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Re: Deliveroo

8 hours 21 min ago
Im sure when I glanced in through the door that the Hafords on Union Street it had more makes than their own. I saw Dropouts had left Stokes Croft, my immediate thought was that they'd gone bust due to the immense number of cycling shops in Bristol, over 60 I thought I read somewhere. I cant think who BlackBeard cycles are but I hope to get by on the current choise.

Re: The Poplar High St collision

14 hours 13 min ago
Hi mjr,

I don't mean that motorists need to understand the scheme, but I meant that a motorist [making such a right-turn in heavy traffic as in the video] would not see the cycle lane/blue strip on the far side of the carriageway until after they had started their manoeuvre and therefore the scheme cannot be safe without the motorist already having that knowledge of the road layout. That's the way it looks to me in the video/google earth but I dare say the reality could be different.

mjr wrote:That's why continuing the cycle track across the junction with appropriate hard measures like corner posts is preferable to dumping cyclists back onto the road for short stretches IMO. +1 - I agree wholeheartedly.

cheap cycling jackets for cold dry weather

14 hours 57 min ago
I got my ex army softie jacket from Ebay a week ago for £25 in excellent condition, came in its own stuff bag and packs quite small for putting in a saddle bag or pannier. Seems like an ideal cold but dry weather jacket for cycling. is very light, has long arms and cut to the back side and very loose fitting, zips right up to the neck & in no way constrains any movement. Seems quite wind proof also. Any one else here uses these? I didnt know of them until some one posted about them in the camping forum. Best jacket I have bought for a long time

Re: Deliveroo

15 hours 6 min ago
coffeedrinkerUK wrote:I see Halfords (its no good being snooty ) have opened a super duper bike shop in Union Street and there's a quite flashy cycling shop right in the centre of Broadmead. I cant think of any more but it wouldn't surprise me if there's a "fixie" shop somewhere there. O I think the Halfords allow test rides from that shop.

Cycle Republic are Halfords bike only stores. There's BlackBeard Cycles at the end of All Saint's Street and I'm pretty sure I've seen another bike shop in Broadmead area but can't remember where. The local Fixie shop was Bristol Dropouts which was on Stokes Croft a few doors up from TDP cycles but they've moved up to Church Road recently.

Some pics of Old Broadmead can be found here https://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebo ... /lightbox/

Re: Brutal hit & run - Nottingham

9 February 2016 - 10:26pm
tyreon wrote:What's "Joint Enterprise Rules"? When do they apply? When not? Are these the rules wherein at a murder scene when more than one person is in attendance and no murderer identified,all persons can and are charged with murder?...As in,5 youths going down for a stabbing wherein no one will say who killed X? Or police cannot identify said perpetrator?

Applicable in this case?

Doesn't appear to be.

Criminal law generally only holds offenders liable for their own actions but, under the doctrine of joint enterprise, a person may be found guilty for another person's crime. Simple association or accidental presence during a crime is insufficient for a charge under joint enterprise. A suspect must knowingly assist or encourage the crime and agree to act together with the primary offender for a common purpose.

http://www.kaimtodner.com/law/what_is_joint_enterprise/

Re: 2016 ride plans

9 February 2016 - 4:42pm
At some point I'll be cycling down to Cornwall from Cambridge, haven't got any further than deciding to do it so haven't worked out if it's possible to go campsite-campsite or if I should just get down there asap and spend some time cycling around when I get there.
Mrs T read the bit in Cycle about the NorthCoast 500 so I might not be able to escape that one

Re: Deliveroo

9 February 2016 - 2:16pm
I see Halfords (its no good being snooty ) have opened a super duper bike shop in Union Street and there's a quite flashy cycling shop right in the centre of Broadmead. I cant think of any more but it wouldn't surprise me if there's a "fixie" shop somewhere there. O I think the Halfords allow test rides from that shop.

Re: Slow riders?

9 February 2016 - 12:27pm
There's a big difference to putting in maximum effort and only going 10mph, and only going 10mph when maximum effort would be more like 20mph.

And yes, one of the joys of cycling is nice weather and being able to cover long distances at efforts well within your maximum.

Re: Too many vehicles!!!

9 February 2016 - 11:43am
pwa wrote:reohn2 wrote:jollytiddlywink wrote:My suggestion for any road too narrow for a car and a bicycle to pass each other is to ban cars from it. Cycling both ways and people who want to motor can find a different route!

