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Re: Rhine-Moselle short tour, advice needed

26 June 2015 - 8:00pm
Hi Rob

What was the surface like? I'm running 28 tyres on my Hewitt touring bike, hope they will be fine..

Are there any hills of note? Was kinda hoping for some.The route I'm planning doesn't follow the Mosel from Trier to Luxembourg City then on to Metz,hopefully I'll find a few hills to get the heart pumping for a wee while at least..

Re: Suggetsions for food on tour with a tiny budget

26 June 2015 - 6:09pm
I rode to the French Alps and back on this diet.
Breakfast, porridge.
Lunch, baguette with cheeese.
Dinner, Lentil and vegetable stew.
Cooked on a petrol stove. I stopped at a petrol staion, held out my litre can. "De l'essence, si'l vous plait."
"De l'essence, dans cela?"
"Oui, pour la cuisine."
Raised eyebrows, shrug.
One bottle of cheapest wine per day, and tabac a roule.
One tip is to soak the lentils in a bidon whilst underway.
Maybe not the best diet, but I did 100 mpd.

Re: Suggetsions for food on tour with a tiny budget

26 June 2015 - 6:06pm
I have, on many occasions, stopped to pick up stuff dropped from harvest vehicles. I used to cycle through an area with several cabbage farms. At harvest time, they'd be scattered on the road. I felt entirely justified in collecting as many of these hazards as I could get onto my bike. One year I managed 4 cabbages; one in each pannier and two on my rack, held by a bungie net. It may not sound like much of a feat, but they were about nine inches in diameter and heavy, as well. The looks I got, cycling home with my cabbages...

Re: Suggetsions for food on tour with a tiny budget

26 June 2015 - 6:02pm
The first part of your post asks for the cheapest. Is that the overriding factor?

If in rural areas, you could try gleaniing, ie picking up the remnants after industrial style harvesting. Carrots, onions, potatoes, etc. A close eye on the road often finds things dropped off the trucks. Obviously cycling means you travel a lot further to enhance your chances of a find.

Out the back of supermarkets and other shops may be rewarding.

If not fussy then plenty of half eaten pizzas and burgers in an urban environment.

Is this what you meant by cheapest?

Generally things like pasta, noodles, rice and potatoes are cheap and give reasonable energy. Add flavouring, protein and veges as required.

Re: Suggetsions for food on tour with a tiny budget

26 June 2015 - 5:54pm
Vorpal hits on a important point that weight and volume of food are issues.

Beardy, I don't think any of us knows much about nutrition. The assumption was that getting the correct amount of energy would be the biggest issues in the short term and that a balanced diet wouldn't be necessary. Happy to be advised on this though.

Sweep, one friend had done several lengths of the North Sea Cycle Route before so was on about doing the Danish section as part of a loop from Hamburg. The other two are keen long distance walkers and were on about the Cape Wrath trail (Northern Scotland) which I think is what they are leaning towards. I suspect neither is likely to happen until spring next year.

Personally, I think they are all a bit strange but it did strike me that it was an interesting question potentially with wider application to others on a really tight budget.

Re: Suggetsions for food on tour with a tiny budget

26 June 2015 - 5:47pm

Full of calories and often tasty.... Lard or butter added to said oats or lentil soup increases the flavour and calories dramatically

Re: Suggetsions for food on tour with a tiny budget

26 June 2015 - 5:15pm
Bulk Rice? They could could buy a big sack of rice form an Asian grocery and carry it around

Re: First tour, how much time would I need for this...

26 June 2015 - 5:15pm
Thanks a lot, will continue my investigations there

Re: Touring in Norway

26 June 2015 - 5:10pm
jakobpoffley wrote:I'll cycle to Drammen and Konsberg and then follow the nummedal route.

A stop at http://www.drammen-skisenter.no/ to take the ski lift up to the forest is worth while, if only for the view. But if you are camping, you can camp up there, too.

