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Re: Share the space drop your pace

20 May 2015 - 7:46pm
What's the point in fishing if you don't eat the result?

Re: Share the space drop your pace

20 May 2015 - 7:35pm
Richard Fairhurst wrote:There are actually notices up on several canals to tell Polish (and other) anglers that, when you've caught a fish, you put it back rather than taking it home and cooking it: http://www.anglingtrust.net/page.asp?section=709

so is it generally not permitted to eat the fish?

Re: Share the space drop your pace

20 May 2015 - 7:31pm
Si wrote:Bloody Poles coming over here pinching the jobs off of good British rods.....sorry, I was looking for the immigration thread
The British rod industry died out years ago, it's all Exage or Ultegra now.

Re: Question about this video

20 May 2015 - 6:55pm
Sorry. I thought that I wrote, Frankly, the video is shocking, but we don't know the road, what happened before the incident, or anything else that isn't in the video.

I see now that I left off the last bit.

Why didn't you understand what I meant to say?

Re: Roadcycling fimed whit pro drone in 4k definition

20 May 2015 - 5:26pm
I wish the terrain around here was as flat as that - and the roads as smooth.

Re: Question about this video

20 May 2015 - 3:41pm
Vorpal wrote:Tonyf33 wrote: we can see EVERYTHING that we need to see to know there was only one person at fault here and that wasn't the cyclist.
I was not trying to imply otherwise. I certainly wasn't trying to blame the cyclists.
I was responding to you saying this "but we don't know the road, what happened before the incident, or anything else"
Do you not think in hindsight that that sentence is pretty wide of the mark? You effectively said we don't know what happened at all, the thing is we do know what happened and why.
I never tried to imply that you did blame the cyclist/s, just that when you say we don't know what happened that simply isn't accurate.

Re: Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 and 3: Cycling out of?

20 May 2015 - 3:25pm
Thanks, Iviehoff. And with our Freedom passes, pay zilch from Hayes and Harlington!

Re: Question about this video

20 May 2015 - 1:56pm
Tonyf33 wrote: we can see EVERYTHING that we need to see to know there was only one person at fault here and that wasn't the cyclist.
I was not trying to imply otherwise. I certainly wasn't trying to blame the cyclists.

Re: Question about this video

20 May 2015 - 1:00pm
Vorpal wrote:Tonyf33 wrote:so hang on, it sounds like most of you are blaming the cyclist here..WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU!!!
The HGV comes thundering past UNDERTAKING whilst driving over the chevrons with not enough space to get past at a ridiculous speed, basically couldn't be arsed to overtake or made a late decision not come off the off ramp.
The cyclist wants to move over into the inside lane which IF he had actually moved over he'd be dead

For those of you saying he probably shouldn't be there, how do you know what is acceptable in that country, do you say that a cyclist in this country on a d/c shouldn't be there because of fast moving motorvehicles?
I don't think anyone is blaming the cyclists. Maybe suggesting some things that could have been done to avoid the incident, but that's not blame. Frankly, the video is shocking, but we don't know the road, what happened before the incident, or anything else.

Well actually we do, we can see everything I've described,
we can see that a mirror would have made no difference, we can see that the HGV crosses the chevrons illegally, we can see that the HGV undertakes at a ridiculous speed, we can see that the HGV passes far too close to a vulnerable road user at a point of the road where there is no space nor suitable by any stretch of the imagination, we can see that the cyclists hold their line, we can see that the HGV collides with the cyclists and injures one of them, we can see that the HGV doesn't stop, we can see EVERYTHING that we need to see to know there was only one person at fault here and that wasn't the cyclist.

Re: Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 and 3: Cycling out of?

20 May 2015 - 12:00pm
Also, if you are tight, like me, you might notice that Heathrow Connect charges a rather fancy price for the one stop from Heathrow to Hayes and Harlington, which is deliberately kept high to protect HExpress's even fancier fares. So you could use the free bus service through the tunnel, ride the approx. 2 miles from there to Hayes and Harlington Stn, (northern perimeter road, turn left onto A437, v easy) and use local railway services without the one-bike restriction from there and at normal prices instead of fancy HConnect price.

Re: Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 and 3: Cycling out of?

20 May 2015 - 11:48am
I don't know if it is of any significance, or just a glitch, but the TfL route planner (for me at least) will only give a cycling result if you select Heathrow Terminal 5 (not Terminla 1,2,3 or T4).

You've probably already seen but the Heathrow website says
Bicycles can also be taken free of charge between Heathrow terminals, even if you are not taking your cycle on a flight. (link)
Rick.

Re: Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 and 3: Cycling out of?

20 May 2015 - 11:18am
That sounds like excellent advice. Many thanks, Iviehoff.
I await answers from Heathrow Connect, which might be helpful, too. Whatever the result, I will pass it on to this forum.

Re: Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 and 3: Cycling out of?

20 May 2015 - 10:45am
You can use Heathrow Express to travel at no charge between from T123 to T4. Then you can just cycle off site. I have several times cycled from Heathrow T4 to Feltham Railway Station, a distance of around a mile, to use local rail services.

