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Re: Mam Tor, shivering mountain

1 hour 15 min ago
Spinners wrote:A few piccies of the worst bits here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ition.html

Yes, great fun on a mountain bike although its a few years since I've ridden it.

Re: Carrying a defibrillator

2 hours 15 min ago
eileithyia wrote:Reading the responses, was thinking the same as Neilo.... GET HELP FIRST...... you must have help on it's way before you begin any CPR you cannot continue CPR forever, it is extremely tiring...... and you should not stop until the help arrives.. if someone arrives who asks if they can help, get them to do a spell of CPR (if they can) to give you a rest.

Always remember, if you need to give CPR the person is effectively dead, as said elsewhere; what more harm can you do? You can't! But you MIGHT affect the outcome.

The Hollywood scenario of CPR bringing back the dead in dramatic fashion skews our belief on the effectiveness of CPR.

If you should carry anything it should be low dose Aspirin, if someone collapses with chest pains then an Aspirin can be effective. Remember an AED will only be effective once the heart has already stopped... if there is a pulse then AED and CPR is NOT appropriate.

If you have someone with classics symptoms of a heart attack (chest pain, pallor, clammy skin etc) having an AED connected BEFORE they arrest is far more likely to be successful than waiting for them to arrest first. If they do arrest, vital seconds/minutes are saved.

Re: Mam Tor, shivering mountain

2 hours 22 min ago
Deep cracks criss-cross the road next to perilous cliffs where the right of way has shifted vertically below where cars once drove safely along a main road in Derbyshire.

Cars drove safely?

When

Re: Four 4x4's/SUV'S on a forty mile ride

2 hours 25 min ago
MikeF wrote:reohn2 wrote:MikeF
I too get grief from other vehicles but single out 4x4/SUV's as proportionally worse, which obviously is down to the drivers, one has to ask why that is?
What were you saying?!!! http://www.eastgrinsteadcourier.co.uk/Elderly-cyclists-seriously-hurt-collision-BMW/story-22820543-detail/story.html . It may have been a "60mph road", but that speed is too fast for these "S" bends which is approximately where the collision was according to the paper.
Whilst we don't know what speed the car was travelling or the cause of the incident I agree a 60mph limit on that road is too high.
I'm constantly surprised at some speed limits posted,though mainly they're too high there are some too low but to err on the low side can only help calm traffic .

Re: Mam Tor, shivering mountain

2 hours 47 min ago
A few piccies of the worst bits here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ition.html

Re: Carrying a defibrillator

2 hours 53 min ago
Reading the responses, was thinking the same as Neilo.... GET HELP FIRST...... you must have help on it's way before you begin any CPR you cannot continue CPR forever, it is extremely tiring...... and you should not stop until the help arrives.. if someone arrives who asks if they can help, get them to do a spell of CPR (if they can) to give you a rest.

Always remember, if you need to give CPR the person is effectively dead, as said elsewhere; what more harm can you do? You can't! But you MIGHT affect the outcome.

The Hollywood scenario of CPR bringing back the dead in dramatic fashion skews our belief on the effectiveness of CPR.

If you should carry anything it should be low dose Aspirin, if someone collapses with chest pains then an Aspirin can be effective. Remember an AED will only be effective once the heart has already stopped... if there is a pulse then AED and CPR is NOT appropriate.

Mam Tor, shivering mountain

3 hours 18 min ago
The road from Castleton to Chapel en le Frith used to go over the hill known as Mam Tor. The geology of the hillside up which the road zig zagged was so unstable that it was constantly under repair. In the end the authorities admitted defeat, closed the road and left the hillside to its own devices. But the road still features in books of bike rides, so a couple of weeks ago I went down it.

It is an amazing sight. Not pretty in any way, rather sinister in fact, but fascinating. In places the road surface is more or less intact, if at a crazy angle, with deep holes in the peat at the sides. In places the road is broken up in slabs, like sea ice. In other places, all evidence that there had been a road has disappeared, leaving almost natural looking pools, tussocks of vegetation and drifts of peat.

I was riding steadily on an apparently undamaged section. Ahead of me the road seemed to dip and then rise again or level out. I would have continued blithely on but for a boy who was staring intently at the road surface at just the point where it seemed to dip.

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I got off and pushed the bike. I had to get quite close to the dip to see that in fact the road had sheered neatly and dropped vertically down. If I had continued I would have crashed on to the jagged road surface below.

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As I was carrying my bike, with some difficulty, round the obstacle, the boy’s grandfather came down the hill and said to me “Do you know, I think he [the boy] would have let you go straight over the edge?” I replied “Do you know, I think he would.” A lame response, but at the time I could think of nothing better. After a couple of weeks I still can’t

Re: Must've been Changeover Day?

9 hours 16 min ago
Carry them up to hotel/into the caravan, get the turbo trainer out of the boot, get some training in the evening whilst the kids sleep, in the absence of a baby sitter.

