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Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

2 February 2016 - 9:40am
One of the comments on youtube is from someone from BBC News Online, so hopefully they'll report on it.

Re: My puncture phobia

2 February 2016 - 9:40am
Terrytrek wrote:NUKe wrote:I have good results with Gatorskin hardshells (If they come in the size you want) Nil punctures in 7k miles on 25mm
Sorry again! My latest puncture was with a Gatorskin! Rear wheel again. Grrrrr!
try the Hardshells then as I said in the above post Not the Duraskins

Re: 2016 Days without incident

2 February 2016 - 9:37am
Postboxer wrote:Also, factor out motorway miles, which are safest per mile for driving but cyclists aren't allowed so not fair to be in the comparison.

Yes, the more you think about it the less easy it is to compare. I used to cycle to work at a place where I was the only regular cycle commuter. Everyone else arrived by car. Including one of my best friends, who was overweight and suffering with his health. Yes, on his actual journey to work he may have been less at risk from harm caused by other road users, but the major risk factor, for him, is his lack of physical fitness. For him the danger from cycling would be minor in comparison. He once joked that the only thing more dangerous than cycling is not cycling!

I really believe that if 100,000 people started cycling to work (having never done it before) the number of lives saved through increased fitness and the avoidance of illness would be greater than the lives lost through accidents on the road. Much greater.

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

2 February 2016 - 9:33am
pwa wrote:Prosecution with that evidence would seem so straightforward, unless there is uncertaintly about who was driving. I'd be surprised if this story doesn't have more to come.
I think it's more "can't be bothered".
Had the Volvo passed a yellow box at 36mph without hurting anyone they'd have been all over it like a bad rash and a prosecution and points would have ensued no problem.
That nothing happens when someone is injured (and apparently deliberately) shows at the very least the shortcomings of the system and potentially is an indication that it's 'not fit for purpose'.

We should expect better.

Re: 2016 Days without incident

2 February 2016 - 9:27am
Also, factor out motorway miles, which are safest per mile for driving but cyclists aren't allowed so not fair to be in the comparison.

Re: 2016 Days without incident

2 February 2016 - 4:59am
Yes, it's far less scary, it's much less stressful I find driving a car very much less risky than cycling. To be safe and to ensure those around you are safe it takes less overall effort/thinking than cycling because other motor vehicles won't act the same compared to when I'm on a bike. People are invariably predictable when you're driving, when you're cycling people are less predictable, their behaviour varies massively from second to second. You are far less able to control your environment/other road users (despite riding defensively and in accordance with the accepted methods of controlling your environ) even less so without fear/threat of harm..
'We' keep denying that cycling is high risk or dangerous when mixing with motorised traffic but the evidence is there.

Of course there are other health benefits, of course other activities have similar or even higher death tolls(but tea cosy wearing isn't anything to do with travel/outdoor activity whose risk factor is measured and accepted as such in distance travelled) So,. per billion miles travelled and that mostly involves being on a rosd/interacting with other 'traffic'/road users the risk of death/injury through cycling is massively more than being in a car by the accepted method of measuring (on this forum and by those doing the studies worldwide at least)

The stats define the risk of injury/death NOT lifespan or increased health benefits.
It highlights the huge disparity in safety for cyclists compared to the most popular mode of transport and that needs addressing in a big way rather than the ineffectual ways we currently do that have negligible impact on the safety of cyclists
We need to stop kidding ourselves that anything really useful has being done to change the status quo..it really hasn't!

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

1 February 2016 - 11:33pm
karlt wrote:661-Pete wrote:Attempted murder. No other way to describe it.

You think the intent was specifically to kill?

There are more subtle ways to tickle a cyclist. Using a 2 ton suv isn't one of them.

Re: Slow riders?

1 February 2016 - 11:15pm
I average 10mph (including stops) or 12mph rolling speed on Audaxes. Longest one I have done so far was 131km (including unscheduled diversions aka wrong turns - official distance was 123km). I am usually last or just before last but as there are no records kept of places or speeds on Audax, who cares! I am getting value for money

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

1 February 2016 - 11:03pm
Shocking, can't think of another way of describing it.

What would the chances be of a private prosecution getting a result for the cyclist?

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

1 February 2016 - 10:44pm
661-Pete wrote:Attempted murder. No other way to describe it.

You think the intent was specifically to kill?

