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Re: Deliveroo

11 February 2016 - 12:36pm
Monday night about 6pm I watched a Deliveroo cyclist go through red lights at the top of Park Street, dodging the traffic coming from his right along Park Row. He then pootled along the right-hand side of Queens Rd, opposite the Wills Building/Museum etc. No lights, dark clothing...

Re: Deliveroo

11 February 2016 - 11:27am
coffeedrinkerUK wrote:That place in St Nicholas market only sells components and accessory's but (not sure about this) they may do repairs on another site and Its been there a long time.

They do repairs but not wheel building. They are very helpful and reasonably priced.

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

11 February 2016 - 10:55am
Flinders wrote:If it was all accurately done, down to the hopeless prosecution and incompetent policing, it would make a good documentary.

This was my hope too. Reginald Scott has done an amazing job.

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

11 February 2016 - 10:53am
Flinders wrote:If it was all accurately done, down to the hopeless prosecution and incompetent policing, it would make a good documentary. Too many people think the police and the courts works like they do on TV crime series rather than being the shambles they are increasingly becoming.

When all has been said and done, had the victim been someone 'important', I'm sure the case would have gone completely differently from start to finish. That's what's most galling to me. Only the rich get justice (but the rich can swerve it as well when they are the perpetrators).

Spot on,on both counts.
The country has gone to the dogs.

Re: Too many vehicles!!!

11 February 2016 - 9:48am
Bmblbzzz wrote:pwa wrote:Bmblbzzz wrote:I agree totally that it's better to get along with people. This is so obvious to my mind it hardly is worth saying! And I don't think that patience (in drivers) is a particularly Welsh trait, though there are regional variations. To most people it's obvious that a cyclist going up a steep hill is working hard and they appreciate you're not wanting to hold them up.

However, I do think it's worth instituting car bans on many narrow lanes. Not just the steep ones, either! Or perhaps better than bans would be 'filtered permeability'; yes, I'm talking bollards! Or gates or whatever physical means may be used. The idea would be to stop through traffic – shortcuts, rat runs – while maintaining access for all.

And all deliveries to remote houses by Tesco, Yodel, etc, etc?
Yes, they'd take the main roads too, of course. So along the main road, into village A then back to the main road and on to village B, rather than cutting down the lanes between the villages. The same for buses too, of course, though I doubt if many of them use such narrow lanes. It would technically be possible to use rising bollards to allow access for buses, taxis, certain utilities and of course emergency vehicles, in which case deliveries might be added to the permitted vehicle list – perhaps for a fee – but whether it would be financially practical I doubt.

But my point is that your Yodel delivery might be to a remote house actually on the narrow road you want to close off. Remote houses have deliveries too. In practice you would never know whether the Yodel driver is using a lane to legitimately access a home along that lane, or just taking the shortest route. It would be completely unenforceable. And retractable bollards on roads where councils currently struggle to pay for simple pothole repairs? That's high cost urban infrastructure.

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

11 February 2016 - 9:46am
If it was all accurately done, down to the hopeless prosecution and incompetent policing, it would make a good documentary. Too many people think the police and the courts works like they do on TV crime series rather than being the shambles they are increasingly becoming.

When all has been said and done, had the victim been someone 'important', I'm sure the case would have gone completely differently from start to finish. That's what's most galling to me. Only the rich get justice (but the rich can swerve it as well when they are the perpetrators).

Re: Deliveroo

11 February 2016 - 9:35am
That place in St Nicholas market only sells components and accessory's but (not sure about this) they may do repairs on another site and Its been there a long time. "Iv bought a couple of things there."
There's a big Raleigh shop over at Gardener Haskins, it may seem a bit uncool to some, or maybe not ! but its there.

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

11 February 2016 - 9:01am
In suitable cases, particularly when driving into cyclists or other serious motoring offences should a motoring tag be required to be carried by the driver whenever using a vehicle, allowing tracking. In this way if they put cyclists or other at risk and are reported, the time and location may help ID them. Suggest a period of 10 years.

