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Re: Learning to ride on the road with a mountain bike?

20 June 2014 - 3:18pm
pyruse wrote:I still use 3 in 1 on my chain (and indeed on other moving stuff on the bike); it works fine. Does that make me a bad person?+1

Re: Wandsworth Bridge, London

20 June 2014 - 2:40pm
Should TROs be made online by default - and have to have reference numbers on signs?

Re: Learning to ride on the road with a mountain bike?

20 June 2014 - 2:31pm
I still use 3 in 1 on my chain (and indeed on other moving stuff on the bike); it works fine. Does that make me a bad person?

Re: Wandsworth Bridge, London

20 June 2014 - 2:27pm
Traffic Regulation Order. The bit of paper that said that they could make the cycle path, and specified exactly how it should work.

Re: Wandsworth Bridge, London

20 June 2014 - 2:20pm
[XAP]Bob wrote:You'd have to look at the TRO (how often do we hear that about motor restrictions?) but the signs are up both ways if you look down by the fuel oil silos (although that could be for the information of pedestrians)

TRO?

Re: Wandsworth Bridge, London

20 June 2014 - 2:11pm
You'd have to look at the TRO (how often do we hear that about motor restrictions?) but the signs are up both ways if you look down by the fuel oil silos (although that could be for the information of pedestrians)

Wandsworth Bridge, London

20 June 2014 - 1:45pm
Wandsworth bridge has a cycle path on the pavement on both sides of the bridge (as seen https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Wandsworth+Bridge,+A217/@51.464966,-0.187848,3a,75y,338.39h,61.42t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1saTlCg_YDBRIrbb2bA9WWrw!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x48760f7d81418f55:0xb7276226e2d91e4e)

The painted cycle signs on the cycle path are in the same direction as the flow of traffic on the road but are cyclists allowed to cycle in the other direction? There are some cycle paths that do allow cycling in both directions. What's the actual legal rules?

Re: Nice lady,

20 June 2014 - 12:32pm
I used to work on the same site as a test centre until a couple of years ago, and the surrounding roads were festooned with learner drivers practicing reversing, reverse parking and 3 point turns. A right pain when you are trying to get to or from work!

Re: Quick ride out...

20 June 2014 - 9:53am
First idiot free morning since the OP today...

Why do motorists love traffic jams *so* much?

btw:

Re: Nice lady,

20 June 2014 - 9:21am
Flinders wrote:May be you're on a test route.
Possibly - although we live on the opposite side of town from where the test centre is, and the activity we see doesn't look like tests (if it were, there'd be a lot of failures ). I thought that instructors had a sort of unwritten code of conduct to 'stay off the test routes' so as not to impede actual tests.

Although I still think that a lot of this manoeuvring stuff is irrelevant - or, at the very least, should be practiced and conducted off the road - there's one activity that I would like to see reinstated. When I took my test we had to give hand signals on the move - but this is no longer asked for. Perhaps if candidates were forced to give hand signals whilst driving along, they might learn to appreciate signals given by cyclists more. Moreover, when cycling (and bear in mind most adult cyclists are also motorists) they might not be so shy about giving proper hand signals, with the arm extended right out - instead of the pusillanimous finger-gestures from the hip that I see some cyclists deliver.

Re: Quick ride out...

19 June 2014 - 10:07pm
Love the wing-nut
slower than a modern quick-release but avoided the need to carry tyre levers

I've never tried using a wing nut to remove a tyre....

Re: Quick ride out...

19 June 2014 - 9:08pm
661-Pete wrote:
Love the wing-nuts too! I can remember seeing those on bikes - another echo from the past.

I had them on one of my bikes - slower than a modern quick-release but avoided the need to carry tyre levers

Re: Learning to ride on the road with a mountain bike?

