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Re: Default tourer?

21 December 2014 - 9:00pm
PH wrote:The answer is in his blog, very nice bikes they are too.
It ain't,just that he prefers Ti.
I fond the LHT to be, well not a slug, but certainly very steady (Yes...subjective) for the riding I was using it for I liked that. The Hewitt by comparison (Even more subjective) feels quite sprightly. The hard facts from the computer showed I was just as slow on either
Amazing innit,sometimes a bike that feels fast ain't when the numbers are totted up,I've had the same experience,which caused me to sell a bike almost 3kg lighter than my Vayas but nowhere near as comfy.

Re: Default tourer?

21 December 2014 - 8:17pm
reohn2 wrote:So far we've one person complaining it's a 'slug' but until we know what he's it's comparing it to we don't know how valid that complaint is,everyone else seems to be happy with theirs,which seems to back up the fact that it's a very good tourer.

The answer is in his blog, very nice bikes they are too.
I fond the LHT to be, well not a slug, but certainly very steady (Yes...subjective) for the riding I was using it for I liked that. The Hewitt by comparison (Even more subjective) feels quite sprightly. The hard facts from the computer showed I was just as slow on either

Re: Default tourer?

21 December 2014 - 7:23pm
PH wrote:
I didn't say it was a bad 'un.
I didn't say you did.
There's presently 3 bikes and 1 frame for sale on this forum, bikes described as "As new", "Nearly new" "used one tour", not a scientific sample, but I'd still suggest the proportion of people who are buying and not keeping is quite high compared to other bikes. In contrast, there's currently only 1 Galaxy for sale on the forum and that's a Ti version. I don't know the figures, but I'd be surprised if the LHT outsold the Galaxy, if for no other reason than the Dawes availability.
I can't disagree with that,but it's a snapshot in time,though one or two LHT's do come up on the forum sales board.


Without too much research these would be on the shortlist, I'm not looking for another bike...
Hewitt Cheviot (My current steel tourer and I have no intention of changing it)
VO Campeur
SOMA Saga
Ridgeback Panorama
Spa Tourer
Some of the Jamis bikes sold by Evans
Genesis Tour de Fer
And lastly, the Surly Crosscheck, I know a couple of people who tour on them and rate them.

And all quite similar framesets to the LHT other than the LHT has a horizontal TT,the geometry is similar on most.
What I'm trying to get at is why is the LHT so popular,maybe it isn't top dog in the UK but in the US or globally even it comes up near the top.
Someone posted up thread (you(?))that they may have been introduced at just the right time in the US and got a good name,and once established is hard to shift of it's perch,much as the Galaxy used to.
Though TBH the spec for the standard LHT is very good for the price point.

So far we've one person complaining it's a 'slug' but until we know what he's it's comparing it to we don't know how valid that complaint is,everyone else seems to be happy with theirs,which seems to back up the fact that it's a very good tourer.

Re: TOURING 2015

21 December 2014 - 6:43pm
Yeah thats right all the way down west france is routed with cycle paths. its really nice but they arent at all the quickest. it seems cycle paths are for winding around leisurely in france, not always the best if you have to get somewhere!

From bordeaux down to the border of spain was so flat you barely had to push, easy but can get a little boring. once you get to spain the whole landscape changes and the hills can be tough (i had completed the wrong gearing set up to be riding up hills with panniers) but with them you do get beauty, so its always worth it in the end

Re: Default tourer?

21 December 2014 - 5:44pm
simonhill wrote:I have been following this thread because I have an LHT. My comments are half way down page 2.

I find it all rather amusing with people doing all the comparisons. Unfortunately this is a luxury that many (most) of us can't do. I don't have a stock of bikes in my shed, so can't say how they compare to an LHT. I think the majority of people are in my situation. I chose this bike based on recommendations and now ride it. Maybe if I trawled the bike shops and got them to lend me different bikes for short tours I would find my bike is rubbish and would change it.

As far as I am concerned it seems OK to me. As I said I have toured on it a lot, I tour for about 5 months a year, then use the bike for local stuff.

