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Re: BT Openreach cyclists stay back

19 May 2014 - 2:28pm
Vantage wrote:Googling the sign suggests we can blame London for them.
If I could be bothered, I'd carry a permanent marker so that if I saw one I could write under it, "Why? Can't you drive safely?"
I'd scribe "Because I'm not fit to drive" - maybe some guerilla stickers?

Re: Cyclists' Palsy?

19 May 2014 - 2:10pm
He gave the facts as somebody else had stated it could be a plausible explanation. He did not state it was the cause butt was one that had been suggested.

I had to deal with a coroner when my mil died and in my limited experience to do show compassion to the relatives. Done so in the boundaries of facts and witnesses statements.

Re: Cyclists' Palsy?

19 May 2014 - 2:04pm
Edwards wrote:The coroner could just have being showing compassion to a grieving father for the unexplained death of his young daughter.
But that isn't his job... I may come across "cold hearted" but he should only be talking about facts when he has his office cloathing on!

Re: Muppet Driver

19 May 2014 - 12:55pm
snibgo wrote:MGPTB (Must Get Past The Bike). .
isn't the point of acronyms that they're shorter?

Re: Muppet Driver

19 May 2014 - 12:53pm
Muppet cyclist

Re: 11 degree or 11%?

19 May 2014 - 12:47pm
Bicycler wrote:One disadvantage of percentages is that people misunderstand them. IME most people think that 100% is vertical, whereas it is half way (1 in 1, 1:1 or 45 degrees).
Ayesha wrote:0% is a snooker table, and 100% is the side of a house.

Re: Helmets and Insects

19 May 2014 - 12:43pm
DaveGos wrote:My new very expensive (NOT) Aldi helmet has a built in mesh to stop them

It soon fills up.

Re: 11 degree or 11%?

19 May 2014 - 12:38pm
The confusing thing is though is if you cycle along a flat road for two miles, you've ridden downhill for the first mile and uphill for the second.
If you ride along a road that's level, you don't go up or down hill, but follow the curvature of the Earth.

Half way along the two roads, there is an eight inch difference in their elevations.

Which tells you,,, canal towpaths are NEVER flat.

Re: 11 degree or 11%?

19 May 2014 - 12:35pm
Its easy.
0% is a snooker table, and 100% is the side of a house.

Re: CTC ride question

19 May 2014 - 12:34pm
LondonBikeCommuter wrote:Was looking at the local CTC website and noticed that there are a number of rides going out at weekends that I'd be interested in doing.
Firstly do you have to be a member to go on one? Also would love for the rides in question to be shown on Google maps or similar but there are only very basic details and a contact mobile phone number or am I missing something?

Give em a ring - you'll be welcome I'm sure.

I went out with my local (Bristol) group, having been a member of the national organisation for many years (to support cycling rather than for joining in per se). I chose a "moderate" to "easy" ride - there were various grades being run - and it was rather slow it must be said. But, and this is the important thing, there were people on that ride who could have done 4 times the distance in half the time - but didn't because this was targeted as a slow ride and they wanted to ensure everyone had a good time and could keep up OK. No one was dropped, nor even made to feel they were struggling, and a nicer bunch of people you couldn't meet. Although I've not yet been back, that's no reflection on the great bunch on the ride. The group ran various rides at various paces and distances - but I was very much made to feel welcome, and I'm sure the quicker rides would stick to the planned pace too - though I guess the balls-out-fast group might be more sporty .

If this group anything to go by, you'll have a great time

Re: CTC ride question

19 May 2014 - 12:15pm
I've not done any CTC rides yet ('cos I'm quite happy riding around the lanes by myself at the moment).

But, CTC's around me vary in terms of speed and distance. One group has rides on two set days of the week, one day is longer rides (50 miles 'ish), other day is shorter rides (30 miles 'ish). Of the two groups I am close to, one group has a "reputation" for going "harder and longer" than the other group (but I have ridden with neither so am only repeating what others have informally commented).

