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Re: on a budget - New bike or secondhand quandry

24 May 2015 - 7:30am
Sweep wrote:Can i ask which model it is and double check wheel size?

Mine is a 520sx, 700 wheels, bought new in around 97 for £220 reduced from about £280. Most bits apart from frame, stem, bars and seatpost have been replaced over the years.

This very weekend am upgrading it from 7/21 speed to the dizzy heights of 8/24

700c. It is a Ridgeback Adventure 525SX, I don't know the difference between it and a 520SX, I also have a Ridgeback Bullit in my cellar which appears identical apart from a double, not triple chain ring, that bike belongs to my cousin.

Re: Handlebar bag as security risk

24 May 2015 - 5:17am
Topeak Compact is the one I have. Love it and it comes with belt clip so you can wear around your middle. I know what you mean about standing out a bit. If I was checked in to a hotel, I would leave it in the room safe and just have my wallet in my pocket as I would at home.

Re: Handlebar bag as security risk

24 May 2015 - 3:22am
There is no one solution to the problem, some like bar bags, others don't. Not long back I saw a swiss guy who had a bag draped over his handlebars and thought, that's the way to go, but I'm not sure of the brand. https://goo.gl/mVr3qz The Topeak Compact is a good little unit because you can attach it to your waist and use it like any other barbag, plus you can squish it down to fit into your panniers if need be, http://www.topeak.com/products/bags/Com ... dlebar_Bag I use the Packsafe Venturesafe 100 and find it ok for up to six weeks so far, but might use the Topeak option for longer trips http://www.pacsafe.com/venturesafe-100- ... ack-3.html

My barbag days started to come to an end because of my forgetfulness, while half way into the long queue at customs, I realized I was missing something, I left the bag at the security scanner, it had all the important stuff in it. I read a story where a guy did the same thing but he wasn't allowed to get his bag because he'd crossed the line of no return, that caused all sorts of strife. I left my barbag in a few other places as well.

Handlebar bag as security risk

24 May 2015 - 1:42am
I recently toured with a handlebar bag for the first time. A small one (ortlieb compact) cos I cannot bring myself to getting a full size one, they look so clunky.

I had all my valuables (passport, wallet, keys, mobile, camera) in there as I was in a safe area. But it got me thinking.

It is common knowledge that fanny packs are theft magnets (you can google it) and a bar bag is not so different. It makes it really obvious where all your valuables are.

I know in general I would not put all my valuables in the bar bag, e.g. I'd use e.g. a pouch of some sort on my body for the passport, perhaps put something in a pannier (but then you can't leave the pannier on without taking it out), and distribute money amongst various hidden places on the bike and person. However, I would still use the bar bag for some valuables, like camera, mobile, keys, otherwise what's the point.

I am not really concerned with theft whilst you're on the bike either (love the gimmicky ortlieb locks), I think it's more likely to happen when you are off the bike and carrying the bar bag. It feels so amateur.

Is there basically no other choice? The main advantages of bar bags are a) you have things you access frequently at hand, b) you can take it off the bike easily when you dismount. (Also handling but let's assume I have front panniers for that.)
Now for a) I think there are other solutions such as a pocket on your front pannier, but for b) it certainly seems convenient to have all the important things in one place. But it seems to be inviting trouble.

Am I the only one who thinks this?

Re: What constitutes light touring?

24 May 2015 - 12:11am
Funny to read so many definitions of " light" .....

I've travelled light with 20kg of baggage plus 30kg of water and food, light as possible with 25kg of baggage with 8kg fuel and 15kg of food, also light with 10kg of baggage plus room for a sandwich and my own weight has fluctuated 10kg in that time.....


I suspect so long as your bike still rides well and doesn't wobble too much you'll be just fine .

Re: What constitutes light touring?

23 May 2015 - 11:29pm
I 'light' toured (no camping) last year for 2-3 weeks on an 'audax' bike (titanium frame; 25mm tyres). About 10kg spread two small panniers and a bar bag. Generally got by OK but I could only ride on the hoods, using the drops or the tops led to too much shimmy a lot of the time. For my next tour I've reconditioned my old Galaxy tourer instead.

Re: Caen to La Rochelle to Santander.

23 May 2015 - 11:14pm
biscaystorm wrote:There are prevailing South Easterly winds in Northern France which make north-bound cycling tough going
at times.
Did you mean NE winds? A SE wind would help north-bound riding, surely?
Otherwise I would agree that going North to South makes more sense, to get acclimatized to hills. Many have said (here and elsewhere) that the French coastal strip is boring, but you could go inland more (across some of the prettier parts of Dordogne and Lot valleys) as we did, if you have time. More hills though!

Re: Caen to La Rochelle to Santander.

23 May 2015 - 8:19pm
I agree with biscaystorm in one way that from North to South you get warmed up before the hills start in Spain. Doing it the other way would mean you hit the Basque hills from the off. It's beautiful there but you need to be bike fit ready. coming North to South is better i'd say.

here's my blog of North to South ( St Malo to Santander )

http://biker-waser.blogspot.co.uk/

Re: Princetown Railway Line

23 May 2015 - 7:54pm
Hi,
Well I was up on Dartmoor today and I have forgotten how hard it is
Route anticlockwise.
2015-05-23_192855.jpg

Speedo says 40.5 miles (map through bellever wood not accurate) in 4 H 15 min 9.7 MPH.
Not that hilly but the off road has plenty boulders and I underestimated how rough the princetown to burrator railway track was
Bridge NOT open yet
And you have to lug bike over a style So you've been warned.
25 kilo bike with not so speedy tyres was a hard task.
Saw some coming down the lower leg to burrator via nun cross farm but they were stopping for a rest with their hyper machines..........I went up and had to get off several times, this track is one of the worst on Dartmoor.
A number of chain gangs training for The Dartmoor Classic Sportive.
Good scenery though.