If you're happy with it, you're happy with it, there isn't anything to take away from that. Equally if other people are not so happy with it why wouldn't they make comparisons with other bikes they'd owned or tried, I don't see what's amusing about that!
So much of it's subjective anyway, I had a Thorn Raven, a bike that has lots of happy owners and although the bike was comfy and never let me down in any way, I never really liked it. I'm interested to hear of others experience, but it is what it is and I have no expectation that mine will necessarily be the same.

Re: Default tourer?

21 December 2014 - 5:30pm
reohn2 wrote:Yes you do see a few for sale,and no doubt there's different reasons for that.But it doesn't mean the bike's a bad one.
There's a lot of people with touring stars in their eyes that are never reached for due to real life realisations.
There are a lot of Galaxy's up for sale too,and whilst the Gal' is an old 'un,you see quite a few newish ones for sale.

I didn't say it was a bad 'un. There's presently 3 bikes and 1 frame for sale on this forum, bikes described as "As new", "Nearly new" "used one tour", not a scientific sample, but I'd still suggest the proportion of people who are buying and not keeping is quite high compared to other bikes. In contrast, there's currently only 1 Galaxy for sale on the forum and that's a Ti version. I don't know the figures, but I'd be surprised if the LHT outsold the Galaxy, if for no other reason than the Dawes availability.
If I was in the market for a full on tourer, the LHT would definitely be on the short list, but it wouldn't be there on it's own, I can think of a few other bikes that equally deserve a place.
Care to name a few?

Without too much research these would be on the shortlist, I'm not looking for another bike...
Hewitt Cheviot (My current steel tourer and I have no intention of changing it)
VO Campeur
SOMA Saga
Ridgeback Panorama
Spa Tourer
Some of the Jamis bikes sold by Evans
Genesis Tour de Fer
And lastly, the Surly Crosscheck, I know a couple of people who tour on them and rate them.

Re: TOURING 2015

21 December 2014 - 4:56pm
Molzor, sounds like you followed the Velodyssey route to some extent, as I did. Didn't quite reach Spain but have cycled there before from Santander into the Picos and agree it's fairly hilly. Makes it more interesting though! I found the route along the Nante-Brest canal a bit boring at times, so it was good to deviate and look around a bit.

Re: Touring wheels

21 December 2014 - 3:29pm
no never broken a spoke, but i dont really fancy it happening! i was using 28mm tyres before but apparently theres room for 32s with no mud guards. i guess this would be fine in the warmer months. do you think this would be a worthwhile swap?

Re: Touring wheels

21 December 2014 - 2:04pm
Have you ever broken a spoke?

I have 32 spokes on my hybrid wheels, and they were 20 years old before I broke any spokes on them. At the time, I was often carrying a child on the back, as well as my weight, and sometimes the shopping.

What size tyres do you use & what size will your rims/bike take? You might gain more with wider tyres.

Re: Touring wheels

21 December 2014 - 1:37pm
no im only a light weight, 9stone mark. and i try to keep it reasonably light but obviously a tent sleeping bag clothes stove etc does add up a bit. maybe im being over cautious, i dont know.

Re: TOURING 2015

21 December 2014 - 1:28pm
Last summer i did a ride down west france and to santander and it was lovely. I was on the pilgrim route for a lot of the way, but word of warning. nowhere, and i mean nowhere in northern spain is flat. its up down up down. beautiful landscapes but the ability to switch off brain and turn on climbing mode can come in useful. i found myself decending really slow because i knew there would only be another climb to come!

Re: Touring wheels

21 December 2014 - 1:03pm
32 spokes is a pretty strong wheel. Unless you are very heavy, or carrying an exceptional amount of kit, it should be good enough for touring most places in Europe and North America.

Touring wheels

21 December 2014 - 12:45pm
does anyone have any recommendations for me on some good touring wheels at a reasonble price?

i have a kona honky tonk 2013, i love it, but i would like to kit it out a bit better for touring in the summer.

Last year i did a lovely route down the west coast of france into northern spain without too much difficulty, although the spanish mountains were quite a challenge on what is more or less a road bike with panniers! I have changed the gearing a bit now to help with the hills, but I am thinking about a stronger set of wheels. I got away with 32 spokes last time but would like that extra bit of security really.

