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Re: panniers panniers panniers???

9 November 2014 - 9:26am
If it's possible take your bike to a shop with a range and try them out. You'll find out how the fittings work with your particular rack, if you've got enough heel clearance etc. etc.

I like Ortliebs, not really about the waterproofing (as noted, all it takes is a plastic bag, though I'd go for a rubble sack rather than a binliner as they don't rip nearly so easily, and if touring you'll probably want liners anyway so when you need to put e.g. a wet jacket or tent in you don't get all your dry stuff wet) but more about the ease of use and quality of the fittings. To lock the pannier on to the rack, let go of the handle. To unlock, pick up by the handle. I appreciate that every time I use them, rather than if it's raining.

Also have a think about how you like compartments. If you like lots of separate places with independent access then a One-Big-Bag style probably isn't best, and vice versa. This is again something that's easier to work out with them in your hands in front of you, rather than a third party recommendation and some interweb pictures.

Pete.

Re: panniers panniers panniers???

9 November 2014 - 9:08am
+1 for the RCP bags.
I've had mine since July this year and they're brilliant. Very large capacity (45ltr I think) and literally airtight when closed. Water won't get into these. The mounts are adjustable to fit pretty much any rack.
These do a similar job to ortliebs for half the cost.

Re: panniers panniers panniers???

9 November 2014 - 8:02am
I have some of those disklock things.

Including a really nice small pair that i use on the back for day rides.

Goes off into a corner to weep for now long lost karrimor - my partner is from the middle of the Med and even as a young woman out there was aware of the company's reputation for quality.

On the OP if they also use the bike for shopping at all I'd splash out and go for Ortlieb now - I bought a pair almost 20 years ago and they still look fine after ferrying all sorts if stuff. Have long since paid for themselves.

Re: Map(s) of Wales

8 November 2014 - 8:26pm
mcallaghan wrote:Trying to avoid bringing my phone as well (I live in the US) due to the international charges etc. I think I can pickup a prepaid phone for cheap in case of emergencies? Or count on my mate who lives in the UK that is going to come with me on having a phone. I do have a GPS (Garmin 500 I think) but it has a battery life of 8 hours before needing a charge, and I am not sure how frequent I'll have access to electricity while camping most nights. I got away with it in Ireland as well (but did have my Laptop + GPS and did the B&B thing the whole time).

Those CycleCity Wales maps look pretty decent and at that price, much cheaper than the other options I've seen. Something to give me an idea of what is around the route, potential hills, campsites, castles, etc.


My American friends get prepaid phones when they come here. In fact, I think they arrange it from the States, but not sure how they do it. I think you can PM me, if you want me to ask them how.
Good luck with your trip.

Re: panniers panniers panniers???

8 November 2014 - 8:22pm
Karrimor are now ancient and obsolete - only for those who have some that need replacing - me - in my case I have the best ones with the disc lock to attach to the carrier. I got some nice almost mint ones from Ebay the other week that will just drop in where my old ones went. Altura make some not too costly panniers that I would otherwise consider

Re: panniers panniers panniers???

8 November 2014 - 6:42pm
I don't know what size you are after but I bought a set of these for commuting with as they are 100% waterproof. The waterproof bit was important to me as I carry laptops and tablet etc.. to work.

RCP WP100 carrier bags Colour black 2015 bike panniers https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002RLGWHA/ ... xub1HMMANV

You can also get some smaller pockets that attach to the front for keys and phone etc.. Red Cycling Products Outer Bag bike panniers black 2015 bike panniers waterproof https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00F40XYTK/ ... xub09V1GHA

Re: panniers panniers panniers???

8 November 2014 - 6:24pm
Or you could buy some budget panniers to start with, such as Altura. They are cheap but certainly not nasty. They won't suddenly disintegrate mid ride, and you can obtain very high levels of water proofing by lining them with - a bin liner. Replaced every trip.
Buy the expensive stuff when you have a clearer idea of what you need.

panniers panniers panniers???

8 November 2014 - 5:01pm
Hope you don't all get sick of seeing my name crop up all the time haha. . .new to all this mallarky .
I searching all the site's reading all reviews. . but it's a mine field out there. .
WHAT PANNIERS ARRRRRRRRRR. . . . Carradice . . Vaude. . Ortlileb . . all great panniers by all account's , but which one's to go for?
I'm swaying towards Carradice,whether it be Carradry's or Super C's but just seen Karrimor on ebay . . don't no what to do.
Don't mine paying out for quality,cause if I do end up and become a veteran tourer, they be worth the money and if I don't i'll reclaim a lump of my outlay back. .
What to do ?

Re: ROSE BIKE'S UK . .

8 November 2014 - 4:53pm
wasn't goin to get wheels built yet due to budget,
been quoted by local wheel builder 700c mavic rims, deore hubs, aci spokes,32 hole's £150 seems reasonable

Re: Traveling by Train.

8 November 2014 - 3:37pm
Now that I didn't know bicycler.

Is there something to click/tick or does it default to that?

I usually use East Coast booking.

All the best from a fellow miser

Re: ROSE BIKE'S UK . .

8 November 2014 - 3:33pm
Cheapest and best selection of DT Swiss spokes I've found for wheel building. Shipping is as quick as most UK site.

Re: ROSE BIKE'S UK . .

