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Re: It me or do SUVs alway drive to close

29 March 2015 - 3:22am
reohn2 wrote:BMW X5 width overall inc wing mirrors = 2197mm
Range Rover width overall inc wing mirrors = 2191mm
Merc S class width overall inc wing mirrors = 2130mm
Ford Focus width overall inc wing mirrors = 2045mm

76mm(3inch) on either side, between the widest SUV and an average family car is not a huge difference,I think you'll agree.

Yes, but no.

I'll concede that my difference was too large, because my S Class figure was without wing mirrors, but I also note that large SUVs are around 2220mm in width, which was my Range Rover number. See, for example:

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/f ... imensions/

And drivers sit on the right so have a greater awareness of closeness on that side, which will tend to make them drift left.

And that in the variations in passing distances noted in the research of Dr Ian Walker in 2006 differences of around 100mm are significant. So if the close passing by SUVs hypothesis is accurate and widespread, the width could be why.

http://drianwalker.com/overtaking/

Howevwer, Dr Walker failed to detect any difference in passing proximity distances between SUVs and Cars in his research, so perhaps it is all a red herring anyway .

Ferdinand

Re: It me or do SUVs alway drive to close

29 March 2015 - 1:34am
BMW X5 width overall inc wing mirrors = 2197mm
Range Rover width overall inc wing mirrors = 2191mm
Merc S class width overall inc wing mirrors = 2130mm
Ford Focus width overall inc wing mirrors = 2045mm

76mm(3inch) on either side, between the widest SUV and an average family car is not a huge difference,I think you'll agree.

Re: Taking a bike on a train

28 March 2015 - 4:46pm
Does anyone have any experience of taking cycles on South Eastern Trains? Unlike Southern they don't seem to have doors marked for wheelchair and cycle users.

Re: It me or do SUVs alway drive to close

28 March 2015 - 4:15pm
The Mechanic wrote:IHowever, I would like to point out that I am a cyclist, have 5 bikes and also drive a 4x4, and it is a BMW! What does that make me? A murdering mania one minute and a complaining cyclist the next?

Yep Especially if you ask the cyclopath lobby !

More seriously, I think this may have di to with the extra width of an SUV and people who drive them only part time, and something narrower at other times.

Even a big Merc S Class is a good foot narrower than a Range Rover, so if the driver places themselves in the same position on the road you can see the problem.

My most expensive road accident was when I pulled out of a space concentrating on the traffic, not the Saab parked in front, in a Fiat Multipla immediately after having driven a small hatchback. The overlap was about 9 inches and it cost about 7k. Never again.

Ferdinand

Re: It me or do SUVs alway drive to close

28 March 2015 - 2:40pm
stewartpratt wrote:I can't confidently say I notice a strong trend for any vehicle type. Confirmation bias is a very easy trap to fall into.

Me neither (after 20 years of cycle commuting)... except perhaps white vans.

Re: It me or do SUVs alway drive to close

28 March 2015 - 10:56am
Of course SUVs drive too close. They are too big for our roads.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

28 March 2015 - 10:55am
Not till the daytime temperature is in double digits every single day for at least a fortnight!

Re: Police stop 4yo pavement cyclist

28 March 2015 - 10:54am
I respect the law.
I am increasingly contemptuous of some of those who choose to enforce it.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

27 March 2015 - 11:44pm
Mistik-ka wrote:As soon as the snowdrifts are less than knee-high! (My best guess is the day after tomorrow )
Right on schedule — the snowdrifts and the shorts!
(Oh yes: plus jacket, headscarf under helmet, and insulated gloves. )

Re: Aldi selling Garmin 200 April 12th

27 March 2015 - 11:35pm
These were £69 at ASDA last year and not 2 months back were reduced further to £39, not only that but £70 is not shy of what you can buy them new in a few places. Honestly are these even worth it given how pretty basic they are? having a cheap GPS enabled android phone that comes loaded with google maps and/or one of the cycle software programs would likely be more useful and more practical for many.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

27 March 2015 - 8:49pm
Hi,
Out yesterday and toyed with the idea of just a thin sleeved base layer.......shorts and fingerless gloves of course.
BUT that wind...........on with the wind top but it did not last long (15 miles) and sweated all the way home (25 miles) when the sweat lands on my eyelashes I wont be covering up
15 C is always bare all but short sleeves and shorts.
Cycling is one of those sports where fast moving air cools you down, unlike walking 3.5 mph and running greater than 8 mph, you could well be putting in the same effort at 15 mph cycling.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

27 March 2015 - 2:40pm
When I find the safe place I put them in at the beginning of winter

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

27 March 2015 - 1:07pm
shorts the last week in july maybe my knees and leg bones tend to ache with the slightest of chills. ronhill tracksters most other times plus merino long johns underneath if it's really chilly.

Re: Anyone not been hit by a car

27 March 2015 - 10:24am
Never been hit by a car as such. I've had a car pull out from parking at the side of the road, it was too quick for me to swerve, so he just ended up with a door full of my left pedal. Karma.

I also lost control down a gritty lane, and the only effective brake I had was the bonnet of a parked car at the bottom.. Pride dented. Bonnet fine. Although the owner of the car didn't seem to care for my well being, and wondered off when he realised his car was unharmed!

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

27 March 2015 - 10:22am
Mick F wrote:Even the surfer dudes were wandering round the town with hoodies up and tracksuit bottoms plus hands in pockets.

We have those in Bolton too...cept they tend to be drinking bottles of Newcastle Brown with a cig in one hand

Re: getting your priorities right

27 March 2015 - 10:11am
I hit a whoditch in Somebodyville once.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

27 March 2015 - 9:33am
50odd miles up in the Watergate Bay/Newquay/Perranporth area yesterday.
Damned cold NW gale blowing. I was nearly blown over sideways on a couple of occasions.

Although I sweated a bit on the hills, I was glad of my LS top, base layer, and bib tights.

Shorts?
Good grief!
Even the surfer dudes were wandering round the town with hoodies up and tracksuit bottoms plus hands in pockets.

Re: getting your priorities right

27 March 2015 - 8:44am
Valbrona wrote:I am just waiting for an apparatchik from the 'Inclusive Cycling Secretariat' of the CTC to come along and say that the term 'manhole cover' is non-permissible. I think we are supposed to call them 'access covers' now.

What about personhole? Old version David Chapman a cyclist skidded on a manhole cover in Manchester, new version David Personperson a cyclist skidded on a personhole cover in Personchester.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

27 March 2015 - 8:11am
I add water to the bike for even short journeys - bottle gets ice in it each morning....

Aldi selling Garmin 200 April 12th

27 March 2015 - 8:11am




http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/news/artic ... ear-43912/


Seen on the above site that Aldi are supporting the Olympics!? (Am i the last to know ).
OK! feeding the gals and guys to give them the energy to get to the Olympics.

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