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Re: Lon Las Cymru to Taunton

29 August 2014 - 5:36pm
I did it last week (see my recent post). Anglesey was a bit dull, not as flat as I thought, there might have been more interesting bits of it if you go off route 8, I just wanted to get on with it and get it out of the way.

I thought the Llyn peninsula was the most interesting bit of the whole trip, though it's off the route, and a day or two's diversion if you want to ride around the whole of it (which I recommend). It doesn't look like there are any official cycle routes leading into it and it's just the A499, in fact when you come off route 8 onto the A499 south of Llanwnda, there is a very nice cycle path on the pavement along the A-road, and you can follow that for a long way, until you turn off onto some B roads leading to Nefyn, from where you can pick up some really small roads marked as cycle routes 41/42/43. On the way back you can rejoin route 8 near Llanystumdwy.

I also thought it was a shame that route 8 skirts around most of the northern Snowdonia range, though some of it does later cross some of the southern range I skipped most of that by taking the coastal route. So I was glad that I did a diversion to see some of the northern range near Caernarfon, looping on the A-roads around Snowdon.. unfortunately that section does not seem to have many smaller roads, the A roads were mostly quiet though they can be quite narrow and hence not so safe.

Re: Lon Las Cymru to Taunton

29 August 2014 - 4:30pm
Depends how completist you're feeling. Anglesey's much of a muchness IMO - meandering rural cycling not greatly distinct from anywhere else in Britain. Lon Las Cymru really gets going south of Porthmadog (though Caernarfon's nice, of course). I'm glad I ticked it off, but if I were doing the route for a second time I doubt I'd bother with Anglesey.

Cambridge to Canterbury

29 August 2014 - 4:25pm
I'm planning a tour in a week or so and the second day is going to be from Cambridge to Kent (Canterbury or Faversham). I could do with some help navigating to the east of London and especially crossing the Thames. I understand the ferry from Tilbury doesn't run on a Sunday and that's the day I'll be doing it! Any suggestions for a safe route avoiding the worst of the traffic this part of the world has to offer would be really appreciated.

Re: Lon Las Cymru to Taunton

29 August 2014 - 3:44pm
If you skip Anglesey then you would not have ridden the Lon Las just a section of it.
You can skip Cardiff or Chepstow as there is a choice there.

Anglesey is the nice easy flat bit to warm up ready for the hills.

Lon Las Cymru to Taunton

29 August 2014 - 3:31pm
At the start of planning a trip for next year, I'm hoping to do the Lon Las Cymru route through Chepstow and then on to home in Taunton. I have a few questions about route, but my first is - is Anglesey worth it? Or would I be better served by my time by hopping out the train early at Llanfairpwll railway station and save myself a bit of time/cycling distance?

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 3:24pm
andrew_s wrote:Ortlieb reckon that the Plus material is tougher than the Classic - similar tear resistance (in between the two different Classic fabrics), and does quite a lot better on the abrasion resistance test.
This article on crazyguyonabike gives a good rundown on the differences by a fabric technologist, and Plus comes out best there too.

Either are plenty durable enough, and it's easy to permanantly repair minor damage with Ortleib's kits, generic products like TearAid or Tenacious Tape, or glueless puncture patches such as Park.

Interesting. I guess I just assumed as they're more rigid, they're tougher. And yes to the Park patches, that's what I've used to repair mine.

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 3:20pm
You might also consider the Back Roller City. I know it has “City” in the name, but nothing’s preventing you taking it out of the city. And in fact, it seems to have some advantages, depending on your viewpoint: cheaper, lighter, no unnecessary pockets or straps, but with the usual Ortlieb quality and waterproofness.

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 2:54pm
Folks, thanks very much for your insights and suggestions and pointing out the pros and cons for each type.

Not quite decided but I think I'll probably go for the Bike Packer Classic.
Interestingly, Evans have a sale on so the price difference between the options is not always high.

http://www.evanscycles.com/categories/a ... f/ortlieb#!

Thanks again, everyone.
Doug

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 2:47pm
Dudley Manlove wrote:The plus material is lighter than the classic, but maybe not as durable.
Ortlieb reckon that the Plus material is tougher than the Classic - similar tear resistance (in between the two different Classic fabrics), and does quite a lot better on the abrasion resistance test.
This article on crazyguyonabike gives a good rundown on the differences by a fabric technologist, and Plus comes out best there too.

