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Re: Advice sought on choosing a touring bike

25 February 2015 - 8:00am
Last year saw us ride PD bridleways with trailer and child seat options for our lad. White Dales area near high peak trail. Used mtb style hybrid and she had a mtb. Rocky trail, would the rb Expedition be needed or would you get by with a 700c tourer? Are thin mtb tyres that much stronger on these small wheel tourers?

Re: Bikes on Belgian trains

25 February 2015 - 7:48am
Does anyone know what time specifically the rush hour restrictions apply to?

Re: Flying with German Wings

25 February 2015 - 12:27am
When they say box, they almost certainly mean a bespoke cardboard box for carrying a bike. The sort you get for free at your LBS or occasionally supplied by the airline.

Bag is more open to interpretation. You could argue the CTC poly thing is a bag they may agree or disagree.

I always use a box to save any arguments.

One airline included bag wrap as an option, I used domestic clingfilm and got away with it. Not recommended, but very portable!!

Re: Flying with German Wings

24 February 2015 - 10:59pm
Regarding cycle paths from the airport, have a look at http://www.ridewithgps.com. Select the "plan" tab and choose the OSM Cycle map (top right corner of the map) and I think you'll find what you need.

Re: Advice sought on choosing a touring bike

24 February 2015 - 9:55pm
I have just bought a Dawes Galaxy Classic from Winstanley's..superb value for money..almost half price.The saving has allowed me to purchase some top of the range rear panniers (ARKEL)and a Brooks B17 Select saddle..also Brooks leather handlebar tape.If you contact Winstanleys and tell them which models you are interested in they will offer you a chance to try them out.They have a number of cycles on display but not their complete range.I notice you live in the Lake District so it would be a short sprint down the M6 to visit them....Best wishes.

Re: North Germany to Berlin

24 February 2015 - 9:55pm
Keep off the main road to Rostock - heavy traffic (lots of lorries) and a scary lip from tbe road surface to the dirt on the side.

Flying with German Wings

24 February 2015 - 8:59pm
I've got a flight booked to Cologne with germanwings.com. Their policy states that the bike must be in a cycle bag or box. Will the CTC poly bike bag or a cardboard box from the lbs be enough or are they expecting the more 'formal' (expensive & bulky) ones? Has anyone had any experience of this airline?

As an additional point, has anyone cycled from the airport to the centre of Cologne? Are there suitabele bike paths?
Cheers

Re: Shane goes lightweight :)

24 February 2015 - 8:52pm
shane wrote:http://www.shanecycles.com/packing-list-3-weeks-bikepacking-in-spain/ thanks

Re: Advice sought on choosing a touring bike

24 February 2015 - 8:37pm
Tangled Metal - this Jamis Bosa Nova is a great looking bike:

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/jamis/bosa-nova-2015-touring-bike-ec072111

Mechanical disk brakes, decent frame but no pannier racks. £765.

You might even be able to find it cheaper elsewhere. Just thought I'd post it for you (not wanting to add to your confusion!).

Re: Marathon Dureme tyres

24 February 2015 - 7:55pm
I wasn't really questioning the qualities of the Dureme, just wondering if the one in that link which seems like a good deal, is the genuine version, or some lesser version, because I know Schwalbe's naming system for tyres is quite complex.

I'd be looking at the 26x2.00 ideally folding, but not really sure if I want it for more than the Iceland trip yet..

Turkey april2015

24 February 2015 - 7:19pm
We are biking APRIL/ AUGUST from ANCHORA TO CAPPADOCIA THEN EAST TO KONYA ISPARTA PAMUKKALE EPHESUS AND THEN ACROSS TO GREECE / ALBANIA / ITALY /fRANCE . WE SEEK FACTUAL ADVICE ABOUT THE ROAD FROM ANCHORA OUT TO GORMEME PLEASE are there placeses to access water and food as I am told its a total wilderness this particular route? any other advice is appreciated we cant access decent topographical map of turkey! BREIGE

Re: Marathon Dureme tyres

24 February 2015 - 6:44pm
I bought a pair of Duremes (wire beaded version) which were so slow and harsh riding I removed them after 20 miles and never used them again.

They felt so slow I was prompted to do a roll down test comparing them to the Vittorias I replaced them with. The Duremes were indeed 10% slower. And that was on a hill steep enough to have end speeds at 25mph where air resistance would be mattering as much as rolling resistance.


That said for a tough tyre for on/off road use the Duremes will fit the bill. Your not anywhere near Glasgow - I've a pair going free to a good home.

Edit - probably a goood choice for Iceland actually.

Re: Is there a Round Britain route info thread?

24 February 2015 - 6:30pm
Hi Jaydeepee

Have you looked at Josie Dew's book "Slow Coast Home". She cycled round Britain and Wales (not Scotland). There are pen drawings of the route with Towns marked. She also cycle camps so might be useful to you.

Re: Advice sought on choosing a touring bike

24 February 2015 - 6:21pm
Hey Tangled Metal,

For me this is a big spend to make and before pushing the button I need to know from people with a similar bike (although your's is the higher model i think you can give me an idea what the lower spec model is like

I will definitely follow up with a bit of a review of the bike. I completely understand where you are coming from - budget-wise. It was the same for me - the Expedition looks good and the Voyage, from what I have read, also gets a lot of praise. The bike should be here by the weekend and I will likely get a chance to ride it on Sunday but not going too far, might just do 10-15 miles to start with, to get a feel for her!