8 November 2014 - 2:45pm
I building my ridgeback hybrid up for touring. . most things fishing for on ebay, panniers, crank & rear mech. .
but as for new things the saddle cant be over looked(but thinking of perserverving with my velo saddle for the moment), the rack's also new as the haven't had a hard life.
Thanks once again for you replys

Re: UK to Prague via northern Germany

8 November 2014 - 2:21pm
Anne Sels wrote:Also - if you don't mind investing in route maps, publicpress.de has a series of maps of existing German routes without all the blah blah like the booklet ones...might just check here to see what routes could be possible options for your tour...



The only problem with the PP route booklets is the lack of detail on the maps - i've got several and providing you don't need to move off the route they are fine but any deviation can leave you without a clue!

Re: Traveling by Train.

8 November 2014 - 2:14pm
You shouldn't need to bring anything along. Ticket office staff are required to be impartial and sell you the cheapest appropriate ticket for your journey. If there happens to be an Advance ticket available for the train(s) you wish to take then this should be offered to you automatically.

The advantage of looking at prices online is that you know in advance which trains to ask for and the price of the ticket. You can also take time to research savings through things like split tickets which a booking clerk at a station understandably does not have the time to do. They can, however, sell you whichever tickets you have decided on.

I've had very few problems doing this but there are some potential problems:

The complexity of the system means that booking engines occasionally don't agree; some will offer tickets which aren't strictly valid (though once issued they will be honoured) and others won't recognise a valid ticket. You sometimes even get differences between different online booking engines. Anyway, there's a small chance of the system used at the booking office not recognising a ticket which was showing as available online. If you had a printout of the itinerary shown on the online booking site this may convince a clerk to look harder to see if they had made a mistake or oversight, but it won't help in a case of "computer says no".

A tiny number of operator-specific tickets and occasional promotional offers are only available through that operator's website so not available at booking offices. Conversely some good value local tickets are not available online, for example the Greater Manchester Rail Ranger offers £5 unlimited off-peak travel throughout the GM area (it can be a good split ticket).

Lastly, there's always the chance that somebody may book the last Advance ticket between the time of you searching online and you getting to the station.

You know you can get tickets posted to you? (I know it costs £1 but the convenience might be worth it)
If you are starting from a station without collection facilities some websites will send tickets by 1st Class post for free. East Coast is one which springs to mind. I have a miserly objection to paying fees to book or receive tickets

Re: Traveling by Train.

8 November 2014 - 1:29pm
Yes I do - in fact I used that system before a lot.

Since the networked ticket machines came in though I have developed a preference for getting the things in my mitts (well in advance of travel).

Tickets through the post always made me feel a bit worried even though I never had a problem.

Re: Traveling by Train.

8 November 2014 - 1:20pm
Sweep wrote: - in the past I have had to book a ticket online and then pedal 20 miles to Preston to pick them up from the machine there - even though I would be departing from said very local small station - manned but no computer networked ticket machine for spewing out online booked tickets.


You know you can get tickets posted to you? (I know it costs £1 but the convenience might be worth it)

Re: Traveling by Train.

8 November 2014 - 12:34pm
Thanks for that bicycler.

I had some sort of dim idea that that might be the case.

If doing this what info do you quote to the ticket office to get the price you have found on line?

This might be handy if ever need a ticket in said NW small town - in the past I have had to book a ticket online and then pedal 20 miles to Preston to pick them up from the machine there - even though I would be departing from said very local small station - manned but no computer networked ticket machine for spewing out online booked tickets.

all the best - your knowledge on these matters is invaluable and I was kind of expecting you to be along.

Re: Traveling by Train.

8 November 2014 - 12:22pm
Main drawback is that the refund comes in rail vouchers which are tricky to use for later online discounted tickets.
Contrary to what The Trainline and their ilk would have us believe, tickets that are available online are (with very few exceptions) also available to purchase at any railway station (not London Underground) with a booking office. You can find a ticket online and purchase it at your local station with your vouchers.

Re: Traveling by Train.

8 November 2014 - 12:08pm
Ron wrote:The sheer volume of tips and advice on this thread proves, I think, that rail travel in the UK is just too complex an issue for mere mortals. Particularly if these mortals don't want or can't afford to pay the maximum fare!

I agree totally.

Now and again the oddities pay off.

Last year I booked a ticket from London to a small Lancashire town via Manchester - beyond Manchester.

Christmas Eve which I would have thought was super super peak.

For some reason it was only £16, even though to travel less distance ie: just to Manchester, or Preston taking the other route, would have been more.

Figure that out.

As it was the Virgin train to Manchester was late, meaning I arrived in said NW town an hour late.

Got a refund form and got the entire amount back - so the trip cost nowt.

Do check the delay compensation schemes - I think it's 50 per cent back if 30 mins late, 100 per cent if an hour.

I get the feeling that this scheme isn't as well known as it might be and the Virgin rep at Manchester Picadilly looked rather peeved when I asked for one.

Main drawback is that the refund comes in rail vouchers which are tricky to use for later online discounted tickets.

Luckily I discovered that they can be used to put credit on a London Oyster card.

Re: UK to Prague via northern Germany

8 November 2014 - 9:45am
Some great information Anne + you've touched on my next question: what is camping like in Holland and Germany + sources of information?

I am planing to cycle from either the Hook of Holland or Amsterdam to Berlin - any natural / good routes I should consider?

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