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Re: Disappointing For Cyclists in Radstock

18 April 2015 - 7:46pm
Yes, I'm hopeful too CoffeeDrinkerUK. I embarked on a "shakedown" this morning with 2 weeks worth of gear on my Surly DT in preparation for a couple of missions in the next few months. Just under 30kg including all water, fuel, food etc. All felt good, but having spent a week on my Surly Big Dummy (light front end) I was getting used to slightly different handling skills...

...On coming out onto the new roundabout I was almost hit by a lady coming from the top of the hill (Westfield) who drove straight over the roundabout and then proceeded to switch from her lane into the wrong one at the first of the famous double roundabouts. TWICE she almost got me! I did my best to tick her off but she couldn't see or hear through her perm. Poor lady looked as lost as I did once in the Chimanimani mountains when I was 20.

It took me 6 miles to get back into the rhythm of enjoying a day out on my bike. I did learn something though: For my long hair, perms look pretty damn useful as an easy-maintenance option. Leo Sayer with a beard is a good look methinks.............b

Re: My first time being hit by a car today! Advice appreciat

18 April 2015 - 6:56pm
I am trying to be cautious here but .... unless there is absolutely nothing approaching a junction and i know have a clear run.. i am very wary about approaching lights etc at speed..... i would be easing back and have the brakes covered, it has got me out of a lot of situations that could have been a lot worse...

Please do not think i am saying you contributed, we should be able to go through lights/junctions at similar speeds to that which a vehicle might be travelling... when the situation is our favour.... it is just if i know there is likely to be traffic turning across me i am ultra cautious... and even more so since a driver in a similar situation to yours, landed me on the deck and off work for 6 months...

Re: What is gr8 about motorcycling?

18 April 2015 - 3:50pm
I suppose a similar question is what is the point of people cycling down hills at 40-45mph? Dangerous, ill advised, risky, yet they still do it.

Are the motivations any different qualitatively?

A piece on a motorbike ride by a cyclist.

http://www.farawayvisions.com/born-to-be-wild/

People I know who have poweerful motorbikes like the different experience, the quicker, less expensive alternative to the car, and from the more dynamic experience.

Ferdinand

Re: fewer motorists fined for mobile use

18 April 2015 - 3:13pm
Postboxer wrote:Just hit the phone a few times with the hammer of justice, then their car. That would sort it.
My thoughts exactly.
The problem is policing is increasingly politicised and the politrickians fear doing what is the correct thing due to a backlash come election time.
Not to mention police numbers being reduced almost monthly.
If the current bunch of clowns get in again we're set for even more reductions in services,whilst we employ police comissioners at high rates of pay whose jobs are totally superfluous.You couldn't make it up.
Then we are told crime is reducing year on year,what they don't mention is that it's reducing because people don't report small crimes any more,because they know nothing will be done if they do report it!
I think it's termed as ''cooking the books''

Re: fewer motorists fined for mobile use

18 April 2015 - 1:10pm
Just hit the phone a few times with the hammer of justice, then their car. That would sort it.

Re: My first time being hit by a car today! Advice appreciat

18 April 2015 - 12:19pm
pwa wrote:I've had a couple of similar incidents over the years. At junctions, low speed, and one was with a car driven by an old man who did not appear to completely with it. At least this sort of accident tends to result in minor injuries. It sounds like you have what you need to proceed with a compensation claim against the driver's insurance, which I think you should do. It may make the old man think carefully about his ability to react to traffic. It may be doing him a bit of a favour, really.

I am no "spring chicken" myself . Whilst trying to recover from the shock of the incident I remember looking at the elderly gent who hit me and he reminded me of my late father, whom my brothers and I had to stop driving for the safety of others and himself.

If the chaps mumbling almost incoherent speech and slow frail body movement was anything to go by he probably should not be on the road in any vehicle. I am in the process of assessing the cost of the damage to my bike and kit. Once I have got the total damages figure I will decide whether it is worth pursuing through his insurance or by presenting quotes and taking the cash. If he agrees to it?

Waking up this morning I have plenty of aches and pains and some in areas I did not last night. I am amazed that a 20 mph collision did not result in any major injuries and will count my blessings on that.