Initially I was looking at the Genesis Tour de Fer - no doubt a very good looking bike but the lack of reviews available online and the fact it's retail price is £300 less than the RB Panorama at £899 (all of its components are under par with the Panorama's, but it comes with mechanical disk brakes).

The Cinelli also looks like a great bike but I'm not sure if you need to spend so much - perhaps the Spa bike is a good compromise from overspending by too much?

I am thinking of unsurfaced towpaths through to gravely tracks in the Lakes (e.g. the side of Windermere near High Wray down to ferry nab for example

This is no problem - I did it last year on my road bike with slicks!! OK, I did take it easy but still there is very little need for 26 inch wheels on such a surface unless you are absolutely powering through there, screaming at tourists to 'Get out the way!!'.

I only went all in on the Panorama because I am limited for time (I couldn't spend many more hours looking on the net), found one for a superb pricce. If you can wait then my advice is to do so. But if you have an 'itch' it really isn't long before it needs scratching!

Take it easy

Re: Marathon Dureme tyres

24 February 2015 - 5:11pm
We've been using the tandem-orioented version of the 26" Dureme for a couple of years, and really like them. Excellent on gravel, surprisingly agile and quiet on tarmac, but not happy-making in mud. (Mud's not a big issue most of the time on the Canadian prairies.)

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

24 February 2015 - 4:22pm
Its a 14-day tour (9 days of riding, followed by 4 days off the bike before I fly back) and staying in B&Bs the whole time, thus the extra clothes. I may bring them and decided to leave some pairs in my suitcase at my start/end city (have arrangements with my lodging to do so). But, I have a full weekend in Cardiff at the end of the cycling, then a day involving a 3 hr train ride, then another full day of non-cycling to explore Chester. Which is why I was thinking of taking more off-the-bike clothes so I can be clean and comfortable at the end.

Re: Advice sought on choosing a touring bike

24 February 2015 - 3:43pm
Tangled Metal wrote:I took a little while to get used to flat bars, seriously I think they are weird coming from decades of road bike riding (drop bars) so just how long would I take to get safe enough on a 'bent to commute in traffic????


I took about a week from first getting going to being properly happy on benign roads, and after a month I'd tackle anything I'd tackle on an upwrong. A lot of it's about how easily you can relax.

When I say "traffic" I mean the stop-start kind where you might want to do lots of filtering. Flowing traffic is no particular problem, and I find the WTF? Factor gets me quite a lot more space on the road. Stop-start traffic probably sin't any quicker on a road bike than a hybrid. Offroad, we've tackled bits of NCN that are "not suitable for loaded tourers" when using them for, errrr, loaded touring.

Main issue is price, but places like D-Tek have a good second hand stock and it becomes a bit more sensible.

Pete.

Re: Advice sought on choosing a touring bike

24 February 2015 - 3:35pm
pjclinch wrote:You want aero... but you don't need a drop bar machine. If you want to do aero better, while maintaining riding comfort and pilot view, consider a suitable recumbent. I'm not so keen on mine in town as it's not so manoeuvrable in traffic, but on the open road it's far, far more comfortable (no weight on your arms and a comfy chair to sit in), gives me a better view of where I'm going and carries luggage better. Not great off-road, but while it's not exactly a MTB it certainly isn't stuck if the tarmac ends.

Recumbents vary far more than upwrongs between models so you do have to choose carefully, and always try before you buy because you can't assume that one is much like another. But if you want fast and tour-capable, something along the lines of an HPVel Speedmachine (http://www.kinetics-online.co.uk/recumbents/hpvelotechnik/speedmachine/) might be the sort of direction to go in.

Pete.
I'm sure I omnce saw a touring 'bent on an outdoors forum last year. It looked off road perched near a tent with specially designed panniers. Looked like it would load up very nicely for touring. Not even on my radar as I will be commuting a lot on the bike and plan to go offroad too. I took a little while to get used to flat bars, seriously I think they are weird coming from decades of road bike riding (drop bars) so just how long would I take to get safe enough on a 'bent to commute in traffic????

I knew a guy who got one but after his first ride out with his cycling wife she put her foot down and he was not allowed to ride it in her presence again. Found that funny because it was possibly the only thing she has put her foot down about between them since they are just so alike in what their interests are.

Re: Advice sought on choosing a touring bike

24 February 2015 - 3:30pm
I have the money for a really good bike but savings for a rainy day approach means my strong willpower will stop me breaking the comfortable spend limit of £800 (or up to £850 all in at a push). Of course that steering stop and the storage for 2 spokes nearly sold the expensive Cinelli for me even though I have never broken a spoke in my life or needed to use a steering stop. But I have that strong willpower I mentioned so I won't spend that much.

PS I gave my willpower house space a few years ago and I have not spent so little on gear and so much on the house since!!! Funny how that happens.

Re: Advice sought on choosing a touring bike

24 February 2015 - 3:24pm
You want aero... but you don't need a drop bar machine. If you want to do aero better, while maintaining riding comfort and pilot view, consider a suitable recumbent. I'm not so keen on mine in town as it's not so manoeuvrable in traffic, but on the open road it's far, far more comfortable (no weight on your arms and a comfy chair to sit in), gives me a better view of where I'm going and carries luggage better. Not great off-road, but while it's not exactly a MTB it certainly isn't stuck if the tarmac ends.

Recumbents vary far more than upwrongs between models so you do have to choose carefully, and always try before you buy because you can't assume that one is much like another. But if you want fast and tour-capable, something along the lines of an HPVel Speedmachine (http://www.kinetics-online.co.uk/recumbents/hpvelotechnik/speedmachine/) might be the sort of direction to go in.

Pete.

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