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Re: Cycle Touring Festival Clitheroe

20 January 2015 - 11:20pm
The cost of the event is probably the right price for what's on offer, but as the majority of people attending will be cycle tourists, most of whom will be camping and suspect like myself will prefer to supply and cook their own food , you end up paying for 3 meals you do not need.
I hope the event is a success but fear the above will put a lot of people off which is a shame a I had the dates in my diary

Re: Touring in Norway

20 January 2015 - 11:01pm
Vorpal wrote:
As cycletourer said, main roads in Norway often use tunnels where cyclists are not allowed. In addition to the site linked above, it may be worth checking this one http://www.vegdata.no/2014/06/17/cyclin ... n-tunnels/ This one is off the highways department database, so it doesn't depend on people updating it; information about new tunnels is always good here, but information about older ones is not always available, so check both the site that cycletourer linked, and this one.


I concur with Vorpal that is good to check both the vegkart and our tunnel map as the Statens vegvesen (the Norwegian road authority) do occasionally change whether tunnels are banned to cyclists. We have to rely on cyclists and local Norwegians keeping us informed of any changes. Unfortunately the Vegkart isn't that intuitive to use. To find the tunnel information type 'tunnel' in the search box in the top right and then click tunnel in the search list. This will then bring up the tunnels on the map. By zooming in to the area that you will be travelling through you will see that the tunnels are marked as a green dot on the road. If you click on the dot it will give you a list of the information on the tunnel. In the list look for 'Sykkelforbud:' if it says 'Ja' it is forbidden to cycle through. The advantage to our map is that for planning purposes it is visually easier to see the banned sites as they are marked in red.

beardy wrote:Asking from the viewpoint of somebody who has never flown with a bike, do the luggage weight limits allow you to carry enough kit (including the bike) for four weeks of wild camping?

To add to this. A lot of airlines do charge per item of baggage, for us that would be 4 panniers and a racpac each. We get around this by putting the panniers in a couple of large tote bags which are light enough that we could carry them but we tend to do circular tours so we tend to leave these at an hotel or campsite for pick up on our return.

jakobpoffley wrote:Thank you cycletourer for your reply,

I'd actually already found your website and it has been very helpful. The lofoten isles do look amazing but i'm not sure how i would combine them into the trip. I'd like to think that i'm good at reading maps and i prefer to stick to proper roads than tracks and cycle routes because they always take so much longer. I'm glad the touring can be quite tough becuase i want it to be challenging. Thanks for showing me your tunnel map. I'm sure it will be extremely useful in choosing a more specific route when the time comes. What i'm thinking of maybe doing is starting in oslo then cycling west to Bergen maybe go a bit south. Then cycle up to Tronheim which when looking at flights it seems you can get direct flights to england to get home. Please let me know what you think. Also is it worth trying to visit pulpit rock?

Thanks once again

Oslo through to Bergen and then on to Trondheim is approximately 750 miles. Remember on the mountainous roads in Norway you may not be able to do the same speeds or distance that you may normally do. You may have to use the old roads that go around the banned tunnels these are often a longer distance than the tunnel or they may go over the mountain passes that the tunnels now avoid. There is also the good old Norwegian weather to consider, which is akin to Scottish weather. Therefore have some contingencies planned where you could shorten your route or the potential to get on a bus, train or ferry (the hurtigruten ferry runs the length of the west coast of Norway) to complete your route or else assist you along the way if you look like running out of time.

As far as going along the Ralarvegen you may have to do that or take a southern route as RV7 is currently effectively closed to cyclists due to the Måbøtunnelen being closed to cyclists and the alternative route for cyclists closed due to rockfall. When I recently contacted the Statens Vegvesen they were unclear as to when the rockfall would get cleared and the alternative route opened to cyclists.

The Ralarvegen is certainly OK to do on most touring bikes including a Dawes Galaxy, but there are a couple of sections after Finse where you might have to get of and walk for a short way, but it is certainly worth that for the scenery.

As far as Pulpit Rock is concerned, personally I haven't been there but from all accounts if the weather is good the views are spectacular.

Re: bicycle travellers looking to volunteer around europe

20 January 2015 - 10:17pm
gplhl wrote:Workaway is worth the fee. I've had my money's worth and some great experiences, especially in France and Rabat. Just be careful of those that look to make you work full time and use it instead of getting employees. The placement should be mutually beneficial. Had one person in Portugal expect me to work 8 hours a day 6 days a week. I erm, declined their placement. It pays to find out what and how much is expected beforehand as some don't stick to the guidelines.

