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Inverness to Kilmarnock 5 day tour

31 August 2014 - 8:38pm
Hi

Have some free time and have a hankering for a short Scottish tour travelling light. My plan is to take the sleeper up to Inverness on the Sunday night and go back down from Glasgow the Friday after. Initial thoughts are

Day 1 Inverness -> Kyle of Lochalsh 80 miles
Day 2 A loop round Skye - 80 miles
Armadale -> Mallaig ferry
Day 3 Mallaig -> Oban 86 miles (YHS or B&B)
Day 4 = Oban -> Tarbert -> Claonaig -> (ferry) Lochranza (stay in YHS) 65 miles
Day 5 - Lochranza -> Brodick -> (ferry) Ardrossan -> Kilmarnock 50 miles (visit my Mum before heading up to Glasgow for the sleeper)

Definitely want to stay in Oban and Lochranza but unsure about overnights around Skye? Would appreciate advice on good places to stay and a good loop around Skye.

Planning to travel light with Carradice Barley saddlebag on the back and Carradice zipped roll up front on lightweight road bike, am thinking

# wearing
Bib Shorts
Vest
s/s jersey
socks
gloves
helmet
shoes

# front zipped roll bag
arm warmers
leg warmers
Overshoes
cap
iphone,
garmin,
charger,
wallet,
glasses

# barley saddlebag - this will be a squeeze
underwear
spare socks
lightweight trousers (unzip to shorts)
long sleeve thin thermal vest
lightweight fleece jacket
waterproof jacket
waterproof trousers

Suggestions welcomed

Many thanks

Simon

Re: Ditching my Hybrid for a full Spec Tourer

31 August 2014 - 8:20pm
mercalia wrote:If i had the space and money I would keep both - you dont want to use the "nice" bike for runs to the shops etc

Spanners in my spokes Mercalia! I wish, but I can't have everything. I've got to say I did an 11 mile "coffee and cake" run to another village in the Sun today and I softened towards keeping my Specialized Globe City 3.1 as a "spare". I was looking at the hub gears and dynamo lighting while cleaning it this evening and marveling at the build quality and usefulness. It's on eBay and that is that. I am driven. I am tight. I don't have the space. I would birch myself for having two bikes. AND I might just need another shed!........hhc

Re: Ditching my Hybrid for a full Spec Tourer

31 August 2014 - 8:13pm
HowardW wrote:It's not a proper mid life crisis until it involves a Rohloff Speedhub....

I agree on the trucker mines a disc trucker the colour is lovely.

Here's mine! (trucker not mid life crisis honest)
http://10mileseachway.blogspot.co.uk/

(somewhere on there anyway)

Cracking blog Howard! I pleased to see long hair and a beard. I am with brethren. Heh heh. My 12 year old daughter has stopped coming out on rides with me but my 4 year old happily perches on the back for fair distances but isn't quite up to 10 miles yet. Good on your daughter. That's hard on little legs. The sailing looks good. I used to coach Level 5 RYA in a past life.

As for the colour? I'm keen on the green Disc Trucker being a gardener. Almost everything I own is green including my pick-up truck. Sad I am................hc

Re: Ditching my Hybrid for a full Spec Tourer

31 August 2014 - 8:06pm
phil parker wrote:I'm fortunate enough to own a few bikes, all to my specification, without being unsensibly restricted by budget. These include a Thorn Exp (expedition standard bike); a Genesis Croix de Fer, in touring spec for medium weight touring, and a Roberts Compact Sportive that I have over-abused for cycle-camping, and it has coped admirably, but is not really robust enough for the state of the roads today when loaded with 15 kgs of tent & luggage.

They all have their strengths and weaknesses for touring, but if you plan to go touring, which I assume you do, then you are right to specify a touring bike for your very needs. The Surley Long a Haul Trucker would, of course, be an excellent choice (for any tourer) -so perhaps you could narrow down or specify your question for a touring bike? What type of touring are you planning to do? How long, how often etc.?

Otherwise, if you are looking for support - then you've come to the right place - I would certainly agree with your decision. I would disagree that it is a mid-life crisis at 40, you've got another 10 or 15 years to go for a real mid-life crisis!

