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Re: Antwerp to Amsterdam

27 July 2015 - 3:54pm
Hi folks

Not exactly on topic, but I'm planning a trip form Harwich to the Hook, cycling down the coast and coming back from Dunkirk to Dover. The Dutch and Belgian map posted on here were very useful The one thing I'm a bit concerned about knowing how big a city and port Rotterdam is, how easy is it to get from the Hook to the southern side of Rotterdam to continue down the coast.

Thanks and regards

Iain

Re: 10 days in August. Where should I go?

27 July 2015 - 3:01pm
Thank you again - I'll keep an eye open for the cidre.

Re: Via Francigena

27 July 2015 - 2:56pm
Anne Mustoe's excellent book, "A Bike Ride, 12,000 miles around the World" is worth a look, she follows various Roman roads from London to Rome and onwards. This might be of interest and doubtless there will be some correlation with pilgrim routes.

Re: Via Francigena

27 July 2015 - 2:38pm
Have you tried cyclingeurope.org site? Click on eurovelo 5 and then index of posts or route planning,they both mention the route(if you haven't looked there already of course )

Re: Via Francigena

27 July 2015 - 1:38pm
Partly. This spring I followed the route of a Dutch abbot, called Emo from the beginning of the 13th century. He went from the North of The Netherlands to Rome. From Pavia to Rome he followed the Via Francigena.
He wrote a very short travelogue of his trip to Rome and back. A dutch historian reconstructed his route and wrote a book about it.
Using this reconstruction I designed a cycle route.

I'm still working on all the results, but at the moment The following is available:

A GPS-file, containing the route with improvements I made (also with some comments for navigation);
Heightprofiles (based on the original design, but will hardly change).

The website I made can be found here (only in Dutch, but GoogleTranslate is your friend). The maps included in the site, are not up-to-date, but that's only for small parts.

Another source for the Italian part is this. An Italian site, which seems to be complete now. I used it this winter, but it was incomplete then.

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

27 July 2015 - 12:59pm
Regarding the weather, you have my sympathies! We're used to mixed conditions even in summertime, but the wind and rain at the moment is unusual (honest ).
Edit: just read some of your blog. You're buying bottled water? Tap water is safe in the UK, and it's free. Ask for it in restaurants and they usually don't charge, but don't let them add ice or lemon etc as this gives them a reason to charge.

Via Francigena

27 July 2015 - 11:35am
Do any members have any experience of cycling the Canterbury to Rome Pilgrim Route by touring bike. Any references to route plans, mountain profiles etc would be appreciated.

Where to stay with bikes in Rutland?

27 July 2015 - 5:39am
Hi all,

No idea quite where this fitted so I'll try here. No doubt it can be moved if needed. I'm looking at - next year now - loading the bikes up on the car rack and going off for a week, stopping in various places and doing little local tourist type rides. One of the first places I like the look of trying is Rutland Water. I think it's about 25mi round and if you're spending time taking in the sights and taking photos that should fill a full day so if possible I'd rather have somewhere to stay overnight. Are there such beasts as B&B's around there (or anyway else really come to that) that might have provisions for locking up bikes overnight? Don't fancy leaving them on the unsecured car carrier all night if at all possible.

I've looked on the Independent Hostels site but that brought up no results within 15mi of Whitwell so I'm guessing there's none of those local.

Re: Specialized Awol

26 July 2015 - 10:22pm
They're announcing it mid August, which can't come soon enough just going to be a pain trying to get hold of one!

Re: Specialized Awol

26 July 2015 - 10:17pm
They don't seem to get discounted so I'd wait for the better spec'. Have they announced the 2016 spec' yet?

Re: Best airline for bike travel - Lufthansa ?

26 July 2015 - 9:34pm
Therealsouthstander wrote:This is why I've said I rate Lufthansa. - No bag or box required ,can't see them dropping a bike that's not boxed !!

While I agree they tend to handle naked bikes with more care I have seen a bike picked up and swung by a handler onto the top of a trailer full of bags only for momentum to carry it across and fall off the other side.

