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Re: Sunday Times: drivers should pass close

18 January 2015 - 3:53pm
Re Sunday Times attitudes: approx a couple of years ago the ST stopped referring to "road tax" in its car reviews, but after a little while, it returned to that term. As they were using one term and chnaged it back to the old, incorrect term, this surely must have been a conscious decision made by a person, which is quite puzzling. I'd really like an explanation.

Re: Surly DT - Christened by the Ice Demons

18 January 2015 - 3:16pm
I backed out of this mornings club ride. Went for a walk mid morning instead, very warm in the glorious sunshine but still very icy in the shade. IMO not worth the risk. Looks like it'll be the tedious following the bus routes into work tomorrow, rather than the direct cycle paths.

Re: Cyclist Assaulted By Taylor Landscaping Worker

18 January 2015 - 3:11pm
Stradageek wrote:Anyone who is insecure about themselves in any way

Sorry, that made me laugh, it covers me and everyone I've ever met.

Re: Cyclist Assaulted By Taylor Landscaping Worker

18 January 2015 - 3:09pm
I rode into the back of a white landscapers van once. Not much of an excuse, I simply wasn't paying enough attention, I sort of assumed he'd run the amber light at the bottom of a hill and he didn't. I was already braking but not hard enough. Damaged paint on rear door, front wheel, shoulder and ego. Driver got out and after laughing at me, stuck the bike in the back and drove me the few miles home.
Nothing to do with the OP, but if we're trotting out our WVM stories I though I'd add mine.

Re: Sunday Times: drivers should pass close

18 January 2015 - 2:42pm
Cyclists will also cause problems because a robot car would follow the letter of the Highway Code, crawling behind them as it waits for a gap equal to that when overtaking a car.

Re: Surly DT - Christened by the Ice Demons

18 January 2015 - 2:30pm
The main roads across the levels are fine. Managed a ride from Taunton to Glastonbury this morning. Minor roads were icy though. I suspect you are a bit higher than us. It's surprising how conditions deteriorate as you go uphill
Hope you didn't do too much damage. Forecast tonight is not good - looks like a walking day tomorrow.

Re: Sunday Times: drivers should pass close

18 January 2015 - 2:26pm
TonyR wrote:No, its this one but still behind the paywall.

Edit: seems like it's the same article even though the original headline was different.
If there is relevant text in the article, apart from that shown in the picture which has already been posted, could someone with access possibly copy and paste it? (Not the entire article).

Re: Cyclist Assaulted By Taylor Landscaping Worker

18 January 2015 - 2:17pm
I wonder why he doesn't want to press charges?
It it were me, I'd press them damned hard!

There must be more to this story.

Re: Surly DT - Christened by the Ice Demons

18 January 2015 - 1:37pm
HC
Hope you're OK and not too shook up(unlike the milk )

Tip:-
Thermometer hung up outside,if the roads are wet and it's below 4degC don't risk it

Re: Cyclist Assaulted By Taylor Landscaping Worker

18 January 2015 - 1:30pm
Injured party traced - case CDP (complainant declines to prosecute.)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-30869791

BBC now putting "attacked" in quotes.

Re: Sunday Times: drivers should pass close

18 January 2015 - 1:23pm
Psamathe wrote:Audax67 wrote:Hardly worth getting all het up about - it's speculative fiction.
To me the harm from such articles does not come from speculation about future vehicles. The damage is in what it says to current drivers. It says that the reason traffic moves it thanks to all these drivers who ignore the Highway Code and don't give cyclists and horse riders adequate passing space. It indirectly suggests that cyclists should ride in the gutter (again, ignoring the Highway Code). It presents cyclists as a major hindrance to road users.

Damage is about "now" rather than the future (I agree it is "speculative fiction" in that regard).
Exactly! and what I was alluding to in my first post.

I assume the various cycling organisations e.g. CTC will be complaining and getting a correction and apology printed.

Ian
I wouldn't count on it,it'll be let slide like so much other tripe printed in 'news'papers, and other media vomit spouting articles regarding cycling and cyclists.
I find such subliminal crap utterly depressing and sometimes wonder if the journos who write such rubbish know the damage they're doing,or if it's a chance to follow the Clarksonite rantings to twist the knife into a section of society,already at the butt end of his sickly humour.

