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Re: Hand signals on bike

1 hour 35 min ago
honwal wrote:........as a foot note how many cyclist use hand signals

Everytime I manoeuvre,but it doesn't stop some maniacs from overtaking in some of the most dangeous circumstances,I could write a book.......

BTW it doesn't appear you did anything wrong,other than commit th cardinal sin of holding up someone who's more important than you

Re: Hand signals on bike

2 hours 13 min ago
If you are already turning then it's too late to signal.

Re: Shock finding: cycling causes weight loss

2 hours 13 min ago
Back in the 60s few had cars, everyone walked and cycled much much more, there were no slob jobs sat in front of a computer, and evenings werent spent slumped in front of a tv. Everyone was much more active. Lean meat like chicken was just a Christmas treat and we all stuffed our faces with loads of bread and potatoes and piled sugar in our tea. A bowl of porridge followed by a fry up for breakfast every day was common with a canteen meal of meat and 2 veg at lunchtime plus an evening meal or pile of bread and jam for tea. At that time people were a lot slimmer on average and the sprinkling of fatties was sparse.
Its easy to see whats so obvious. Being more active clearly helps to ward off fat. A 2 hour commute on a bike will burn over 1000 calories. Exercise is healthy and an excellent dietary component. It isnt rocket science

Al

Re: Panniers vs Courier Bag (Commuting)

2 hours 42 min ago
My 40l 'Pro Action' panniers cost £10 and have lasted nigh on 14 years, I've relegated one because I managed to buy some new Halfords/Bike Hut top of the range jobs for peanuts off ebay that are probably closer to 30l each and are much much deeper/straight sided so I run odd panniers now.
The proaction is metal clasp and takes a decent tug to pull off, the Halfords is a thick plastic hook and pulls off fairly easily but both are very much solidly in place on the rack despite the Halfords being quite light and only having a couple of tubes/zip ties and a bungee hook in it.
I'm deffo not a touring cyclist, I use mine to transport my groceries/shopping, change of clothes, wine/beer & hot meals that I've cooked when visiting friends. Taken picnic stuff and rug on leisure days out and of course ample fluids and food when doing a long ride or audax.
There is absolutely no way I could do 25% of the trips using a courier bag and even with a 70l rucksack which I used when visiting the folks and using panniers too, I know that shoving soft foodstuffs into a rucksack makes it difficult to pack and having to delve into it is a drag not to mention the weight/strain on back/shoulders.
Saddle bags are fine for small/er amounts of stuff but if they have any decent weight in them they can have an amplified effect even when firmly secured when out the saddle even with little wobbling. You'd have to multiply that up 3 or 4 times to have anything like same effect in a set of rear panniers IME.

Re: Hand signals on bike

2 hours 47 min ago
Si wrote:Neilo wrote:Si wrote: For instance, a left turn on a car-less road might also need a signal if there is a ped about to cross the road I'm going into.

Shouldn't you give way to the ped?

Give way to people who have already started crossing, but if they are on the pavement (i.e. about to cross) then they ought to wait for you...otherwise, if you stop every time you see someone loitering, about to cross you'll end up (a) confusing them (with plenty of mutual "you first Claude"s), and (b) getting some other half asleep road user ramming you up the 'arris.
We've had long threads on this topic haven't we? Whilst we all seem to agree on the priority of pedestrians already crossing and that pedestrians shouldn't step out in front of vehicles in the process turning there seems to be disagreement about whether pedestrians ought to give way to traffic which is intending to turn left. No-one has yet convinced me of the existence of an exception to the general rule that those travelling along a road have priority over those turning.

Re: Panniers vs Courier Bag (Commuting)

2 hours 48 min ago
Flinders wrote:But every pannier/rackpack I've had has been a bit of a nuisance to ship/unship and carry around compared to a rucksack.
This guy makes Ortlieb Back-Roller Classic panniers look pretty convenient, but I suppose they’re still not quite as easy to deal with off the bike as a rucksack.

Re: Panniers vs Courier Bag (Commuting)

2 hours 55 min ago
I don't like how a rucksack affects my balance, so apart from a tiny fold-up one for lightweight unintended purchases which I keep in my rackpack I don't use one.
But every pannier/rackpack I've had has been a bit of a nuisance to ship/unship and carry around compared to a rucksack.
I suppose you can't have everything.

I've never used a courier bag, but on the occasions I cycle carrying a heavy (DSLR+2.8/70-200) camera bag on my shoulder I find it a complete pest. I can only manage if I sort of 'wedge' it up on the rear carrier behind me. (It can't go in a pannier because it has to be immediately accessible)

Brooksby, I'm getting a Carradice A4 for my birthday. I'm glad to hear you like yours, can't wait for mine, it should take my paintbox perfectly (which currently bounces around in a huge old Ortlieb that's far too big for it).

Re: You Are A Bunch of Frauds

2 hours 56 min ago
Hi Onyeright
The Galaxy has Schwabe Marathon Plus, the Vanquish has very thin looking ones.

Re: Shock finding: cycling causes weight loss

3 hours 3 min ago
The 'modern" high carb diet I refer to is loaded with sugar.
American eat 150lb of sugar per person. Irish about 130. British maybe a little less.
100 years ago intake much lower and contrary to what you believe, the standard diet some time ago included a lot of bacon, eggs, sausages etc. That's all gone to be replaced by breakfast cereals with added sugar.

