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Re: Horses: modern ones selected from what stock?

27 July 2015 - 12:55pm
Careful now, someone will be accusing you of "victim blaming"! Seriously, though, I think most non-sporting horses are bred at least partly for temperament.

Re: Is the entire field of view blocked for an HGV?

27 July 2015 - 12:50pm
Bicycler wrote:hondated wrote:As for the HGV driver ok he had made a bad mistake and thankfully only the bike was damaged but he did seem to me to be a decent fella.
The problem is that most of the people killed on the roads are killed unintentionally, often by people who are no doubt otherwise decent people. These are mostly crimes of negligence and incompetence, not malice. Being nice and sorry cannot be an excuse.
https://beyondthekerb.wordpress.com/201 ... od-people/
That's a fair point Bicycler.

Horses: modern ones selected from what stock?

27 July 2015 - 12:50pm
In the (distant) past surely working horses shared busy city roads with wheeled things (carriages etc) pedestrians, bicycles etc. So surely these should have been bred to be less 'skittish'/nervous than some current 'pet' horses seen on roads:

so why have 'pet' horses not been bred from less skittish/nervous i.e. more calm stock? Surely it would be better for the horse itself?

NB I always think that horses being towed in horse boxes must be thinking 'I should be towing not towed: this is just wrong pffffft'

Re: Is the entire field of view blocked for an HGV?

27 July 2015 - 12:49pm
LollyKat wrote:It's difficult to see into the cab because of the reflections, but if you look at 6-7 secs you can see the driver's silhouette. He could and should have looked into the side road to check if it was clear. As it was he got his line totally wrong and came round the corner too fast - if you are going to drive on the wrong side of the road at least do it slowly enough for any 'obstacles' to get out of the way! I presume motorcycles don't have horns.
Good point about totally wrong line and anyone who has driven what is called a " six wheeler " by those in the know is that unlike an " eight wheeler " tends to push you straight on when negotiating a corner.

For information 6 & 8 wheelers are determined by each set of wheels on a axle either side.

Re: Loose stones on the road

27 July 2015 - 11:25am
Its actually your District Council that is responsible for clearing road debris NOT the County Council. If they ignore your warning that gravel is a hazard and a cyclist is injured as a result they are responsible and will have to pay up for damages.


Re: Loose stones on the road

27 July 2015 - 10:33am
Just to show how much they care about cyclists, the local authority here gritted the descent from one of our cols just a couple of days before a brevet montagnard. The event was officially declared to the Préfecture two months earlier, and they're supposed to notify the organisers of projected roadworks. Did they? Did they hell. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd timed the roadworks so as to cause the most trouble possible.

Re: Hi Viz plod gets space

27 July 2015 - 10:31am
[XAP]Bob wrote:No impersonation there...
I think one of the impersonation offences is open to be argued. The offence:
Any person who, not being a constable, wears any article of police uniform in circumstances where it gives him an appearance so nearly resembling that of a member of a police force as to be calculated to deceive shall be guilty of an offence
“article of police uniform” means any article of uniform or any distinctive badge or mark or document of identification usually issued to members of police forces or special constables, or anything having the appearance of such an article, badge, mark or document,
Given that the purpose of this clothing is to resemble police clothing so as to mislead passing travellers into thinking that you are a police officer, I would not wish to guarantee that a genuine police officer will never take the view that this falls within the scope of the offence.

Personally I wouldn't be happy wearing such a thing but I know that a decent number of people do.

Re: Is the entire field of view blocked for an HGV?

27 July 2015 - 10:25am
A truck driver walked into me this morning. He climbed out of the cab of his truck at the side of the road and walked backwards across the road and into me as I was riding past. This in spite of me wearing a bright yellow rain top and shouting at him as he went.

He seemed a bit embarrassed but I got the feeling that he saw it as my fault for being there rather than him walking backwards across the road. (I guess the 'proper manoeuvre' would have been for me to ride over the top of him and chuck the bits into the verge).

Re: Hi Viz plod gets space

27 July 2015 - 9:59am
I also use lights ( sometimes 3 flashing at different times )and i also have a lollipop which i have extended a bit but nothing has worked as well as this.
It must be that brief doubt in the drivers minds about "is it or isn't it a copper".