Re: Sunday Times: drivers should pass close

18 January 2015 - 12:40pm
661-Pete wrote:I presume this is the article referred to, but it's behind the paywall. Seeing as it comes from the same pigsty as the notorious piece some years ago which suggested decapitating cyclists with piano wire, I'm hardly surprised.

No, its this one but still behind the paywall.

Edit: seems like it's the same article even though the original headline was different.

Re: Sunday Times: drivers should pass close

18 January 2015 - 12:33pm
Audax67 wrote:Hardly worth getting all het up about - it's speculative fiction.

Its not the speculative fiction, it's the attitudes that created the speculative fiction that are the problem.

Re: ASL and motorcyclists

18 January 2015 - 12:21pm
I too ride a motorcycle (2days commute on the motorbike and 3 days bicycle) I think I can safely say that I am the only motorcyclist in Bristol who respects ASL and only use them when on my bicycle not the motorbike. ASL's are there for the safety of cyclist's not the convenience of motorcyclists.

Re: Surly DT - Christened by the Ice Demons

18 January 2015 - 11:41am
Heltor Chasca wrote:That's got to be my record-breaking, shortest ride ever:

The plan was to set out for the day, panniers loaded with my Trangia, tea-bags, milk, lunch etc.

I turned out my drive and bit the tarmac. Crash, bang wallop. Map off, brake lever "characterised" and my shin scagged by my nice, sharp DMR flatties. Milk's a bit frothy too! It's so icy I could push my bike sideways back up the drive! Just seen a neighbour zoom by on his bike towards a right angle bend on our road

Hurumppff - Might just prune my apple trees
Sorry to read that HC hope you are now enjoying cuppa whilst on here.
Thankfully just rain here but I still went for a run early instead.

Re: Surly DT - Christened by the Ice Demons

18 January 2015 - 11:23am
I abandoned too. Ice and fog here in NW england. I'm not going to risk broken bones. Been a rubbish start to cycling year, only about 40 miles done. Combination of weather (gales, ice, snow and rain) and work has really restricted riding opportunities.

Surly DT - Christened by the Ice Demons

18 January 2015 - 11:16am
That's got to be my record-breaking, shortest ride ever:

The plan was to set out for the day, panniers loaded with my Trangia, tea-bags, milk, lunch etc.

I turned out my drive and bit the tarmac. Crash, bang wallop. Map off, brake lever "characterised" and my shin scagged by my nice, sharp DMR flatties. Milk's a bit frothy too! It's so icy I could push my bike sideways back up the drive! Just seen a neighbour zoom by on his bike towards a right angle bend on our road

Hurumppff - Might just prune my apple trees

Re: Interesting.

18 January 2015 - 11:10am
I think cycling is stuck between a rock and a hard place at times. A lot of people ride on the pavement because they are wary of riding on the road. Whether that fear has any merit is debatable. That area of Manchester, I have been told, sees a lot of cycling accidents and the roads are very conjested.
Funnily enough GMP were complaining they had only four officers on duty on New Years Eve, yet they have enough for this.
My son is a Police officer in GMP and is solo manned on all his shifts because of the officer shortage. He tells me he ignores errant cyclists. He just does not have the time to deal with such minor issues. He sees it as a PCSO thing and I believe their advice is, if pavement riding is not a risk to the public, leave it alone.
He does however come down hard on mobile phone use.

Re: Sunday Times: drivers should pass close

18 January 2015 - 11:02am
Audax67 wrote:Hardly worth getting all het up about - it's speculative fiction.
To me the harm from such articles does not come from speculation about future vehicles. The damage is in what it says to current drivers. It says that the reason traffic moves it thanks to all these drivers who ignore the Highway Code and don't give cyclists and horse riders adequate passing space. It indirectly suggests that cyclists should ride in the gutter (again, ignoring the Highway Code). It presents cyclists as a major hindrance to road users.

Damage is about "now" rather than the future (I agree it is "speculative fiction" in that regard).

I assume the various cycling organisations e.g. CTC will be complaining and getting a correction and apology printed.

Ian

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