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Re: Red light jumper arrested fined and point on licence

3 September 2015 - 10:13pm
ArMoRothair wrote:jezer wrote:I assume they take the same stance with motorists?

Absolutely.

I know someone who had the cops call to his office in the afternoon because a pedestrian claimed he, while driving, had not given way at a pedestrian crossing. My friend swears it was a very marginal call; the pedestrian hadn't quite reached the crossing when my friend drove over it.

He was offered a multi-hundred Euros fine or a driving course. As he was finishing his contract and returning to the UK he choose neither and simply left the country.

Years later, while transferring flights at Frankfurt, the passport control officer beckoned him into an interview room and he was relieved of several hundred Euros.

They don't mess about.
Whilst that example is OTT,which would we rather have,law enforcement or as it is in the UK,practically non at all?

Driver gave me plenty of room this morning...

3 September 2015 - 9:59pm
... by driving up onto the pavement to get by while I was passing parked cars. I might have got his number at the give way that s/he came to 3 seconds later but they slowed up for maybe a second before shooting off. so sadly can't report it. Just glad no one was on the pavement or they would have been squished.

Re: Red light jumper arrested fined and point on licence

3 September 2015 - 9:44pm
Different in Sweden. My old boss in my old job caught speeding several times over a few trips to Sweden. He got the letter from the Swedish police/system and filled in the details including his home address then they let him off because he's not from Sweden.

Re: Red light jumper arrested fined and point on licence

3 September 2015 - 9:24pm
jezer wrote:I assume they take the same stance with motorists?

Absolutely.

I know someone who had the cops call to his office in the afternoon because a pedestrian claimed he, while driving, had not given way at a pedestrian crossing. My friend swears it was a very marginal call; the pedestrian hadn't quite reached the crossing when my friend drove over it.

He was offered a multi-hundred Euros fine or a driving course. As he was finishing his contract and returning to the UK he choose neither and simply left the country.

Years later, while transferring flights at Frankfurt, the passport control officer beckoned him into an interview room and he was relieved of several hundred Euros.

They don't mess about.

Re: Red light jumper arrested fined and point on licence

3 September 2015 - 6:50pm
How daft is that? If it IS the law that cyclists get 5 seconds of grace, getting bikes away first IS fine, but its not.

Al

Re: Red light jumper arrested fined and point on licence

3 September 2015 - 6:18pm
al_yrpal wrote:Actually, this was the fourteen year old son of my friend in Augsburg. He jumped the red light by three seconds on his bike and was arrested by the cops who stopped all the traffic. He was fined 100 Euros and now has one penalty point on his driving licence which he hasnt got yet because he is too young to drive. Just shows how seriously this sort of behavior is taken in Germany.

Al

very strange. You can imagine the scenario - boy keeps on doing this or other and then later applies for his driving license and immediately gets a ban very silly German logic. Its about time that the lights allowed cyclists to be on their way before motor vehicles? 5 seconds enough to turn right?

Re: And the Bus driver said....

3 September 2015 - 5:51pm
jezer wrote:Dreadful conduct from a so called professional driver. At the very least he should face retraining, and perhaps he should reconsider his future career.
But he won't and he won't most likely.Because victim blaming on UK roads is down to a fine art,if you're a cyclist it's you fault,because you're a cyclist.
That is the status quo.

Re: Red light jumper arrested fined and point on licence

3 September 2015 - 5:43pm
Maybe they awarded the points in expectation of his driving in the future .......................... so if the cyclist had been a one legged one eyed severely crippled person incapable of driving a car but still guilty of cycling through a red light, he'd have received an even larger fine?

Re: Red light jumper arrested fined and point on licence

3 September 2015 - 5:20pm
Good oh on the fine - it is a great pity that our traffic cops (where they still exists) and magistrates aren't more strict for all traffic offences who ever commits them.

Re: And the Bus driver said....

3 September 2015 - 5:16pm
Dreadful conduct from a so called professional driver. At the very least he should face retraining, and perhaps he should reconsider his future career.