The journeys i take are chosen for the least time on the roads but sometimes it's unavoidable. This journey with the "copper tabard" was in broad daylight but as it was so grey and wet the other day i thought it was worth vizzing up.
The journey was only 15 mile ( half of which is on road ) . Normally i'd have 1 or 2 near death experiences within this distance but this is the first time i made it that distance with nothing, in fact i was quite happy with their passing distance.

i can only put it down to the "Plod factor".

Like i said while my brother was walking down the high street people would do a double take so if they would be in a car they wouldn't have the time to scrutinize the tabard. they'd just be careful when passing just in case.

Re: Wibbly Wobbly

27 July 2015 - 9:42am
I had a good idea for close overtakes.

Mount a proximity sensor linked to a can of spray paint (florescent green would be nice) so that any cyclist or vehicle coming too close would get a nice go-fast stripe.

However, the inevitability of accidentally decorating other things and people makes it impractical.

Re: Pedestrians' view of bells ?

27 July 2015 - 9:39am
Re the brake lever clack, I find unclipping a foot (which I do when approaching people and dogs anyway on a shared path) has the same effect. People think 'what's that?' and look round to see, and it's not loud enough to startle anything.

As for horses, this is a helpful leaflet with advice for bother riders and cyclists:

http://www.bhs.org.uk/~/media/BHS/Files ... aflet.ashx

It does make the point that if a rider doesn't wave a thank you, it may be because they need both hands on the reins. It's generally only cowboys that ride one-handed and they don't need such precise steering out on the ranges.
The convention with riders who can't take a hand off the rein is to say thank you out loud or nod their head downwards. If they don't, I apologise for them, but in all groups of people you get rude persons....

Re: Is the entire field of view blocked for an HGV?

27 July 2015 - 9:30am
[XAP]Bob wrote:... Surely cameras would be a better technical solution. The problem is that you can't see, how does shouting resolve that problem?
It is astonishing, particularly as the technology is so available, reliable and cheap these days. I suspect it is the shareholder greed and the quest for ever higher profits that is stopping adoption of such devices. Why spend money on something you can get away without and you can just blame the victim for being in your blind spot.


Re: Speed awareness courses (instructors' knowledge)

27 July 2015 - 9:27am
I wouldn't worry too much about an instructor not knowing when advice about cyclists had changed so long as they know and say what it is now.

Re: Loose stones on the road

27 July 2015 - 9:02am
Part of yesterday's charity ride: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.15139 ... 312!8i6656

Re: Hi Viz plod gets space

27 July 2015 - 8:25am
I have a red LED light on the right-hand end of my bars which helps to get more space from motorists. Works best in the dark (obviously) but can still be seen on all but the brightest of days.

Re: Loose stones on the road

27 July 2015 - 12:31am
I made a complaint to the local highways whom cleared the footpaths and swept all the loose debris/chippings right into the gap between the path crossing and the pedestrian refuge. They denied there was a problem so I made the complaint official at county level, they still didn't sweep it up.
Then there's the build up of the chippings from the chip n tar relain roads....oh the list is endless, it' proper horrible out there

Re: Is the entire field of view blocked for an HGV?

27 July 2015 - 12:27am
Flinders wrote:It's like having your eyes closed and firing a gun and then saying it wasn't your fault you shot someone because you 'didn't see them'.
Known as 'the Pistorius Defence'.

Re: Newbie to Road bikes

26 July 2015 - 10:39pm
MikeF wrote:Do you mean you've been MTBing for 10 years and not ridden on a road? Surely not.
Yes on an mtb to get to trails etc 10-15 miles on road, but not 100 mile rides on a road bike.

Re: Loose stones on the road

26 July 2015 - 10:12pm
Aye. One of my regular rides has such stones and debris right on a downhill bend and it's given me a fright on a couple of occasions.

Re: Hi Viz plod gets space

26 July 2015 - 10:07pm
mjr wrote:It didn't work for me when I tried a random test. The only things that got me significantly more room were eyeballing overtakers and hanging things off the right side of the rear rack. I should retry with a rear facing camera and see if that helps but I don't ride on so many nasty roads now I live in Norfolk.

When riding with a single pannier I always put it on the right side, nearest the traffic, to give the illusion of extra width. I don't know if it makes a difference, but I don't get many worryingly close overtakes.


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