Specialized Awol

26 July 2015 - 9:11pm
Shall I buy the Specialized Awol now or wait two months for a better spec at the same price? I'm doing the London to Amsterdam via Dover-Calais in September but I can do that on my hybrid I already have? Just wanted to get your experience and views, thank you!

Re: Best airline for bike travel - Lufthansa ?

26 July 2015 - 6:54pm
greyhead wrote:Interested to read of the OP's experience with Lufthansa as I have been sorely tempted to use them to get from Brum to Frankfurt or Munich. I tend to use the various ferries to start and finish my annual continental tours but flying directly to Frankfurt (for say a Mosel or Romantica Road tour) would save a significant chunk of time and add extra possibilities regarding the trip. The faff of bagging or boxing the bike has put me off flying so the idea of wheeling the bike fully assembled up to the check-in appeals greatly. I have phoned Lufthansa and they coinfirm that this is their policy and they claim to have a special place in the hold for bikes. But, but, but ............. I still can't bring myself to trust the baggage handlers. Damage on the outbound flight could really spoil the trip although maybe worth taking the risk on the return leg.



This is some of the route I took and throughly recommend it.

Frankfurt airport - Mainz - Koblenz

Koblenz along the Mossel to Zell

Zell along the Mossel to Trier

Trier - Luxembourg City - Metz

Metz - Sarvene

Sarvene - Strasbourg - Colmar

Colmar -Basel

Train from Basel to Baden Baden

Baden Baden through part of the Black Forest to Heidelberg

Heidelberg - Frankfurt Airport

652.7 miles

Slept in my tent every night and the first 2 days it was 42 Deg C in the shade..The locals on the Mossel were saying it's the hottest its ever been in the region...Was drinking 15 litres of water per day.


Was a brilliant tour

Re: Best airline for bike travel - Lufthansa ?

26 July 2015 - 6:46pm
foxyrider wrote:I found Lufthansa very good last year, Swissair are very good too.

As has been pointed out though, it's the baggage handlers that are the potential problem on any airline - i've been sat on the plane and watched as my bike case dropped 2m from a conveyer to the ground - I think that was at Berlin. Frankfurt is Lufthansa's main hub so they have more control there so there may be fewer issues there.



This is why I've said I rate Lufthansa. - No bag or box required ,can't see them dropping a bike that's not boxed !!

Re: Best airline for bike travel - Lufthansa ?

26 July 2015 - 4:31pm
Interested to read of the OP's experience with Lufthansa as I have been sorely tempted to use them to get from Brum to Frankfurt or Munich. I tend to use the various ferries to start and finish my annual continental tours but flying directly to Frankfurt (for say a Mosel or Romantica Road tour) would save a significant chunk of time and add extra possibilities regarding the trip. The faff of bagging or boxing the bike has put me off flying so the idea of wheeling the bike fully assembled up to the check-in appeals greatly. I have phoned Lufthansa and they coinfirm that this is their policy and they claim to have a special place in the hold for bikes. But, but, but ............. I still can't bring myself to trust the baggage handlers. Damage on the outbound flight could really spoil the trip although maybe worth taking the risk on the return leg.

Re: Caen Normandy cycle tour route?

26 July 2015 - 2:52pm
Yes, its just the cycle track on the bridge which is horrid. We cycled on the bridge footpath which is also horrid, badly maintained but safer, and the route into Le Havre heavily populated by Poids Lourds on narrow roads to the port.

Al

Cheap and Cheerful 1-2 Week Getaway - Ideas?

26 July 2015 - 12:36pm
Hi All,

I hope this finds you all well. As i have done quite a few times previously (and always got a great response) - has anyone got any ideas on tour destinations for this time of year? I have just been made redundant and think a couple of weeks on the bicycle is in order to get my mind right. To give a bit of background:- I have toured the Trans Am in the US, toured the Outer Hebrides, toured across Morocco earlier this year - so consider myself fairly competent doing around 60-100 miles a day. I like to travel with my tent, stove and amenities, so prefer OPEN country with as cheap (£10 a day ) a lifestyle as possible. Also, I am riding a King of Mercia Mercian road touring bike, so half decent standard of roads is ideal.

