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Re: panniers panniers panniers???

13 November 2014 - 10:34pm
If it's ortlieb vs carradice I doubt anyone is gonna change anyone's minds if they're already set on one or the other. That said, jackets can be breathable and let water in the end, but personally I want my panniers 100% waterproof - so I tend towards ortlieb. At least you know where you are then and aren't second guessing when your stuff will start getting wet.

Eurovelo route 15 - please comment on our plans!

13 November 2014 - 9:31pm
Hi

Two of us intend to ride most of this route in late spring next year. We've already booked the time off work and have 3 weeks from 13th April.

We're looking at getting a plane with our bikes to Basel and then riding northwest along the Rhine (route 15) through to Holland and either getting a plane back with our bikes from Schipol or riding on to the hook of Holland and getting a ferry back to the UK.

The only thing solid so far is our time off work has been booked. This will be my first tour outside the UK and my second ever long ride (I rode from Bodmin to Bristol in March this year and loved it).

If any of you good folks have some comments, questions or constructive criticism please do post your thoughts here. I spent a lot of time reading about the adventures people on here have had an would very much appreciate anything that is mentioned.

Thanks

Gareth

Schwalbe Big Apple Plus 26"

13 November 2014 - 9:12pm
Well, its finally been done - I've fitted something other than Marathon+ to a bike for the first time in thousands of miles, pleased to report it has been a revelation

Fitted to my '98 Specialized MTB that was purchased for a Jogle trip they are fantastic, softens the ride, they roll faster and being Plus/+ they should keep the P***ture fairy at bay too

A big thumbs up for RoseBikes too, delivered in two days well packed and very keenly priced once you offset the £7.60 delivery charge by buying other stuff

Re: Oban to Stonehaven

13 November 2014 - 9:05pm
Something like this is worth considering: http://cycle.travel/map/journey/9544



In brief: head towards Fort William making use of the new cycle path, then cross on the ferry to Ardgour and back again to Fort Bill. Continue up the Great Glen (usual provisos apply about track surface quality), then climb on the B roads on the east side. From there it's much easier to wend your way to Stonehaven on quiet roads than it would be direct from Oban.

Re: Oban to Stonehaven

13 November 2014 - 8:46pm
Thanks for the reply. I actually live in the North East of Scotland. Just never cycled over the West Coast side of Scotland.

When I said hidden gems I was referring to side roads or good paths to avoid the main roads etc.


andy

Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

13 November 2014 - 6:54pm

My Trek520 and creative rain gear. Outside the cafe in Tennessee I scrounged the bin bag from. Yes, it was very wet and I'd left my nice Goretex 200 miles back. (I think. I never have found it.)

Trail A Bike For Tourer?

13 November 2014 - 5:24pm
The pivot part is a Burley Piccolo fitting but you are right it could be made from an old headset if you can weld the 't' bit that you bolt to the trailer. The plate that wraps round the rack is bolted to an aluminium block that came with the trailer. That then is bolted to a block under the rack which clamps the whole lot together. I have packed it out with rubber air hose to stop any squeaks and rattles but mainly to protect my Surly racks...hc

Edit: If you want more photos just shout

Re: Trail A Bike For Tourer?

13 November 2014 - 4:52pm
That is something like I was imagining. How have you attached the pivot part to the plate. I see there are bolts for a plate under the pannier bars, The pivot bar attached to the plate, is it a set of front forks cut down ? I think I have an idea of using some front forks I have. The inner paer of the forks where the handlebar stem fits into can hold the hitch that normally goes on the seat post.

Re: Trail A Bike For Tourer?

13 November 2014 - 4:18pm
ianpallen wrote:Good point in the weight from swaying. The tag along I will be getting will have the saddle, handlebars and bottom bracket removed. I will be fitting two racks to it for panniers. I will also look into making another more stronger bracket for it. I will see about putting a plate across and bolting it in place for the extra support.
Thanks for the heads up.

Cracking plan! ImageUploadedByTapatalk1415895346.096807.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1415895370.025908.jpg

Part of my plate (obscured) grabs onto the rack stays which are 100mm apart and the outer plate lip is stabilised by the outer-most rack bars. I quite fancy changing it into a trailer once my daughter had finished with it! I'll treat it to a new BMX wheel though....hc

Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

13 November 2014 - 3:11pm
That is a lovely looking bike

Re: Trail A Bike For Tourer?

