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Re: Another death

3 hours 16 min ago
reohn2 wrote:brynpoeth wrote: .. riding without sleep ... What about P-B-P, it takes place in 2015. Should it be banned or restricted? Open question!
It's something that troubles me about long distance Audax events.
But then again any driver of a vehicle not needing a tachograph to measure time driving,could be behind the wheel of such a vehicle at considerably higher speeds for as long as they saw fit,which is a worrying thought.
The difference of course is that a sleep deprived cyclist would more than likely only put their own life at risk.
Whereas someone driving a motor with the same level of sleep deprivation has the potential for far more devastation.

e.g. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/s ... y-cyclists
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... sleep.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... years.html

Re: Good road US road sign

6 hours 34 min ago
GrumpyGit wrote:Elizabethsdad wrote:Audax67 wrote:The bike needs a glove box to keep the .38 in.
I would suggest openly carried in a hip holster would be more effective and dude a .38? seriously? Berretta 92F surely.

I disagree, the .38 and 9mm are almost identical in their ballistics. My choice would be a 1911A1 the .45ACP has much better stopping power!

EDITED TO ADD:

What? Is nobody going to up the ante and suggest a Desert Eagle .50 AE ??
Mk5 thunderflash through an open window or stick it in the tailpipe (ala Eddie Murphey beverley Hills cops Stylie). They are cheap as anything to buy, far easier to conceal than a handgun and much easier to let off whilst still cycling..non lethal too, not great on eardrums mind

Re: Accident waiting to happen.

12 hours 22 min ago
Vorpal wrote:I'm not sure I understand why this is an accident waiting to happen? It is common in other countries to have parallel crossings for cyclists and pedestrians. It's not as beneficial an arrangement in the UK because there is no legal obligation to give way to cyclists in an uncontrolled crossing, but I doubt that drivers will deliberately run someone over just to be right. Anyway, for the time being, most drivers are not familiar with the legal details of cyclists using crossings, and will probably err on the side of caution.

In Denmark it is illegal for cyclists to use pedestrian crossings (there are usually separate/delineated parallel crossings, if a route is shared), but drivers stop for them, anyway.

The width of the crossing is the same as the width of the footpath plus the segregated cycle route. It implies to me that cyclists on the cycle route have priority over road traffic. There are no signs for cyclists to say otherwise.

Whenever I use a zebra with my bike, I will get off and walk. Most of the time I see other cyclists using zebras, they either walk, or cycle at no more than about five mph. Once cyclists start thinking they have priority, some will start moving a lot faster, and motorists generally won't be on the lookout for fast moving cyclists, looking only for people at walking speed.

Road traffic heading west, and turning left into Queen Charlotte Street will have cycle path traffic on their nearside, where it is harder to see. Cyclists heading west should cede priority to traffic possibly behind them, on to their right.

When the design of junctions confuses priorities, makes people think they have priority when they don't, bad things will happen.

Re: Accident waiting to happen.

12 hours 46 min ago
gaz wrote:The plans for the scheme are intriguing.

Road traffic heading south on Queen Charlotte Street meets a "Give Way" marking before the cycle section of the Zebra Crossing .

There is no such marking for road traffic heading northbound .

In any case the finished item on the ground might not match the plans.


There is no give way marking for road traffic heading south, and I don't recall any give way signs.

Re: Another death

12 hours 57 min ago
fretsaw wrote:very tragic;but surely such a epic ride would present problems with overcoming fatigue,and the resulting loss of concentration
Maybe. If it is possible to use that argument I'm sure it will be used. It could be a simple case of a drunk running down a cyclist and even the most alert of us can never be immune to that. Until we have any evidence of contributory negligence I think it would be appropriate not to speculate upon the subject.

Re: Ten Miles a Day

21 December 2014 - 11:53pm
I'm averaging 17.25 miles for the 355 days so far this year.

Re: Another death

21 December 2014 - 11:35pm
very tragic;but surely such a epic ride would present problems with overcoming fatigue,and the resulting loss of concentration

Re: Ten Miles a Day

21 December 2014 - 11:15pm
Sigma says 2,457 and garmin says 2,223 this year. Garmin has been known to be a lying little toe rag at times though so that's 6.7 miles a day ish.
Might have been more but I got myself one of those girlfriend things last year and that ate into the cycling big time. Can't complain though
Next year I'm re-joining the clarion (I KNOW I KNOW!!!) and provided they don't kill me on my first few outings (the first being on new years day ) zee miles should soon pile up again

Re: Ten Miles a Day

21 December 2014 - 7:57pm
Hi,
Three and a half weeks off bike so I will have to settle on 11.31 M / day, thats twice last years at 5.69 , average Heart Rate has been 145, resting HR is mid 40's.

Re: Feeling guilty whilst not cycling & car use thru illness

21 December 2014 - 6:01pm
It weren't windy here yesterday, that was the thing..today however, going up hill was almost as fast as downhill in places..lol

Re: Accident waiting to happen.