That makes perfect sense to me.
If two cars can't pass each other comfortably then it should be 'unsuitable for motors' or an 'access only' road with a 20mph limit.
In a sane a sensible society that would be the norm,however this is the UK

That would condemn large areas of Wales to a car ban. That might be a tad controversial. Better, perhaps, to try to get along with other road users. I've never got into an argument on country roads. I've inched up the narrowest, steepest part of the Gospel Pass climb out of Hay with a couple of cars waiting to get past, and they have hung back patiently for the minute or so it took to get to a wider bit. A quick wave of thanks from me and no sign of impatience form the drivers. That is my normal experience in that situation.

I find an abundance of patience in Welsh drivers,no so in other part of the country

If there's wider bits or passing places that's a different matter,and a different road than what's being discussed,where the road is singletrack with other options open to motors there's no reason for them to use such a route other than for access



If there is a pressure it is from one's own mind. You are already making a big effort to keep the pedals going round. And now there is a car behind. Got to keep the steering neat. Don't want to hold people up too long. You have to blank that and just keep it going. The driver is sitting in a comfy chair, sheltered from the elements and listening to the radio. It will do them no harm to lose 30 seconds or more. Just keep the pedals turning, and if the driver behaves, give a wave of thanks when they pass.
Agreed,when I'm climbing and there's nowhere for the vehicle behind me to pass,I'm not in the least bit concerned for them waiting,even if they honk their horn or shout out of an open window,both of which I've experienced,and which just hardens my resolve .
However on a flatish road or descent where I'm holding them up I'll stop at the first opportunity.

I continually find the impatience of drivers whether on a singletrack road or not is displayed almost daily by some of the most dangerous driving idiots I come across,who'll overtake me within 50m of the tailend of a 20 car stationary traffic jam,on blind right hand bends,in the face of oncoming traffic causing them to brake,etc,etc.
The last time out with a group of 6 others we were all surprised when stopped at a T junction turning right,most of us with arms out indicating,to join a major road from a small lane,waiting for traffic clear.
A middle aged couple in a car came up behind us right hand indicator on,went into the right hand lane waiting to turn out into the same road as us,.The driver couldn't see if there was anything turning left off the major road into the lane
My cycling is littered with such incidents,where such drivers see me but completely disregard my presence,as if I'm not there at all.
It's scary at times and it's got worse in recent years IME.

Re: Too many vehicles!!!

9 February 2016 - 11:11am
reohn2 wrote:jollytiddlywink wrote:My suggestion for any road too narrow for a car and a bicycle to pass each other is to ban cars from it. Cycling both ways and people who want to motor can find a different route!

That makes perfect sense to me.
If two cars can't pass each other comfortably then it should be 'unsuitable for motors' or an 'access only' road with a 20mph limit.
In a sane a sensible society that would be the norm,however this is the UK

That would condemn large areas of Wales to a car ban. That might be a tad controversial. Better, perhaps, to try to get along with other road users. I've never got into an argument on country roads. I've inched up the narrowest, steepest part of the Gospel Pass climb out of Hay with a couple of cars waiting to get past, and they have hung back patiently for the minute or so it took to get to a wider bit. A quick wave of thanks from me and no sign of impatience form the drivers. That is my normal experience in that situation.

If there is a pressure it is from one's own mind. You are already making a big effort to keep the pedals going round. And now there is a car behind. Got to keep the steering neat. Don't want to hold people up too long. You have to blank that and just keep it going. The driver is sitting in a comfy chair, sheltered from the elements and listening to the radio. It will do them no harm to lose 30 seconds or more. Just keep the pedals turning, and if the driver behaves, give a wave of thanks when they pass.

Re: Too many vehicles!!!

9 February 2016 - 10:56am
karlt wrote:These are the people who see cycling purely as an occasional leisure activity so don't understand why you don't ride somewhere where there are paths instead of where you are. They don't grasp the concepts of utility or touring cycling.

No,these people can't see why cyclist don't ride where they aren't,the thought process goes no further than that,and their belligerence knows no bounds!

Re: Too many vehicles!!!

9 February 2016 - 10:52am
jollytiddlywink wrote:My suggestion for any road too narrow for a car and a bicycle to pass each other is to ban cars from it. Cycling both ways and people who want to motor can find a different route!

That makes perfect sense to me.
If two cars can't pass each other comfortably then it should be 'unsuitable for motors' or an 'access only' road with a 20mph limit.
In a sane a sensible society that would be the norm,however this is the UK

Re: Too many vehicles!!!

9 February 2016 - 10:44am
jollytiddlywink wrote:TonyR wrote:cycleruk wrote:It could be a local "rat run"?
The normal main road way could have hold ups so those in the know take the lane.


