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Re: new to touring

25 September 2014 - 10:28am
It should be fine for touring. Bearing in mind folk have successfully toured on penny-farthings, that your hybrid isn't a "proper touring bike" is really not an issue. You may find yourself walking up nasty hills towards the end of the day, but that's hardly the end of the world, and you might find yourself taking the odd walk with 27 gears anywy. Tweaks needed will be sufficient luggage space, assuming you don't already have it, and while mudguards aren't essential they do tend to make life more comfortable on wet roads. Toe cages or clipless pedals make long distances a little easier, but again you can live without them.

The extra eyelets are for an extra water bottle cage, assuming you (a) want one and it (b) fits.

The main thing, and the most difficult thing, you need to go touring is the resolve to get on and do it. Once you're on your bike with a target in front of you it's "just" a case of turning the pedals until you get there. If you stick at it you can tune the kit to your own preferences over time, but to just get out touring you don't need any special kit.

Pete.

new to touring

25 September 2014 - 9:39am
HI all,
I have a ridgeback 8 speed hybrid,with all eyelets for touring,
with a few tweaks will this be suitable for touring?
it also has eyelets on the underside of the down tube top end just behind the front wheel what would these be for
Thanks

Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

25 September 2014 - 8:56am
bigjim wrote:theDaveB wrote:Here is my Decathlon Original 5 Night and Day + cheap Bob Yak ripoff trailer.
I want to know more about this.
I'm off to Portugal on Sunday. I hate travelling with the bike. It can cost me £100 to take my own bike. There is a Decathlon near the airport. I thought that Original three looks as if would tour. It's about £150. mmmm... Searched the net to see if anybody had toured with one. I tour light. saddlebag or stuffsac if poss.
So come on spill the beans. I know it's the 5 but I think there is not that much difference.

The 3 has thinner tubing on the frame and mentions a weight limit on the spec. I went to the shop to look at it and decided a 5 would be better for me as I weigh 17.5 stone.

I paid £209 at the time (12 months ago) and last time I was in noticed that do loads of others now around that price.

I can't complain about mine at all, only been on 2 tours to North Wales but go out on it nearly every day and not had a single problem. Only things I have changed our seat, tyres and pedals. They come with a £30 gel seat, I use their own £10 seat, much better. Changed the tyres due to too many punctures and the pedals becuase I wear sandals and could feel the pedal under my feet after a while, so swapped for some flat ones, also from Decathlon for £5.

Edit: Just had a look on the site, the 520 looks the same as mine and the 500 is the same minus rack and Dynamo.

Dave

Re: touring tyres help

24 September 2014 - 7:34pm
thanks for the replys everyone

Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

24 September 2014 - 7:10pm
theDaveB wrote:Here is my Decathlon Original 5 Night and Day + cheap Bob Yak ripoff trailer.
I want to know more about this.
I'm off to Portugal on Sunday. I hate travelling with the bike. It can cost me £100 to take my own bike. There is a Decathlon near the airport. I thought that Original three looks as if would tour. It's about £150. mmmm... Searched the net to see if anybody had toured with one. I tour light. saddlebag or stuffsac if poss.
So come on spill the beans. I know it's the 5 but I think there is not that much difference.

Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

24 September 2014 - 6:15pm
Here is my Decathlon Original 5 Night and Day + cheap Bob Yak ripoff trailer.

Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

24 September 2014 - 6:08pm

Looking north over Mid Wales
My 20 year old Saracen Terratrax MTB. Only original component left is the seat post and bottle bolts.

Neil

Re: touring tyres help

24 September 2014 - 5:59pm
On my 26" surly disc trucker I've done long-weekend touring (2x full back rollers plus bar bag) involving road and some gravel with:

1.75" conti travel contact
1.75" marathon plus
1.5" pasela tour guard (folding)

The contis were nicely balanced, good on gravel and rolled well. Did pick up a couple of punctures, however.
The marathon+ felt quite leaden and I once lost the back wheel on some fairly innocuous gravel which somewhat dented my confidence in them. No punctures at all though.
Just done my first long weekend on the pasela TGs and they feel wonderful. Relatively easy to fit, no punctures, rolled nicely and were pretty adept on the loose stuff, so I'm potentially a convert, although only time will tell re punctures. Not cheap though!

Christiian

Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

24 September 2014 - 5:13pm
Crossing the Danube 31st August 2014. The orange front bags are my home made lightweight set. This was about mid distance of the 1100km tour and my 'wet' day

Re: Poncho

24 September 2014 - 3:38pm
I use this one -

http://www.decathlon.co.uk/forclaz-100- ... 84715.html

Although it says entry level, I was in a massive downpour and it kept me dry on my bike.

Dave

Re: touring tyres help

24 September 2014 - 12:54pm
Hrmmm 30mm for a rim is very fat already? - so you'll be looking at something wide whatever?

Big Apples are a great all round slick. Not too bad off-road as long as it's dry. They come up to 700 x 60mm. You should be able to get Marathons or Marathon Deluxe's in 700 x 50mm.