Either are plenty durable enough, and it's easy to permanantly repair minor damage with Ortleib's kits, generic products like TearAid or Tenacious Tape, or glueless puncture patches such as Park.

User of Front Rollers with riveted rails and fittings and non-insert hooks, currently failing to get around to getting some Plus replacements.

Re: Do I need front panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 10:32am
One big drawback with front panniers is the damping effect when you are tired and going up hills heavily laden in bottom gear. The weight on the front damps the natural side to side turns - you get wobbles and use up even more energy trying to keep the bike going straight. High tyre pressure helps a bit (less resistance to turning). Next trip I do will be without them.
On fast easy terrain they are no prob at all and a damping effect is useful.

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 9:59am
Bike-packer classics for me (actually I think my front panniers are sport packer classics, but pretty much the same thing just smaller). I often tuck a top/waterproof under the lid of my rear panniers, easy to get to in a hurry and no need to open up the main body of the pack.

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 7:11am


I am a Bike-Packer Plus user, actually have four of them, having started out on Rollers. I wouldn't go back now.

The full set in use ....



Andrew

Re: Notes from a third tour (Wales)

28 August 2014 - 11:45pm
Thanks, yeah I would have done the Coed-y-Brenin route just I had some friends to meet that day and left myself too little time.

Thanks for the tip about the Pennine Cycleway.. I might actually do some of that in December as I'll be up that end of the country anyway.

Re: Dieppe to Paris camping

28 August 2014 - 10:56pm
Recently completed this too. Last section into paris is excellent. Overall i surprised at how varied it was.

Re: First EVER Tour! (and I'm going RTW)

28 August 2014 - 10:24pm
Jamesjohnson wrote:Now I jut need to work out what's causing the twinges in my knees :/

Hey buddy - I suffer from twinges in my knee - I was touring with a friend who did sports science and he told me to get some bandages to wrap around my knee keeping it open on the patella itself - this did the job - I went from being in agony on each pedal stroke to fluid and painless. (apparently the bandages stop the patella from moving around which stops the tendon flaring up).

Hope this works for you and good luck for the rest of your tour!!!

Craig

Re: Dieppe to Paris camping

28 August 2014 - 10:13pm
so three years after starting this topic I finally got around to cycling to Paris. many thanks again to Donald for the guide - we found it very easy to follow! I am now hooked on cycling tours and am dreaming up the next one! (suggestions welcome)

Re: NCN Route 1

28 August 2014 - 9:39pm
dplant45 wrote:Planning a touring holiday in North Scotland from Inverness & on my way would like to use NCN 1. Looking @ OS maps part of the route uses old railway track towards Cullen. Is this route OK for laden touring bike using 700/28 wheels/tyres. Or am I better sticking to the lanes ? Dave
Yes, very suitable for a loaded tourer on 28mm tyres, a nice coastal route with good views. A fair bit of on-road back roads too if I remember.
Have you seen the Sustrans zoomable online map? http://www.sustrans.org.uk/ncn/map

Re: Notes from a third tour (Wales)

28 August 2014 - 9:31pm
Great write-up!

The Coed-y-Brenin route is doable on a loaded hybrid (I did it on my Ridgeback Velocity) as long as you're not scared of gravel and a bit of mud. If possible, take a GPS loaded with the route as currently marked on Sustrans/OSM-based maps. There was an earlier version of the route that followed Sarn Helen which was seriously uncyclable in parts - very scenic, true, but full of rocks! Hopefully the signage has been fixed to point along the proper route, but when I did it a few years back, it was frequently ambiguous/wrong - I actually ended up modifying one sign which was too confusing.

Agreed that the Llyn is worth it. If I were to do the route again I'd probably start from Abersoch rather than Holyhead, though public transport isn't great on the Llyn.

Oh, and if you like Lon Las Cymru, you'll love the Pennine Cycleway.

Re: Notes from a third tour (Wales)

28 August 2014 - 8:58pm
Thanks for this write-up. We could do with more of this type of personal feedback on the forum, it's full of useful information and can encourage others to take the plunge and go touring. (BTW, you really do need lower gears for that terrain, I use 22 to 34 = 17.5inches and I'm not ashamed of it )

Re: Notes from a third tour (Wales)

28 August 2014 - 7:49pm
Thanks for the info, this is a route I'm interested in doing at some point.

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