21 December 2014 - 4:22pm
The plans for the scheme are intriguing.

Bristol.jpg

Road traffic heading south on Queen Charlotte Street meets a "Give Way" marking before the cycle section of the Zebra Crossing .

There is no such marking for road traffic heading northbound .

In any case the finished item on the ground might not match the plans.

Re: Good road US road sign

21 December 2014 - 4:21pm
GrumpyGit wrote:Elizabethsdad wrote:Audax67 wrote:The bike needs a glove box to keep the .38 in.
I would suggest openly carried in a hip holster would be more effective and dude a .38? seriously? Berretta 92F surely.

I disagree, the .38 and 9mm are almost identical in their ballistics. My choice would be a 1911A1 the .45ACP has much better stopping power!

EDITED TO ADD:

What? Is nobody going to up the ante and suggest a Desert Eagle .50 AE ??

Doesn't matter if you use hollowpoint.

Re the French 1.5-metre sign, they're most often found just behind overhanging foliage.

The one to beware of next year is this:



Some of the compulsory cycle paths are terrible but the police throughout France have been instructed to fine cyclists not taking them. I've seen compulsory paths over lumpy pavement, covered in debris, parked cars, and dustbins, and leading you under tree branches a metre off the ground.

Re: Feeling guilty whilst not cycling & car use thru illness

21 December 2014 - 4:12pm
It is fairly horribly cold in that wind today. Everything seems to take more effort and I've not got a cold. I expect I'd be slower than usual on the bike too:

Re: Another death

21 December 2014 - 4:04pm
thirdcrank wrote:661-Pete wrote: ... But I probably shouldn't be speculating - not on this thread at this time. ...

It all depends on the evidence gathered during the investigation, of course, but if this were to result in a contested trial, I'd expect that the defence would emphasise the length of time the deceased had been riding apparently without sleep, and the implication of poor mental health.

Before anybody jumps on me, I'm only predicting a couple of lines the defence might explore, without expressing an opinion on the merit of their doing so.
But could only be of any value if the defendant claimed the cyclist had wobbled/veered/swerved in front the car she was driving.But at twice the legal limit and 15+mph over the speed limit,with four month driving experience,how reliable would her account of events be?
Not very is my estimation .

brynpoeth wrote: .. riding without sleep ... What about P-B-P, it takes place in 2015. Should it be banned or restricted? Open question!
It's something that troubles me about long distance Audax events.
But then again any driver of a vehicle not needing a tachograph to measure time driving,could be behind the wheel of such a vehicle at considerably higher speeds for as long as they saw fit,which is a worrying thought.
The difference of course is that a sleep deprived cyclist would more than likely only put their own life at risk.
Whereas someone driving a motor with the same level of sleep deprivation has the potential for far more devastation.

Re: What do you say?

21 December 2014 - 3:37pm
This happened, the driver then drove into the kerb across the cycle path to impede my forward motion

Simply pointed out the GoPro and stated that it was obvious from his attitude and driving that he had no idea of a safe distance and I would be asking the Police to educate him

They did!

Re: Accident waiting to happen.

21 December 2014 - 3:26pm
Vorpal

A few issues there which have been thrashed out on the turbo roundabout and elsewhere. eg Problems with making farcilities (another unscientific word but well-done! to whoever coined it) safe where they meet a main carriageway is one of the reasons some people are opposed to them. Then, I think the general view is that, subject to proper behaviour by drivers, a well-used pedestrian crossing does not maximise traffic capacity which is why highwaymen like light-controlled crossings (although the official plan on the current "deathtrap" thread refers to crossings being converted to zebras to achieve it.)

All I really was trying to say is that a lack of clarity is unhelpful to the point of being dangerous and that's even more likely when the existing arrangement (zebra crossings for pedestrians) has been in operation for some eighty years and is still widely abused by drivers. IMO, there is value in comparison with other societies and in this context, I'd say the starting point is the attitudes towards vulnerable road users. The infrastructure can only follow.

I didn't write the thread title, but it's only the same as the pseudo-scientific stuff highwaymen trot out to supress suggestions they don't like. Indeed "This would confuse drivers" is one I have often heard. And I think that's a large part of what I've been trying to say here. Attitudes won't change quickly but one thing we don't want is drivers deciding it's their duty to discipline cyclists riding across zebra crossings, especially in locations where they are entitled to do so. Local publicity is of limited value because drivers have a tendency to go all over the place. I can think of several experimental schemes - around here we had X crossings - which were not followed up because of the confusion, which must largely have involved strangers to Leeds, rather than Leeds Loiners being too thick to grasp the concept. In the present economic climate, I think that national publicity is unlikely.

Re: Accident waiting to happen.

21 December 2014 - 3:14pm
Like Bedford, this scheme is part funded from the Cycle Safety Fund, scheme X125.

Plans, etc here: https://bristol.citizenspace.com/city-d ... und-scheme

Re: What do you say?

21 December 2014 - 2:24pm
I'd warn him of the consequences should he try to kill me again but using colourful, descriptive language. I'd probably get very very angry.

Re: What do you say?

21 December 2014 - 1:31pm
Highway code rule 164.

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