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Re: Panniers etc on Ferries & how to have safe panniers

25 August 2014 - 8:29am
I've never had panniers interfered with on a ferry.
I doubt that there are many opportunist thieves hanging around on a ferry car deck - one would have to rifle through the bags in front of witnesses and cctv.
Everybody will have boarded the ferry with the intention of getting to their destination.
Apart from visibly attractive items like GPS devices, money and passports, I would leave everything else on the bike.
I would lock the bike on the off chance that it could be loaded into a conveniently parked van - but the chances of that are very slim.
I wonder what the chances are of the crew holding up the unloading of a ferry in the search for a lost bike

Re: Budapest to Black Sea...EV6

25 August 2014 - 7:36am
St Nazaire - Mulhouse was 643 miles. Wien - 1335 miles. And to Budapest - 1550 miles. Hope that helps.

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

25 August 2014 - 6:23am
something that hasnt been said but prob should be. You said in another thread on "any one use trailers" that you are 17 stone. Well I am also that and 6'3" That means I am about 2 stone over weight. Having to haul that extra weight for any time is no fun and limits the distance I can comfortably do. Hauling it up and down lots of hills is a no-no I think.

Re: Santander hotel

24 August 2014 - 11:27pm
When you arrive in Santander cross the road from the ferry to the Municpal Tourist Office (Oficina de Turismo) in the park at the far end - Jardines de Pereda. In October open from Monday to Friday from 09:00 to 19:00, Saturday from 10:00 to 19:00 and Sundays from 10:00 to 14:00. Ask for an accommodation list and city plan, get the staff to show you where two or three places not too far away and cycle round and inquire at reception - take you 30-45 mins. I do this in most cities in Spain. The street map helps you get out the next day.

Or you can use this site Infohostal.es for comparing establishments, price and location. I find it very reliable and a good source for accommodation across Spain.

The regional tourist office is located two streets further back in the market at 4 Hernán Cortés, (Mercado del Este).

Re: Panniers etc on Ferries & how to have safe panniers

24 August 2014 - 10:44pm
My bikes have been abroad three times on ferries and from memory they were left on a low level deck on channel crossings. Pannier bags were left on apart from personal stuff for in the cabin and a bungy cord secured them to a convenient rail. I can remember one return crossing into Portsmouth where a side door was opened as the bow doors were opened and a fellow travellers helmet was blown across the deck.

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

24 August 2014 - 10:27pm
theDaveB wrote:It's Lucozade Sport if it makes a difference -

Water, Glucose Syrup, Citric Acid, Acidity Regulator (Sodium Citrate), Stabiliser (Acacia Gum), Preservative (Potassium Sorbate), Antioxidant (Ascorbic Acid, Sweeteners (Aspartame, Acesulfame K), Flavouring, Vitamins (Niacin, Panthothenic Acid, B6, B12), Colour (Beta-Carotene). Contains a source of Phenylalanine

http://www.lucozadesport.com/products/sport/

Dave
Sounds fairly toxic to me. A pint of bitter probably healthier. That's what I'd have if it came down to a choice.

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

24 August 2014 - 10:14pm
It's Lucozade Sport if it makes a difference -

Water, Glucose Syrup, Citric Acid, Acidity Regulator (Sodium Citrate), Stabiliser (Acacia Gum), Preservative (Potassium Sorbate), Antioxidant (Ascorbic Acid, Sweeteners (Aspartame, Acesulfame K), Flavouring, Vitamins (Niacin, Panthothenic Acid, B6, B12), Colour (Beta-Carotene). Contains a source of Phenylalanine

http://www.lucozadesport.com/products/sport/

Dave

Re: Santander hotel

24 August 2014 - 9:38pm
BeeKeeper wrote
We found getting a hotel which could take bikes in Santander a bit tricky.

A few years ago I booked a room at the Hotel Cabo Mayor in Santander but when I arrived they flatly refused to allow me to keep my Roberts anywhere in the building and insisted I should leave it in the bike rack in the bus station opposite. This I refused to do so I left and found another hotel nearby (forgotten the name of it) where they were happy to put my bike in a storeroom. I was still charged for a night at the Cabo Mayor as I had not given them 24 hours notice of cancellation. Best to check that the hotel you choose will take bikes.

Re: Panniers etc on Ferries & how to have safe panniers

24 August 2014 - 9:08pm
Thanks everyone. Most reassuring. I have put gear cable wire in a loop on the panniers to act as opportunist deterrent, with the padlock cable through them and round seat tube. That just stays on like that until we need to take panniers off. Chris's are more easily removed than mine though.
Yes valuables always go every where with me when ever I am traveling by car, foot, canoe or bike ) So far so good, keep fingers crossed!

