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Re: TI3IT-Thru Italy's 3 Islands Trail

25 September 2015 - 11:35am
Hi Conrad.

Slightly surprised to hear from you - I clearly misread your last post as a polite Italian way of saying "thanks but no

thanks - sod off and let me sort stuff myself", which I should stress I didn't take umbrage at.

### edit - see my post pps below - maybe you deleted something.

Also, when I said north or south towards Cagliari, I meant immediately north or south of the main road west to east.

Anyway, some quick notes/thoughts on your chosen route (am not trying to change it) and stuff close by which may be of interest/use.

@ Just before Buggerru in a place possibly called San Nicolao (which hardly exists) there is a nice small cemetery - you can't miss it as it is on the road you will be cycling on. I can't be certain but I have a memory that it might have one or two pieces by the aforementioned master. If not, there is some stuff of interest. Like many cemeteries in Sardinia though it does have somewhat odd/infrequent opening hours so may be shut. I was once gently mocked by an elderly Sard for expecting a cemetery to be open in the afternoon - but then I think that was the old Sard habit of generalising from very restricted local even family experience. They have longer hours in the north of the island I think. I am of course assuming that you share my interest in Italian cemeteries

@ Buggerru - by the way donkey's years ago I once slept in a tent pitched on the cindered football pitch you will see from above the town. Probably wouldn't do it now - the place is much "improved".

You will of course have to drop down to see the place and then climb back out but it is worth doing - a nice little place with a harbour and some history - there is a memorial to some miners killed in a strike. For, hard to believe now, this was an industrial area.

@ Cala Domestica - further south. I am pretty sure there will be a sign to this. A bit of a detour to the coast but well worth seeing. Nice place to pause. This was apparently the location for "Sebastiane", a film by the arty Brit director

Derek Jarman - lots of men in roman dress but more often I think out of it. The first British film ever to be filmed in Latin. And the last.

As you travel further south on the main coast road there is a pretty horrendous long climb at some point - just grin and bear it but be aware of it when timing the ride.

@ Masua - reachable from here is the pretty incredible Porto Flavia (google image it) but it will probably be shut and not convenient for you to visit anyway.

@ Nebida - From memory there is a bit of a descent to this and you may be tempted to sing to the sky and whizz on by but do stop. Pull into the carpark on the right/coast-side of the road. From close to there there is a panoramic walkway (you could ride if in a hurry and polite) which goes round the headland with a beautiful view. On the furthest extreme of it there is a even a bar. But may be shut of course. After the bar as you walk round there is, from memory, a small memorial to, I think, a carabinieri officer possibly from the 1940s. If you can find out from a local I would be very interested to know the story behind this.

@ Gonnesa - much improved - one or two Sards have scoffed about this place to me in that Sard/possibly Italian way about the next place along the road but I visited a few years ago and it has clearly been improved. Quite nice. Worth popping in to.

@ Portoscuso - a pretty long time since I have been that way but I remember it being rather industrial.

But near there is a nuraghe, Seruci, worth popping to if you haven't had your fill of them in the rest of the island.

@ Cortoghiana - could I think be reached by a back road from the nuraghe but it would be a bit of a detour from your route. It's a Fascist era town/dormitory town - pretty uncompromising architecturally but I find it interesting. Pretty much all complete though the church has gone - it must surely have been used for films? I can never remember whether it was built just before or just after nearby Carbonia, which is also a Fascist creation.

As I say if you have any questions ask away and I will help if I can.

Yes, I know Sardinia pretty well - sometimes it seems as if I have been up all the roads, but since a lot of them were in car I have forgotten a lot. I have also though cycled a fair bit and have cyled the route described above.

I will tap down more thoughts on the rest of your planned route to Cagliari when I have a bit more time.

Happy cycling

Re: Wet Wipes

25 September 2015 - 11:23am
Pete Jack wrote:Mistik-ka wrote:syklist wrote:Is that a bit like living with a Canadian?

Here now! Sorry mate. It's usually Yank bashing that I get, snotty comments about spelling etc.. Looks like you got caught in the crossfire.
My main point was the way that the OP phrased his sentence. I like that kind of ambiguity. I would have said "Always had a septic tank at home" which I feel is more difficult to misinterpret.

Personally I do live with a Canadian, and, certainly linguistically speaking, it is like living with an American, different words, backpack instead of rucksack, pavement means the surface on the road not the sidewalk, a bathroom can contain just a toilet etc. It still causes confusion every now and again. We do however have fewer disagreements about spelling than if Mrs Syklist had grown up in the USA. On the down side, it means that Norwegian born Syklist Junior has to deal with two different Norwegian dialects* during the day at the kindergarten and then two different English dialects when he gets home.