I'm a fan of the fat tyres - nice plush ride, can take on some rough stuff (and bump up curbs fully loaded). They don't accelerate well tho.

Re: touring tyres help

24 September 2014 - 12:48pm
The op could try a tyre that's not wider but has a higher tpi, like the Vittoria Voyager Hyper Folding Tyre that gets good reviews, they should be more supple even at max pressure than a lower tpi tyre.

I was finding the 26x2.0 Big Apple tyres on my LHT draggy, I decided to try some lighter/slicker tyres, Vittoria Randonneur Pro II's 26 x 1.5 (they measure 39mm wide and 39mm high on the rim). They still feel comfortable at max pressure and roll with much less resistance, so I can clock up the miles with less effort.

Re: tablet for touring

24 September 2014 - 11:34am
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/p ... 827487.htmbikes4two wrote:Pandaz wrote:A second hand Asus 7 is the way to go: 11hr battery life!

So is that 11hr battery life as quoted for a new Asus 7 (hence new battery), or is that your observation of the battery life on a second hand one?

What would bother me about a 2nd hand device like this, is how many charge/discharge cycles are there left in the battery and can a new battery be fitted if required (hopefully so, otherwise this is just another example of built-in redundancy).

The Asus 7 inch memopad looks good for the money and is super light. However, some reviews have said you can't charge via the micro usb, needs a special adaptor, which would be quite a big drawback.

Re: touring tyres help

24 September 2014 - 9:44am
As you say Bicycler, there are many factors involved here and I don't disagree with anything you say. We both rode with drops, had virtually identical loads" packed in the same way and deliberately adopted similar riding position by way of experiment. The most significant difference was me at 95kg versus 65kg. The comfort factor of The Big Apples is undeniable but suffice it to say he's gone & bought a pair of Supremes to try.

Re: touring tyres help

24 September 2014 - 12:19am
Going downhill is a bit atypical of the ride as a whole; you spend much less time doing it than you do riding on the flat or going uphill. It is normally stated that the better rolling benefits of supple wide tyres are more important than the aero advantages of thinner ones. This situation is reversed when going quickly downhill where losses due to aerodynamic drag will massively exceed those caused by rolling resistance. With touring bikes I would have thought that other factors would play a bigger role in determining how much drag you create going downhill. Chief amongst these might be the way the luggage is carried and rider positioning; one rider in the drops and the other with a flat bar would be so different aerodynamically as to make any tyre comparison meaningless.

I think what your example does highlight is that it doesn't really matter what people choose if they are happy with it. You enjoyed a touring holiday with somebody who had a completely different choice of touring bike and tyres.

The OP is a fairly heavy rider, carrying a fair amount of luggage on a Salsa Fargo which is a stiff MTB-based off-road touring bike with (probably) wide MTB rims. With that combination I can understand why it may be worth experimenting with wider tyres for better comfort. As for the whole Big Apple-type 'balloon' tyres, it really does seem to be a love it or hate it thing but some people swear by them so they may be worth a try.

On that note, I have a 26x 2"/50mm pair on order. I'll post my thoughts on them when I've had chance to test them.

Re: touring tyres help

23 September 2014 - 10:56pm
Just finished a 450 mile fully laden tour. I had 700 x 35 Marathon Supremes & companion had 26" x 2" Big Apples and I rolled down the hills faster every time by a noticeable margin. Read what you want into that.

Re: touring tyres help

23 September 2014 - 10:36pm
I've just done a tour on 700x35 Duremes and they were excellent. 5000 miles with only 1 puncture and they still have plenty of tread. 40c is pretty wide and I'd have thought that was near the limit for 700c wheels. Unless you're carrying an awful lot of gear I'd stick with the Duremes.

Re: Poncho

23 September 2014 - 9:16pm
I got a proper ex-military one. Great, strong, use as emergency tarp, but very heavy. Mine was plain green, not camouflage.

Ian

Re: Ditching my Hybrid for a full Spec Tourer

23 September 2014 - 9:12pm
Great comments. Thank you. It has given me loads of food for thought and lots of options.

Last Friday I looked at a Surly Disc Trucker, which is the bike that has tickled my fancy the most, and I wasn't disappointed. I added a few bells and whistles to my wish list and was pleased with the overall deal the supplier came up with. I got that all in writing and had placed a deposit by lunch time today. EXCITING stuff.

Then: My phone rang. A lady had her bike nicked in Bristol and needed a replacement for the school run! She viewed it this evening with her bike expert friend and was very pleased. She paid cash, loaded my bike in her car and as far as I know my bike is going to live a happy life in Bristol towing a happy 4 year old around the place. And I have a few extra spondoolies to pay towards my Surly.

How cool is that?...............hc

Re: touring tyres help

23 September 2014 - 8:33pm
I have 37mm Panaracer Pasela TGs on my Salsa Vaya. Lovely tyres for the road.

Al

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