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Re: touring tyres help

24 September 2014 - 12:54pm
Hrmmm 30mm for a rim is very fat already? - so you'll be looking at something wide whatever?

Big Apples are a great all round slick. Not too bad off-road as long as it's dry. They come up to 700 x 60mm. You should be able to get Marathons or Marathon Deluxe's in 700 x 50mm.

I'm a fan of the fat tyres - nice plush ride, can take on some rough stuff (and bump up curbs fully loaded). They don't accelerate well tho.

Re: touring tyres help

24 September 2014 - 12:48pm
The op could try a tyre that's not wider but has a higher tpi, like the Vittoria Voyager Hyper Folding Tyre that gets good reviews, they should be more supple even at max pressure than a lower tpi tyre.

I was finding the 26x2.0 Big Apple tyres on my LHT draggy, I decided to try some lighter/slicker tyres, Vittoria Randonneur Pro II's 26 x 1.5 (they measure 39mm wide and 39mm high on the rim). They still feel comfortable at max pressure and roll with much less resistance, so I can clock up the miles with less effort.

Re: tablet for touring

24 September 2014 - 11:34am
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/p ... 827487.htmbikes4two wrote:Pandaz wrote:A second hand Asus 7 is the way to go: 11hr battery life!

So is that 11hr battery life as quoted for a new Asus 7 (hence new battery), or is that your observation of the battery life on a second hand one?

What would bother me about a 2nd hand device like this, is how many charge/discharge cycles are there left in the battery and can a new battery be fitted if required (hopefully so, otherwise this is just another example of built-in redundancy).

The Asus 7 inch memopad looks good for the money and is super light. However, some reviews have said you can't charge via the micro usb, needs a special adaptor, which would be quite a big drawback.

Re: touring tyres help

24 September 2014 - 9:44am
As you say Bicycler, there are many factors involved here and I don't disagree with anything you say. We both rode with drops, had virtually identical loads" packed in the same way and deliberately adopted similar riding position by way of experiment. The most significant difference was me at 95kg versus 65kg. The comfort factor of The Big Apples is undeniable but suffice it to say he's gone & bought a pair of Supremes to try.

Re: touring tyres help

24 September 2014 - 12:19am
Going downhill is a bit atypical of the ride as a whole; you spend much less time doing it than you do riding on the flat or going uphill. It is normally stated that the better rolling benefits of supple wide tyres are more important than the aero advantages of thinner ones. This situation is reversed when going quickly downhill where losses due to aerodynamic drag will massively exceed those caused by rolling resistance. With touring bikes I would have thought that other factors would play a bigger role in determining how much drag you create going downhill. Chief amongst these might be the way the luggage is carried and rider positioning; one rider in the drops and the other with a flat bar would be so different aerodynamically as to make any tyre comparison meaningless.

I think what your example does highlight is that it doesn't really matter what people choose if they are happy with it. You enjoyed a touring holiday with somebody who had a completely different choice of touring bike and tyres.

The OP is a fairly heavy rider, carrying a fair amount of luggage on a Salsa Fargo which is a stiff MTB-based off-road touring bike with (probably) wide MTB rims. With that combination I can understand why it may be worth experimenting with wider tyres for better comfort. As for the whole Big Apple-type 'balloon' tyres, it really does seem to be a love it or hate it thing but some people swear by them so they may be worth a try.

On that note, I have a 26x 2"/50mm pair on order. I'll post my thoughts on them when I've had chance to test them.

Re: touring tyres help

23 September 2014 - 10:56pm
Just finished a 450 mile fully laden tour. I had 700 x 35 Marathon Supremes & companion had 26" x 2" Big Apples and I rolled down the hills faster every time by a noticeable margin. Read what you want into that.

Re: touring tyres help

23 September 2014 - 10:36pm
I've just done a tour on 700x35 Duremes and they were excellent. 5000 miles with only 1 puncture and they still have plenty of tread. 40c is pretty wide and I'd have thought that was near the limit for 700c wheels. Unless you're carrying an awful lot of gear I'd stick with the Duremes.

Re: Poncho

23 September 2014 - 9:16pm
I got a proper ex-military one. Great, strong, use as emergency tarp, but very heavy. Mine was plain green, not camouflage.


