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Re: E petition surfacing redressing

21 July 2014 - 10:37pm
Sweep it up and sell it on ebay
Cheers, Rob.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

21 July 2014 - 10:16pm
Was out today along some very gritty single track, one incident just made me a bit mad though there were a few instances of stupidity this was the worst. Oncoming car, and there's easily 65m between us when he comes into view, does he slow down..no, then within about 15-20 metres he slams on the anchors, skids and almost smashes into the banking..what a divvy!
I hadn't really gone down much single track for quite some time and tbh I'm thinking I need to avoid it as going the long way round on decent roads is far less energy sapping all round and much less chance of punctures from flint never mind errant drivers.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

21 July 2014 - 5:01pm
I was getting whacked by nettles yesterday to the west of Launceston.
I noticed that they didn't sting. Could it be that the continual "whacking" by passing traffic consumes the stings?

Re: E petition surfacing redressing

21 July 2014 - 4:22pm
[XAP]Bob wrote:iviehoff wrote:[XAP]Bob wrote:OK - maybe surface dressing is wonderful. Why do they have to leave a half inch of gravel scattered all over the road.

They don't have to do that at all. What you are seeing there is incompetence.

The difficult question, as ever, is how do we get people do things properly.

I might go and sweep up a local road and return all the gravel to the reception desk of the council.

Yeah like the girls on the reception desk are responsible for the problem.................

Re: Regent Street, Leeds - new cycle scheme

21 July 2014 - 3:58pm
The signs shouldn't really be up it it's not finished yet, looks like quite a lot of road markings need to be dones first. Hard to comment much further until it's finished.

Regent Street, Leeds - new cycle scheme

21 July 2014 - 3:49pm
Take a look at this -
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10 ... =2&theater

- and tell us what you think?

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

21 July 2014 - 3:40pm
If it's getting overgrown then it might be worth reporting that to the council so they can cut in back. I'm not sure that they have a fixed programme for cutting on minor country lanes. They probably just deal with them on an ad hoc basis as issues are reported.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

21 July 2014 - 3:17pm
Vorpal wrote: If it is truly single track, I usually ride right in the middle (Unless there's grass growing there ).

I rode down here yesterday http://goo.gl/maps/s3Lw6 two strips of tarmac with grass in the middle, even then I was being pleted by overgrown nettles! Not sure what I was going to do if I'd met a car, however the situation didn't arise.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

21 July 2014 - 3:13pm
When I read the title for this thread, I thought perhaps it had been discussed before. Certainly some similar thigns have, but when I looked through old threads, I found various ones on other topics (incidents, taking the lane, etc.) that had wandered into the realm of single track lanes, and none (maybe I missed them?) just on the topic of single track lanes.

I have ridden many single track lanes in Essex, Suufolk, and Norfolk. The majority are pleasant, and most drivers considerate, but like anywhere else, you do get a few idiots.

My road position on single track lanes depends largely on the width of the road. If it is truly single track, I usually ride right in the middle (Unless there's grass growing there ). The main reasons for this are visibility and to slow approaching traffic to a safe speed.

Essex has an unfortunate number of lanes that are more than 2.5 metres wide, even as much as 3 metres wide; just wide enough to make many drivers think they can go 60 mph, and pass cyclists without slowing

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

21 July 2014 - 2:38pm
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Out today and a small micra type coming the other way, hedges are over grown so car filling most of the road.
I matched my speed to theirs but they always look like they havent seen you as if whem they get to you you some how miraculiosly dissapear into thin air
So the stop and as there is no where for me to go I normally on narrow lanes cycle in the middle or just of centre.
They move into hedge (sort of) then I place one foot on the ground an attempt to skip past at a crawl, I get to centre of car and rear of car is a narrower gap still, so then the car starts to move The gap is less than my handle bars, so as the car clears me I back kick the car, the owner would have heard that.

If I meet a trctor or truck that is filling the whole road I might do U turn (in the last week) Of squash into the hedge to make my self no obstical (last two weeks) I am happy to do this once they have stopped.

Say no more.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

21 July 2014 - 2:16pm
Hi,
Out today and a small micra type coming the other way, hedges are over grown so car filling most of the road.
I matched my speed to theirs but they always look like they havent seen you as if whem they get to you you some how miraculiosly dissapear into thin air
So the stop and as there is no where for me to go I normally on narrow lanes cycle in the middle or just of centre.
They move into hedge (sort of) then I place one foot on the ground an attempt to skip past at a crawl, I get to centre of car and rear of car is a narrower gap still, so then the car starts to move The gap is less than my handle bars, so as the car clears me I back kick the car, the owner would have heard that.

