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Re: Pulled Over By The Police

13 September 2014 - 9:26pm
You were lucky not to get a £30 fine : viewtopic.php?f=41&t=88351

Advice from the police to wear a helmet is covered here: viewtopic.php?f=41&t=76886 & viewtopic.php?f=41&t=81622

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

13 September 2014 - 9:25pm
It seems to me, the only thing you were a danger to, was their quotas. Or to be more accurate, there was a danger to their quotas in not stopping you...

See also this thread on the same topic.

Re: Pulled Over By The Police

13 September 2014 - 9:22pm
Hi,
Nearly 40 years ago I was cycling home at dusk, I probably should of had lights but because I had on a Bright orange rainsuit down to my feet I thought I was seeable.

A jam sandwich came along side and told me to get of and walk, which I did.
200 yards down the road I considered getting back on, I did not but as I passed a junction I spyed the couple of jam sandwich ocupants in the dark, I passed they drove off.

It appears it runs in the family as your guys are their offspring

The emphasis appears to be by the media to make cyclist more safe they must be trained.

No amount of training will keep you safe from drivers today.

Will be interesting to see if you cycled on pavement and round the corner you were stopped by bobby on the beat and wanted to fine you
What defence would you offer...............

SPOILERS !!!!!!!!!! Re: Off the see The Tour .....

13 September 2014 - 9:11pm
Hi,
What a shambles.
Dowset is in yellow.
Kwiatkoski is in the Wiggo group ahead of Dowset.
So Dowset Yellow
Kwiatkoski 34 seconds down
Wiggo is 1 m 3 secs down from Dowset.

Race finishes Vermot wins stage, and comentators say that Kwiatkoski will be in yellow and Wiggo is 30 secs down, Dowset finishes well down is a seperate group.
Then the GC board comes up with wiggo 49 seconds down from yellow, dowset is just 12 seconds back from wiggo.
Kwiatkoski is 19 seconds off YELLOW

Van Daarle is in yellow

WHO

He was in the leading group and picked up bonuses by coming in third but amounted bonuses earlier in the stage (IIRC)

There were long pauses in the comentry not the usual fast talking rundown of the top GC riders..........long pauses................
Ned and Hales tried to recover the embarissment.....ha ha ha............

Some poor B%^%^$ head buted the railing on the final bend which was in full view but was not mentioned at all, he limped home one foot off the pedal.

In the Highlights all is corrected by the final comentry finishes with Ned and Hayles just joking around..............

If they did not have the info then all they had to do is admit it
If they were caught napping just say so.

But no never admit any oversights or balls ups...........

Pulled Over By The Police

13 September 2014 - 9:07pm
Just after nine so had a front light, rear light and flashing lights on my rucksack. They told me that with oncoming traffic headlights I was a danger. They asked why I wasn't wearing a hi-viz vest and a helmet. Told them I have cycled for some 40+ years without either and wasnt going to start now. They told me to get off the road and cycle on the pavement as I was a danger to other road users.
I did as they instructed. Just as well as they had pulled into a side street a couple of hundred yards ahead to spy on me. Must have been a slow night for them. So helmets and hi-viz are not legal requirements. Can the police force you wear them if they deem you are a danger.

Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

13 September 2014 - 7:43pm
Interesting perspective from some posters, I commented earlier in the thread that it could be seen as both parties contributing to the 'accident' Personally I've got to agree that the excessive speed was really the main problem. If the vid is posted to 'educate' then surely you would expect a wide range of responses, and know that you might not like them all, niceties probably wouldn't come into it. Watching the vid, I would have thought, riding a bike, approaching a junction/built up area, that you would have been slowing down, irrespective of any speed limit. Whatever you are riding/driving, surely anticipation is one of the most important skills you have to exercise.

Re: Off the see The Tour .....

13 September 2014 - 6:41pm
Hi,
Mick F wrote:NATURAL ANKLING wrote:But if they came throgh Gunnislake I am sure you would be there....make a good stage climbing up from the river Oh yes of course!
Good hill for anyone to climb, but having watched them fly up Pork Hill onto Dartmoor a few years ago, Gunny Hill would be a flyer too.

Anyone who can ride a 110mile stage in four hours, won't be put off by one of the worst climbs in Cornwall.
Gunny hill.......how long and what gradient both sides
You should of seen them up Haytor they were struggling.
I driven Gunny Hill several times and its long enough.
Got to remember that in the bunch they are sheltered, the pace they set is like Tony Martin on the flat for 100 miles, Vuelta last year amazing

Re: Biker's death filmed - horrific.

13 September 2014 - 5:48pm
What's a suitable length of time? It's not like this happened last week. As for a suitable time to judge the behaviour of those who die on the road, how about
when a video showing their fatal collision is released for the purpose of educating people about the danger of such behaviour?