Cheers Phil. No questions yet, but you'll regret giving me a comfy chair coz they will come! Listen out because what I have realised is that some of the bike tech has changed so much since I was really serious about biking that I am really feeling old. Thankfully with age comes a tiny bit more disposable cash that I didn't have when I was commuting to my £45.00 a day landscaoing job in my 20s.........hc

Re: Ditching my Hybrid for a full Spec Tourer

31 August 2014 - 8:00pm
MartinBrice wrote:The choice pf which bike to buy is very easy.
European tarmac? Dawes Galaxy with Marathon tyres or Panaracer Pasela Tourguard tyres. Perhaps a Thorn Sherpa.
Cross Africa, Patagonia, crap roads? Perhaps a Thorn Raven. Nomad, 26 inch wheels so you can buy tyres anywhere. Surly also good. Strong frame.
Or maybe go for a lighter frame, handmade specially for you? Roberts of Croydon.
Short of money? Go to halfords.
In China? Buy a £25 bike.
Which only goes to show that you can ride almost anything to almost amywhere. If you have a decent local bike shop, ask them or ring Thorn, which is what I did.
YMMV

Thanks Martin. I have a friend who has made blood brothers with his Thorn and rode round Oz so obviously tried to sell me down this route. I just don't have the budget. Surly is an option so far.......hc

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

31 August 2014 - 7:44pm
I've done maybe 50 tours with my 18 years old Backroller Classics. Have yet to replace a part. Still watertight.

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

31 August 2014 - 7:31pm
Sweep wrote:Interesting thread as I'm thinking of getting some Back Rollers - already have Bike Packers - very neat but the lack of flexibility in stuffing in that bit extra at the top can be a problem.....

I would be the opposite here...had the Classics for around 15 well used years (now relegated to occasional use around town) and back-packer pluses [BPP] for over a year with around 2000 odd miles on tour comfort camping so far.

Despite Ortlieb specs there is considerably much room inside the BPP than the rollers if you choose to use it and IMO BPP are a lot more flexible in that you have the choice of using the considerable space under the lid but not actually inside the bag if the top drawstrings are pulled.

I use the lid space to pop in daily purchases, coats etc and keep them separate from the main compartments. If its looking showery at the start of a day I load my waterproofs under one lid for quick withdrawal and return. Perfect for when they may be damp when put away....

In my view Rollers for simplicity and BPP's for versatility - either way both are superb in strength and design.

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

31 August 2014 - 5:00pm
Interesting thread as I'm thinking of getting some Back Rollers - already have Bike Packers - very neat but the lack of flexibility in stuffing in that bit extra at the top can be a problem.

On a sort of related point before I go ahead and buy, what colour would folk suggest for visibility/safety?

Red seems to be the natural choice, but others may have different opinions ....

Re: Ditching my Hybrid for a full Spec Tourer

31 August 2014 - 3:49pm
If i had the space and money I would keep both - you dont want to use the "nice" bike for runs to the shops etc

Re: Ditching my Hybrid for a full Spec Tourer

31 August 2014 - 1:50pm
It's not a proper mid life crisis until it involves a Rohloff Speedhub....

I agree on the trucker mines a disc trucker the colour is lovely.

Here's mine! (trucker not mid life crisis honest)
http://10mileseachway.blogspot.co.uk/

(somewhere on there anyway)

Re: Thames path

31 August 2014 - 9:15am
makes u wonder how on earth the Thames comes from that!

Re: Satmap Protective Case anyone?

31 August 2014 - 8:53am
I use one has been water tight so far, got it for the extra protection .does make using the buttons a bit of a fiddle On satmap 10 taking off the protective lens to add the cover generally means
if you us the waterproof cover you have to leave the other protector home

Satmap Protective Case anyone?

31 August 2014 - 7:59am
I have just bought one of these
https://satmap.com/accessories/proshiel ... black.html

This thing is for use with the bike mount
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The bike mount back for the Active 10/12 is still employed with this case
So the attachment sticks through a large slit in the back of the case

Waterproof? - I think not
However The rubber of the case does seem to press against the back of the device when on the mount so it may be a bit more waterproof than it looks.

Anyone know for sure if the slit in the back lets in water while employed

Re: Thames path

31 August 2014 - 6:05am
Here is a photo of the stone marking the source of the River Thames. It's in a a remote Gloucestershire meadow full of grazing dairy cows.rsz_img_1352.jpg

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