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

11 February 2016 - 8:46am
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
I was thinking today maybe the cyclist knows the drivers, not knows who they are, and there might be history, I am not slating the cyclist at all.

Not according to the you tube videos he's put up.

Re: Deliveroo

11 February 2016 - 1:00am
Bmblbzzz wrote:... there is a place in St Nick's Martket. Can't remember the name but it's not Blackbeard.

The name you're looking for is CHaOS cycles Cycles, Household and Other Stuff.

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

10 February 2016 - 11:21pm
Hi,
I was thinking today maybe the cyclist knows the drivers, not knows who they are, and there might be history, I am not slating the cyclist at all.

Re: oldies riding in the cold

10 February 2016 - 10:48pm
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Most uncomfortable ride today, wish I had abandoned and went home.
I normally look at forecast then the temp when I get up at 06.30, about 3 C.
Started to rain on the off and after an hour my hands were wet and cold, I normally go with minimum gear as I normally even on 5c and below sweat.
Had to stop , I was wearing full finger gloves that would be ok but its raining at 3-4C
Hands were numb and I struggled to change my gloves, then the pain was about the time I wanted to go home.
Carried on and decided to miss the silly hills on the slopes leading to Dartmoor (ice has kept me off them this year) but on the way back home my hands were going numb again , not wet but could barely feel them, more hand numb than cold.
One of my shoes was filling with water and I could not feel my right foot despite trying to drop and dip my foot, my cheap top was leaking and even my legs which are always warm started to complain with the rain.

When your hands hurt and your feet are numb you don't feel like going fast which is what I needed to warm up.
On the last ten or so miles I stood up a lot to get my feet working, effect was minor.
After half an hour at home I showered and only then did my right toes come back to life
Only 30 miles but was in hell, I need some new overshoes and a decent waterproof top.
Temp now 4C.

you must be mad

Re: oldies riding in the cold

10 February 2016 - 9:29pm
Hi,
Most uncomfortable ride today, wish I had abandoned and went home.
I normally look at forecast then the temp when I get up at 06.30, about 3 C.
Started to rain on the off and after an hour my hands were wet and cold, I normally go with minimum gear as I normally even on 5c and below sweat.
Had to stop , I was wearing full finger gloves that would be ok but its raining at 3-4C
Hands were numb and I struggled to change my gloves, then the pain was about the time I wanted to go home.
Carried on and decided to miss the silly hills on the slopes leading to Dartmoor (ice has kept me off them this year) but on the way back home my hands were going numb again , not wet but could barely feel them, more hand numb than cold.
One of my shoes was filling with water and I could not feel my right foot despite trying to drop and dip my foot, my cheap top was leaking and even my legs which are always warm started to complain with the rain.

When your hands hurt and your feet are numb you don't feel like going fast which is what I needed to warm up.
On the last ten or so miles I stood up a lot to get my feet working, effect was minor.
After half an hour at home I showered and only then did my right toes come back to life
Only 30 miles but was in hell, I need some new overshoes and a decent waterproof top.
Temp now 4C.

Re: The Poplar High St collision

10 February 2016 - 7:54pm
Other than slowing down and not cycling like an eejit, I can't see any way that the cyclist would have been able to avoid that bump.
8mph may not seem like much on paper, but it's still a fair old pace from which to stop quickly especially with wet brakes and wet roads, both of which will test the tyres grip. Bring hard cornering into that mix and there's the risk of losing all front grip. From the way the camera tilted just before impact, I'd say the rider knew braking alone wasn't going to cut it at that moment and did start turning to the left.
As much as I don't like to paint everyone with the same brush, most of us have figured out that steering wheel + engine + human = utter chaos and the only way to survive the motorised morons is not being morons ourselves, such as not speeding up the inside and treating drivers like nuclear bombs with faulty wiring.

Re: Too many vehicles!!!