Anyway, my point is, check with your CTC group what sort of rides they do and if this matches with your own requirements (no point in going if you run out of energy at 10 miles and they are all going 50; or if you are looking for 60+ mile training rides and they do a flat circular 10 mile ride).


Re: Cyclists' Palsy?

19 May 2014 - 12:07pm
What about epilepsy even, can that be ruled in or out post mortem? There was a case on telly a while back where a cyclist had run out of control down a hill, hit the bridge parapet, and ended up face down in the river 30 feet below after he had an epileptic seizure. He survived with only minor injuries, but if he hadn't already been diagnosed and the following van driver hadn't been there to fish him out of the drink, would anyone have known?

Re: Cyclists' Palsy?

19 May 2014 - 12:04pm
Compassion isn't the Coroner's job.

Re: Cyclists' Palsy?

19 May 2014 - 9:42am
I was on an audax yesterday, ended up riding about 70miles of it by myself. It was hot down here (Cornwall) and my hoods got a bit slippy and my left hand slipped completely as I was really giving it some. I managed to keep the bike upright but it could of ended worse.

No one would of know the cause of the accedent if something happend and I ended up dead. Same here, she could of hit a pothole, slippy hands, day dreaming, felt dizzy, mechanical that is hard to repeat (we all have been there when trying to fix things), sun in her eyes.

What I getting at is numb hands seems quite far down the list of why you would crash. I've had numb hands once or twice while getting bike fitting right, never did I feel like I wasn't in control.

Re: Cyclists' Palsy?

19 May 2014 - 9:37am
Momentary lack of concentration - or even dozing off (yes it can happen on a bike, as well as at the wheel of a car) - could have accounted for this tragedy. Having said that, my wife often gets numbness in the hands when cycling - not enough to prevent her braking. So do I - very occasionally. Possibly a form of RSI, or carpal tunnel syndrome: I'm no medic.

I am mindful of the time, many years ago (in my 20s) when I undertook a hair-raising night-time descent of Holme Moss in the Peak District, and came within a whisker of slamming into a wall. I put that down to fatigue and inattentiveness. It was a close thing - which is why I still remember it!

And there's the tragic story of Fabio Casartelli to consider...

Re: Cyclists' Palsy?

19 May 2014 - 9:34am
Never heard such rubbish, if road surface .is potentially bad could that not be equally a cause for loss of control.

Re: Cyclists' Palsy?

19 May 2014 - 9:18am
From the report:-
Andrew Cox, assistant coroner for Exeter and Greater Devon, recorded a verdict of accidental death.
He said cyclist's palsy - when the nerves in the hand go numb - was the best explanation for what happened.
However, he added there was no "evidence" for it.

Oh dear there's been a fatal cycling crash.
What caused it?
How about ''cyclist palsy''
That settles it then.
Speculation is the only ''evidence'' they have and as such is only guess work,incredible really and says more about the system of determining someone's tragic demise than anything else.

BTW any road into Branscombe is a descent on narrow undulating lanes with some bad and bumpy surfaces and side lanes/driveways in parts and it can be fast.
I wouldn't ''let the bike go'' down them and would have the brakes cover at all times.

Re: 11 degree or 11%?

19 May 2014 - 8:55am
Thanks for clarifying that Bicycler. I'm still finding it difficult to fully interpret the %. It's just my blind spot I guess. 3 in 1 is easy to visualize isn't it? Three steps forward, one step up. The % seems to be so abbreviated that it looses it's meaning, at least to me. I'm used to thinking of %'s as a proportion of a whole. Transposing them to a hill is the difficulty.

Re: CTC ride question

19 May 2014 - 7:46am
LondonBikeCommuter wrote:Also would love for the rides in question to be shown on Google maps or similar but there are only very basic details and a contact mobile phone number or am I missing something?Route details can often be made up on the day. I have never (in 45 years of CTC membership) been on a normal club ride that had a route predetermined, only the destination or location of tea stops etc.

Re: Cyclists' Palsy?

19 May 2014 - 7:39am
They guessed that is the reason, no proof and they even say that in the artical. I wish that people who have a job that people respect (Dr, Nurse, Soliciter etc) just stick to hard facts.


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