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Re: ICE!!!

8 December 2014 - 10:12pm
Caught me out this morning, didn't even feel cold enough and bang down on the tarmac with several cuts and bruises. Annoyed with myself as I have a perfectly good, if slower, commuting route all on gritted roads

Re: Enjoyable Audax

8 December 2014 - 9:41pm
TrevA wrote:Sure you might be able to take a short cut here and there, but what's the point? You are only cheating yourself.
Let's be absolutely clear, going off route is not cheating.
The objective is to cover X distance in Y time frame. In order to verify you have done so you need to have passed through the set controls, how you ride between them is up to you, it will not be possible to ride between them and not have ridden the nominal distance. That is not cheating, it's the regulations
http://www.aukweb.net/_resources/files/ ... -apps3.pdf

Of course the organiser has usually done a great job in designing the route, and for that reason the majority of riders follow it the majority of the time. In the dozens I've done I've deliberately* gone off route maybe 4 times, to use a bike shop, visit a friend, use a better cafe than the control, and avoid icy lanes, all completed within the rules of AUK and I'd resent any implication that they were in any way cheating.

* I've been accidentally off route more often, if I had to have ridden the complete route it would then have been necessary to retrace my steps to get back on it, which is I believe the requirement under some national bodies.

Re: ICE!!!

8 December 2014 - 9:06pm
Cold this morning and some of the country lanes had that film of frost on where they had not been gritted along with the farmer who has cut the hedges and left all the debris in the road .
So glad im on the subway disc.

Re: Acceptable overtake?

8 December 2014 - 6:24pm
I agree that road positioning etc helps, but at the end of the day, it shouldn't be the job of the cyclist to have to control what everyone else is doing. It's a bit like the headphones whilst cycling argument, it shouldn't be a problem as whatever is coming up behind should be being driven safely. So these problems really need tackling from the other end, ie. the drivers.

Re: Enjoyable Audax

8 December 2014 - 6:05pm
TrevA, I'm a bit slower than you. The 115km that I rode (72 miles) took me 7 hours (5 hrs 45 cycling time). Still went a bit faster than I thought, despite running out of energy and having to crawl up some of the slopes. Can't really call them hills. I reckon with proper feeding I could have done it 30 minutes quicker. One to improve on next time! Thanks for all the comments and tips

Re: Acceptable overtake?

8 December 2014 - 5:01pm
ian s wrote:As to how anyone stops it happening, I really don't know, because there seems to be an inexhaustible supply of idiot drivers.

I think the answer is to get a copy of Cyclecraft, read it and follow the advice. In my experience there is a big difference in riding styles between those who have lots of problems and those like myself that have them rarely and most of it is down to confidence, assertion and controlling the traffic with road positioning.

Re: ICE!!!

8 December 2014 - 4:42pm
the main issue being that if I had to stop then putting a foot down was hazardous.

Oh yes....the old tyres are so good you forget that it's icy and then do the splitz when you stop....I have that T shirt!

Re: ICE!!!

8 December 2014 - 3:42pm
kwackers wrote:You can all stop panicking, I fitted my winter tyres yesterday so as per last year the chances of ice is now zero until the day after I take them back off.

Gales, severe at times, are likely to affect North Wales, Northern England, Scotland and Northern Ireland from Tuesday night, during Wednesday and at first on Thursday with a risk of storm force winds for parts of Western and Northern Scotland. The strongest winds will slowly ease on Thursday morning. Waves will be unusually high, bringing the risk of localised flooding of roads and causeways, particularly in western and northern Scotland and northern coasts of Northern Ireland. Frequent wintry showers will also bring an additional hazard, mainly over higher ground. The public should be aware of the potential for disruption to travel and perhaps also power supplies.

Do you have an umbrella and a wind proof jacket close at hand?

Re: Acceptable overtake?

8 December 2014 - 3:40pm
This post has amazed me. I reckon I see dodgy overtaking manoeuvres more days that I am out on the bike than I don't, many vastly worse than the shown on the video. This is not a recent problem either, though it has become more frequent now. As to how anyone stops it happening, I really don't know, because there seems to be an inexhaustible supply of idiot drivers.

Re: Driving test

8 December 2014 - 3:12pm
I plead guilty to having added a (cycling-related, of course) suggestion of my own, in the comments section. Sadly, it attracted the attention of a troll. Ah well, you can't have everything...

Re: ICE!!!

8 December 2014 - 2:30pm
You can all stop panicking, I fitted my winter tyres yesterday so as per last year the chances of ice is now zero until the day after I take them back off.

Re: ICE!!!

8 December 2014 - 2:23pm
I have a 5.6 mile each way commute, with a couple of steep hills, to my job as a nurse based at the main hospital in Truro and I have no car available, so when there is ice about I take my Carrera Subway with studded tyres. Going on the experiences of riding that route in the winters of 2009/10 and 2010/11, the biggest problem is descending a steep hill, where it is hard to control the bike and stop it running/sliding away from you.