Re: Shock finding: cycling causes weight loss

3 hours 6 min ago
You didn't read all the answer.
Go back and read it.

Re: Fell off on a sort of tramline - advice please?

4 hours 17 min ago
Very remiss of me to forget this earlier: hope you and bike both get better soon.

If you can't find an old report, I don't think you'll get compensation, but thank you for reporting it so that the next victim might.

Re: Hand signals on bike

4 hours 20 min ago
Mistik-ka wrote:Legal requirement or not, I think it is a good idea to provide other drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians with the information
The problem isn't the information - it's what they do with it.
Indicating left whilst there's traffic behind you who also wants to turn left can result in them making a last second dash to get to the corner before you for fear of being stuck behind a bicycle.
Ditto cars waiting to turn right in front of you can sometimes use your left indication as an OK for them to go - even if they actually can't.
This is such a problem that a number of cycling 'manuals' advise against it.

Obviously that doesn't mean you should never indicate, just that you should be aware of the dangers and factor them in.

Re: Hand signals on bike

4 hours 24 min ago
Question from an innocent colonial: is it not legally required to signal your intention to turn or change lanes?

Legal requirement or not, I think it is a good idea to provide other drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians with the information they need so that they can conduct themselves safely. Whether I'm on my bike, on foot, or in a car, I find unpredictable behaviour by others can be stressful/infuriating/downright dangerous. On the guiding principle of do-as-you-would-be-done-by I try to signal my intention consistently.

Re: Fell off on a sort of tramline - advice please?

4 hours 24 min ago
Ouch! I hope you get well soon and don't discover any nasty after-effects.

Re: Fell off on a sort of tramline - advice please?

4 hours 51 min ago
Thanks, for the good wishes. I did immediately report my accident to the County Council but they havent done anything. I am toying with the idea of writing to them with a claim and demanding they fix the road surface before someone else is injured. I found some s/h 9 speed levers and bars and the bike is now being fixed with the insurance money.

Al

Re: Hand signals on bike

5 hours 17 min ago
its best to always assume that any ped will simply walk into your path regardless of what you signal lol

Re: Fell off on a sort of tramline - advice please?

5 hours 17 min ago
If you have yet to report this bad road surface, what about doing that now just to see if they do repair it? Should they do so then might that give strength to an argument that it was below standard in the first instance?

Just me mentally meandering - must get out more

And last but certainly not least, sorry to hear of your pain (to body and your new Mercian) and I wish you both a speedy recovery.

Re: Fell off on a sort of tramline - advice please?

5 hours 38 min ago
reohn2 wrote:Yes, it's tedious, but what's the alternative? Ignore it and then when a fellow rider crashes, the highway authority gets away scot free? Better to report them and nudge councils towards actually taking proper care.
TBH If I thought for one moment the councils in my area(like the police)gave a monkeys for me reporting bad and potholed roads I'd pick up the phone and ring them.
Sorry if I wasn't clear: don't report these things to councils directly. They've little interest in dealing properly with direct reports. If they made old reports easy to find, then people could see that the council or its agents knew and didn't act.

Report them somewhere like fixmystreet or CTC's fillThatHole that keeps an easily-searchable public record, usable by anyone else that suffers consequences of the same defect and council inaction. I'm pretty sure that the main reason a council contractor compensated me for damage and consequences was because the defect had already appeared on fillThatHole.

But yes, if you've no mobile web device, then I guess it would need a notebook until you get back online.

Re: Fell off on a sort of tramline - advice please?

5 hours 40 min ago
When I've been a party to discussions about reporting potholes, I'll admit to being one of those saying it would be easier to report the rare decent bits between them. In earlier years of filthathole, I decided to do some systematic reporting. Notebook, camera, and a detailed report of everything I saw with a pic. On some roads this was every few feet. They were nearly all in Leeds so I suspect they must have got sick of me but nearly all received some sort of attention. This varied from a totally inadequate shovel of tarmac to complete resurfacing. It's possible, of course, that in many cases that if something was that bad, they were going to fix it anyway. Although it was time-consuming, it was when I had some time to spare. Several things occurred to change that but also, I began to get follow up requests from the fillthathole admin wanting to know if the defects had been rectified. My first problem with that was that I didn't feel inclined to trail round them all for a second look. Beyond that, if I report a highway defect in this way, I'm only saying that I think it needs fixing. What the highwaymen do about it is their responsibility, as the professional people appointed to deal with it. If I go back then report that it's been fixed, I'm giving it a tick of approval I'm not qualified to give.

eg There have been varying opinions on the defect that prompted the thread. It's not easy to assess something like that from a single pic, but as I've already posted, it doesn't look OK to me. Others differ, and fair enough. Let's suppose Al had discovered that a defect at that location had been reported via fillthathole or similar, and the cyclist making that report had subsequently declared it "fixed."

Re: Hand signals on bike

5 hours 41 min ago
Neilo wrote:Si wrote: For instance, a left turn on a car-less road might also need a signal if there is a ped about to cross the road I'm going into.

Shouldn't you give way to the ped?

Give way to people who have already started crossing, but if they are on the pavement (i.e. about to cross) then they ought to wait for you...otherwise, if you stop every time you see someone loitering, about to cross you'll end up (a) confusing them (with plenty of mutual "you first Claude"s), and (b) getting some other half asleep road user ramming you up the 'arris.

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