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Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

20 May 2015 - 5:03pm
When I was trying to win over my wife to touring, I started with short rides at her pace and I involved her in all of the planning, including where to stay. Our first tour was a local one, through Leicestershire, Rutland and Northamptonshire for 3 days, between 30 and 40 miles per day and staying in B&B's. We both loved seeing our local area from a different viewpoint. I would suggest going touring in your own area. Norfolk and Suffolk are beautiful counties, have plenty of variety and some fabulous quiet lanes, off-road traffic free parts and the sea! Also, no significant hills and a very nice selection of cafes

Re: Cycle Touring Festival - May 2015 - Lancashire

20 May 2015 - 5:01pm
Would confirm the earlier comments,great weekend!
Lots of interest & good to meet so many others with simliar ideas & enthusiasm.
Would certainly stand a repeat sometime.

Re: Islabikes Bienn 29 - tourer for a titch?

20 May 2015 - 4:46pm
Slowroad sorry for the delay. I am 5ft4" and it is just too small for me. The bars and brakes are smaller for the size of bike.

I you want I will pm my mobile number.

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

20 May 2015 - 3:54pm
hamster wrote:From Norfolk I would do a loop of combinations of Kings Lynn, Wisbech, Ely, Cambridge.
Don;t cycle camp for a first tour, enjoy the cycling and a comfortable B&B if possible.
Much as I love our area, I wouldn't recommend combining Wisbech and Ely to try to encourage a new rider. The Welney-Pymoor section is a mix of sometimes-busy roads and bad surfaces at the moment, whereas avoiding them turns a 26 mile ride into a 37 - the centre of March can be lovely, though.

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

20 May 2015 - 3:15pm
From Norfolk I would do a loop of combinations of Kings Lynn, Wisbech, Ely, Cambridge.
Don;t cycle camp for a first tour, enjoy the cycling and a comfortable B&B if possible.

Algarve cycle hire

20 May 2015 - 2:57pm
Would anyone recommend a particular cycle hire company for a stay in the Algarve near Vilamoura? I expect we'll use the urban bikes for short trips if we can but a couple of day trips might be fun. Pretty open about bike type/shape as long as it's practical. Thanks.

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

20 May 2015 - 2:14pm
I can recommend the Devon Coast to Coast much of it traffic free the rest quiet lanes.
We did it starting in Barnstaple which made it about 80 miles so 3-4 days at 20-30miles/day.
You can get the train to Barnstaple then stay overnight (we got a deal at the Royal and Fortesque) and then return from Plymouth.
There is a back-packers hostel (can't remember name) after about 20- 30 miles right on the route and a YHA in Okehampton.
Plenty to see in terms of differing country side. Starts with Estuary, then wooded valleys, skirts past Dartmoor over some viaducts finally through a country park and a quiet industrial docks part of Plymouth and onto the Hoe. Also plenty of pubs along the way.
http://www.sustrans.org.uk/ncn/map/rout ... t-to-coast

Re: Rack Pack for Tubus Airey

20 May 2015 - 2:12pm
pretty much any 'front' panniers - my choice would be Ortliebs. You might get away with some of the smaller rear bags but bear in mind that there isn't the same degree of support - particularly important as the bags lay on the rack rather than hang from.

I have a Ti Carry which takes full size bags but that has the extra rear support bars.

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

20 May 2015 - 2:09pm
Well this is an interesting thread with ideas for routes. 30 miles a day is what my partner is considering for our first tour. I am a keen cyclist and fitter than she is but never toured. She is a slower cyclist but has done a lot of touring in out of the way places that don't get many Western Europeans cycling through. The limit of about 30 miles a day is based on the fact we have a 2 year old child and he is unlikely to go much longer than 1-2 hours in one sitting even in the trailer when asleep. That means a cycle then a walk then a cycle then a walk throughout the day. Plus add in the sometimes 8mph average speed we do we do not get far. This is why I too am looking for something similar to the OP only not in the same area. I've posted for ideas but got none just general advise so I will listen to advise on here.

For my part I wondered about the coast and castles route (or part of it). This is up the east coast through Northumberland ultimately reaching Edinburgh IIRC. A bit far north for the OP's needs perhaps but I heard it is a good route. Perhaps an east coast train journey away from Norfolk?? Perhaps cheaper than a ferry to Europe.

We were considering part of the Danube Way in Austria. That is fairly flat and is tarmac traffic free cycleway the whole section. Loads of people do it each year with it being the most cycled cyclepath in Europe. Nice scenery too. The area is set up for it with cycle hire at towns at each end of the section people tend to do in a week or two with collection of bikes possible too. Plenty of cheap accommodation too.

Re: Myanmar

20 May 2015 - 1:36pm
Myanmar has been in the news for all the wrong reasons over the past week. Muslim refugees have been fleeing the country after sectarian conflict, and the military government, still very much in charge, has been criticised for being above the law. This is a very troubled country with serious human rights abuses happening daily. To some this may seem an unspoilt and interesting part of the world, but I am not sure I would want my holiday funds to contribute to the economy of this country until it is run by a more enlightened government.