Re: Red light jumper arrested fined and point on licence

3 September 2015 - 5:08pm
I assume they take the same stance with motorists?

Re: And the Bus driver said....

3 September 2015 - 5:03pm
brumster wrote:I didn't mention the solid double white centre line did I? The car coming in the other direction made it unsafe IMO especially given the length of the bus - sadly we all see cases of careless / dangerous driving on the road everyday by a minority drivers - What disturbs me most is he said I should have got on the pavement to allow him past.

No,that's illegal,and even if it's a shared use pavement it's your prerogative whether you use it or not.

I'd suggest he gave you all this flannel because he simply can't accept he's in the wrong,which is a very bad standpoint for a professional PSV driver who's passengers safety should be foremost,a very bad standpoint indeed IMO.

Red light jumper arrested fined and point on licence

3 September 2015 - 4:58pm
Actually, this was the fourteen year old son of my friend in Augsburg. He jumped the red light by three seconds on his bike and was arrested by the cops who stopped all the traffic. He was fined 100 Euros and now has one penalty point on his driving licence which he hasnt got yet because he is too young to drive. Just shows how seriously this sort of behavior is taken in Germany.

Al

Re: The folder revelation and results so far

3 September 2015 - 4:14pm
Have done a couple of 100k audaxes on my Reach, and that was with straight bars, no problem and the suspension probably helped.

Re: And the Bus driver said....

3 September 2015 - 3:33pm
reohn2 wrote:brumster
The bus driver either overtook you safely or didn't.
If you felt your safety was threatened by the close proximity of a large HGV(bus) then it was an unsafe manoeuvre end of.
If the bus driver thinks his passengers convenience is more important than your life and limb he's mistaken.

I didn't mention the solid double white centre line did I? The car coming in the other direction made it unsafe IMO especially given the length of the bus - sadly we all see cases of careless / dangerous driving on the road everyday by a minority drivers - What disturbs me most is he said I should have got on the pavement to allow him past.

Re: National Cycle to Work day

3 September 2015 - 2:28pm
geocycle wrote:Hope you awarded yourself a free breakfast!
I'm a chef!

Re: National Cycle to Work day

3 September 2015 - 2:15pm
fossala wrote:gaz wrote:fossala wrote:...Today is my day off...
+1, clearly bad planning on the part of the organisers .
To be fair I write the rota. I can only blame myself.

Hope you awarded yourself a free breakfast!

Re: National Cycle to Work day

3 September 2015 - 2:14pm
gaz wrote:fossala wrote:...Today is my day off...
+1, clearly bad planning on the part of the organisers .
To be fair I write the rota. I can only blame myself.

Re: National Cycle to Work day

3 September 2015 - 2:13pm
fossala wrote:...Today is my day off...
+1, clearly bad planning by the organisers .

Re: National Cycle to Work day

3 September 2015 - 2:09pm
TrevA wrote:Also, seems a strange time of year to have it. The weather was decidedly chilly on this morning's commute.
I agree. It's also the first day back for Norfolk schools, so I suspect fewer people cycled today than usual in order to make sure Little Johnny/Janey got to school on time for his/her first day, although I did spot at least one mother-with-nervous-children who seemed to be taking their first ride to a new school.

That combined with the lack of any resources and their recent faux-pas to lead our local cycling campaign not to promote it much this year. It was much better as part of Bike Week IMO when we did stuff like "commuter challenge" time trials between a suburb and an employment area by cycle, bus and car... but then Bike Week seems to have lost its way the last year or two and seems mainly a source of group event insurance rather than a real programme of events.

However, BBC Radio Norfolk did cover Cycle To Work Day, so I spoke to them live just before 9am and an edited recorded interview may be broadcast in the 4-6pm show. I did try to get someone who cycles to work (rather than me, who cycles for work to get to appointments and travel links) but everyone who I asked needed to be at work before 9am, of course! I'm very blessed that the co-op supports cycling and lets me out for a few hours to support it.

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