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Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

21 May 2015 - 9:06pm
syklist wrote:Occasionally, when I read a post like this, I wonder if our plan to cycle from Gol to Trondheim (and then some more) this summer, toddler in tow in a trailer, is a tadge ambitious. So I go through the proposed route in my head once again and wonder, briefly, if gravel tracks, 800m climbs and 50km days really are that much worse with a trailer behind your bike than on a solo bike.

It is probably best to not think about it until we get there
Think instead on all the families who will do long road trips with a toddler sat in a car seat for hours every day. And be grateful for fresh air and mountain roads, and your ability to pull the trailer up there.

Your son will have a much better experience than the ones stuck in cars to drive halfway across Europe for their summer holidays

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

21 May 2015 - 8:45pm
elioelio although I can't offer any route advice I can offer you all my respect for being so thoughtful towards your partner. I hope you have a wonderful time...b

Re: Brittany - Voies Vertes

21 May 2015 - 8:11pm
Agreed, but they can be great for the less confident rider. My wife loved the route from Roscoff to Redon, avoiding all busy roads.

Re: Edinburgh airport

21 May 2015 - 5:27pm
for your return journey... there's no train station within cycling distance, you'd be better off just cycling into Edinburgh centre (flat and straight, along Corstorphine Rd and through Haymarket).

EDIT: I was wrong, no bikes on trams...

http://edinburghtrams.com/information/conditions-of-carriage

Not allowed: "bicycles except if specifically permitted by way of notices along with publication of the applicable conditions on the Company’s website. Folding bicycles which are folded and fully enclosed in a suitable carrying bag will be carried providing there is space available on the tram to do so."

cheers,

Re: Edinburgh airport

21 May 2015 - 4:45pm
irc wrote:Can't help with your question but have I read it wrong? Your wife is driving from Aberdeen to Edinburgh to take your panniers home??

Err.
Yes.

Now you have (kindly) pointed it out I'll have a rethink.
Sounds crazy I know.

Because of time restraints etc. I have to box the bike at home, hirer a van, drive down from Aberdeen to Edinburgh with my wife and panniers ( mustn't forget the panniers).
Be dropped off at the airport - and my wife drive the van back to Aberdeen ( without me, the bike or my panniers)
I guess we thought it would be best to do a reverse process - but avoid the hassle and cost of the van - since the bike can be unboxed on arrival at Edinburgh.

Many thanks for stirring the grey matter.

Matt

Re: Edinburgh airport

21 May 2015 - 4:15pm
Can't help with your question but have I read it wrong? Your wife is driving from Aberdeen to Edinburgh to take your panniers home??

Re: Edinburgh airport

21 May 2015 - 4:11pm
Now I do know the answer to this, there is a bike trial with the trams in May, so I guess the answer is generally no. https://edinburghtrams.com/news/bikes-on-board.
Otherwise, you could cycle as far as Edinburgh Park train station (using the pavements, I have seen people cycling along the A8 pavements and you can cross at the RBS on a pedestrian bridge or you can go under the A8 at the airport road end on pavements) and the Aberdeen train stops there. There is a map of cycle routes in Edinburgh http://edinburgh.cyclestreets.net/
I have spent the last few days trying to figure out how to get yougest son to Edinburgh airport on the bus from Stirling and back again so I've spent some time looking at the walking routes around the airport to get him the last bit between Ingliston showground and the airport. Don't ask it has been dreadful, he's 18 and clueless, but the trains are now back on so he will take the train to Edinburgh Park then the tram (a jaw-dropping £5 for 2 or 3 stops one way) into the airport and then reverse it to get home with girlfriend). The tram fare is much, much lower if you cycle to the next stop at the park and ride and it is a safe cycle to there!

Edinburgh airport

21 May 2015 - 3:24pm
I have done a search here but not found an answer to this question:
I will be flying into Edinburgh airport at the end of my tour. My bike will be boxed and my wife will meet me in our small car and take my panniers back home.
Has anyone un-boxed a bike at the airport and then cycled to a train station?
I know the trams are now running.
Do they allow a bike on - un-booked?

I have to return to Aberdeen so want to catch a train there.
Our car isn't big enough to take the bike and panniers.
It's an early flight arrival- so I have time to catch the train home

Thanks folks

Matt

Re: North Sea Cycle Route

21 May 2015 - 2:36pm
daveg wrote:I'm planning to ride another section of the NSCR next month hopefully riding from Hamburg to Grena in Denmark.

Planning is going well but I've just hit a small snag. I'm navigating by Garmin and I've either got or plotted the route using Cycline guides from Hamburg as far as Frederikshavn, but I can't find any information or guides for the next section.
Do you mean Frederikshavn to Grenaa? Then you need to follow Danish Cycle Route 5. You should be able to find basic overview maps of the network in bookshops and tourist information. There is a set of four detail maps covering Jutland. We found one we needed last summer in the bookshop in Hirtshals plus a more detailed overview map (green cover in a plastic pouch).

