spending too long glancing right and forgetting to look forward too. Was it a young driver? That sort of basic error is more understandable from someone less fluent with driving.

I Got Nudged

15 April 2015 - 3:24pm
3 and a bit years after climbing back in the saddle and after I dunno how many close passes and near misses, I've finally been hit. Nothing serious luckily for me.
The rest of the group had already entered the roundabout https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.72039 ... ,19z?hl=en from the north side but I decided to wait for a safer opportunity as the guy in front of me just about made it. I sat in primary and as usual with any junction, I had my front brake on.
As I waited, I could the engine from the car behind me getting closer and all of a sudden, the bike and I were being shoved forward. I looked around to find the driver not looking forward, but watching the traffic approaching from the right while crawling forward. I shouted "Oi!" and moved forward a bit more to distance myself from the plonker. As I looked right again to check for a safe gap, he hit and pushed me again which resulted in my front wheel being over the white line. This time I leant on the AirZound a couple times while pointing at his bonnet which finally caught his attention and he stopped. Asking him "What the hell are you playing at?" resulted in one of those blank "What's your problem?" faces. Unbelievable.
No damage to me or the bike, so I just got round the roundabout and caught the rest of the group.
I'm thinking it's time to maybe save the pennies for a couple new cameras front and rear.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

15 April 2015 - 2:52pm
Just like cyclists should not nip onto the pavement to get past a car in a jam that is too near the kerb to allow you past. Or the cyclist that edges across the pedestrian crossing when the lights for traffic are on red. You have to stop as well as other road users. Or how about those adults who ride on pavements. Or those cyclists who get angry over some minor infringement that they perceive so race off after the perpetrator in their vehicle and see fit to kick the vehicle to show their displeasure.

I am not having a go at cyclists so much as the potential for them and us attitudes from both sides over perceived rule breaking from the other side. Quite frankly I admit i am human and break rules when cycling and driving, but being on both sides I accept that we do wrong and others do too. Singling out specific actions of the other side is not a positive action in some cases but can foster opposing views and a "but your lot do this," response. Look to your own actions and make them right. If that is all the change we can affect it is still a start.

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

15 April 2015 - 1:38pm
bigjim wrote:The examiner is with you all the time now on the part 2. He indeed follows you on his bike and issues instructions. You also have to do the turn around in the road in front of the examiner controlling clutch and revs. This after the theory test and of course initial exam where you have to weave between cones and do an observed road circuit frun by an authorised learner school.
I think they are now trying to make it even harder.

I hope that part of the motorbike test addresses some behaviour that often annoys me:

1. DO NOT deliberately filter into the ASL on red, especially cutting up cyclists.
2. DO NOT cut into any cycle lane at the last moment when faced with congestion ahead.
3. DO NOT use off-road cycle paths as a short cut between roads.

Whilst I'm sure that many bikers adhere to the regulations, there's always that minority.....

Re: Disappointing For Cyclists in Radstock

15 April 2015 - 9:22am
Thanks Vorpal. I'll do my best. It's worth him cycling with me to see how bloodthirsty this part of town is. I commuted in London for 5 years so I hate to make a comparison, but this is gladiatorial...b

Disappointing For Cyclists in Radstock

15 April 2015 - 9:20am
Elizabethsdad wrote:why do you have to 'pedestrianise' when your child is on board? Why does carrying the extra load mean you cannot use the roads as you normally do at other times?

Because of the zero provision for cyclists, motorists cannot fairly predict where I am going to be on the road. About 32 000 vehicles go through this junction every day I was told over 5 years ago. I drive a truck and trailer through it to work and the number of 'retina contacts' you have to process is staggeringly high. The risk is too high for me to pretend I am in the Netherlands for the morning just because I am a cyclist and I know my rights. I also have a responsibility to my daughter. The motorists are not at fault. I am not at fault. The fault is the planners'....b

EDIT: My 'load' is precious goods! [emoji108]

EDIT 2: exact figure I remember.

Re: Accident Tue 7 Apr 18:00 Uddingston

15 April 2015 - 8:39am
Yeah this Bellshill roundabout is the one I go through on my commute - I cycle from Holytown to the centre of Glasgow.
The two main areas that concern me are
1. this roundabout (more so on return leg when I am going 3/4 of the way round it past the on and off slip to the A725
2. The section at the bottom of Uddingston between there and the old zoo where its 70mph dual carriageway, vehicles fighting for access to the onslips to the M73 / M74 and with an overhead bridge above a bend that can make you disappear as a cyclist if not wearing hi-vis etc.

Ironically, yesterday when I was cycling in, at this stretch I thought I would try going along the "pavement". Big mistake - nearly came off the bike as the surface has been pretty much lost in a pile of road silt, mud, salt etc. Was actually very dangerous on a hybrid bike so it will be back to the road for me!

Re: Disappointing For Cyclists in Radstock

15 April 2015 - 8:36am
I don't know about Heltor Chasca, but there were a couple of junctions where I pedestrianised when I had my children with. The biggest reason was that they were fast, intimidating junctions, and I didn't trust being able to get across them quickly enough with children. On my own, I could accelerate my way out of most developing problems. With the kids, I couldn't do that.

Also, one of those junctions, had a 40 mph road with a hill just after the junction. With the kids on board, I was slower, and preferred to use the shared use facility for going up the hill. That was easier to get to from the informal crossing than from the road. On my own, I avoided the shared use facility, but I could go rather faster, and the difference in speed between me and the motor traffic was less.

The other junction was an awkward offset on a blind summit on an A-road, so I usually went 50 metres on the pavement and used the pedestrian crossing when I had the kids along.

Re: Disappointing For Cyclists in Radstock

15 April 2015 - 8:13am
why do you have to 'pedestrianise' when your child is on board? Why does carrying the extra load mean you cannot use the roads as you normally do at other times?


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