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Re: Shock finding: cycling causes weight loss

24 August 2014 - 11:11pm
If I wasnt dieting I wouldnt be counting anything. After 8 months you are well aware of whats what. I havent actually counted anything for weeks until today. Dont like the sound of your diet Garry, you are welcome to it. Thought you all lived on spuds?

Al

Grooving tonite… War on Drugs, Imagine Dragons and Alcest

Re: When its OK to drop a cycling buddy

24 August 2014 - 11:09pm
gaz wrote:Ide Hill trophy.
???

Bwlch y Groes

24 August 2014 - 11:08pm
Crikey - that's a hill and a half! (from the south)

GREAT fun going down the north side though...


(97 miles today, can't bring myself to go out for another 3 ;()

Re: Four 4x4's on a forty mile ride

24 August 2014 - 11:01pm
To make it clear I mean some ladies, and I agree about many young women, they seem scared to be over the wrong side and will often cut in sharply causing you to brake hard. Most ladies are very careful and courteous. Two months ago I got ditched by a blond in a 4wd. First time I have ever had such a problem. Drove off before I got her number.

Al

Re: Four 4x4's on a forty mile ride

24 August 2014 - 10:42pm
Or couldn't you use the horse? "Jingle bells, jingle bells...."

Re: Four 4x4's on a forty mile ride

24 August 2014 - 10:24pm
lisap wrote:I live in a very hilly place, my 4x4 is covered in mud from being on the farm every day AND when it snows I wouldn't get off my property without it.



You could try walking . I'm being slightly facetious but the description of a farm or village being cut off is now used in the press simply when motor vehicles can't get through. It used to mean when people on foot couldn't get through - now that's what I call being really cut off .

Re: Four 4x4's on a forty mile ride

24 August 2014 - 10:14pm
al_yrpal wrote:The worst drivers are undoubtably the ladies.
I was afraid to state the same but now someone else has...........
For some years I though the worst offenders for close overtakes were young ladies, often in small cars. I wondered why that should be the case. I sort of came to the conclusion that they were the group most likely never to have ridden a bike and hence treated it more as an inanimate object.
The reason why this was the case? I thought that because young women have become sadly more vunerable in society in general they were(sort of) understandably less likely to go out on a bike.
I do feel that with something of a renaissance of cycling in the last 5 years or so (more cyclists about generally) this is less the case than formally and perhaps as a group they are not so likely to put fear into me anymore.
Just IMHO

Re: Four 4x4's on a forty mile ride

24 August 2014 - 9:40pm
In the years I have been cycling, I think it is down to pot luck who is on the road when you are out on bike, a few weeks back me and missus had a Land Rover towing a Land Rover overtake us coming up to bend causing the car in the opposite direction kick up dust by pulling into and braking hard into the bank.

Only last week I shot off from missus to get home to have a cuppa ready for her, i had a car overtake me between two bends only to indicate at last minute to turn right followed by another car who thought the car in front was going to keep going, the driver braked and was in middle of road.

As for pecking order on road I think it is true with some people in there minds, its the same as most things some people think and care and some think and don't care.

Re: Shock finding: cycling causes weight loss

24 August 2014 - 9:19pm
Gearoidmuar wrote:I don't count the calories at all and eat as much as I want. That's me.
I'm lucky that I eat what I want when I want it, and it varies depending on how much exercise I've done.

Note the word "done".

I need to have done the exercise before I replace the calories expended, rather than eat the calories in the hope of doing exercise.

Re: Four 4x4's on a forty mile ride

24 August 2014 - 8:39pm
lisap wrote:........Am I excused

From what?

Re: Four 4x4's on a forty mile ride

24 August 2014 - 8:24pm
Oh dear, I own a horse, ride a bike, drive a 4x4 and I'm female.

There obviously no hope for me but in my defence I do not run cyclists off the road with my car, always pull over so other drivers can pass me on country lanes when on the bike and thank people when they slow down for me while I'm riding my young horse.

I live in a very hilly place, my 4x4 is covered in mud from being on the farm every day AND when it snows I wouldn't get off my property without it.

