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Re: Warmshowers "membership" charges.

5 March 2015 - 8:53am
I have hosted 4 groups in the last 6 weeks, provided clean bedding, hot water, (and often the the first hot shower for weeks), laundry facilities, food and drink at my cost, why would I wish to pay for providing this service??


Just to make it clear, if you are a "host only" member that is entirely free, they are not expecting people who only host to pay anything.
On reflection I may join as a host member for now and just upgrade to free if I ever want to be a guest.

We have been lucky to have been provided with a free admin service for our hobby and it does seem ungrateful to begrudge something now because we had it for free for so long.
On the other hand, those of us who host have done so also for free and are willing to continue to do so. So some people starting to expect payment for their participation doesnt quite fit the ethos, yet we only host occasionally, not as a full time commitment.

So even though I dont like it much, it doesnt seem unreasonable and if those who are the more obvious beneficiaries (the guests) are happy enough to pay a small fee and it covers the cost, then we could reach a compromise. The existence of guest and temporary free memberships implies they may have thought the same.

Re: People who have cycled the Pamir Highway...

5 March 2015 - 8:26am
I am planning to cycle the same/similar route a few weeks later during the months of July and August. When are you planning your trip?

Re: Cycle Touring Festival - May 2015 - Lancashire

5 March 2015 - 8:22am
Fretz54 wrote:I was very keen on going to this event untill I saw the cost of the tickets. Then thought it was rather expensive. I can camp for arounf £10 per night so £75 seemed a lot of money to me.
The event is now sold out, so I guess the price was not a factor for others.

Re: Cycle Touring Festival - May 2015 - Lancashire

5 March 2015 - 8:18am
Fretz54 wrote:I was very keen on going to this event untill I saw the cost of the tickets. Then thought it was rather expensive. I can camp for arounf £10 per night so £75 seemed a lot of money to me.

it's not cheap but theres food, they have to pay guest speakers and I don't imagine there's thousands of attendees so economies of scale don't kick in! I took the view that it's a fairly rare occurrence and I would really like to see more of this type of event so felt it was worthwhile supporting it and encouraging he organisers. So really a small chance for me to influence getting this type of event up and running, I think it will be informative and fun so worth a go. There's not a lot of people local to me into touring so it would be nice to hear the views of others as well.

Re: Warmshowers "membership" charges.

5 March 2015 - 8:11am
Having hosted numerous long distance tourers over the last 15 years whilst living in various locations in Africa (due to work), and although a regular tourer in the UK and Europe when work permits have never used the Warmshowers as a guest. I believe it is a little unacceptable to expect to be forced to pay a subscription.
I have hosted 4 groups in the last 6 weeks, provided clean bedding, hot water, (and often the the first hot shower for weeks), laundry facilities, food and drink at my cost, why would I wish to pay for providing this service??

I also note from the Warmshowers website, donations run into the 10's of thousands, surely this can cover costs/expenses for volunteers instead of paying full-time salaries greater than the average UK salary

Re: Cycle Touring Festival - May 2015 - Lancashire

5 March 2015 - 6:57am
I was very keen on going to this event untill I saw the cost of the tickets. Then thought it was rather expensive. I can camp for arounf £10 per night so £75 seemed a lot of money to me.

Re: Weight distribution.

5 March 2015 - 12:41am
Mick F wrote:My first foray with four panniers.
My bike felt like a tank, so the next time I went off touring, I bought a trailer.


I would prefer not to use a trailer as it adds maybe 6-7 kg extra weight? But as I am heavy I dont have much choice until I lose some weight

Re: Weight distribution.

5 March 2015 - 12:36am
jamesgilbert wrote:I'm not sure when it changed, but I haven't seen any people loaded like this: http://site.cty.free.fr/images/historiq ... ique12.jpg I have only been touring for a few years though!

I got my bike from a touring bike shop in Paris, the only frame options were Surly or Fahrradmanufaktur...

I suppose she sits on the rack at the back? thats why no panniers there?

Re: Weight distribution.

5 March 2015 - 12:33am
what hamster said.

It depends so much on your bikes, your relative weight/fitness, routes and what type of touring you are doing. If you are camping AND cooking, its hard to avoid front panniers. Not that you would want to on most touring bikes because they are designed to be front loaded. On my old 'touring bike' (basically a mtb with solid forks) I loaded 60:40 front/back and it still handled like a blancmange!, but with my new dedicated touring bike that has a rear-heavy Rohloff hub, I now load more like 55:45 or probably 50:50 with bar bag and it handles beautifully. Ms Slogfester has just 2 rear panniers on her 'touring' bike (a hybrid with derailleur) and is OK, but she is erring towards having front panniers for better handling. Weight distribution between us is dictated by our relative strength and terrain. I carry all the heavy camping/cooking/food stuff. If its steep/long and I'm pulling away, I grab some of her inner bags. On the flat it makes little or no difference.

Front low rider racks are brilliant for handling, but -yes- can lack clearance off-road, so either use smaller bags and/or high-rider racks.