Re: Ditching my Hybrid for a full Spec Tourer

23 September 2014 - 9:12pm
Great comments. Thank you. It has given me loads of food for thought and lots of options.

Last Friday I looked at a Surly Disc Trucker, which is the bike that has tickled my fancy the most, and I wasn't disappointed. I added a few bells and whistles to my wish list and was pleased with the overall deal the supplier came up with. I got that all in writing and had placed a deposit by lunch time today. EXCITING stuff.

Then: My phone rang. A lady had her bike nicked in Bristol and needed a replacement for the school run! She viewed it this evening with her bike expert friend and was very pleased. She paid cash, loaded my bike in her car and as far as I know my bike is going to live a happy life in Bristol towing a happy 4 year old around the place. And I have a few extra spondoolies to pay towards my Surly.

How cool is that?...............hc

Re: touring tyres help

23 September 2014 - 8:33pm
I have 37mm Panaracer Pasela TGs on my Salsa Vaya. Lovely tyres for the road.


Re: touring tyres help

23 September 2014 - 8:32pm
if wanting wide touring tyres, they do a 2 inch (50mm) standard Marathon and Marathon Supreme which is a good road touring tyre. For the full on balloon tyre experience you can get the fast rolling and comfortable Big Apples in 2" (50mm) 2.15 (55mm) and 2.35 (60mm).

If you are heavy and also carrying a lot of extra weight in luggage (as in fully laden with camping gear) then a Marathon Mondial is a tough expedition touring tyre and I might be tempted to use one of those on the rear (they come in 1.75, 2 and 2.15) for the extra reliability. They are a fair bit slower though, so I'd stick with ordinary touring tyres unless I was heavily loaded on tour.

touring tyres help

23 September 2014 - 8:04pm
im after a new pair of touring tyres my frame has clearence for 2.3 inch front and rear,my rims are 30mm wide,i weigh 110kg and i just ride on the road,i have the big ortlieb back roller classic pannier and a pair of smaller ones on the front,i have a pair of marathon dureme in a 700x40c but they seem a bit narrow what do you suggest.matt

Re: Poncho

23 September 2014 - 6:26pm
I don't think so - I was planning on wearing it as evening wear.

On my cycling trips you worried I might get shot by mistake?

All army stuff tends to be stealth coloured al - I think that's the general idea.

Re: Poncho

23 September 2014 - 5:57pm
Won't this make you invisible?


Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

23 September 2014 - 4:18pm
here below my ktm during an unforgettable cycling along the coast of North Brazil

Re: "End of the line for Europe's iconic night trains?"

23 September 2014 - 3:06pm
Sad to read this, I'll be on the Amsterdam to Warsaw next week for the first time and I'm very excited about it. We have a private cabin with WC and shower!

Re: Pennine Cycleway

23 September 2014 - 2:18pm
From Derby going north there is a good Sustrans route which is off main roads. Not very far (Darley Abbey) and you are on the A6 til you turn off left for Wirksworth and up the hill to the High Peak Trail at Middleton (or Steeple Grange) - takes you through to above Buxton. Nice route.

Re: Pennine Cycleway

23 September 2014 - 1:23pm
I cycled part of the PCW from Settle to Derby then to Leicester in 3 days in May 2012. I thoroughly enjoyed the route and would like to return to do the part from Berwick to Settle.

Settle to Buxton was hilly, sometimes very hilly and challenging. The scenery was wonderful. I would thoroughly recommend it.

We were staying in B&B's and a Youth Hostel (Ravenstor) in Derbyshire but if I did the route again I would have aimed to stop at Hartington YH if possible just because it is so nice.

Re: Poncho

23 September 2014 - 10:14am
Update (yes I don't rush into things

Am currently thinking of getting one of these - Dutch army.

http://www.militarymart.co.uk/index.php ... uct_id=509

Saw one in a shop but it was damaged so unfortunately had to pass on it.

I don't think it is as super light as the one which was shown to me by its super keen fan but it's not too heavy - definitely way lighter than the British army thing I came across which seemed as if it would stop bullets.

If anyone has an particular views on this Dutch army thingie, feel free to post impressions.

Re: First EVER Tour! (and I'm going RTW)

23 September 2014 - 7:52am
So I've decided to fly to Nepal and begin the Indian and South East Asia Legs of my journey.

Hey James
I am approaching Georgia and considering the same thing - i.e. flying to India. Just wandering how you are finding it logistically getting bike on the plane etc and whether any bike shops in Tbilisi have boxes etc?


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