I can check when I get home and see if they have ISBN numbers on them.

Re: route finding in France- maps or new tech

21 May 2015 - 1:41pm
Beware, though, of the well-documented issues concerning usb charging from dynamos, for certain smart phones, notably iPhones...

Re: Nigg/Cromarty ferry

21 May 2015 - 11:01am
Is it anything to do with a slipway dispute on the Nigg side? Last year I was talking to the guy who owned the slipway and he was complaining about no payment from the ferry operators.

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

21 May 2015 - 10:52am
I don't know which part of Norfolk you are in, but if you are withing striking distance of the train, riding to or back from Ipswich is a fantastic weekend, using the train one way.

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

21 May 2015 - 10:51am
In some ways touring with a kid could be similar to touring with a non-cyclist to get them into it. You have to stop and add interest on the way like a walk round a castle or town on the way. The tantrum bit is not the same...unless things are really going badly.

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

21 May 2015 - 10:49am
We do a little bit then stop somewhere so he can walk and run around. Then when he is looking tired we ride until he falls asleep then keep riding as long and far as we can until he wakes. Then we stop, once he has come round completely, so he can run around. That way we get a longer spell of riding when he is asleep.

As far as terrain goes we have only really done towpaths, roads, tarmac surfaced cycle paths, gravel cycle paths and hard packed cycle paths. We have done one off road trail in the Lakes with the trailer and he got bounced around a bit. Plus going up 180m of straight up hill pushing a bike with a trailer over rocks and drainage channels was a really hard thing to do. Cycling up was impossible. I do think if we do anything on rougher terrain we will end up doing shorter spells of riding on it. It must be a bit much for a kid getting bounced around even in the better trailers out there. We use a Burley trailer which is good and has rubber extrusion for the suspension. Later models that came out 6 months after we got ours had better suspension.

In our case we got the child seat (cheap hand on from family that was bought in halfords) then we got a trailer but he never took to it and complained when we put him in. So we got a better Hamax seat and he loved that for a while. Recently we have been giving him the choice of seat or trailer and in a change he is now always asking for the trailer. We tend to take the seat too as we think it makes a change in the ride to go on there. My choice which means I'm the one carrying it but that works well because switching to the seat is a change when he is grumbling about going back in the trailer. Nothing worse than a tantrumy kid when strapping into a trailer.

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

21 May 2015 - 10:14am
Tangled Metal wrote:Well this is an interesting thread with ideas for routes. 30 miles a day is what my partner is considering for our first tour. I am a keen cyclist and fitter than she is but never toured. She is a slower cyclist but has done a lot of touring in out of the way places that don't get many Western Europeans cycling through. The limit of about 30 miles a day is based on the fact we have a 2 year old child and he is unlikely to go much longer than 1-2 hours in one sitting even in the trailer when asleep. That means a cycle then a walk then a cycle then a walk throughout the day. Plus add in the sometimes 8mph average speed we do we do not get far. This is why I too am looking for something similar to the OP only not in the same area. I've posted for ideas but got none just general advise so I will listen to advise on here.

Occasionally, when I read a post like this, I wonder if our plan to cycle from Gol to Trondheim (and then some more) this summer, toddler in tow in a trailer, is a tadge ambitious. So I go through the proposed route in my head once again and wonder, briefly, if gravel tracks, 800m climbs and 50km days really are that much worse with a trailer behind your bike than on a solo bike.

It is probably best to not think about it until we get there

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

21 May 2015 - 9:52am
By combining the NCN 1, and various other cycle routes (30, 31, 42 etc) we just did a really nice 4 day tour around Norfolk and Suffolk, very largely on extremely quiet country lanes. We did about 135 miles in total, camping, as a warm up for a Brittany tour next month. As we have only toured using hostels before it was a good exercise with camping gear. As we live in Norwich we started and finished from our house, and it was all really nice cycling, so for a trial run there really is no need to go any further afield.

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

21 May 2015 - 8:14am
A tandem might be a good long term investment. Great way to even out the fitness / stamina / skill levels in a partnership. Hire one first.

And try a week long camping tour of the Green Heart in the Netherlands. Cycling heaven.

Nigg/Cromarty ferry

21 May 2015 - 8:00am
For anyone going north if Inverness note the Nigg/Cromarty ferry will not be running this summer.

Re: Dirt road touring / bike-packing in Crete - info

21 May 2015 - 7:44am
james-o wrote:Looks good .. I wondered what that area would be like for a trip a few year ago. Back on the list!

It had been on my mind for a while that I needed to check it out.. it turned out to be just brilliant. Great for a short, accessible getaway. I'll be back again before too long I think.

Re: Dirt road touring / bike-packing in Crete - info

21 May 2015 - 7:15am
That looks brilliant. Thanks for sharing...b

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