Getting back on topic, Syklist Junior's arrival means now that we have to take two types of wet wipes on tour with us - the facial cleansing tissues to get oil and grime off our hands and the baby ones to keep Junior clean. The baby wipes generally get wrapped up in the nappy which we throw away as soon as we find a bin.

*Gol is on a dialect cusp between the Nynorsk dialects to the West and the bokmål dialects to the East. Strictly speaking he has to deal with three Norwegian dialects as Hallingdal has its own dialect. However Hallingdal can also be considered to fall under the Nynorsk group it depends on how many hairs you want to split.

Buen Camino!

25 September 2015 - 10:43am
Just back from two & a half weeks cycling the Camino pilgrim route from Pamplona to Santiago on my 'Birdy' folder with Rohloff. Flew from Manchester to Bilbao & then train to Pamplona.Return,again with Easyjet,from Santiago to Gatwick.
Great riding,although some of the 'walking' routes are very steep & rough,so tended to opt for minor roads running nearby.
Mostly walkers,but quite a few cyclists too from a huge variety of countries. Became friendly with some lads from Brazil & from Argentina also riding. Most people were intrigued that riding it on small wheels. The only others I saw were a small group from USA on 'Bike Fridays', & two Bromptons in Santiago.
The bike & tools,clothes went in the bike bag as hold luggage, & rest in pannier inside rucksack as 'carry on'.
Only real problem was a couple of punctures. Excellent hostels along the way,often serving good food. If not lots of options nearby on 'Menu of day' at 9Euros.
Amazing.jaw dropping architecture all the way along.
Glad I fitted my 'Dutch Ding/Dong' bell. It generated a lot of favourable comment & was popularly received.
Still pretty busy in September,despite being 'off season'. Must be pretty hectic in high summer!

Re: Tandem tires?

25 September 2015 - 10:22am
When we had a Thorn Me-n-U2 triplet I ran it (like most of my bikes) on standard Marathons. I keep coming back to them because they've always done well for me (touring 'bent, Brompton, 8-Freight cargo bike, plus the triplet).


Re: Tandem tires?

25 September 2015 - 8:33am

Re: Tandem tires?

24 September 2015 - 11:35pm
Planet X are selling off Schwalbe Marathon Dureme Tandem tyres, you need to follow the link below, their search or stock systems do not find them.
Duremes are highly rated durable touring tyres, I have a pair of the lighter standard version on my Thorn Nomad, they have done 5000 miles mostly with a heavy camping set up and are still going strong without a single puncture. I have bought some of the 26X2 inch ones for our tandem, (this size is no longer available).


Re: Tandem tires?

24 September 2015 - 9:21pm
Some good first hand experiences here:


Re: 6 months in Western Europe - complete beginner

24 September 2015 - 9:17pm
Thanks davegtt, I fond that interesting. It confirms my opinion of modern kit, in that all but the real cheap stuff is up to some serious touring.

Re: TI3IT-Thru Italy's 3 Islands Trail

24 September 2015 - 9:14pm
Sweep wrote:... will you be passing through Fluminimaggiore to go straight to Iglesias or are you taking the roundabout coast road towards the aforementioned Buggerru? ... when you go eastwards from Iglesias towards Cagliari are you taking the main road (can be done) or planning to go south or north of it?
today on the ferry to Bastia plenty of time to check and recheck my planned itinerary ... itinerary subject to possible changes however!!
- from Arbus I confirm Buggerru
- no Iglesias
- yes the south coastline to Cagliari

ps. it seems that you know pretty well those places, isn't it ?

Tandem tires?

24 September 2015 - 8:50pm
So, with the new addition to the stable having pretty square tires that need replacing....

Avaghon tandem (2nd hand) by Shane Cycles, on Flickr

I'm taking tips for the most suitable 28" tires for touring mainly (dare I say it...) on road. The frame has room for 47-622, the front fork slighty more....

Comfort and not fixing punctures in the rain go above weight and price for this little project

Thanks in advance for opinions based on experience rather than.....

Re: october tour sleeping bag

24 September 2015 - 6:39pm
Try it before you go! There's some pretty cold nights coming up now we are at the equinox. I reckon you'll need the warmer one. Beware some sleeping bag ratings. I've found Vango ones in particular are not what they say! Nothing worse than being too cold at night.

Re: october tour sleeping bag

24 September 2015 - 5:21pm
We are doing a last camping tour of the season in October, and will take our Vango Venom 200 down bags. They have a comfort rating of 10c and an extreme rating of 0c. Since it can be cold when rising in the morning taking thermals and a down gilet is good idea anyway, so it is no extra to use these for sleeping in if it gets cold. My Venom started life as my alpine bivvying sleeping bag, paired with some clothes and a lightweight bivvy bag (no tent). I used it frequently in temps down to -10c. By the time you get really cold it is time to get the kettle on for a brew anyway - coldest just before dawn etc.