13 November 2014 - 2:50pm
Heltor Chasca wrote:Good thinking Ian. Clever and simple.

To be the devil's advocate: I was surprised at how much lateral force there was (pressure from the left & right) once my daughter was "on board". We had to come up with a Mark II version to keep the hitch still. It was flexing the rack stays to a point where eventually, through metal fatigue, they would have given up. Just something to check.

That sorted we have had some great trips out. It is also the daily school run transport. Life is tough huh?

Good luck with it................hc


Good point in the weight from swaying. The tag along I will be getting will have the saddle, handlebars and bottom bracket removed. I will be fitting two racks to it for panniers. I will also look into making another more stronger bracket for it. I will see about putting a plate across and bolting it in place for the extra support.
Thanks for the heads up.

Re: Trail A Bike For Tourer?

13 November 2014 - 2:41pm
Good thinking Ian. Clever and simple.

To be the devil's advocate: I was surprised at how much lateral force there was (pressure from the left & right) once my daughter was "on board". We had to come up with a Mark II version to keep the hitch still. It was flexing the rack stays to a point where eventually, through metal fatigue, they would have given up. Just something to check.

That sorted we have had some great trips out. It is also the daily school run transport. Life is tough huh?

Good luck with it................hc

Re: panniers panniers panniers???

13 November 2014 - 2:40pm
foxyrider wrote:They are waterproof not watertight - its easy to confuse the two - Packers are waterproof - wet could get in potentially as the top of the bag is open , Rollers are watertight - in theory, if they are sealed properly no wet can get in (or out).



As you say in theory. In practice I have never repeat never had water get into my Backpackers or Sportspackers. You can count Monsoon Rain in the Far East and weeks of torrential rain in Europe as conditions they have endured.

Re: panniers panniers panniers???

13 November 2014 - 1:27pm
bikepacker wrote:Most of the pannier threads end up being an argument of preference, mainly between Ortlieb and Carradice. Fourteen years ago I swopped my Carradice for Ortliebs after all my gear got soaked (I know all the could have put it in plastic bag replies so don't bother) and would no longer use anything else. Where some posters get bikepackers are not waterproof from I will never know. I tour for around 5 months of the year and have been in some of the most torrential rain known (I was near the Tormalet when it got washed away last year) yet not the slightest hint of a leak.

If you want to see my set up and gear list look on my website.

They are waterproof not watertight - its easy to confuse the two - Packers are waterproof - wet could get in potentially as the top of the bag is open , Rollers are watertight - in theory, if they are sealed properly no wet can get in (or out).

I prefer Rollers as they are so easy to use, no flaps, straps or drawstrings to worry about and i have had instances of flooding washing over my bags - anything less than watertight and the contents would've been floating! I don't double bag for waterproofness but for organization.

Re: panniers panniers panniers???

13 November 2014 - 8:56am
bikepacker wrote:Where some posters get bikepackers are not waterproof from I will never know.
They will let the water in if you come off in a greasy ford, or after hitting a submerged pothole, and leave the bike on its side in the water whilst you inspect your injuries. That's about the only situation.

Re: North Sea route - Rotterdam to Esbjerg

13 November 2014 - 8:18am
The website for the Texel-Vlieland crossing is in Dutch but I had a very helpful response in English when I emailed about using the crossing with recumbent trikes.
We decided that it was a no go on our trikes, very disappointing as I was looking forward to that crossing.
We cycled over the Afsluitdijk instead. A lovely sunny day with a tail wind - easy riding, but the biting insects were a pest!

Re: panniers panniers panniers???

13 November 2014 - 7:52am
Thanks for the post's and ALAN LORD your bike packer page was vet useful thanks.

Re: North Sea route - Rotterdam to Esbjerg

13 November 2014 - 4:45am
Hopping the Dutch Wadden Isles:

Den Helder (mainland) to Texel
- every 1/2 hour;

Texel - Vlieland
- crossing partly by boat, partly by truck.
In high season twice a day, reservation (mail or phone) with bike needed (7 days before), rather expensive (€ 27,- including bike (2014)), but adventurous. Website (only Dutch)

Here a site with a complete overview of al the crossings (just in Dutch)

From every island you can go back to the mainland.
Have fun.

Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

13 November 2014 - 4:29am
My Condor Heritage in China.

Re: panniers panniers panniers???

13 November 2014 - 1:19am
Ortieb back roller changed my life about 20 years ago.
Light,simple and compact (no pocket please) easy to fix (2 seconds) and waterproof.
I'm now in Laos and had hard rain for 2 days,non stop,but no worries..
benoît

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