Re: My first time being hit by a car today! Advice appreciat

18 April 2015 - 11:59am
Edwards wrote:gremlin wrote: so I am almost starting to feel that I somehow contributed to my own misfortune today!

What you have to do now is question the "Made eye contact thought". Would it have made any difference in the space and time you had to react. To me the answer would be almost certainly not as you would not see the eyes until to late.

Do not let those thoughts take over and question where they came from and why.

You are quite right and thank you for the reality check. The thought that somehow it was my own fault is of course totally wrong. I do feel that perhaps I should have anticipated this happening, but I guess you can't ride a bike/motorbike, or drive a vehicle trying to anticipate everything that could happen on the road. I normally ride defensively and assertively and think nothing of taking primary when I feel I have to for my safety. This incident will just go down to 'expereince' and as another case of SMIDSY.

Re: My first time being hit by a car today! Advice appreciat

18 April 2015 - 10:26am
Glad you are relatively ok, might seem a bit petty to bother with but i would get those bruises looked at and photographed... if you need to later you will have evidence of your injuries and back up pictures.....

Get the damage to bike and any clothing damage photographed and recorded.

Keep a diary injury... how it affected you and how you recovered.. difficult to remember 2 years down the line when/if it goes to court..... Might sound daft for a relatively minor incident injury.. but when they start to wriggle out of payment.......

Eye Contact is a strange thing, one morning going to work I had a lady make full eye contact with me...... at least i saw she was looking in my direction but it was clear from the blank glazed look on her face that she was still asleep and looking straight through me... as she pulled left out of a side turning.... and i swerved into the middle of the road to around her.

Re: My first time being hit by a car today! Advice appreciat

18 April 2015 - 9:35am
Edwards wrote:Gaz you can not be certain that the eyes are focused on you.
Keith, I think you've misunderstood me. This was a SMIDSY, the driver's eyes were not focused on gremlin. Gremlin could not have made eye contact with someone who hasn't seen him, so gremlin should stop having doubts about his not making eye contact as being a cause of the incident.

Re: My first time being hit by a car today! Advice appreciat

18 April 2015 - 9:21am
Are you crazi Gremlin!!!! There's a war on out there. Wotudoin? Yer cyclin thru a soon to change green light at 20mph...without a helmet. That accident could be a wheelchair job or coffin. Yes,not your fault and,by all accounts,you've done nothing wrong and all the other good spiel. But it could have been RIP. I am now formally forgiving you because you sound as if you have youth on your side. I had it once. I think you have to anticipate,especially with the image I've conjured up from your story. 20mph! How are you going to stop suddenly with bike brakes goin at that speed,in 'town'(?) traffic. And no helmet on!! I cycle without a helmet on but... Watch out for yourself. Yes you appear not to be at fault,but laying in your coffin would that be any consolation? There's every nutter,screwball,JC and just ordinary guy out there...driving a one ton motor vehicle(does a car weigh a ton?). That's more than you and your bike. Any collision,right or wrong,you will come off worse. Go easy young man. Take care.

Glad to hear you escaped unharmed.

Sometimes motorists just don't seem to see cyclists. Especially those travelling at speed(yeh,I know 20mph isn't that much to some)

Re: My first time being hit by a car today! Advice appreciat

18 April 2015 - 9:08am
I've had a couple of similar incidents over the years. At junctions, low speed, and one was with a car driven by an old man who did not appear to completely with it. At least this sort of accident tends to result in minor injuries. It sounds like you have what you need to proceed with a compensation claim against the driver's insurance, which I think you should do. It may make the old man think carefully about his ability to react to traffic. It may be doing him a bit of a favour, really.

Re: Disappointing For Cyclists in Radstock

18 April 2015 - 7:42am
Elizabethsdad wrote:why do you have to 'pedestrianise' when your child is on board? Why does carrying the extra load mean you cannot use the roads as you normally do at other times?
I understand the concept of not being cowed and sticking to the roads, i seldom do pavements or get off and push. Getting from the Colliers Way to get over to the Bath side of Radstock has never been easy. I was there a fortnight ago, i couldn't find the little tunnel, It must have been demolished but there were problems getting to that point. Colliers way is being extended to reach closer into Radstock but there will still be the issue of getting accross to the othe side of the town. Hopefully a conveniently placed pelican crossing will be provided to pass over to and through the new houses where the old Rad Co was.