Re: My puncture phobia

1 February 2016 - 10:19pm
I will say that I have abandoned normal tyres for studded ones. And I'm on those for at least another month, maybe two, with the possible exception of a Sunday ride or two in good conditions.

Re: My puncture phobia

1 February 2016 - 10:16pm
I will (as usual ) recommend Continental GP 4 Seasons. I've yet to puncture on them before they near the end of life. They are relatively easy to fit and remove, and they get better traction in wet and even frosty condtions than anything else I've tried. I use use them in 700 X 28, but I've also used them in 700 X 25.

I'm sure a few people will come along now and say that they're too expensive, but I'd rather pay my money than change an inner tube in cold, dark rain.

Oh, and they roll nicely, too.

Re: My puncture phobia

1 February 2016 - 10:04pm
Terrytrek wrote:NUKe wrote:I have good results with Gatorskin hardshells (If they come in the size you want) Nil punctures in 7k miles on 25mm
Sorry again! My latest puncture was with a Gatorskin! Rear wheel again. Grrrrr!

I won't use Gatorskins on some wheels I have because they are far too tight a fit on the rims. There is a pretty fair chance of pinching the tube on the way in or the way out. Like many other tyres the rubber seems soft and prone to cutting up when the tyres are very new. Once they are a few months old the rubber seems to harden a little and then they seem to cut less easily.

If anyone is having multiple punctures in a few tens of miles then I'd suggest that the tyres they are using are not good enough for the conditions. This time of year there is a lot of crud on the roads and using winter tyres makes a lot of sense.

It is a good idea to get into the habit of checking the tyres for flints etc on a regular basis, and for anyone using a tyre with shallow tread, I'll put in a good word for tyre savers; they stop a lot of flinty deflations.

If fixing punctures at home is more bearable, but by the roadside is a nightmare, carrying sealant of some kind can at least postpone the fix until you get home.

cheers

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

1 February 2016 - 9:55pm
Attempted murder. No other way to describe it.

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

1 February 2016 - 9:21pm
kwackers wrote:I think time and time again we see that the police are genuinely a waste of space. If they can't prosecute that then there's seriously no hope.
They may as well just have a ticker tape outside police stations with crime numbers on. You can just rip them off as you need them. Save the country a fortune.

They should at least have the decency to give you the drivers address so that you can provide 'alternative' justice...

We DID have the driver's address but as we were pretty convinced he was CID it seemed likely that any 'alternative' justice would not have been equally ignored by the Police.

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

1 February 2016 - 9:13pm
That's truly shocking. It occurred almost outside my office (I work in the 3 storey building with the grey roof, next to the BBC building.) London Road Island is truly awful for cyclists, it is busy all day long and worse in rush hour. However, there's really no excuse for that driving.

Re: My puncture phobia

1 February 2016 - 8:53pm
So far as getting tyres on the rim is concerned have you seen 531Colin's tutorial:
You may wish to consider a VAR tyre lever or if you don't mind carrying something a bit more workshop a Koolstop tyre mate. Both are useful for getting stubborn tyres on.

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

1 February 2016 - 8:52pm
I think time and time again we see that the police are genuinely a waste of space. If they can't prosecute that then there's seriously no hope.
They may as well just have a ticker tape outside police stations with crime numbers on. You can just rip them off as you need them. Save the country a fortune.

They should at least have the decency to give you the drivers address so that you can provide 'alternative' justice...

Re: Slow riders?

1 February 2016 - 8:47pm
There is a reason why Grimpeur is an anagram of Grumpier .

Re: My puncture phobia

1 February 2016 - 8:43pm
Terrytrek wrote:After a lifetime of cycling, I've developed puncture phobia. What I mean is that every time I go out I fear I'll get another b----y flat, after a run of them. Problem is, I've been having difficulty getting tyres on and off the rim - being an old git doesn't help. So I worry - if I get a flat, will I be able to change the tube? And as we all know, a flat is nearly always in the rear wheel (more difficult to change) and when it's peeing down. This puncture phobia is spoiling my cycling and as a near-10,000-mile a year man, I don't like that. I've fitted new tyres - again - and am trying slime tubes. I'll try anything! Solid Tannus tyres anyone?
Do you use tyre levers? I have a set of metal ones and find I can get any tyre on or off (even a Schwalbe marathon on a 16inch Brompton wheel). Need a bit of practice and you probably can't use them on carbon rims.

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