Alternatively you can use the free bus service to get through the tunnel out of T123. I have successfully done this on a previous occasion when the tunnel was closed to cyclists. On that occasion it took me to a car park just off the northern perimeter road, which is a good road to use to cycle off the airport.

London Underground will definitely not let you put a bicycle on an underground train even in a plastic bag or box. Their concern is the size of the object causing an obstruction if the train has to be evacuated in the tunnel between Heathrow and Hounslow.

Re: Share the space drop your pace

20 May 2015 - 10:18am
Billy, a well-known local farmer/jack of all trades took a more direct approach, causing something of a stir...

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/yourto ... ed_racist/

Re: Share the space drop your pace

20 May 2015 - 10:02am
There are actually notices up on several canals to tell Polish (and other) anglers that, when you've caught a fish, you put it back rather than taking it home and cooking it: http://www.anglingtrust.net/page.asp?section=709

Re: Heathrow Terminals 1, 2 and 3: Cycling out of?

20 May 2015 - 9:52am
Many thanks (Vorpal) for these links, which I had looked at before writing to the Forum. I am not keen to risk jobsworths stopping us getting on trains with bikes in plastic, and anyway the task of carrying 2 bikes in plastic plus 5 panniers may be beyond this 70-year-old!
TFL website replies: "Journey planner could not find any results to your search, please try again" when I attempted to find a cycle route from T1, T2, T3. Heathrow Express may be an option, but its costly and takes us too far into central London. There were reports elsewhere that it too was limiting bike carriage to ONE per train. Heathrow Connect would be ideal, as it stops at West Ealing and at Ealing Broadway from where we can cycle easily home to Chiswick. I am checking with Heathrow Connect via their email enquiries site.
Heathrow says on its website: "Cyclists are not be permitted to access Terminals 1, 2 and 3 using the main tunnel." Nowhere can I see any reference to alternative routes in or out of the airport.
In fact another document re the Heathrow Cycle Hub says:
"Main Tunnel Refurbishment - Tunnel Closed to Cyclists
The main tunnel is undergoing a major refurbishment to install new and upgrade 25 different systems including lighting, ventilation, emergency exits and road resurfacing.
To support the tunnel refurbishment project, cyclists are no longer permitted to access the Central Terminal Area (CTA) using the main tunnel, and should instead use the new secure facility at the Cycle Hub and then catch a free bus to complete their journey. The project aims to make the side tunnels available again to the business as soon as possible, once the tunnels have been upgraded with the introduction of the new and improved systems."
I am hoping that other members who have recent experience of getting out of Heathrow can help. Ideally, by cycling, but, if not, by public transport. Once out of Heathrow, it's probably the A4 with its far-from-ideal cycle track… After cycling in Holland and Germany, one quickly wishes the UK would go much further in matching the high standards of their bike routes.
Many thanks, again, for replying and for your advice.

Re: Share the space drop your pace

20 May 2015 - 9:39am
Si wrote:Bloody Poles coming over here pinching the jobs off of good British rods.....sorry, I was looking for the immigration thread

Don't you mean you were longing________________ for an immigration thread

Re: Share the space drop your pace

20 May 2015 - 9:38am
ian s wrote:reohn2 wrote -
The idea of the long poles is so they can fish either side of the canal not just one side.

On countless occasions I have seen long poles used to fish on the opposite side of the canal, but never ever to date seen anyone fishing the towpath side with a 2 or 3 foot rod. It is usually the very long poles that impede tow path users, though sometimes the vast boxes of whatever do also

Boney's post covers the fishing the far bank and without going into the whole of angling techniques you'll have to take my word for it anglers do fish other parts of the water in front of them though it does depend on depth and boat traffic.
I don't wish to get into slanging match about it but IME anglers tend to try,where the towpath is
narrow,to leave as much of it clear as they can,if I have to dismount and walk around behind an angler on a particularly narrow bit I don't see it as too much of a hinderance but see it as perhaps a chance for a chat and ask if he's caught anything.
You do get the odd obstinate one who thinks the canal belongs to him/her alone because they pay to fish but it's rare,but generally they're helpful and courteous.
YVMV but the canals and towpaths that run alongside them are leisure facilities to be used at a leisurely pace,not Strava routes which is what the leaflet in the OP's link is informing people,they belong to us all and everyone has a right to use them but IMHO cyclists(like motorists on the roads) have more responsibility as the one capable of most harm to others.
Canal fishing is nowhere near as popular as it used to be on the L&L,Lancaster,Trent&Mersey,Warrington,StHelens,Sankey canals where I ride but generally I find anglers to be cooperative and pleasant.

EDIT:- I haven't fished for 20 years but I do see both sides of the debate.

Re: Share the space drop your pace

20 May 2015 - 9:09am
Bloody Poles coming over here pinching the jobs off of good British rods.....sorry, I was looking for the immigration thread

Re: Share the space drop your pace

20 May 2015 - 8:08am
The towpath side sees a lot of traffic and as a result fish tend to congregate on the quieter far bank, hence the use of poles.

Poles also allow much more precise and accurate fishing than does a conventional running line outfit.

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