Re: My first time being hit by a car today! Advice appreciat

18 April 2015 - 12:13am
Check the insurance status on http://www.askmid.com/

Re: My first time being hit by a car today! Advice appreciat

17 April 2015 - 11:24pm
Gaz you can not be certain that the eyes are focused on you. This is the sort of thinking needed to get rid of the notion of being responsible for your own injuries.
It is a method of thinking I am on about not advice on roadcraft.

You question the thought then find something wrong with it to lesson your own doubt.

Re: fewer motorists fined for mobile use

17 April 2015 - 11:22pm
Bonefishblues wrote:reohn2 wrote:Bonefishblues wrote:Are you saying at least1 in 10 motorists are on the phone at any given time?

I'm saying stand on any busy junction and judge for yourself!
I'm assuming that you have, it just seems a very high proportion to me.

I've looked around when on the bike(a little higher so can see more and I'm a nosey old phart anyway) and am surprised at just how many people are using mobiles whilst waiting for TL's to change.Obviously mine is a guestimate and not a scientific study.
But what worries me more than anything is when in heavy traffic on M/ways(I use M6 J23 Haydock park race course to J19 Knutsford quite a lot, which is constantly chocker)the number of people using mobiles in what I'd term as probably the worst case scenario for causing an RTI,as bumper to bumper traffic speed fluctuates so much in those situations and with a few major junctions(three M/ways and two major roads)
Roughly about every fourth time I use that section of M/way there's either ''debris in the carriageway'' signs on the o/head gantry(usually bits of car)or two or three vehicles on the hard shoulder with various bits crumpled as a result of RTI fender benders or worse.
I've got so I can spot those using mobiles almost instantly,they wander in the carriageway,tailgating in lane 1(usually trucks for some reason,perhaps because they're slower and bigger so they think they'll spot them slowing sooner ),make sudden braking manoeuvres,etc.
Occasionally I'm wrong and it's someone applying make up,reading with the newspaper on the steering wheel,having a shave or squeezing zits ,etc,etc.

As I posted previously I'm sure most RTI's are caused by mobile use whilst driving.

Re: fewer motorists fined for mobile use

17 April 2015 - 11:05pm
reohn2 wrote:Bonefishblues wrote:Are you saying at least1 in 10 motorists are on the phone at any given time?

I'm saying stand on any busy junction and judge for yourself!
I'm assuming that you have, it just seems a very high proportion to me.

Re: fewer motorists fined for mobile use

17 April 2015 - 11:00pm
Bonefishblues wrote:Are you saying at least1 in 10 motorists are on the phone at any given time?

I'm saying stand on any busy junction and judge for yourself!

Re: My first time being hit by a car today! Advice appreciat

17 April 2015 - 10:58pm
Edwards wrote:What you have to do now is question the "Made eye contact thought".
Yep. If he had been looking at you, he'd have seen you. Damned hard to make eye contact with someone who isn't looking at you.

Re: My first time being hit by a car today! Advice appreciat

17 April 2015 - 10:54pm
gremlin wrote: so I am almost starting to feel that I somehow contributed to my own misfortune today!

My wife sometimes thinks this, she was taken out on a roundabout by a car entering from her left. This sort of reaction is normal in the way our minds work. Self preservation is a very high factor so "What If" is something that the brain uses to avoid the trauma again.

I am not inferring that you were in any way responsible for what happened. I am trying to explain the normal rational thought process that normal people go through when involved in an incident like this.

What you have to do now is question the "Made eye contact thought". Would it have made any difference in the space and time you had to react. To me the answer would be almost certainly not as you would not see the eyes until to late.

Do not let those thoughts take over and question where they came from and why.

Re: fewer motorists fined for mobile use

17 April 2015 - 10:19pm
Are you saying at least1 in 10 motorists are on the phone at any given time?

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