Those in the know are unlikely to take a lane so narrow that a cyclist and a car can't pass each other. The first time they meet another car is going to create an impasse with somebody having to reverse up.

My suggestion for any road too narrow for a car and a bicycle to pass each other is to ban cars from it. Cycling both ways and people who want to motor can find a different route!

I concur. My candidate is this one: https://goo.gl/maps/CC9Ya5JrpAn - used as a short cut by drivers between Chesterfield and the villages of Calow and Brimington; absolutely terrible after dark for people who think they'll be able to overtake or indeed get past coming the other way. You really, really, do not want to lose momentum going up this bugger.

Re: Too many vehicles!!!

9 February 2016 - 10:41am
Rob Archer wrote:ambodach wrote:There are sadly fairly frequent collisions on the A85 between Connel and Oban. There is a back road ( a cycle route incidentally) from Connel to Oban. Once police have been alerted one of their early moves is to close this back road to all motor traffic. Otherwise being single track it very quickly becomes a very long car park. At least it leaves it free for bikes and emergency vehicles. Generally it does not carry too much traffic so is reasonable to cycle on. Mind you anything would be better than the A85.
I was once shouted at by a driver on this road, who had to wait for me to get to a passing-place (I was riding uphill) "why can't you cyclists use the cyclepaths?". My response "why don't you drivers use the motorways?". A frequent exchange for many I know but I've never had it in such a location!

I've no idea where the nearest cyclepath or motorway to Oban is!

These are the people who see cycling purely as an occasional leisure activity so don't understand why you don't ride somewhere where there are paths instead of where you are. They don't grasp the concepts of utility or touring cycling.

Re: Deliveroo

9 February 2016 - 9:56am
Yes, there's the multistorey there but there used to be some car parking behind the shops on the inner side of the Horsefair. Or perhaps it was only meant for deliveries, but certainly people did park there.

Re: Slow riders?

9 February 2016 - 8:35am
Sometimes it feels I'm the only slow one. I bomb along on tour at about 10mph, stopping for this & that & being overtaken by all. So I think us slow ones are out there but never see each other as we are all going at a pace where we never catch each other.

Re: Deliveroo

9 February 2016 - 2:26am
brooksby wrote:Did you know that the Horsefair and Penn Street - which go around the outside of Broadmead past Debenhams, and between Cabot Circus and 'proper' Broadmead - are supposed to be "buses, taxis, cyclists and 'for access'" only? See it all the time, cars waiting at the lights at the bottom of Union Street turning right with a Police car in the left lane ignoring it.

General traffic' isn't supposed to come off the Centre and onto Quay Street).

Another I'm aware of but doesn't beat the car I saw come from Rupert Street turn left into Quay Street then right up Small Street

Bmblbzzz wrote:There used to be car parking off the Horsefair. Perhaps still is. It was there in the early '90s. Most likely Quakers Friars, the quieter part of the Cabot Circus development, people walk from Cabot Circus to Galleries but ignore the shops that are where the Registry Office once was.

Re: Downslink works: Bramber to Shoreham-by-Sea

9 February 2016 - 12:26am
squeaker wrote:Despite what it says on the engineering drawings, limestone 'dust' has been used as the top surface, so much like the recent Downslink alternative route under the A283 by the river. For drainage, the designer seems to be relying on camber plus permeability of the sub base. Having ridden it yesterday, my main concern is the edges in some parts, which are not to spec. and are going to crumble quickly, as well as presenting a bit of a hazard.
30cmEdgeDrop.jpgDrainage doesn't occur through base - ever - as it should be well compacted. Continuous shedding of rain water along the length is what is required and a camber or slant can achieve this. In the picture the path looks higher than the surrounding land, which should be fine. There appear to be ditches either side of the path which can take the water away from the path. I agree the limestone dust doesn't look that well rolled at the edges. Nearby or overhanging trees are the other problem that cause deterioration rural paths whatever the surface including black top (ie "tarmac").

Re: Too many vehicles!!!

8 February 2016 - 9:29pm
TonyR wrote:cycleruk wrote:It could be a local "rat run"?
The normal main road way could have hold ups so those in the know take the lane.


Those in the know are unlikely to take a lane so narrow that a cyclist and a car can't pass each other. The first time they meet another car is going to create an impasse with somebody having to reverse up.

My suggestion for any road too narrow for a car and a bicycle to pass each other is to ban cars from it. Cycling both ways and people who want to motor can find a different route!

Re: Downslink works: Bramber to Shoreham-by-Sea

8 February 2016 - 9:04pm
Does anybody know if the re-surfacing on the Bramber to Shoreham part of the Downs Link has been completed yet. Could find any info on the website.

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