Reivers Way

24 August 2014 - 7:42pm
I'm planning to cycle the Reivers Way from Carlisle to Tynemouth next month as a solo ride - not sad just interested in the challenge. Can anyone recommend good stopping points. Will be riding a hybrid and am bike fit but not into heroic distances.
Thanks in advance.

Re: Santander hotel

24 August 2014 - 2:21pm
We stayed at this place on our last night of our trip this year. http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Revi ... abria.html nothing special but convenient for the ferry. There is a good restaurant across the street. See our journal here: https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/pag ... 70361&v=12
The Picos is more touristy I think. We found it full and the bloke behind the counter tried very hard to get us to go to a place owned by the same company miles away at twice the price. We found getting a hotel which could take bikes in Santander a bit tricky.

Santander hotel

24 August 2014 - 1:26pm
We are on the ferry from Portsmouth in early October, and plan to stay the first night in Santander. Any recommendations for hotel?
I see the HOSPEDAJE MAGALLANES, MAGALLANES, 22, 39007, is recommended, also the Picos de Europa. Any other thoughts?
Need a twin room, somewhere to put the bikes.....

Re: Panniers etc on Ferries & how to have safe panniers

24 August 2014 - 1:21pm
Another point, it is worth putting the chain on the biggest ring at the back, ie the one inside, so the deraillieur is in as much as possible so it might not be bashed if the bike falls or has something put against it. That is the most likely occurence in terms of a mishap on a ferry.

Re: My first tour (I didn't make it)

24 August 2014 - 12:29pm
theDaveB wrote:.....
16 bottles of lucozade (figured 4 per day) - I can't drink water while cycling it makes me feel sick
.....Lucozade is just empty calories and bad for you, esp if you are over weight at all. I wouldn't touch it at all, least of all carry 16 bottles of the stuff!
I'd deal with your water problem - just get into the habit of drinking water you will get used to it in no time! Just normal quantities i.e when you feel thirsty (and tea, coffee, beer etc.)- there's been a load of nonsense about "hydration" mainly coming from companies selling drink products.

PS "the ingredients of Lucozade Original Energy were as of 2013: Carbonated Water, Glucose Syrup, Citric Acid, Lactic Acid, Flavouring, Preservatives, Caffeine, Antioxidant, Colour" i.e. nothing you can't do without (except the water) and nothing good for you.
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Re: Budapest to Black Sea...EV6

24 August 2014 - 12:09pm
Has anyone seen a break down of the mileage for this route by country or between major waypoints? I'd be interested in doing saying Budapest to St Nazaire with the kids at some point. Doubt I'd have enough leave to get them all the way from,Constancia.

Re: Panniers etc on Ferries & how to have safe panniers

24 August 2014 - 11:42am
Leave them on, they will offer some protection for the bike, in my experience the crew aren't too bothered how they handle the bikes

Re: Weight of total gear for a 4 week tour in France

24 August 2014 - 10:15am
nmnm wrote:For my France summer camping month, I had just under 10kg incl panniers and clothes and shoes, quite heavy considering I had no cooking gear, spare cables or spare spokes, and only one spare inner tube (never punctured a conti GP 4 season!).

That old thermarest mentioned may be half a kilo heavier than a £38 300g multimat. These tube air mats are comfier, I think, though not as strong, and it irks to replace things that work fine too of course, so I just mention it in case you were about to spend more to save a smaller weight!

Talking of heavy air mats, I've just spotted Exped's newest product, an awesome 12cm deep, which weighs in at a smidge over a kilo - might be tempted -looks awfully comfy!! Available in an even heavier insulated vs as well if you venture out in winter...
http://www.exped.com/en/product-categor ... mat-12-lxw

Re: Panniers etc on Ferries & how to have safe panniers

24 August 2014 - 10:14am
Typical ferry shot earlier this year, Roscoff to Plymouth. There were a similar number on the other side of the deck, I'd have no security worries.

Re: Panniers etc on Ferries & how to have safe panniers

24 August 2014 - 10:07am
Bulky items stay with bike, valuables come with me... no trouble with this simple system in all the years I've been doing it.

Re: Panniers etc on Ferries & how to have safe panniers

24 August 2014 - 9:40am
I think the pacsafe system is a bit over the top. They cost upwards of £50 each and from memory weigh something like 2kg.

I too have left panniers on. If worried about panniers being removed, then zip ties could be a quick, cheap temporary solution. Also avoid putting any desirable objects in easy to open side pockets.

Personally, I wouldn't worry.

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