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Re: TOURING 2015

14 December 2014 - 11:28pm
Hoping to dawdle around Suffolks Painters Trail in 2015 with my watercolours. After falling off, my shoulder is still not right and am hoping for an op to set it right. Was going last September but my accident prevented it. Picked up an info pack from the Information Centre in Lavenham this morning. They still have 1 copy left if anyone wants one.
Probably do something across the channel too.. Wish it was further afield.

Al

Re: Default tourer?

14 December 2014 - 10:30pm
Disc Trucker > LHT.

Absolutely love mine. Best bike I've ever owned. Mine was bought when I got a refund on a Genesis Day01 Alfine 11 that spent more time in the workshop than on the road.

I don't think they're expensive at all. Before I got mine, I sat down and priced up everything I wanted - steel frame, BB7s, XT hubs laced to good rims, bar end shifters, etc. and the individual parts came to what I paid for the DT. Other brands skimp on things like rims/crankset, Surly don't. Every part of their bikes are properly thought out.

Re: TOURING 2015

14 December 2014 - 10:13pm
geocycle wrote:France for me, something loosely based on France en velo route time permitting. Btw if anyone has this route on gpx I'd be grateful. The guide is beautiful and ideal for wet Sunday reading in December. Looks like the route will be St Malo South to Cevennes then head east via Arles to Nice.

I've seen the book in the shops, but never examined it, assuming it was 'just another book about cycling in France'. Just had a quick google, and it looks good - I've put it on my late Xmas presents list!

Maybe some or all of it in 2015?

Re: TOURING 2015

14 December 2014 - 9:15pm
MrsHJ wrote:dodger wrote:Where does the Tour de Manche go? I like cycling in France. Could be an option if I can get permission!

The full thing is the North Coast of Brittany, South Coast of Normandy, along the centre South of Dorset and Devon. We met a Dutch family last year who found the Dorset and Devon sections too steep for the kids but obviously you can choose which bits you do. 1200km for the whole thing according to a quick google.

I think that distance figure includes the ferry crossing distances. I think the cycled distance is around 750k. There's also the petit tour de manche which is about half that as well. I can cycle from home to the route as well which helps.

Re: Default tourer?

14 December 2014 - 6:52pm
mrjemm wrote:PH wrote:Surly certainly hit the jackpot with it, right bike, right time, right price and some great marketing. I suspect many of those on that site are American, where it's a real bargain, I don't think they have the choice we do.

I am quite surprised that this could be thought possible. They certainly have a very wide range of bikes available in the US, and as I understand it, a higher level of disposable income than here along with many many custom builders and a healthy/ier cycle culture. It is possibly that Surly is a bigger name in the US than here, what with it being a US brand, which is a good selling point of course.

My American friends tell me that before the popularity of the LHT, touring bikes were very much a niche item and the choice for off the peg affordable models was usually the Trek 520 and Cannondale Touring. The other thing is that the choice has now increased thanks to the LHT popularity, I don't think SOMA (Which is a make I like, I have the ES) had a specific touring bike until recently.

Re: Default tourer?

14 December 2014 - 6:36pm
mrjemm wrote:and maybe also the traditional horizontal toptube design, which tends to result in mucho spacerism when a comfy set-up is arrived at.

Yes, I know exactly what you mean. I saw a Disc Trucker in Brixton Cycles redcently.

It looks like a supremely capable bike but the thing you pointed out does bug me. Some configurations can look like two wheels on a farm gate. Apart from the aesthetics, I find a sloping tube far more practical.

I don't suppose Surly are going to change the design though.

So I'll just have to lump it.

Re: Default tourer?

14 December 2014 - 6:18pm
PH wrote:Surly certainly hit the jackpot with it, right bike, right time, right price and some great marketing. I suspect many of those on that site are American, where it's a real bargain, I don't think they have the choice we do.

I am quite surprised that this could be thought possible. They certainly have a very wide range of bikes available in the US, and as I understand it, a higher level of disposable income than here along with many many custom builders and a healthy/ier cycle culture. It is possibly that Surly is a bigger name in the US than here, what with it being a US brand, which is a good selling point of course.

For me, Soma, with their Saga/Saga Disc are amongst other brands available more widely in the US than here. Also, Novara, which I believe is the own brand of REI, is a popular name for touring bikes if I am not mistaken, with the Randonee being a well regarded one I think.

I've never ridden a Long Haul (or Disc) Trucker, but have seen numerous and looked closely at several. They always appear very well designed and solidly built. For me, the only drawback (as a disc brake preferer (my word)) is the ugliness (in my eyes) of the drop outs of the DT, and maybe also the traditional horizontal toptube design, which tends to result in mucho spacerism when a comfy set-up is arrived at. But these are just aesthetics, and barely important in the grand scheme of things.