Re: Default tourer?

21 December 2014 - 11:17am
I have been following this thread because I have an LHT. My comments are half way down page 2.

I find it all rather amusing with people doing all the comparisons. Unfortunately this is a luxury that many (most) of us can't do. I don't have a stock of bikes in my shed, so can't say how they compare to an LHT. I think the majority of people are in my situation. I chose this bike based on recommendations and now ride it. Maybe if I trawled the bike shops and got them to lend me different bikes for short tours I would find my bike is rubbish and would change it.

As far as I am concerned it seems OK to me. As I said I have toured on it a lot, I tour for about 5 months a year, then use the bike for local stuff.

Re: Touring and Camping - Campsite POI's

21 December 2014 - 8:53am
A new update of Archie's Camping is available - http://www.archiescampings.eu/eng1/ - and there is a complete new look to this version, as well as the usual updated information and POI's for 30,000 plus campsites throughout Britain and Europe.

Those who have Archie's saved as a 'favourite' will want to change this to go to the new website. Downloads can now be done directly from the home page, and POI's are available for all the Camping Cheque sites and Best Deal sites, for those who have access to the Best Deal App, but unfortunately not yet for the ACSI Card sites.

For those who have a smartphone Archie's is now also available as a App from Google Play.

An earlier post mentions the POI's for Lidl, and supermarkets in Europe - this is also available through Archie's Camping website, and as a PDF version which can be printed off using the link to Parafoeter's page, down in the bottom right hand corner.

Please feel free to post this on any other forums where you think the information may be appreciated.

Re: Default tourer?

21 December 2014 - 8:43am
RonK wrote:reohn2 wrote:So following on from all this speculation,has anyone had an LHT or DT,thought they weren't good bikes and why?
Yes, I had an LHT which was replaced after one tour. Apart from the appalling finish which had rust appearing after only a few months, I found it a dull, unresponsive, unrewarding ride - a real slug.

What did you replace it with?

Re: Default tourer?

21 December 2014 - 3:55am
reohn2 wrote:So following on from all this speculation,has anyone had an LHT or DT,thought they weren't good bikes and why?
Yes, I had an LHT which was replaced after one tour. Apart from the appalling finish which had rust appearing after only a few months, I found it a dull, unresponsive, unrewarding ride - a real slug.

Re: Default tourer?

20 December 2014 - 11:50pm
So following on from all this speculation,has anyone had an LHT or DT,thought they weren't good bikes and why?

Geneva to Nice July / Aug 2015

20 December 2014 - 8:28pm
Wanted – companions – July / August : Fly Geneva, visit Cern, lakes, mountains, gorges and Cols in the Alps and onto to the Monaco, return from Nice. Approximate route https://goo.gl/maps/JPfuz

Camping, 50 to 60 miles per day. Approx 2 weeks and 3 days – late July to early August, approx 800 miles. Covering parts of the Route Napoléon and the Route Des Grandes Alpes
Two to three nights in Geneva, Chamonix Annecy, La Grave, Castellane, Nice.

Geneva, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva
Chamonix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiguille_du_Midi
Morzine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morzine
Annecy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annecy
Vizelle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vizille
Alpe D’Huez http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpe_d%27Huez
Col Du Galibier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col_du_Galibier
Braincon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian%C3%A7on
Castellane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castellane
Gordes Du Verdon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verdon_Gorge
Gorges Du Duluis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorges_de_Daluis
Èze http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eze
Monaco http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco

Cern https://openlab-mu-internal.web.cern.ch ... RN_Access/

Route Napoléon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_Napol%C3%A9on
Route Des Grandes Alpes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_des_Grandes_Alpes


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Re: Cycling to Axbridge from Bristol

20 December 2014 - 7:21pm
I heard about the chocolate path long before Strava started in 2009. Knowing Bristolian humour, I suspect it got that name soon after it was built in the early 1900s, what with Dairy Milk first going on sale around the same time.

Bristol City Council call it by that name AFAIK

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