Or maybe take bike on holiday with big plans, then the weather's bad so they don't go out. If they do go out, maybe just one short ride around the holiday park or on a shared use path?

Re: Can I have a moan?

10 hours 1 min ago
Would carefully dismantling a car count as damage? Either that or just making it known on local forums how much you'd hate for it to be vandalised and how you wouldn't dare look out of your house if you heard a car being smashed up on your driveway.

Re: Can I have a moan?

10 hours 7 min ago
Though I believe that you are not going to be allowed to SORN a vehicle if it is kept off the road on a council property any more, so it has a private/public property duality.

Re: Can I have a moan?

1 September 2014 - 11:31pm
Bicycler wrote:Not at all. Council property is owned, albeit by a public body. It is private land in the sense that we use the term.
Precisely! Many people wrongly assume that Council owned land (or property) is "public" land and therefore free access is automatically granted. The land or property is private, but owned by a public body.

Re: Carrying a defibrillator

1 September 2014 - 11:23pm
I did notice there was one at the top of Blackpool Tower, which you take a lift to get to, although there are a few flights of optional stairs if you want to go a bit higher up.
If I was going to put one anywhere, I think I'd want one at the top of Warwick Castle, along with a bench up there too. There's a tall tower and it's one way narrow staircases up and down, with nowhere to sit if you make it to the top. If anyone is struggling on the way up, the queue of people behind them prevents them from going anywhere other than up.
It's also quite tricky to get a stretcher up and down there.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Castle+co ... 0197214088

Re: Must've been Changeover Day?

1 September 2014 - 11:18pm
Similar experience. Had a fabulous day off-road riding in the Lake District on Tuesday - beautiful sunny day, dry trails and nice temperatures. Didn't meet a single other rider on the off-road bits and only a couple of roadies on the road bits. Yet there were plenty of bikes on cars and bike racks on cars to be seen. So quite what they do do with their bikes is a mystery but riding them on or off road doesn't seem to come into it.

Re: Can I have a moan?

1 September 2014 - 11:16pm
In reply to the OP. My experience of many fishermen is that the attitude you found is very common.

Re: Must've been Changeover Day?

1 September 2014 - 11:05pm
Mick F wrote:Are these people cyclists, or people who take their bikes on holiday?
Well don't bikes need a holiday as well . What better place than Cornwall!

Re: Four 4x4's/SUV'S on a forty mile ride

1 September 2014 - 11:02pm
reohn2 wrote:MikeF
I too get grief from other vehicles but single out 4x4/SUV's as proportionally worse, which obviously is down to the drivers, one has to ask why that is?
What were you saying?!!! http://www.eastgrinsteadcourier.co.uk/Elderly-cyclists-seriously-hurt-collision-BMW/story-22820543-detail/story.html . It may have been a "60mph road", but that speed is too fast for these "S" bends which is approximately where the collision was according to the paper.

Re: Solo night ride

1 September 2014 - 10:32pm
The forecasts suggest it will be quite mild on Thursday night

By way of extra clothes for the temperature forecast I usually take a thin merino base layer, a light wind jacket or a waterproof depending on the forecast and Silk inner gloves and a buff or skull cap.

If wet a dry pair of gloves and socks in a plastic bag either boost morale at the halfway stop or make the journey home more bearable

Re: Must've been Changeover Day?

1 September 2014 - 8:42pm
A very common sight on roads near a Centr Parc.

Re: Solo night ride

1 September 2014 - 8:13pm
I've several Windstopper tops and I find it very a good fabric, but it's not cheap and perhaps not worth buying for a single ride. Before Windstopper was available - and when I'd have been unable to afford it anyway - I used to carry a large rectangle of breathable fabric, cut from the back of an old anorak. That was compact enough to carry in a back pocket for stuffing up the jumper when needed. Going back even earlier, I've salvaged newspaper from bins for the same purpose and even a bit of cardboard, but that was largely through setting out unprepared: assuming it would stay warm throughout a long ride.

A lot depends on what you would wear anyway at this time of year. I'm a softy and I hate cold extremities so a hat and gloves would be a must for me and even thin overshoes. I have ridden all night in midsummer in shorts but I'd take tights.

Re: 2 LeJog deaths: Death by dangerous driving charge

1 September 2014 - 7:48pm
ChrisButch wrote:What particularly rankles here is that, despite what must have been overwhelming evidence, given the immediate guilty pleas, he was free to drive pending trial. Surely the very least which could be expected after such events would be a requirement temporarily to surrender his licence?

I think this is a good point and AFAIK it's possible without any change to the law or current procedure. I don't think it's even necessary to disqualify the driver temporarily from driving: agreeing not to drive motor vehicles could be imposed as a bail condition (breach of which can lead to arrest etc.) I can't see it happening, largely because of the prolonged period on bail when a defendant like this one would be prevented from working. (That's an explanation, not a justification on my part.) The fact of his bail being renewed after the second bad driving case probably shows how strong that attitude is. I don't know what bail conditions, if any, were imposed after the charge for the later offence.

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