Re: Cable lock in hand baggage?

5 March 2015 - 12:01am
Some feedback to share and as thanks for everyones contributions:

Pedals in hand luggage were fine. Thermos was queried in one airport but allowed. Tent (Ti) pegs spotted and (understandably) threatened with expulsion. It was my mistake, having forgot that they were wrapped in the tent inner (desperate last minute attempt to shed checked-in luggage), but I pleaded with security and they let me through. One security guy got upset by inner tubes!

In short, its a frustrating lottery! Dependent upon geo-politics, date/time of travel (busy/empty, staffing etc), airport, staff training/experience/mood, plane (cargo capacity), passenger/cargo payload, route, destination, airline, luck, etc

Re: Is there a Round Britain route info thread?

4 March 2015 - 11:20pm
Possibly this year. I'm not good at organising a definite date but before the children break up for school and I want to do the south coast-LE-Bristol-London leg first. Then I'll start the London- Bristol-Cardiff and Wales leg later. That is as far as my planning has got.No date to start as it depends on a couple of things I need to complete to free up time.

Re: panniers panniers panniers???

4 March 2015 - 11:16pm
Ortleib rollers for me. Bought a new set two years ago after my previous were taken from the garage. I wouldn't be without them. I also use nautical dry bags inside which come in various litre sizes and are completely dry on the top of the rack.http://www.over-board.co.uk/dry-bags.html

Re: Has anyone cycled EuroveloR1 all the way to St Petersber

4 March 2015 - 7:24pm
No direct experience but seem to remember reading some bad stuff about Russian roads and drivers.

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

4 March 2015 - 5:47pm
As for food, it is expensive. However, local produce that cannot be exported can be really cheap. I lived on smoked salmon offcuts (left over from filleting) and ripe strawberries! Avoid buying alcohol, bring in a bottle of duty-free scotch for instant Norwegian friends at campsites...

Re: Turkey april2015

4 March 2015 - 2:23pm
pal wrote:Just in case you were wondering, Muslims in Tromso (there are some), which will have no sunset during this year's Ramadan, observe fast using the sunrise/sunset times in Mecca, thus finding a way of being permitted to eat. But probably there are many Muslims in places not quite so extremely north, eg Britain, who will be trying to fast for 18 hours or so per day.

Funnily enough, I was wondering about that (that is: how Norwegian Muslims cope with midsummer Ramadan) just the other day! Thanks for solving the mystery...
Another great source for information.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/

Re: Turkey april2015

4 March 2015 - 1:19pm
Just in case you were wondering, Muslims in Tromso (there are some), which will have no sunset during this year's Ramadan, observe fast using the sunrise/sunset times in Mecca, thus finding a way of being permitted to eat. But probably there are many Muslims in places not quite so extremely north, eg Britain, who will be trying to fast for 18 hours or so per day.

Funnily enough, I was wondering about that (that is: how Norwegian Muslims cope with midsummer Ramadan) just the other day! Thanks for solving the mystery...

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

4 March 2015 - 11:42am
One of the previous threads includes a link to this site https://weatherspark.com/averages/28849 ... der-Norway
which is useful for understanding possible weather conditions.

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

4 March 2015 - 10:25am
Just so you know. These charts show both the long term average weather and what actually happened last year.
http://www.yr.no/sted/Norge/Vest-Agder/ ... stikk.html
http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Rogaland/ ... stics.html
http://www.yr.no/sted/Norge/Hordaland/B ... stikk.html
So the averages are fairly dismal even by the standards of Scotland, but the extremes are more extreme than Scotland. It can be really rather cold and wet, but also from time to time really very hot, which is mostly likely to happen in July. Summer can sometimes start to slip away quickly in late August.

Re: Turkey april2015

4 March 2015 - 10:15am
This year Ramadan starts on June 18th, though it can be the 19th or even 20th since religious authorities refuse to rely on calculations and require visual confirmation which can be impeded by clouds, glare of the sun, etc - it's particularly tricky trying to spot the new moon the instant it occurs because it is very close to the sun in the sky and moonset is very close to sunset at this phase. It will last until 16 July, ish. So you have potentially got a couple of months or so to get out of the place before Ramadan comes along.

Just in case you were wondering, Muslims in Tromso (there are some), which will have no sunset during this year's Ramadan, observe fast using the sunrise/sunset times in Mecca, thus finding a way of being permitted to eat. But probably there are many Muslims in places not quite so extremely north, eg Britain, who will be trying to fast for 18 hours or so per day.

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

4 March 2015 - 9:51am
When I did it I used an excellent guide system by Castor, a Norwegian company, that was made of laminated maps of the route and showed all the campsites, roads, shops, etc. It made the whole thing much easier, the maps were laminated and designed to fit into a bar bag map case. I'll see if I still have our and you can have it for a tenner, I was thinking of doing the route again but probably never will do shan't need it. Send me PM.
It's an excellent route by the way, quiet roads and very scenic.

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