My initial thoughts are:

- To ride down to Dover (from my home in Greater London), jump on the ferry, and try and make it as far as I can south (cheapest suggested route preferred). Ideally making it down to a port in the southern regions of Europe to ferry my way back?

- Staying local and touring the UK (I thought touring the Outer Hebrides was just stunning), so potentially jumping on a ferry to tour Ireland, Northern Ireland and Wales?

- Getting a cheap flight (like I did for Morocco in January) to a 'CTC hidden gem' destination and gathering advice on here about a potential route? Has anyone done Romania, Bulgaria, Lithuania region?

As always, all your help and advice is gratefully received!!! I'd love to get on the road in the next few days (which I realise isn't ideal for the cheap flight option), so prompt responses would be amazing.

Thanks for your time, as always...and HAPPY TOURING!!!

Cheers,
Max

Re: Caen Normandy cycle tour route?

26 July 2015 - 12:28pm
Hi Terry Macca

I used the BF Caen cycle route as the basis/inspiration for my tour last September but modified as follows:
Ouistreham (n), Pegasus Bridge, Beuvron en Auge, Trouville(n), Honfleur, Pont Audemer(n), Conches en Ouche(n), Rugles, St Evroult Notre Dame du Bois(n), Vimoutiers, Livarot, Le Mesnil-Durand(n), Ouistreham(n). Overnight stays denoted (n).
Unfortunately I can't give advice on campsites as I use B&Bs, wherever possible finding interesting Chambres d'Hôte (to practice my French) or small provincial hotels. Also, as you may guess from my username, I take a more leisurly approach - 7 nights - with plenty of sightseeing and pottering around - total mileage 230.

I used the late ferry to Ouistreham and so spent the first night there and similarly the last night, taking the early morning ferry back to Pompey. I took the coast road between Trouville and Honfleur (rather than BF's inland route) which I found a bit of an undulating slog (and not many views of the sea). From Honfleur (which I knew from my sailing days - very picturesque and touristy) I took the riverside cycle path along the Seine which runs under the Pont de Normandie. A very dramatic bridge which I would hardly call horrid (maybe this refered to cycling over it?) although the actual cycle path to Berville-sur-Mer I found a bit rough for my tourer bike. I enjoyed the cycle route which broadly follows the River Risle on quiet country roads and was well sign posted. The rest of the route was mainly improvised to fit in with my B&Bs and mainly through quiet rural back lanes where possible. I also followed an off-road cycle path from Vimoutiers to Livarot which was not paved (rather grassy I seem to recall) but OK for my bike.

I'm sure you and your son are younger and fitter than me but I feel that attempting this for a first tour, especially camping and with mountain bikes, is very ambitious.
Previously I have also done Ouistreham, Pegasus, Arromanches, Bayeux, Carentan, St Mere Eglise, St Vaast and Cherbourg and I agree with al-yrpal that this would make an interesting trip if your can alter your return ferry booking.

I've also done a modified version of BF's St Malo round trip which you may wish to consider next time!!

Re: visit the south of england with my family

26 July 2015 - 11:55am
Hello thank you for these renseignements.milles excuses j was out of internet thus impossible to answer you, saddened.
We wish to make maxi 600km with one made uneven not too high all the same
We wish to make of the natural and cultural bike has the time. To see landscapes you of the villages authentic with a buckle(loop) thus has to leave Dover or to ailleur if you find l more interesting idea. Very happy to read you a traveler has bike

Re: have bicycle will travel?

26 July 2015 - 11:34am
mercalia wrote:some times u want to smile?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33667451

I fully expect to be in that queue on the European Bike Express coach in a few weeks from now. I admire the French for many things, but not the way they conduct industrial disputes. They attack the innocent. Oh well, we have to take these things in our stride, I suppose.

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