It would be a mistake to gain from the video the impression that those who speed are only a danger to themselves. Let us not forget that the angel who gets killed speeding is no different from the devil who kills others speeding. You cannot risk one without the other. The deceased angels and the imprisoned devils are only different in media portrayal. In reality they are just people who have been selfish and stupid by speeding. Maybe widespread condemnation of someone for being so reckless might make it clear to other people who behave in a similar fashion that their behaviour is selfish and reckless and unacceptable in the eyes of society. I'd happily sacrifice social niceties in the hope of fewer casualties.

Re: Off the see The Tour .....

13 September 2014 - 5:14pm
barrym wrote:
What impressed me most was the police motorcyclists. They were having a ball!

Cheers
Barryspot on Barry my very thoughts as I watched the Tour come through Eastbourne earlier.

Re: First Audax - Thoroughly enjoyable!

13 September 2014 - 4:01pm
Well done!

Hope your route sheet / map solution worked OK. I recommend buying the cheap AA road atlases (no more than £2 from a petrol station, Aldi etc.), removing the staples and just folding the page(s) you need in a plastic gripseal bag, just the right size to fit in your jersey pocket.

I work from the route sheet and highlight the route, also checking it out on Google Maps or similar before the ride (look at the Street View of key junctions). Then I find that I don't need to refer to the route sheet or map too often.

As route sheets often come in km, I have two identical cycle computers, one set to km and one to miles (they are also both calibrated for both my bikes).

Road atlases are less useful if you're passing through a built-up area -- here, follow your route sheet, do your research, or carry a full downloadable street map like MapDroyd or OSMAnd on your phone.

Re: First Audax - Thoroughly enjoyable!

13 September 2014 - 3:05pm
Completed my first Brevet Populaire 50km earlier today. Thoroughly enjoyed the ride on a lovely route with friendly fellow cyclists, good views and a super cafe with CAKE Went off-route a couple of times but I had nothing but encouragement from fellow entrants and rode the 2nd half of the ride with company.

Looking forward to a longer route next time. Thanks very much for the tips from people on here, very helpful they were

Andrew

Re: Off the see The Tour .....

13 September 2014 - 2:50pm
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:But if they came throgh Gunnislake I am sure you would be there....make a good stage climbing up from the river Oh yes of course!
Good hill for anyone to climb, but having watched them fly up Pork Hill onto Dartmoor a few years ago, Gunny Hill would be a flyer too.

Anyone who can ride a 110mile stage in four hours, won't be put off by one of the worst climbs in Cornwall.

Re: Hit and Run - Cyclist Wanted !

13 September 2014 - 2:27pm
There's something very dodgy about that cyclist

To object to any sensible action so vehemently and then walk off leaving the bike says quite a lot. Innocent until proven guilty but certain something suspicious

Re: Off the see The Tour .....

13 September 2014 - 1:16pm
Hi,
theDaveB wrote:I watched it go by (went past my housing estate) and thought it was over quickly but amazing to watch. I think there was more motorbikes than cyclists though.

Dave
M/cyles.....dont start.....I am a motorcyclist and have competed in road trials - end to end in one day (v-easy really)
BUT I dont like their inability to drive safely Their attitude, the crass noise of blareing horns etc, etc,

They have a lot to answer for, pedestrians killed on TOUR de.........cyclist put in hostpital.... the list goes on, their skill and judgement is very poor I.M.O.

We need them but they are too much too close and dont fit with the sport.

Rant over.

Re: Off the see The Tour .....

13 September 2014 - 11:29am
I watched it go by (went past my housing estate) and thought it was over quickly but amazing to watch. I think there was more motorbikes than cyclists though.

Dave

Re: Off the see The Tour .....

13 September 2014 - 10:23am
Hi,
Mick F wrote:Yes, I wasn't saying it wasn't enjoyable.
Having watched the tour four times in past years, I have ticked it off my To Do list and I wouldn't bother again.
Rumor has it they wont come to devon next year
But if they came throgh Gunnislake I am sure you would be there....make a good stage climbing up from the river
I only went because it was close to my stomping ground, any further and I would pass.

Re: Off the see The Tour .....

13 September 2014 - 10:13am
Yes, likewise. Not sure I'll go again unless it's very convenient. BTDT

Re: Off the see The Tour .....

13 September 2014 - 9:49am
Yes, I wasn't saying it wasn't enjoyable.
Having watched the tour four times in past years, I have ticked it off my To Do list and I wouldn't bother again.

Re: Off the see The Tour .....

13 September 2014 - 9:40am
I went yesterday to see them climb Chinnor Hill. I agree that they were past in a flash - even on a steep hill - but it was an interesting and enjoyable experience, which adds to my enjoyment of watching this and the other Tours on the telly.

Re: Off the see The Tour .....

13 September 2014 - 8:35am
Ditchling Beacon today from about 3pm onwards. We're thinking of standing at the bottom, where they have a sharp turn out of Underhill Lane - so no chance of a fast run-up to the climb .

The celebrated children's author and illustrator Raymond Briggs ('The Snowman') lives in Underhill Lane. I wonder if he'll be watching? But I don't think snow will figure in today's stage!

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