Re: october tour sleeping bag

24 September 2015 - 4:52pm
A cheap and light way of making a sleeping bag a lot warmer is to use an emergency survival blanket, typical mass 60g, typical price £3, and they are reusable. So they are a bit noisy when you move, but they are very effective. Another annoyance is that you will get condensation on the underside on a cold night, sometimes even when the tent stays dry. They do fold back up again and fit into the packet you took them out of, if you are careful.

Nevertheless, personally I'd be taking the heavier bag for October.

Re: october tour sleeping bag

24 September 2015 - 3:05pm
I'd take the warm bag.
You've got to allow for frosty nights at the end of October, and whilst one night not sleeping because it's too cold and you are shivering can be though of as an interesting lesson, several nights on the trot wouldn't be pleasant.
The extra for a warmer bag will be less (in weight/bulk) than any extras you may take to make up the same warmth in a colder bag, so liners aren't too good, and clothing only if you would take most of it even with a warm bag.

Re: october tour sleeping bag

24 September 2015 - 12:47pm
Do you have a down jacket? If you are taking it, then consider the lighter bag, provided you have thermals etc with you.

Ultimately it depends on the weather forecast for the week, plus how the equation between a miserable night or two and 1 extra kg pans out in your mind. The answer to that is personal!

Re: october tour sleeping bag

24 September 2015 - 12:14pm
I test my bags and sleeping mats overnight on the floor of the conservatory when the outside temperatures are near those to be encountered on the tour I'm planning. For me, that gives me a reasonable guide to what to expect.

Re: 6 months in Western Europe - complete beginner

24 September 2015 - 9:41am
I had a 2 man Wild Country tent, loved the door either side as I obviously had the wife in there and I didn't like the idea of climbing over each other in the night for the toilet, paid about £70 for it and it held up well, would easily be useable for another tour, and 5 minutes set up time on your own is very good. - http://www.terra-nova.co.uk/p/nigel-var ... -pyrenees/

Camping Mat - http://www.decathlon.co.uk/forclaz-a200 ... 95174.html

Sleeping bags were about £15 each, I cant find my email confirmation of where I bought them from but they was not anything special. We mainly looked for something compact and light.

Cooking gear was a bit of a mess to start with and this is something I wish we had more experience in before we left. We set off with a litre of fuel and a fuel burner which I found to be pathetic to be honest. After a month living on Sandwiches we spent about £30 on a gas stove and a couple of canisters which lasted us quite a long time, cooking and eating out of a pair of £5 mess tins. Best thing we bought on the travels and super for cooking noodles or pasta in for meals. hot dog sausages were another favorite, heated up very quickly using minimal gas and cheap too

Most of our clothing was cheap items from Decathlon or Sports Direct and suited us perfect, mainly light weight. Baring in mind we set off in April from UK to Denmark and Sweden we had to pack for cold and wet days but by June we were in Croatia in the 30+ region. Then back to the UK for September and wearing warmer things again. This was easily achievable with 2 rear ortliebs and the 30L Rack Pack that they do. We did not use any front panniers. I carried all the camping equipment and would suggest I could have done the trip solo without the use of someone elses space on the bikes so you wouldnt have a problem with that set up. Off course if I did ever consider to do it solo I would possibly get front panniers too for the ease of packing and unpacking/extra space.

I'm sat at my desk in work now feeling very nostalgic and want to cry. You lucky so and so.

Re: TI3IT-Thru Italy's 3 Islands Trail

24 September 2015 - 6:44am
Sweep wrote:...
... I'll surely investigate, cheers ...

Re: 6 months in Western Europe - complete beginner

23 September 2015 - 7:11pm
that sounds like an interesting tour davegtt, it's encouraging to hear people not just theorising that that you don't need expensive kit, but demonstrating that they've done it. What about other kit, tent, sleeping bags, mats, cooking gear... did you have the same approach to that?

Re: CTC Poly Bike Bag and Easyjet Questions

23 September 2015 - 4:15pm
bobzeller wrote:A quick question; when you are forced into using an airline supplied box, is it a standard bike box such as the ones used to ship new bikes to shops?
Do the wheels have to be removed to use it?
Both at Nice and at Amsterdam the boxes are long enough to hold my 56cm Galaxy without removing wheels.
The Nice ones not quite high enough, though, even with handlebars and seatpost removed, the top wouldn't fold down neatly. Also (as mentioned above) very flimsy.
The Amsterdam ones are just as long, but higher and much stronger, have 'handle holes' and also don't require any tape to hold together.


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