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Re: Dry bags - a lightweight alternative to panniers

11 October 2014 - 11:49am
Sooper8 wrote:daddig wrote:I'm considering using items from the likes of Alpkit to make the bags more stable and make the fitting and removal easier !


I'd be interested in this idea. I am going down this route too and any pointers would be appreciated.

By the way - You know on Alpkit site at moment, in clearance, they have a few dry bags with slight faults at discount price?

The fault being they leak?

There is a thread on here about the drybag panniers i made - viewtopic.php?f=42&t=83886

Re: Dry bags - a lightweight alternative to panniers

11 October 2014 - 10:16am
daddig wrote:I'm considering using items from the likes of Alpkit to make the bags more stable and make the fitting and removal easier !


I'd be interested in this idea. I am going down this route too and any pointers would be appreciated.

By the way - You know on Alpkit site at moment, in clearance, they have a few dry bags with slight faults at discount price?

Chepstow to Portsmouth cycle route.

11 October 2014 - 9:57am
Fifteen of us are planning to cycle from Anglesey to Paris in July 2015. Though we are familiar with the route down to Chepstow we have no experience of cycling from Chepstow to Portsmouth. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks,
Gethyn.

Re: Majorca Road Cycling

11 October 2014 - 6:44am
Have to disagree with the general notion that drivers in Mallorca are the best behaved. Indeed I had about the same amount or perhaps more close passes than I would on an equivalent ride in the UK. Including one guy who sounded his horn and gesticulated at me when I was doing nothing more interesting than riding along in a straight line.

It may be that in the mountains and coast it's better but stray inland and it's like being back home.

Re: Spain trip

10 October 2014 - 8:18pm
Goinridin wrote:I'm just in the very first stage of planning my next adventure. I haven't done anything since going coast to Coast over the
Pyreneese in 2010 after which I had my bike nicked. Anyway I'm feeling the itch to go on another journey.
For the last couple of years I've parked my motorhome up on a motorhome site quite close to Benidorm for around 3 months from early February to the middle of May. For 2015 I was thinking of instead of training on my racing bike around Benidorm I would have a bike tour of 3/4 weeks from Benidorm to follow the coast through Spain and Portugal to Compostela de Santiago and back through Madrid.
Does anyone have any tips, information as to wild camping, camping sites in fact any info at all. I intend/hope to wildcamp2 days and then campsite or b&b for 1 night to freshen up, and so on, I intend to begin in early May.

I'd suggest that the coastal route is damn hard work and not particularly pleasant, and downright dangerous in places, the cement trucks are Spain's skip wagons. The whole coast is v.busy and the roads not built for such capacity. Wild camping is practically non-existent, unless you are ok with sharing it with desperate immigrants and vagrants. Paid for camping is available but not cheap.

I'd go inland, traffic drops to super safe levels, it's a tranquil, another world and there are plenty of opportunities to safely wild camp.

Re: Dry bags - a lightweight alternative to panniers

10 October 2014 - 6:46pm
It has started to work for me , though I've stopped using a rack , rather now I use a roll top waterproof bag(13ltr) strapped to my seat pin / saddle and another strapped to my bars. A lot less weight to carry makes my life a lot easier .
I'm considering using items from the likes of Alpkit to make the bags more stable and make the fitting and removal easier !
It has to be said though I aim to carry as little as possible !

Re: Pamir Highway

10 October 2014 - 4:38pm
I flew to Van with a stopover in Istanbul with my bike on Turkish Airlines and had no problem at all, so I doubt you'd have any issues to Bishkek.

I've also ridden quite a chunk of the Pamir Highway, written up here: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/standiet

To be honest, the Kyrgyz part is nowhere near as good to ride as the Tajik part. There's too much traffic, there are some quite boring stretches and it can be terribly hot. My advice is to get to the Tajik Pamir as quickly as you can and explore the area in depth - it's very very rewarding, especially around Khorog. The best bits are, as you might expect, away from the Pamir Highway but you have to be prepared for appalling roads and no supplies.

If I was to go there again I'd fly into Dushanbe, not Bishkek.

Re: Dry bags instead of panniers

10 October 2014 - 4:35pm
I tried using one as a saddle bag: my experience, good and bad, was similar to yours. The main bugbear with it for me was the extra awkwardness when I wanted to get inside and find things quickly.

Dry bags - a lightweight alternative to panniers

10 October 2014 - 3:48pm
It struck me that it's pretty easy to strap a regular roll top dry bag to a bike rack. I'm sure I'm not the first to have this idea but having a look online it seems like it is not a popular one. However, there are advantages...