10 February 2016 - 7:40pm
I'm often cycling on narrow rural lanes, and many drivers are extremely courteous and patient.

However on that day on that particular road there seemed to be just too many vehicles on that road.
It has a 3 ton weight restriction along it and I don't think many were "rat running" - whatever that means. However I had expected that little lane to be virtually traffic free and give me a chance of cycling up it. As it turned out I probably would have had to give up on it as it was steeper than I expected, but I won't know.

There are other hills which I know I can climb - even if only slowly - and although I don't like holding up a vehicle I do so because I know their delay will be short. That hill was an unknown to me, and I'm now a bit wary of trying again. Still it was good view at the top. , but I would have liked a better surface on the B road down.

Re: The Poplar High St collision

10 February 2016 - 7:14pm
mjr wrote:reohn2 wrote:In that circumstance s/he would simply not have had chance or hope in hell of avoiding the collision,however slower and with a small dose of anticipation,s/he would have been able to stop in time.
I'm not convinced. They were only doing 8mph when the car came into view and the roads were pretty wet.

These two bold bits are extremely relevant,IMO the cyclist may with a hard left,have even been hit by the nearside wing/front wheel,we'll just have to agree to differ.

The vast majority of drivers like the one in you're video clip are courteous but it's that small percentage that are the problem,the other problem is defining which are which

Re: Too many vehicles!!!

10 February 2016 - 6:04pm
Shire reeve = sheriff.

Re: Too many vehicles!!!

10 February 2016 - 5:46pm
mjr wrote:(near me, they're called the Reeve but I hadn't heard that term before)
Hadn't heard the term 'Reeve' before? Surely you knew about the Shire Reeves (and their recruitment by Sharky's men during the takeover of the Shire before that was ended at the Battle at Bag End?

Re: The Poplar High St collision

10 February 2016 - 5:17pm
reohn2 wrote:In that circumstance s/he would simply not have had chance or hope in hell of avoiding the collision,however slower and with a small dose of anticipation,s/he would have been able to stop in time.
I'm not convinced. They were only doing 8mph when the car came into view and the roads were pretty wet.

I think the best tactic would have been to turn very hard left into the side road, into the gap between car and kerb, and stopped behind the blue car parked in the side road, or run left over the kerb (the entrance to the side road appears to be on a ramp). The cyclist managed to slow to 5mph by the impact and the car didn't get close to the kerb as it turned it because it stayed out to help get around the parked cars.

When cycling I'm always acutely aware of my vulnerability,some cyclists just aren't.
I know how that may read but in the present circumstances on UK roads,I take no chances when cycling,but treat the rest of the road users around me as potential unpredictable lunatics and murderers.
I know what you mean. I've a list of tips compiled by local cyclists that I'll publish soon and watching for other road users doing daft and unusual things is one of them, but many of them are blissfully ignorant. Fortunately, we're blessed around here with lots of helpful motorists like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih70HEFE0TY

Re: Too many vehicles!!!

10 February 2016 - 5:08pm
Bmblbzzz wrote:The same for buses too, of course, though I doubt if many of them use such narrow lanes.
No, there are minimum clearances which most single-track+passing-place roads don't have. I did once see a 49-seat bus where the non-local driver had tried to use a single-track shortcut between two villages to avoid congestion on the main road: the bottom of the door had caught on the raised verge, dug in and bent, preventing the door from opening. Passengers were disembarking through the emergency exit and I don't think that driver will have been popular when he returned to the garage. I think it's the second-worst case of ignoring warning signs that I've seen.

It would technically be possible to use rising bollards to allow access for buses, taxis, certain utilities and of course emergency vehicles, in which case deliveries might be added to the permitted vehicle list – perhaps for a fee – but whether it would be financially practical I doubt.
Or just fit old-fashioned gates - with a gap to allow people to walk or cycle past, of course. That's usually enough to deter anyone who doesn't have to use the road. You do need someone who occasionally checks that the gate's closed (near me, they're called the Reeve but I hadn't heard that term before) but if they're there by popular consent, it won't be a problem.

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