I see a Surly every day, but that's Mme's Straggler, and tis a great bike, though perhaps not so suited for touring as we'd've liked- mudguards are proving an issue right now, which isn't a problem for LHT/DTs. As for the comparison against Thorns- can't see the reason folk go for Thorns except the outdated cachet or reputation they've claimed for themselves- Surlys are clearly not inferior and yet cheaper. Better colours and styling too...

If you want to see just how popular the LHTs are, similar to Fully Loaded, but I think bigger, is the CGOAB equivalent, where LHTs alone have 34 pages!

http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?o=S ... 8000&v=4GB

Re: Touring in remote locations - advice please

14 December 2014 - 5:22pm
Having ridden the Great Divide, the Southerrn Tier, the Pacific Coast twice over and round Florida I have seen very few bears, a few coyotes, lots of very lecherous old men, some turantulas, about 3 snakes and no scorpions.

McNichols you will be absolutely fine. Be sensible, take Halt dog spray, carry spares and maybe a Katadyn filter. I can lend you one if you need it.

Just go and have fun.

Re: TOURING 2015

14 December 2014 - 4:37pm
Eight countries in eight weeks is what Pauline is planning for us. The rest of the year will be made up of a couple of solo tours and meeting up with others at various rallies.

Re: Multi Function Watches

14 December 2014 - 3:27pm
An altimeter can be helpful if you want to know how far up a pass you are.
I find a compass helpful with route finding particularly at junctions but it's better in front of your eyes.

I have seen them with "memory bank" type functions which could be handy for a pin/password reminder.

Definitely carry a watch as it runs forever on a separate battery; no unzipping the sleeping bag to check the time.

Re: TOURING 2015

14 December 2014 - 3:23pm
dodger wrote:Where does the Tour de Manche go? I like cycling in France. Could be an option if I can get permission!

The full thing is the North Coast of Brittany, South Coast of Normandy, along the centre South of Dorset and Devon. We met a Dutch family last year who found the Dorset and Devon sections too steep for the kids but obviously you can choose which bits you do. 1200km for the whole thing according to a quick google.

Re: TOURING 2015

14 December 2014 - 3:09pm
dodger wrote:Where does the Tour de Manche go? I like cycling in France. Could be an option if I can get permission!

There's various options depending how long you've got. I did Cherbourg to Roscoff http://en.tourdemanche.com

Re: TOURING 2015

14 December 2014 - 3:03pm
Where does the Tour de Manche go? I like cycling in France. Could be an option if I can get permission!

Re: Is touring up to Bormio possible in April?

14 December 2014 - 2:20pm
Am afraid I can't answer your question, though you might find this film interesting if you can track it down
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVniHMrnub4

It's available with subtitles.

I saw it last week at the Italian cultural institute in London.

With subtitles.

The sad looking guy in the film is collecting remnants of WW1.

Re: TOURING 2015

14 December 2014 - 1:45pm
honesty wrote:I supposedly walking the two moors way next year, so doubt I will be allowed another holiday away from the wife. If I do, it'll be the LLC for me, though am toying with the idea of the tour de manche instead. Other than that the only ride I have planned is the Exmouth Exodus.

LLCymru is excellent, if hilly. Tour de Manche is easier but longer with ferries to deal with. Recommend both although French food is an attraction!

Re: TOURING 2015

14 December 2014 - 1:32pm
I supposedly walking the two moors way next year, so doubt I will be allowed another holiday away from the wife. If I do, it'll be the LLC for me, though am toying with the idea of the tour de manche instead. Other than that the only ride I have planned is the Exmouth Exodus.

Re: san javier

14 December 2014 - 1:20pm
Head inland through Pilar de la Horadada and follow the cv-325 towards the Embalse de la Pedrera Reservoir and follow the road around clockwise. Head back via San Miguel salinas via the canal. If you ride on a Sunday 100s of cyclists and very light traffic. Spanish motorists are also very considerate towards cyclist and will give you plenty of room.

Re: TOURING 2015

14 December 2014 - 12:20pm
My dream for September next year was to do the pilgrim route too but starting from Roscoff and then adding the necessary time to get to Santander for the ferry home. With a full time job it's virtually impossible to fit into two weeks and even two and a half weeks is a stretch. However, some family issues mean that it might have to wait

I like the planning though!

Re: TOURING 2015

14 December 2014 - 11:49am
France for me, something loosely based on France en velo route time permitting. Btw if anyone has this route on gpx I'd be grateful. The guide is beautiful and ideal for wet Sunday reading in December. Looks like the route will be St Malo South to Cevennes then head east via Arles to Nice.

Hel - Danzig Ferry

14 December 2014 - 11:45am
Does anyone know if bicycles are allowed on the ferry between Hel and Danzig?

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