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Re: Oh lordy, what have I let myself in for?

2 July 2014 - 7:48am
The OP mentioned upthread that he was in North Central London and was thinking of taking trains out, so I'd recommend the Central London CTC - http://www.centrallondonctc.org.uk

Re: Nightmare drive

2 July 2014 - 7:43am
We've only one account of what happened here and an angry one at that, and it doesn't look as though the OP has any intention of coming back.

One thing that nobody seems to have mentioned - and if I've missed it, sorry - is the effect of being in any group on the behaviour of its individual members. This can work in different ways: a formally organised group may follow an agreed procedure or take instructions from a leader, but people in less organised groups can behave badly to others, in a way they would not act if alone. I'm talking about groups generally here, not only cyclists, by any means. I can think of several times when I've been driving and a group of riders has deliberately been blocking a road to prevent anybody passing and it's been nothing more than showing off to each other. Obviously, I don't know what's happened here but it's one possibility of several. I'd be quick to add that sitting behind a steering wheel can also make many people behave badly in ways that they would not normally do, eg convincing of them of their superiority over others such as cyclists, so that's another possibility.

One thing that seems obvious to me is that there's no real reason for this road to be open to general motor traffic. I have driven up it, returning from a holiday in Wales and doing a bit of a recce for a bike tour that never materialised. (A red kite almost perched on the bonnet as we reached the top, without seeing any cyclists.) There are other, better roads giving motor access and this one could be restricted to local farm traffic etc., leaving it safer for cyclists and walkers. That's never going to happen.

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