Re: Touring in Norway

26 June 2015 - 5:10pm
I found the section from Narvik to where the E6 splits off quite busy with quite a lot of trucks, I think I would get the bus to Harstad or possibly get off after the ferry which would probably cut a couple days riding out and may allow you to go a bit further down the coast or just take it more easily.

Re: Tents without groundsheet

26 June 2015 - 4:56pm
I just use thick poly sheeting foot print - cheap. Inside I use a cheap tent carpet - got from Ebay fo ra few £s.

Re: Suggetsions for food on tour with a tiny budget

26 June 2015 - 4:55pm
Lentils if you have free fuel (firewood).
Oats for breakfast

Though you would be wanting some fruit and veg if you want to live to be old as well.
So lentil and onion.
and some flavouring (curry powder)

Famously the Nepalese live on Dahl, rice and cabbage!

Re: Rhine-Moselle short tour, advice needed

26 June 2015 - 4:55pm
Just back yesterday from riding : Metz - on to the Moselle with stops at the following : Thionville - Luxembourg City - Neumagen - Ernst - Koblenz - Bonn - Koln - Sittard (Netherlands) - Brussels [Travelled with our bikes, 8 of us, Eurostar/TGV to Metz, Eurostar from Brussels)

As far as Koblenz was great - Rhine from Koblenz to Koln was boring - endless cycle paths and a great big river, nothing in the way of scenery or interest. Upside of the whole ride was that signage was excellent for cycle lanes etc.

The bikes you are likely to be able to hire will be heavy "Dutch" bikes which you'll probably find hard work .. and will reduce doable distances.


Re: Suggetsions for food on tour with a tiny budget

26 June 2015 - 4:50pm
Which country/territory would this tour be in?

Re: Bicycles from Britain to Continent

26 June 2015 - 4:46pm
Just back from a trip cycling in France, Luxembourg, Germany, Holland, Belgium - and a "veteran" of numerous other foreign sorties. We're a group ranging in age from about 56 - 72 ... but does age matter?

Summary (most mentioned already) of possibilities:

1 Eurotunnel Bike Service - Folkestone to Calais - <£20 for bike and passenger, each way
2 Eurostar to Paris, Brussels or Lille - bike is sent (just luggage off, not packed up) as freight on a specific train - about £30 each way for bike + passenger fare. Bikes need to be checked in about 2 hours before the passenger journey.
3 European Bike Express to/from a whole host of points in the UK and France/Spain (and I think Germany) - coach with a big bike trailer. Good value and CTC discount (the only one worth anything )
4 Once you get to France more of the TGV trains are now carrying wheel on bikes (we used the Paris-Metz service last week) - see www.capitainetrain.com to book tickets WITH bike spaces (for Rail Europe/SNCF you have to phone up and then bookings are a bit flaky)

- after that there are ferries, although they seem to try and price out foot passengers, preferring cars - or aeroplanes with all the dismantling, packing and high damage risk issues.

We also hired a coach and trailer to take us from Calais to the Loire - although we did strike lucky as the operator was between trips and already in France so we got a bit of a deal.


Re: Skye to Oban Route

26 June 2015 - 1:26pm
I had a one night stop-over at Saucy Mary's about 5 years back.

Close to the Skye bridge.

Re: Skye to Oban Route

26 June 2015 - 1:05pm
Thanks Elizabeth that's the one. First time I used it there was a piper playing on board.

Re: Skye to Oban Route

26 June 2015 - 12:55pm
You mean the Glenelg ferry, it's running, does a good business in sea eagle spotting I believe.

Skye to Oban Route

26 June 2015 - 12:51pm
I'm heading from Oban to ride up the Outer Hebrides which I've done before. I'm looking to maybe cross to Skye then ride back to Oban on the mainland. One option would be from the Kylerhea ferry on the CNN 79 anyone know what it's like it looks broken on the map. Any other suggestions welcome also recommendations for hostals.


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