Am I excused

Re: When its OK to drop a cycling buddy

24 August 2014 - 8:23pm
When I used to do club rides abandoning a fellow clubmate on an Audax or TRT would earn the abandoner an automatic nomination for the Ide Hill trophy.

Re: Shock finding: cycling causes weight loss

24 August 2014 - 8:04pm
al_yrpal wrote:Garry, I get hungry at mealtimes which is normal I think. My wife and I enjoy our present diet which includes a bit of everything.

Yesterdays breakfast, Muesli, milk, frozen berries and banana, lunch a single cheese roll with watercress and a tomato. Evening meal, homemade low calorie soup, steak chips peas, fried onions and mushrooms, strawberries merangue and ice cream. Glass of red wine.

Todays breakfast, fried egg, 1 slice of bacon, tinned tomatoes, banana, orange juice, lunch, ham salad with watercress, onion, tomato, cucumber, radish, small beetroot cold baked beans, low calorie dressing, evening meal, low calorie homemade soup poached salmon fillets, new potatoes, carrots, runner beans, melon stawberries and ice cream, glass of white wine.
Throughout the day, coffee in the morning, tea afternoon and evening and a 35ml glass of laphroig with ice.

We did a 2 hour walk around the Reading Rock Festival site yesterday soaking up the atmosphere and I did a 12 mile ride this morning.

Todays calories 1475, exercise, 600. Nett calories 875.
I dont think anyone would be hungry on what we eat, but we do carefully control the quantity of everything. The steaks are lean sirlions 6 oz and 100 g low fat chips. We dont snack, but if we do fancy something there is massive fruit bowl filled with apples and pears from our trees.

We are still both steadily loosing weight despite several holidays, many restaurant meals and dinners out where we just eat whatever we fancy.

You dont need to give up anything at all to loose weight, just eat less and cut out the cr* * and you dont need to feel hungry all the time. Feeling hungry is a normal feeling, its called having an appetite! I am looking forward to that dinner..

All the best.

Al

I appear to eat a huge amount, but I think it amounts to about 2000 cals.
For breakfast I have a two egg omelet with a good lump of cheese and three slices of Lidl Peppered Salami, 50g of ground linseed with boiling water to make a porridge, 150cc of Lidl Milbona Greek yoghourt with 5g carbs worth of blueberries and usually 5g carbs worth of microwaved veg like half a cauli with butter etc.

For lunch I might have a sliced tomato with say a packet of smoked mackerel followed by more Yog plus berries.

For dinner, tonight had a huge amount of lamb pasanda with mushrooms with butter and all kinds of stuff, and more yog. I love yog.

Later on I'll have some cheese and whiskey.

Yesterday I did the cycle of a sprint triatholon. 12 miles eyeballs out. Knackered after that. We won (my daughter is a top athlete just getting into form having had a baby).

At the moment, I'm as unhungry (I like new words) as a python who's just eaten a particularly large elephant!

I don't count the calories at all and eat as much as I want. I count carb grammes that's all.

Re: When its OK to drop a cycling buddy

24 August 2014 - 7:44pm
It rather depends how important the validation of the Audax was to the rider.

If it was really important to "get" that particular Audax for some reason, like having put a lot of training into it or needing it for some series then it would be understood that the rider had to carry on.
If on the other hand you are regular riding partners who are on yet another Audax then it would be more natural to stay with a mate to give them company than to worry about yet another stamp on yet another Brevet card in the bottom of a cupboard somewhere.

Then there is a whole range of shades between those two scenarios.

I have both continued without somebody or hung around with them on occasions.

Shock finding: cycling causes weight loss

24 August 2014 - 7:39pm
Phil Fouracre wrote:Gosh! Who would have guessed it, exercise and diet help you lose weight, well there. Is that why all the 'car drivers' I 'interact!' With are fat?


To be honest a lot of people I see these days are overweight.

I also find that others put you down for being fit/slim. It probably due to them not liking their own body image. The only way they can make them feel better about themselves is to put others down.

I find this when work colleagues that are a bit overweight try to do some dieting, the fatter colleagues try to put them off dieting.


I do feel now that I am in the minority in society with the 'odd' body shape. ie. look fit and healthy.