Re: Brittany - Voies Vertes

20 May 2015 - 11:44am
No doubt mentioned elsewhere, but I found it difficult to find printed VV maps available to order online - just too many "almost right" choices.

I did find a UK supplier of French topo (OS-style) maps at reasonable prices though

http://www.mapsworldwide.com/

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

20 May 2015 - 11:20am
I come from Essex, so the other end of East Anglia. I would recommend that you just head south!

East Anglia has some great cycling. Varying from heathlands and Broads in Norfolk through some beautiful undulating country in Suffolk and even N Essex is pretty good. Lots of great scenery and plenty of historic buildings eg Lavenham for a start. There is also the coast, varied and beautiful.

If you get the few OS 150,000 maps that cover the area (borrow from library) you can construct a great route. I think I would aim for a bit more than 20 miles as the days are long and that could be over in a couple of hours. A 20 mile morning run followed by the same in the afternoon would be about right.

One advantage is that you will be close to home if you need to bail out for any reason.

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

20 May 2015 - 11:15am
I had a similar issue once, many years ago. I took my reluctant partner on a winter tour in the Yorkshire Dales, it rained nearly all the time, was freezing cold, and a disaster. But we calmed down and tried again. We went on a week's cycle tour in the Scottish highlands (which, perhaps surprisingly, is not very hilly) and conversion occurred.

Re: Getting your bike to Harwich for the ferry

20 May 2015 - 11:11am
axel_knutt wrote:iviehoff wrote:off-peak fares are not valid before 1930 on Abellio trains

Are you sure?

When I wanted to catch a train home using an off-peak ticket I asked the staff on Liverpool Street station how long I had to wait for the end of the peak time, and I was told that I could use any train as peak time only applies in the morning, not the evening. The trains don't have bike spaces, you just bung them in by the door.
The use of evening peak restrictions is a relatively modern innovation, and there are some curiosities due to the inconsistencies of different companies policies.

But it is clear that their conditions do not allow use of off peak tickets in the evening peak.
http://www.abelliogreateranglia.co.uk/t ... conditions
Actually turns out the precise end of off-peak restrictions at Liverpool St is 1834, though the national rail ticket price quoting machine seemed to suggest I couldn't use a 1900 train, possibly because the end-of-peak is 1900 on their trains from Kings Cross, and maybe the ticket offer coding isn't clever enough to distinguish the difference according to departure terminus.

Anyway I've got the bike reservations for 1930, will try to use the 1932 and if it looks bad take the 1930 instead, hopefully there will be enough time for that. It is particularly the fact that it is a Friday before a bank holiday that worries me because I think some trains will be unusually heavily loaded.

Re: Short cycle tour to get my reluctant partner into cyclin

20 May 2015 - 11:03am
Norfolk's beautiful. Could you try some day trips?

Re: route finding in France- maps or new tech

20 May 2015 - 10:49am
Just to add, depending on what type of usb charging device you buy, you don't need to have a battery involved.

When you hub is spinning it creates electricity, the usb device just converts, regulates and smooths it out so that it's useable and won't blow your phone up when you are going down a steep hill!

obviously, you need to be moving for it to work. GPS on a phone is pretty power hungry so i doubt you would be able to charge up a battery at the same time.

You can always just buy a usb rechargeable power pack like

http://www.amazon.co.uk/RAVPower-16000m ... r+bank#Ask

and plug it in to the usb charger when you go not need the GPS or a phone charging, then you can save any electricity that you make pedalling.

Re: Getting your bike to Harwich for the ferry

20 May 2015 - 10:27am
iviehoff wrote:off-peak fares are not valid before 1930 on Abellio trains

Are you sure?

When I wanted to catch a train home using an off-peak ticket I asked the staff on Liverpool Street station how long I had to wait for the end of the peak time, and I was told that I could use any train as peak time only applies in the morning, not the evening. The trains don't have bike spaces, you just bung them in by the door.

Re: route finding in France- maps or new tech

20 May 2015 - 10:24am
Hi,

I have just fitted a usb charging device to my bike cost me £120 all in. I got the Shimano DH 3N72B Dynamo Front Hub and this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/800mA-BICYCLE ... 0935357198

usb charger of ebay. I did build the wheel myself so I saved a few quid there.

Once you have got that little lot and a smart phone of some sort, you can download co pilot or some sort of mapping app which has the maps stored on the device its self (google maps is internet based so you use data loading them up)

depending on the app you can select bike or walking when putting in destinations (like google) it will then in theory keep you on the smaller roads.

I have only just done this..the charging setup works great, i haven't toured with it yet so i don't know how good it will be, but i will be able to tell you in a few weeks when i cycle to spain.

As with all tech in my opinion should be just used as an aid..still need to plan a good route with maps, and you can always buy a paper map on route

Dirt road touring / bike-packing in Crete - info

20 May 2015 - 10:20am
I just came back from a quick trip to Crete for a spot of dirt road touring / bike-packing. It was ace, so thought a quick blog post with stuff on maps, water and other practicalities might be handy for a few folk.. or not, who knows. Great place to ride a bike and just brilliant for off-road touring

https://mikesimagination.wordpress.com/2015/05/20/dirt-road-touring-bike-packing-on-crete/



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