For the first winter I just had Schwalbe Land Cruisers and had to get off and walk at times to both climb and descend the hills. It was even hard to keep upright when walking and my main plan if things did seem unrecoverable going down hill was to try to lay the bike down and slide on my bum, but thankfully I managed to avoid this. For the second winter I put self tappers through the knobbles on the Land Cruisers and got masses more grip, which saw me able to ride up hill and down on shiny black ice, the main issue being that if I had to stop then putting a foot down was hazardous.

On frosty mornings in early 2011, after the last reserves of road grit were long gone from the Cornwall Council depots, I encountered a Mini abandoned in a ditch at the bottom of a hill and a small Peugeot on it's roof half way down the steepest hill. Having the combination of knobbly MTB tread and studs is really handy as to get past a bus that had jammed sideways across the road half way up the less steep hill I had to ride up the verge through several inches of snow and lumpy ice. However with the homemade studded tyres eventually the screw heads wore through the layers of duct tape to the inner tubes and I got a flat just at the end of the icy period, hence when I saw some on offer I bought Schwalbe Snow Studs, instead of Marathon Winters, though these have not been used in anger yet.

Re: Driving test

8 December 2014 - 2:01pm
Fantastic

Re: Enjoyable Audax

8 December 2014 - 1:14pm
'm another regular audaxer who mainky sticks to 100's with the occasional 160 or 200 thrown in. Audax for me is the chance to ride on some different roads, on a route provided by someone who is familiar with the area and knows the best roads to ride on. I do like to ride in a group, but if i find it's too fast I'll drop off and if it's too slow I'll press on ahead. You can end up riding in 3 or 4 different groups over the course of a 100k.

Sure you might be able to take a short cut here and there, but what's the point? You are only cheating yourself.
+1

Re: Enjoyable Audax

8 December 2014 - 12:25pm
I'm another regular audaxer who mainky sticks to 100's with the occasional 160 or 200 thrown in. Audax for me is the chance to ride on some different roads, on a route provided by someone who is familiar with the area and knows the best roads to ride on. I do like to ride in a group, but if i find it's too fast I'll drop off and if it's too slow I'll press on ahead. You can end up riding in 3 or 4 different groups over the course of a 100k.

Sure you might be able to take a short cut here and there, but what's the point? You are only cheating yourself. I've never felt under time pressure and can usually manage to get round a 100k well within the time, including 2 cafe stops, unless it's really hilly. My fastest 100k is about 4h 20 and my slowest is 6h 15.

My best 200 is 10h 20 but i was completely shattered afterwards.

Re: Enjoyable Audax

8 December 2014 - 12:07pm
Tail End Charlie wrote: That said, I don't do the extra long rides, hilly 100 or 200s are my preference, in fact there seems a belief that all Audaxers aspire to PBP, they don't, it's not obligatory.

Ditto. I'm sure I'm not alone in being unable to contemplate the sleep deprivation associated with the long distances, which does require a special aptitude, irrelevant to cycling ability, to cope with. I know those who manage with nothing more than the legendary bus-shelter catnaps make light of it - but they would do, since they clearly have that aptitude. For those who don't, it's an uncrossable barrier. For that reason 300 was my absolute limit, and mostly I rode 200s or 100s from which there are, as you say, rewards enough.

Re: Enjoyable Audax

8 December 2014 - 11:38am
I've never done one but surely much of the fun comes from following a route through a part of the country which is new to you chosen by a cyclist who knows the area. Sure, you could cut out these twisty lanes and that big hill and ride down that nice flat dual carriageway but wouldn't you be missing out on something? The fun of finding out what the organiser has planned for you. I bet some get right mischievous! The fun of interacting with others doing the same ride. If it comes down to just getting your head down and riding a distance you could do that on a flippin turbo trainer

Re: Enjoyable Audax

8 December 2014 - 11:18am
Thanks PH.
I reckon there would have been loads of shortcuts on Leg Two and Leg Three.
Had I known the route wasn't compulsory, I'd have cut out lots of it. Leg One.pngLeg Two.pngLeg Three.png

Re: Enjoyable Audax

8 December 2014 - 10:52am
Mick F wrote:I did my first Audax last May.
I sussed this out as soon as I got the download, and spent ages re-creating the proper route manually on BikeHike with due regard to the written instructions. Consequently, I followed the exact route, but some folk took "short cuts". I'm sure they didn't do it deliberately, but maybe because their Garmins had made their own minds up.

There are no shortcuts, the route is recommended but not compulsory. Going to all the controls within the timescale is all that's required to complete the event. Try it and see, it shouldn't be possible to ride any route between them less than the nominal distance, in this case 150km.
People make of Audax what they want, but for many it's about the challenge, I can't imagine that this route challenged you much, so you may well have missed the point.

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