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Re: Gas Cartridge Availability

14 June 2015 - 7:39pm
jamesgilbert wrote:khain wrote:When I toured France last year I didn't see a single screw-in type cartridge and ended up using a spirit stove. You might be able to get the screw type in outdoor shops but I didn't see any of those. The other canister type can be bought in just about any supermarket though.

All Decathlon stores will stock the screw-in type, as will any other outdoor shops. I also frequently see them for sale in supermarkets, campsite shops, etc. The Decathlon stores tend to be outside of town centres, so you may be able to plan your route in or out of towns to go past one.

@HarryD, for future reference, the Carcassonne Decathlon is here http://www.decathlon.fr/fr/store?store_id=PS_114
That's a great tip. There's plenty of Decathlon stores in France and Spain. Seen loads already.

Re: which pump and outline spares?

14 June 2015 - 7:36pm
beeb wrote:Thanks guys for the advice -good advice- yes it was ortliebs afraid predictive text on the tablet. Do any of you use locktite on the threads of the outliebs?

In over a decade of use I've never had a single nut come loose nor have I lost a hook insert. Personally I wouldn't bother but I don't think it would do any harm.

Re: Gas Cartridge Availability

14 June 2015 - 7:31pm
jamesgilbert wrote:khain wrote:When I toured France last year I didn't see a single screw-in type cartridge and ended up using a spirit stove. You might be able to get the screw type in outdoor shops but I didn't see any of those. The other canister type can be bought in just about any supermarket though.

All Decathlon stores will stock the screw-in type, as will any other outdoor shops. I also frequently see them for sale in supermarkets, campsite shops, etc. The Decathlon stores tend to be outside of town centres, so you may be able to plan your route in or out of towns to go past one.

@HarryD, for future reference, the Carcassonne Decathlon is here http://www.decathlon.fr/fr/store?store_id=PS_114
+1 - I ended up resorting to Decathlon in Germany last year where there are not that many outdoor stores although Karstadt Sports (found in most large towns) often have Coleman fit cartridges. The pierce style are being phased out everywhere, I'm sure I read somewhere that Calor were likely to adopt the existing screw standard at some point but I guess an adapter wouldn't be a bad bit of kit to have!

Re: eurovelo 1

14 June 2015 - 6:58pm
Thank you,thank you, for the replies. I was almost giving up. Now going to explore what I can. Since posting I have been looking at any proposed route toget from Faro airport along the coast to Spain...and bin having kittens: it looks like a racetrack(with crossings that invite drivers to overtake and cut you up). Am really beginning to dread the ride-thru: a maze o roads,no locals who cycle,no spoken Portugese(on my part). It's bad enough to get directions in England without the additional strain of a melee of roads...and racing cars(?)Of course I want to break into the interior asap. then,maybe,I can relax. This bit o my tour I'm beginning to dread,and I haven't left my chair yet. (Sometimes,when touring abroad,I just catch a train with bike out o complex joints to a small village station. It's easy to pedal into a city,but stressful getting out...unless you get on the big roads!!

Re: which pump and outline spares?

14 June 2015 - 6:42pm
beeb wrote:Looking for advice - which touring pump to carry - carried one we got at also last year and it quite frankly was rubbish - let more out than I could put in - also does anyone carry spares when they are touring worth outliers - if so which bits? Thanks all advice gratefully received. Beeb
the last bit, do you mean touring with Ortliebs? If so the answer is check before you go its all in order but don't bother with taking stuff - highly unlikely you'll need them.

As for the pump - I ended up buying a Lezyne whilst I was away last year after a pump incident. Mine has the hose but no gauge and the couple of times I've needed it, it has worked great.
I have several Topeak pumps but I find them clumsy and heavy.

Re: Touring in Denmark

14 June 2015 - 6:35pm
jaz wrote:Hi all. Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere but Regina Lines emailed me today to say that the first sailing of the new Harwich-Esbjerg ferry is scheduled for March 12th 2016. Fingers crossed...
+1

Re: which pump and outline spares?

14 June 2015 - 5:41pm
I've also got the Lezyne pump currently the hp version but might get the hv one for the touring bike, only issue I've ever had is that it occasionally unscrewed the valve core until I decided to tighten and lock tight most of mine in place.

Re: Loire a Velo: biking bigger cities?

14 June 2015 - 5:32pm
dianatashjian51 wrote:Hello! I'm a fairly new cyclist and still not very comfortable biking with lots of motor traffic. We'll be biking on and near the Loire a Velo and would like to spend time in the bigger cities (Angers, Saumur, Tours, Amboise, Blois, etc.) but was wondering if there's an alternative to biking when we get near the big cities. Does it make sense to hop on a bus near the outskirts and ride into the city that way? With our bikes? Do we leave our bikes on the outskirts, go visit the city, and then come back for our bikes? Or am I being too nervous? Any ideas or suggestions would be very welcome. Thanks!