Re: Four 4x4's on a forty mile ride

24 August 2014 - 7:17pm
Hi,
As 4X4's are more likely to be the ones bought for pleasure not work and everybody wants one
Then it goes that well off people will own one but have no use for the 4WD unless they pull horses.
Its just another addition to the stable of merc's bmw's etc.
But we all cant afford those fashionable ego boosting slow stopping easy rollover coffins.
So what does the usual *&%%$£ drive Any old car, I.M.O. the close passes and near mis's are just any old car / van / bus / hgv...........

When its OK to drop a cycling buddy

24 August 2014 - 7:06pm
I ran into an odd situation yesterday when doing the Mildenhall 300k Audax with a good cycling buddy.

Due to a lot of changes recently relating to bike position and saddle I ran into a bit of knee pain and bonked a bit around the 230k mark. I tried to get my cycling buddy to carry on without me as I knew his lights had died earlier in the day and my pace meant we would finish in the dark. However he was insistent in staying with me even though it was obvious that I'd hit a bad patch.

I really appreciated having someone to ride with, but I've ridden enough on my own to not be intimidated or worried by being on my own. I had my phone. Even though it was an Audax I was less than 40 miles from home. I have proven ability to ride the distance and to do it riding solo. I think it would have been perfectly OK for my buddy to have cycled on, after all I might have decided alternatively to stop for an hour at a cafe when he didn't, what would have happended then?

If I'd been a distance riding novice riding such a long distance for the first time then I can understand staying with the rider to provide encouragement to complete. However for a old lag like me its not necessary. But I do greatly appreciate the emotional difficulties of leaving someone behind in such a situation.

What would you do in such a situation?

I'd probably have ridden on but check every 30k or so my buddy was OK (if mobiles were available). If I knew about the knee problem then I'd also have offered to drive back along the route (or to his final stopping point) to pick him up and take him back to his car.

Re: Four 4x4's on a forty mile ride

24 August 2014 - 6:53pm
Beware confirmation bias OP

Re: Four 4x4's on a forty mile ride

24 August 2014 - 5:01pm
On a recent foray into france I played guess the nationality of cars approaching from behind. The best by far were the French who gave me loads of room, the worse were the Brits followed by the Dutch. I think the Dutch weren't used to seeing cars on the road given their excellent cycle network. It's a cultural thing, when driving in France I find most drivers to be less tolerant of others than British ones, but they have a much better approach to pedestrians and cyclists.

Re: Shock finding: cycling causes weight loss

24 August 2014 - 4:55pm
Garry, I get hungry at mealtimes which is normal I think. My wife and I enjoy our present diet which includes a bit of everything.

Yesterdays breakfast, Muesli, milk, frozen berries and banana, lunch a single cheese roll with watercress and a tomato. Evening meal, homemade low calorie soup, steak chips peas, fried onions and mushrooms, strawberries merangue and ice cream. Glass of red wine.

Todays breakfast, fried egg, 1 slice of bacon, tinned tomatoes, banana, orange juice, lunch, ham salad with watercress, onion, tomato, cucumber, radish, small beetroot cold baked beans, low calorie dressing, evening meal, low calorie homemade soup poached salmon fillets, new potatoes, carrots, runner beans, melon stawberries and ice cream, glass of white wine.
Throughout the day, coffee in the morning, tea afternoon and evening and a 35ml glass of laphroig with ice.

We did a 2 hour walk around the Reading Rock Festival site yesterday soaking up the atmosphere and I did a 12 mile ride this morning.

Todays calories 1475, exercise, 600. Nett calories 875.
I dont think anyone would be hungry on what we eat, but we do carefully control the quantity of everything. The steaks are lean sirlions 6 oz and 100 g low fat chips. We dont snack, but if we do fancy something there is massive fruit bowl filled with apples and pears from our trees.

We are still both steadily loosing weight despite several holidays, many restaurant meals and dinners out where we just eat whatever we fancy.

You dont need to give up anything at all to loose weight, just eat less and cut out the cr* * and you dont need to feel hungry all the time. Feeling hungry is a normal feeling, its called having an appetite! I am looking forward to that dinner..

All the best.

Al

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