If I meet a trctor or truck that is filling the whole road I might do U turn (in the last week) Of squash into the hedge to make my self no obstical (last two weeks) I am happy to do this once they have stopped.

Re: E petition surfacing redressing

21 July 2014 - 1:30pm
iviehoff wrote:[XAP]Bob wrote:OK - maybe surface dressing is wonderful. Why do they have to leave a half inch of gravel scattered all over the road.

They don't have to do that at all. What you are seeing there is incompetence.

The difficult question, as ever, is how do we get people do things properly.

I might go and sweep up a local road and return all the gravel to the reception desk of the council.

Re: E petition surfacing redressing

21 July 2014 - 12:58pm
thirdcrank wrote:Afaik, it's the tar dressing which is important to the road because it waterproofs it, if done correctly. The chippings are just to improve the friction - smooth tar has a very low coefficient of friction (if that's the correct expression.) The irony is that if the loose chippings are not promptly removed, the resulting dunes are about as skid-resistant as surface ice.

Dunes is a good term. There's a road I regularly use which was dressed a few years ago and has ridges parallel to the direction of travel, most unpleasant to walk on, I assume from the action of car tyres after it was surfaced.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

21 July 2014 - 12:44pm
Mark1978 wrote:Going back to single track roads I've been cycling them quite a bit since the start of this thread and I've noted that even when there are passing places (although not official ones) most car drivers aren't prepared to use them approaching a cyclist, because of course bicycles are infinitely narrow after all. It can be fine as long as the car slows down, I do the same and we work our way past each other, don't mind that at all. It's when they are driving a wider than average car, and they make no attempt to slow down and no attempt to move to the left.

Many drivers are familiar with the timing required for seamless, synchronised passing in passing places. You still get a few whose brain can't compute the simple logic required to pass safely and efficiently.
I too get the occasional oncoming car on a road which is only just wider than the car itself, and the car showing no sign of stopping. One defence mechanism which usually gets a reaction and stops the car is to cycle in an uncoordinated manner, knees and elbows out, wobbling. Failing all else, be prepared to thrust yourself into the hedge because you're going to be the loser in any collision .

Re: E petition surfacing redressing

21 July 2014 - 12:26pm
[XAP]Bob wrote:OK - maybe surface dressing is wonderful. Why do they have to leave a half inch of gravel scattered all over the road.

They don't have to do that at all. What you are seeing there is incompetence.

The difficult question, as ever, is how do we get people do things properly.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

21 July 2014 - 11:52am
Going back to single track roads I've been cycling them quite a bit since the start of this thread and I've noted that even when there are passing places (although not official ones) most car drivers aren't prepared to use them approaching a cyclist, because of course bicycles are infinitely narrow after all. It can be fine as long as the car slows down, I do the same and we work our way past each other, don't mind that at all. It's when they are driving a wider than average car, and they make no attempt to slow down and no attempt to move to the left.

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

21 July 2014 - 11:44am
Mark1978 wrote:That's a stupid idea. While I get as frustrated as the next person being stuck behind a tractor, mandating them to move over otherwise face fines is not on, they have as much right to use the road as anyone - more in fact considering they are engaging in business use, not going for a jolly in the countryside.

Certainly when I'm out cycling on single track roads and I encounter a tractor I'll usually get off and pull my bike to side of the road until they pass, first because they are much bigger than me and second because it's their area and they deserve to be able to go about their business without tourists like me getting in the way.

What madness is this - advocating tolerance on the road. I'm Mr Toad and all must bow before me (from the side of the road)

Re: Cycling on single-track roads

21 July 2014 - 11:41am
ambodach wrote:Are the single track roads in Cornwall just lanes or are they A roads? No, not like in N Scotland, but there are many B roads with single track segments over distances.

There are some A roads - trunk roads too - that have single track pinch points over bridges or through narrow banks.

Re: E petition surfacing redressing

21 July 2014 - 11:37am
It's not a speed limit, it's just a warning sign.

It should be there as a proper limit, and the thrown debris should be noted as one of the reasons.

The dust is annoying and nasty, but the gravel can really hurt - and if I wasn't wearing glasses...

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