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Re: Handy Homemade containers

17 June 2015 - 11:40pm

Re: Front Racks

17 June 2015 - 11:01pm
Thanks. I'll look closer at the Tortec; the Tubus racks are just outside of what I wanted to spend.

Re: Schwalbe Marathon vs Marathon Plus

17 June 2015 - 10:38pm
which Marathons? the new green guard ones or the older kevlar ones? I dont really rate the kevlar ones - maybe kevlar good at stopping a knife but a tiny needle thorn , no

Re: 11 speed for touring?

17 June 2015 - 10:06pm
On my touring bike I sit on the 36 tooth middle ring most of the time and lately have been thinking about a compact double 40/28 with a 36 at the back, I rarely use the big ring on the triple. The hardware is expensive on 11 speed, great for MTB single rings, stay with 10 and go for a double.

La Vélo Francette. Caen to La Rochelle.

17 June 2015 - 9:14pm

Re: Single room B&B Hay-on -Wye / Builth

17 June 2015 - 9:10pm
Jon Lucas - I had a lovely overnight stay at Trericket Mill and did indeed pass on your regards. Alistair went off to fetch a book with your picture on the cover

Re: Brookes Cambium Saddle

17 June 2015 - 9:10pm
I'm fine on a C17 for 100km. After 100km it starts to get increasingly uncomfortable. Tweaking the angle helps but does not remove the problem. I have done 300km rides but I was very uncomfortable at the end. I'm around 105kg and think that the rubber isn't flexible enough.

Re: Brookes Cambium Saddle

17 June 2015 - 9:01pm
Bum = rain cover when riding, plastic bag when not. Although I try not to leave it in the rain unless no other option.

Re: Schwalbe Marathon vs Marathon Plus

17 June 2015 - 9:00pm
I've got ordinary Marathons on my Brompton which have been on since 1 Jan 2013 with no problems in over 2,500 miles. I fitted these as I really didn't fancy the thought of a rear wheel puncture at night on my daily commute. These are at 80psi and I check the tyre pressure and condition each week.

I also have ordinary Marathons (26 x 2") on my other commuting bike. Only done 250 miles on these so not enough to judge anything. I run these at 55 psi.

Finally, I have a Surly Disc Trucker as my current Audax & Touring bike. For Touring it wears Marathons in 26 x 1.75" and has done over 1,000 miles on and off-road with no problems on those tyres at 50 - 55psi. I wouldn't bother with M+, I would just try adjusting the pressure to suit

Re: 11 speed for touring?

17 June 2015 - 8:57pm
It's (probably) only madness if you are planning disappearing into the middle of nowhere for months on end. As you don't seem to be doing this I wouldn't worry.

One problem sometimes talked of is thinner chains being less robust. Dunno, discuss.

PS I worried a bit going from my super reliable 8 speed to 9 speed, but 6 long haul trips have shown it to be reliable. Not sure though if replacements would always be available in the middle of nowhere.

Looking for companion for my first tour

17 June 2015 - 8:14pm
Hi all,

I'm an Italian chef currently living in Derby, I'm thinking to get a gap from work to cycle my first tour. As I havn't experience in bike touring and I'm a sociable person I would like to find a companion for the trip. I'm planning to start around the 15th of July and go up to Edinburgh through the national parks (Peak District, Yorkshire Dales and Kielder Forest Park). Will be around 600 miles go and return to perform in 10-12 days. Think about camping to keep the budget low and stay in contact with the nature. That's my idea but if you want to join and have a better suggestion for the trip I'll be happy to hear it. I will ride a Vittesse Sprint set up for touring.

Re: Schwalbe Marathon vs Marathon Plus

17 June 2015 - 7:44pm
I've been very happy with the basic Marathons. Just replaced them after 5000 miles. The originals were Kevlarguard as are the new ones, but they don't make them any more. The new ones are Greenguard which is just thicker rubber. I don't know how they compare.

Canal du Midi?

17 June 2015 - 7:08pm
Back end of August, she and I taking the EBE to Narbonne for a couple of weeks, and I fancy doing a bit of background reading. Any suggestions?

Re: Front Racks

17 June 2015 - 7:06pm
don1 wrote:These are my forks. Genesis Croix de Fer 2015.ImageUploadedByTapatalk1434561113.216667.jpg
ok you need a two point rack with over wheel brace eg Tubus Ergo or Tortec Expedition

Re: Front Racks

17 June 2015 - 6:13pm
On the Duo the top brackets either side of the fork are best fitted with one long pin and a locking nut on the end. This was Orbits recommendation when they were the importers and not with a pin either side as Tubus instructions. http://www.tubus.com/documents/1321271426_Duo.pdf

Re: Front Racks

17 June 2015 - 6:12pm
These are my forks. Genesis Croix de Fer 2015.ImageUploadedByTapatalk1434561113.216667.jpg

Re: Touring Cassette

17 June 2015 - 5:06pm
CJ wrote:foxyrider wrote:Another advantage of not going too big at the rear is that you can keep the chain shorter which helps prevent loosing it on rough surfaces!
Sounds like an old roadie myth to me. I've always employed the biggest sprockets available and been no stranger to rough-stuff, but so far this worker has yet to lose his chains!

Not a myth but a fact from the days of simpler gear mechs without a top spring! Still works, just because you've never lost a chain doesn't mean it can't happen, it was a common occurrence on mtb's which spawned the DCD and eventually Shadow rear mechs.

Re: Schwalbe Marathon vs Marathon Plus

17 June 2015 - 5:06pm
johnmillward74 wrote:Hi

I have a Dawes Galaxy Plus with Schwalbe Marathon tyres. I did a tour of the south coast of England last year from Margate to Land's End and had four punctures. I am looking to minimise this possibility on my next trip from Calais to Montpellier. I was wondering if anyone has any views on whether it would be beneficial to upgrade these tyres - perhaps to the Marathon Plus Tour? or any other recommendations?

Many thanks

You haven't mentioned your tyre pressure or width, so it is difficult to comment - unless I missed it.

I tend to run at around 80% of the recommended max, or a bit lower for trails. But i run widish (1.4in) Marathon Supremes.


Re: Schwalbe Marathon vs Marathon Plus

17 June 2015 - 4:49pm
Sounds like you are a victim of inexperience and low tyre pressures rather than wrong tyres!

Stick to your Marathons, check the tyres for damage, keep the air topped up and you will decrease your likelihood of punctures many times over. I ran a pair of skinny 25c Marathons to destruction only picking up one puncture when the rear was down almost to canvass! Marathon Plus have been designed for commuting use primarily where weight etc are not really an issue but a puncture could be. There is no extra traction, in fact the Racer would be better for that so for touring you are already running the right rubber.

In the last 20,000km (@ 3 years riding) I've had precisely 3 punctures, I bit of glass, 1 pinch after hitting a hidden pot hole at speed - both of these front wheel on a fully loaded tour on 25c Paselas and the only other deflation, a slow during a very wet sportive caused by another bit of glass on a 23c GP4000s race tyre, front again. It might be luck or it might be good tyre husbandry!

Re: Schwalbe Marathon vs Marathon Plus

17 June 2015 - 4:40pm
I run Marathon Plus tires on my Surly Disc Trucker. Around 80 - 90 PSI. I did my tour in Ireland on them (lots of chip-seal and very rough roads there) and also ride comfortably on gravel with them. I don't have many miles on them - somewhere just over 1000 or so - and while they are a bit heavier with more rolling resistance, I was glad for the extra traction as it rained every day I rode in Ireland. Punctures with a fully loaded tourer are a PITA, so the less chance I run of getting a puncture the happier I am.


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