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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

39 min 20 sec ago
My money is on the cyclist was either very tired or perhaps drunk. Whatever it was there is no doubt his brain is in neutral. I doubt whether he rides like that on a regular basis

Re: Islington cyclist stab murder inquiry begins

1 hour 7 min ago
mercalia wrote:London is getting frightening?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31672691

People get stabbed in London all the time.

It's all to do with it being a cosmopolitan, tolerant and vibrant place to live.

Or so I'm told.

Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

1 hour 40 min ago
The fat commuter wrote:Audax67 wrote:If he had reached the drops and braked hard there's a fair chance he would have gone over the bars anyway and under the truck instead of just hitting it.
Does he not go over the bars? It looks to me like he brakes hard, goes over the top and his head/helmet stop him going any further as he hits the side of the lorry (cleaning a bit of muck off the side).

Fortunately he was OK - could have been worse.

With regards to blame - we'd have to see what the other lights were on. They could have still been on amber (changing to red just as the lorry went over the stop line). Bit of a grey area law wise from the lorry driver's perspective if that was the case.

In my view, there were mistakes from both parties. However, who was the most stupid has got to go to the cyclist for not seeing or hearing a blummin' great lorry in his path.

Aye, you're right, he did manage to reach the brakes and go over. He'd have been more stable and had more time if he'd braked from the hoods.

Re hearing, it is in traffic, it'd be hard to make out the lorry. But in any case it looks as if he was jumping the gun at the lights and expecting everyone else to obey them to the letter. A bit daft, that.

Re: Where to cycle on semi-narrow lanes?

1 hour 46 min ago
Pot holes are that bad in our region the grassy centre is an attractive route [emoji3]

Re: Where to cycle on semi-narrow lanes?

1 hour 51 min ago
My local lanes you should not normally cycle in primary (or maybe it's "would not") - mainly because they are only single track and the middle/primary tends to have grass growing or loads of stones/gravel/sand. Only place to cycle is (what I maybe incorrectly call) secondary i.e. in the vehicle wheel tracks which is the only bit with a real "road surface).

Ian

Re: Cyclists are treated as if they are staionary.

3 hours 31 min ago
Seems to be the age old perceptional difference between whether a cyclist constitutes ‘road traffic’ to be treated with respect, or ‘road furniture’ to be passed without thought.

It is ‘all in the mind’. And given the mindset of many drivers that is a perplexing state of affairs for those of us of the lycra persuasion.

Be safe, be seen, be in primary?

Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

3 hours 36 min ago
If the other traffic lights were where they appeared to be, I don't think the lorry driver has much of an excuse for passing them. Given the size of the junction, and assuming that the light timings reflect the time necessary for traffic to clear the junction, he's taken a red light IMO.
So did the cyclist - he was rolling quite quickly past the light as it changed. He certainly didn't wait for a green light. I reckon he didn't actually wait for an amber - he predicted it - and permitted himself to go forwards.

Whose fault was it?
Both parties.

Who committed the additional fault of riding at a moving one way stream of traffic without even looking in the direction from which it was coming?
Not one of natures natural survivors then...

Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

3 hours 39 min ago
the idiot cyclist had his head down racing style? what a jerk, an advert for spec savers?

Re: Cycling into the sun

3 hours 49 min ago
That sort of advice is like saying "only bet on the winning horse".

I think we all know that, how about them stating when the risk is increased enough to abandon the primary. Often it is more a matter of nerve than judgement.

Re: Where to cycle on semi-narrow lanes?

3 hours 57 min ago
Paulatic wrote:On the size of lane you describe I'd be out in the road so they think they can't get passed. Once I hear them slow down I move to the left and let them past. If there is nothing coming the other way of course.

+1. A strong primary position forces drivers to use the other side of the road to overtake and only if that lane is clear.

Just to add, as the OP is based in London, that in urban areas it's often tricky to pull in due to constant parked cars and traffic. I always look for an opportunity to be courteous but find I also have to be quite assertive – I'll use eye contact and primary position until there is a a decent sized gap without parked cars where I will pull over and slow down, but still keep a car's width from the kerb. That way I can move back into the traffic flow when more parked cars block my way.

Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

4 hours 16 min ago
Audax67 wrote:If he had reached the drops and braked hard there's a fair chance he would have gone over the bars anyway and under the truck instead of just hitting it.
Does he not go over the bars? It looks to me like he brakes hard, goes over the top and his head/helmet stop him going any further as he hits the side of the lorry (cleaning a bit of muck off the side).

Fortunately he was OK - could have been worse.

With regards to blame - we'd have to see what the other lights were on. They could have still been on amber (changing to red just as the lorry went over the stop line). Bit of a grey area law wise from the lorry driver's perspective if that was the case.

In my view, there were mistakes from both parties. However, who was the most stupid has got to go to the cyclist for not seeing or hearing a blummin' great lorry in his path.

Re: Cycling into the sun

4 hours 30 min ago
danhopgood wrote: ... I consider primary to be a very bad position to be in low sun. ....

While looking for something else, I found this in Cyclecraft: (p90 9th impression 2013) under Exceptions to the advice on positioning

... There is, however, one important exception to the rules for holding the primary riding position - when there is a significantly increased risk of being hit from behind. ...

Re: Where to cycle on semi-narrow lanes?

5 hours 35 min ago
On the size of lane you describe I'd be out in the road so they think they can't get passed. Once I hear them slow down I move to the left and let them past. If there is nothing coming the other way of course.

Re: Halfords Cardiff £20 Helmet worth £80

5 hours 38 min ago
I bought some tyres from Halfords today. £32.99 in store, £23.99 via click and collect (Conti Gators). Lesson - always check the Internet price before buying (luckily I did). I don't know how they can justify the price difference when it is the same tyres you are buying.

Where to cycle on semi-narrow lanes?

5 hours 58 min ago
Obivously on a narrow lane you should cycle in the centre. Wide lanes allow you to cycle 1 m from the kerb and still be overtaken with sufficient distance. The problem is when the lane width is between this. In that case, you can still cycle 1m from the kerb and be overtaken with a 1m gap ( just about), but it doesn't feel very pleasant. I'm not really sure what do.

A related problem is wide lanes with parked cars. In that case, cycling only away from the car door leaves you vulnerable to a close overtake.

Re: Telford Town Centre Revamp

6 hours 57 min ago
Which ones do you mean?

I don't come across any on my usual run out to Lawley.

Re: Islington cyclist stab murder inquiry begins

8 hours 3 min ago
Can we copy the tweet, but hashtag putdownyourlorries

Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

8 hours 17 min ago
Well, I have long palms and short fingers, and find it much easier to brake from the hoods than from the drops. I have my brakes adjusted accordingly. Virtually the only time I'm on the drops is on long downhills.

Route Help for Ealing (W5) to Slough (SL1)

9 hours 27 min ago
Hello,

Just wondering if anyone does this route as a commute and can recommend a good/safe route (I'm relatively new to the area), but not along the canal as I want to use the road bike.

I'm really wanting to start to cycle to work, on Fridays to begin with as the roads are less busy, but I'm struggling to find a decent route due to Heathrow and the M25.

For reference I need to travel between:

W5 4PA

SL1 4AA

(These are just nearby shops)

Thanks in advance!

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