Re: Tour of Switzerland

23 May 2015 - 7:42pm
Switzerland has a network of cycle routes. I have used a few of them and found the signing very reliable.
Look at
http://www.veloland.ch/en/cycling-in-switzerland.html

Re: Caen to La Rochelle to Santander.

23 May 2015 - 7:21pm
biscaystorm wrote:At Irun (just over the Spanish border)...west-bound traffic for the first 50kms or so can be very heavy with a lot of trucks. (However, there is a bike accepting train service (EuskoTren) from Hendaye or Irun which can help you avoid this. Apart from that, the Basque country is great to cycle in.

The are quieter alternatives without too much of a detour.

Having done it both ways starting at Santander seemed easier as the worst terrain was over first. Also with 3 ferries a day from Caen timing the end of the ride is not so critical.

There are many posts regarding this ride on the forum, do a search on Santander and they should come up.

Re: National Parks in the Netherlands

23 May 2015 - 6:57pm
m-gineering wrote:not an expert on birds, but a possible route could be:
Oostvaardersplassen
continue north for Giethoorn
If you need to see a couple of hundred storks turn west for de Schiphorst
Keep going for Fochteloerveen
Continue north for the Lauwersmeer
Head back south along the German border
cut across de hoge Veluwe

Thank you very much and welcome to the forum...b

Re: Touring in Sweden

23 May 2015 - 6:49pm
There don't seem to be any readily available GPS tracks for the area where you are. Only the southernmost bit, and the one I linked above.

However http://www.biroto.eu/en/cycle-route/eur ... rt00000410 has done the map gap in open street map, and if you join the site, you can download them.

Re: on a budget - New bike or secondhand quandry

23 May 2015 - 6:49pm
mercalia wrote:if u go for a classic style Galaxy then u need a 25"/65cms frame for your height - these dont come up very often. I used to have one and am your height so I know even then I had to have the seat pin etc up quite high

I'm 6 ft 2 in and ride a 58 cm with no more than 6 inches of seat post. I would imagine that 60 cm would be big enough.

Re: Touring in Sweden

23 May 2015 - 6:43pm
andrew549 wrote:I'm currently near Ludvika and had been planning on riding up through the middle of Sweden although now thinking of heading over to the coast and following the eurovelo 7 route in reverse though Sweden and was wandering if anyone happened to have a GPS trace of the route heading north as I can't seem to find one very easily at the moment.

Thanks for any help

Andy
This any good?
http://www.bikemap.net/en/official/1773 ... den-north/

Re: route finding in France- maps or new tech

23 May 2015 - 6:33pm
I used to be very sniffy about gps simon and mercilessly mocked folks with them.
But i became a convert.
For a long trip across france if you are set on a particular destination i think i would use one.
I use an etrex 20 with free osm. Brilliant.
Just used it on a plane. My android tablet wouldn't get a fix.
The garmin told me that in our odd approach to gatwick we came very close to one of my favourite waymarked free camping spots in sussex.

Re: on a budget - New bike or secondhand quandry

23 May 2015 - 6:20pm
Can i ask which model it is and double check wheel size?

Mine is a 520sx, 700 wheels, bought new in around 97 for £220 reduced from about £280. Most bits apart from frame, stem, bars and seatpost have been replaced over the years.

This very weekend am upgrading it from 7/21 speed to the dizzy heights of 8/24

Re: Touring in Sweden

23 May 2015 - 5:19pm
I'm currently near Ludvika and had been planning on riding up through the middle of Sweden although now thinking of heading over to the coast and following the eurovelo 7 route in reverse though Sweden and was wandering if anyone happened to have a GPS trace of the route heading north as I can't seem to find one very easily at the moment.

Thanks for any help

Andy

Re: Caen to La Rochelle to Santander.

23 May 2015 - 5:04pm
Try to do this from Caen to LaRochelle and then to Santander.

There are prevailing South Easterly winds in Northern France which make north-bound cycling tough going
at times. Moreover, starting your journey in Santander means you are starting with the toughest climbs of the whole trip...
(relative to the flatness of the Western France).

After Bordeaux down to the Spanish border, the cycling is very boring and the coastal towns very touristy...

At Irun (just over the Spanish border)...west-bound traffic for the first 50kms or so can be very heavy with a lot of trucks. (However, there is a bike accepting train service (EuskoTren) from Hendaye or Irun which can help you avoid this. Apart from that, the Basque country is great to cycle in.

Re: on a budget - New bike or secondhand quandry

23 May 2015 - 4:03pm
Sweep wrote:Am slightly confused mark. The adventure is a nice bike (i have one and may be in touch with questions now and again) but it's another hybrid. I'm not criticising the adventure but why couldn't you use any of your existing hybrids?

My other hybrids are alu and get very well used, I could have used them, could have used my MTB also, they've all toured before. But I wanted a steel bike for touring only, set up for me and to be used just for that purpose.

It actually cost in total £208, bike, wheels, cassette, cogs, chain and tyres and it rides lovely, nimbler than my others. It has a nearly new Charge saddle on it now.

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