19 June 2014 - 8:18pm
Thanks for all of the advice! I have no idea where to start when it comes to bike maintenance so I'll definitely get it serviced beforehand- I'll see if I can find anyone to teach me how to maintain my bike after that. I'm going to book a Bikeability course soon so that should help with learning to ride on roads . What tyres would you recommend for road riding? I'm thinking of Schwalbe City Jets as they seem affordable. Thanks for all of the help .

Re: Nice lady,

19 June 2014 - 8:03pm
Had a similar episode with a driving instructor, so sent video to driving school pointing out that he was totally ignorant of the highway code, ans my concern over the content of the lesson as the pupil was also being incorrectly instructed..

Heard nothing for a week, then very apologetic reply, ensuring me that it was NOT their normal standard and that both instructor ans student had been instructed with the fact that bicycle do not have to use cycle paths

Re: Nice lady,

19 June 2014 - 7:30pm
661-Pete wrote:If a pupil commits a motoring offence, the instructor can be prosecuted for aiding and abetting, I believe. If it's a large school covering a wide area, you could always try complaining to the school, I suppose. But many driving schools are one-person outfits, so that wouldn't work.

Needless to say, I've seen examples of poor driving by learners, but I live in the hope that the instructor is there to correct such errors. But you can't be sure.

There is the general feeling in our (quiet, residential) area, that there are far too many L-drivers anyway. Not just from us, I've heard such comments from our neighbours too. We live on a corner and have a continual stream of cars rolling up to do the 'reverse-around-a-corner' trick, noisily revving up and spewing exhaust fumes into our garden in the process. Yes it does get tedious, when it's been going on (in our case) for the past 30 years. Incidentally, how often does one have to do this manoeuvre in real life? Reverse into driveway, into parking space, using one's mirrors: yes, we all have to do that - but round a wide-radiused corner in a wide road? I would rather, this sort of stuff were dropped from the driving test, and replaced with special cyclist-awareness exercises.

But lots of us have been saying that for a long time. Nothing happens.

May be you're on a test route. We are. When I pop put for a spin midweek there is nearly always a learner driver somewhere here, I generally see at least one either going out, coming back or both. It's a quiet street with short dead-end side streets off it, so it's juicy meat for practicing reversing round corners. I can't say I've had any problems so far as a cyclist or driver, though. I reckon there being plenty of cyclists coming round here too is good, as the instructors, if they're decent, get the chance to teach their students about us. I can't say I've noticed any fume problems either, not ought there to be if the cars are properly maintained. If they aren't, they need reporting.

Re: Speed Wobble and hand position.

19 June 2014 - 2:49pm
FWIW,I used to have a bike that didn't like Schwalbe Marathon H308's if I tried to ride no hands,various TP's didn't make any difference.
I could never feel it through my hands on the 'bars but if left hands off,it would've brought me off.
Slick tyres Gatorskins,solved the problem.

Re: Tailgating

19 June 2014 - 1:39pm
I've had the same thing happen several times - i have had them run in to the back of me too when i've stopped for lights and they've clearly been of the red light runner variety.

Re: Tailgating

19 June 2014 - 12:09pm
Think yourself lucky he's giving you a 'bow-wave'...

Re: Tailgating

19 June 2014 - 11:57am
It's not just about aerodynamics though is it, it is also about personal space and safety. I do not do group riding (although I may well be joining a club in the near future) so I am slightly unnerved if someone, especially someone I do not know, gets right up my ****.

The difference with bikes and cars is that it is much more easy to communicate your intentions as there is no glass or engine noise to be dealt with, other than passing cars that is. A simple 'now then mate, Ok if I draft you?' would have settled things and I may well have made a road buddy.

What if I had to brake suddenly and he goes into the back of me as i had no idea he was there? I certainly wouldn't be thankful for aerodynamics then!

Re: Tailgating

19 June 2014 - 10:14am
I read years ago that a rider on his own experiences more drag than a rider with another behind him, provided the other guy is close enough for a single aerodynamic envelope to form around them both. So maybe "hey, thanks!" would be the right reaction. Courtesy, of course, would also require that he take a turn up front.

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