+A Lot lighter - 190g (+a little for strap and bungee) compared to 875g for one of my Ortlieb Back Rollers. Across two panniers that's nearly a kilo and a half of weight saved.
+A Lot cheaper - less than a tenner for this one compared to £90 for a pair of Ortliebs
+No pannier rattle
+In-built compression straps!

-Less durable. The weight on those Ortliebs is not for nothing. If you were to wipe out with dry bags on the rack you'd better hope you have a roll of duct tape handy.
-Less convenient to attach/dettach. Takes a little longer to get on and off. However, while touring I only put my panniers on at the start of the day and take them off at the end so an extra minute of inconvenience is neglibile.
-Less easy to get inside and dig around in. A more real inconvenience I reckon but anything I need to regularly access in up front in my handelbar bag anyway.

What are your thoughts?

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Re: Plym valley and the rest

9 October 2014 - 9:28pm
Hi,
You can buy them but I made mine.
All you need is a pillow case made of fleece material, to stuff your clothes in.
But it only needs to be half the size of a real pillow case, fleece is good on your skin not sweaty like a tent bag etc.
Mine weighs just 80 grams.

Re: Plym valley and the rest

9 October 2014 - 8:25pm
Yeh the lights in both of them just highlight the darkness if that makes sense. I was lucky to have dynamo lights this time round, and having a button on the handlebars to turn them on quickly was very nice.

Re: Plym valley and the rest

9 October 2014 - 8:12pm
Dynamo lights!
Excellent!

The tunnel on the Plym trail is as bad as the one on Drake's Trail. Yes, there are lights in them, but they are wholly inadequate ............. unless you have decent lights.

First time I went though Genofen Tunnel, it was sunny and bright and as I entered the tunnel I was fine ......... for about 50yds, then it was pitch black. I could see the far end in bright light and it blinded me to the darkness, and I rode though absolutely not knowing if there was a walker or cyclist in front of me or what the road surface was like.

I slowed to a snail's pace, and very gingerly made my way through into the light. Unscathed thank goodness.

Re: Plym valley and the rest

9 October 2014 - 7:47pm
Put my clothes in the sleeping bag stuff case, still not great though!

Mickf one thing I forgot to mention, this was also a trial run for my dynamo light system which were great in those tunnels (usb charging worked well as well!)

Tiverton canal runs from Tiverton almost all the way to Cothey manor, about 10 miles I think. There's one or two diversions through villages if you follow the marked route though.

Re: Plym valley and the rest

9 October 2014 - 7:41pm
Hi,
I understand Mick F's about fast and clean roads, but when touring your time is you own to wander at lesiure.
I decided to do a double coast to coast(Torquay - Plymouth-Ilfracombe-Minehead- Exeter-Dawlish-Torquay) but used as cycle paths as well and was well and trully cream crackered hitting barstaple in 30 degrees C

I like exploring and the paths and break up the boring road where you just put your head down.
Though attempting the double in one day zonked me out, 1st time cut short 200 miles, 2nd time 250 miles and missed out dawlish but went over the 24 hrs
South Hams and N-Devon has good hills.....................
Vowed I would do it a gain and stuff the gravel tracks of Plym and Tarka, whatever you do dont go up from Plymouth on the tracks do it downhill from Barnstaple.

Tiverton canal how far does it run, sounds good fun

Edited - how was the path south of clearbrook ? it was due for repair.

Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

9 October 2014 - 7:35pm
IMAG2551 (640x383).jpgMy Marin Point Ryes

Re: Plym valley and the rest

9 October 2014 - 7:15pm
Yes, I've done it, and I agree about the steep hill. Stupid design.
The route through Saltram I would agree too. Tree roots and rough bare soil if I remember correctly.
Best part was going under Marshmills Roundabout past all the graffiti on the concrete walls of the flyover listening to the thundering traffic above on the A38.

Another segment to consider, is Drake's Trail from Yelverton to Tavistock over Gem Bridge and through the Brunel Tunnel under Grenofen. Two comments from me:
The tunnel is fun but pitch dark. You need lights!
Gem Bridge cost 3m quid to build. Total and complete waste of money.

Re: Plym valley and the rest

9 October 2014 - 7:12pm
Put your clothes into the tent bag, it will make a good pillow. Just putting clothes under your head as you have found is useless. Cheers John

Re: Plym valley and the rest

9 October 2014 - 7:05pm
If my goal was to get through as quickly as possible then I would do that, but that wasn't my goal. I enjoyed cycling the plym valley trail which was the idea.

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