You have absolutely nothing to worry about. All of the cities are easy cycling and like someone else said, they are mostly the size of large towns. The Loire a Velo is a very nice route and you'll enjoy your city cycling experiences. Most of the cities have very local campsites. The French motorists are very accommodating and there's no need to be anxious.

Re: Gas Cartridge Availability

14 June 2015 - 5:28pm
jamesgilbert wrote:
All Decathlon stores will stock the screw-in type, as will any other outdoor shops.

Is there a Garmin POI file by any chance for Decathlons? Strikes me that it would be very useful when wandering around France.

I wouldn't be overly surprised if there wasn't judging by their at times wonky web site.

Re: Gas Cartridge Availability

14 June 2015 - 5:24pm
jamesgilbert wrote:- No valve, but a dimple that is pierced by the stove connector (dangerous and being phased out in most places - you can't remove the stove until the gas has all been used)

You can remove the stove actually if you buy an adaptor which converts them to take a screw on stove.

I've done it.

How dangerous are those things actually?

I've never heard of an incident.

I can't help but think that it's far safer to use one of those than to cook inside a tent/porch which I know some folk do. I never would.

Replies/alternative views welcomed.

Re: which pump and outline spares?

14 June 2015 - 5:20pm
Yes, the Lezyne has a screw-in connector but it's positive and leak-proof. Also it has ABS ............... air bleed system.
ie the connector has a button that you ether press as you unscrew, or press deliberately. This bleeds out of the hose and pump, but not out of the tyre. By doing this, the connector unscrews very easily.

I've had a few different connectors on a few different pumps, both track pumps and hand pumps. All the connectors I've ever used have released some air out of the tyre as you disconnect, but the Lezyne ABS system leaks NOTHING at all.

Re: Gas Cartridge Availability

14 June 2015 - 3:46pm
khain wrote:When I toured France last year I didn't see a single screw-in type cartridge and ended up using a spirit stove. You might be able to get the screw type in outdoor shops but I didn't see any of those. The other canister type can be bought in just about any supermarket though.

All Decathlon stores will stock the screw-in type, as will any other outdoor shops. I also frequently see them for sale in supermarkets, campsite shops, etc. The Decathlon stores tend to be outside of town centres, so you may be able to plan your route in or out of towns to go past one.

@HarryD, for future reference, the Carcassonne Decathlon is here http://www.decathlon.fr/fr/store?store_id=PS_114

Re: Gas Cartridge Availability

14 June 2015 - 3:37pm
How do the Aerosol style cans that you can use in the cheap "family camping stoves" from go outdoors etc. fit into this picture? Can they be used with any of the "normal" camping stoves?

Re: Gas Cartridge Availability

14 June 2015 - 2:42pm
Take one of these with you http://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/ ... aptor-p454

Then you can use either the Camping Gaz push fit or the screw on when you can find them.

Re: Gas Cartridge Availability

14 June 2015 - 2:36pm
I took my paraffin stove this year because of such scares. I decided to look in one supermarket for meths and canisters.
It had cheap meths and screw in (EN 417)cannisters and that was in a small town supermarket.
I could have hit a "one off" .

Re: Gas Cartridge Availability

14 June 2015 - 2:31pm
When I toured France last year I didn't see a single screw-in type cartridge and ended up using a spirit stove. You might be able to get the screw type in outdoor shops but I didn't see any of those. The other canister type can be bought in just about any supermarket though.

Re: which pump and outline spares?

14 June 2015 - 2:28pm
I second the Lezyne pump, though would go for one without the gauge. The Topeak ones are highly rated too but the build quality doesn't look in the same class as Lezyne. Screw-in pumps are much better in my opinion.

Re: Gas Cartridge Availability

14 June 2015 - 1:41pm
2 years ago we spent rather a lot of time in Carcasonne looking for a threaded gas cartridge without success. Lots of the Camping Gaz CV Plus click-on cartridges though. Can't remember seeing any of the dimple top pierceable ones - but we weren't exactly trying.

We did find some threaded resealable ones at a builders merchants but they were narrow & more suitable for blowtorches. As we had an MSR Pocket Rocket we needed one with a wider & more stable base. So we bought a new stove, Comping Gaz twister burner (23Euros?) with the EasyClic Plus click-on fitting & a CV Plus cartridge from the next door hypermarket.

From our experience you may be better off going for the Camping Gaz clip-on type.

Re: which pump and outline spares?

14 June 2015 - 12:54pm
Get one of these.
I guarantee you won't be disappointed.

http://www.ctcshop.org.uk/lezyne-micro- ... ith-gauge/
Mine will get my tyres to 120psi.

You can get the high volume version if you don't want the high pressure version.

Re: Transport to South France

14 June 2015 - 12:02pm
Is the bike being taken as a bike, or packed into a bag smaller than 90cm x 120cm?

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