Gary
http://www.longbikeride.co.uk

A worthy post Gary to point out to those starting out their travels. Now I'm 40 I'm more wary. I work for someone every 2 weeks for 3 hours and charge them full rates. I look after the lawns, herbaceous borders and herb garden and sometimes the fruit garden. When in conversation with the landowner about WWOOFERS he mentioned that he would only take on those who would do a full day's work 6 days a week. Fine if you are gainfully employed but when you are young, travelling around the World to take in the sites and sounds that defeats the object. The upshot of it is: in 2 years I've never seen a WWOOFER on their property yet!

Re: Touring in Norway

20 January 2015 - 10:14pm
I've never cycled in Norway but I have motorcycled. If you are camping note that it can get COLD, even in Summer. On our trip at the end of June it was falling to 3C some nights. However all/most campsites have huts of various levels of luxury that you can hire if you need a rest from the wild camping.

The huts are also useful to allow a bit of drying out. Good/excellent waterproofs, even in the height of summer are a must.

Oh, yes, must add, really good insect repellent would be another must. At least full motorcycle leathers, helmet and gloves keep the midges off and you wont be wearing those on your bike.

The fjord are around Bergen would be an excellent, if hilly, place to explore. Can you still get to Bergen from Newcastle by ferry? That might avoid aeroplane hassles.

Re: Touring in Norway

20 January 2015 - 10:12pm
Vorpal wrote:A Dawes Galaxy can almost certainly do the job, but there are some rough sections. If you don't like that sort of thing, it's probably better avoided. If you get to Flåm, take the Flåmsbana train up to see the view, have a picnic lunch, and ride the train back down again
Okay thats good to know. I'll think about it. How long is the route? That train looks incredible!

Re: Cycle Touring Festival Clitheroe

20 January 2015 - 10:10pm
Looks like an excellent line up of speakers, I'm trying to work out if I can make it, I had other plans for that week.
I'm not put off by the price, I'd expect to spend £30-£40 on any weekends camping with a couple of meals. There's a couple of speakers that if appearing locally I'd pay to see, so already I can see how I'd get my monies worth. I'm not sure the comparisons with Mildenhall or York are fair, they're all different.

Re: bicycle travellers looking to volunteer around europe

20 January 2015 - 9:43pm
Workaway is worth the fee. I've had my money's worth and some great experiences, especially in France and Rabat. Just be careful of those that look to make you work full time and use it instead of getting employees. The placement should be mutually beneficial. Had one person in Portugal expect me to work 8 hours a day 6 days a week. I erm, declined their placement. It pays to find out what and how much is expected beforehand as some don't stick to the guidelines.

Gary
www.longbikeride.co.uk

Re: Touring in Norway

20 January 2015 - 9:36pm
A Dawes Galaxy can almost certainly do the job, but there are some rough sections. If you don't like that sort of thing, it's probably better avoided. If you get to Flåm, take the Flåmsbana train up to see the view, have a picnic lunch, and ride the train back down again

Re: 2nd pair of shoes

20 January 2015 - 9:32pm
Flip flops too. 70p for a deluxe pair in Tanzania, 50p in Mali! Otherwise cycling sandals and shoes. Flip flops weigh nowt!

Gary
www.longbikeride.co.uk

Cycle Touring Festival Clitheroe

20 January 2015 - 9:25pm
Sweep wrote:I feel slightly bad about posting this as i wish the event well.

I have been told that the camping component is only £4 a night.

I was interested as i have a bed in clitheroe.

I'm with you on this. I wish the organisers well and hope their business plan has legs for future events. Festivals are a tough call.

I just feel a bit odd about the pricing as I was under the impression that this was a 'not for profit' event. I don't know how much the caterers, landowners, insurance companies etc are charging or how much the trade exhibitors are being charged but it is just WAY much more than ANY similar festival I've been to. To be a harsh critic the programme of events etc isn't particularly packed with extraordinary stuff.

What's the story guys?

Re: Cycle Touring Festival Clitheroe

20 January 2015 - 9:04pm
I feel slightly bad about posting this as i wish the event well.

I have been told that the camping component is only £4 a night.

I was interested as i have a bed in clitheroe.

Re: Cycle Touring Festival Clitheroe

20 January 2015 - 9:00pm
theDaveB wrote:Yeah too expensive for me as well.

Dave

I've emailed to see if they are offering an entry only ticket. £75 is 15 days on the road to me.

Gary
www.longbikeride.co.uk

Re: Cycle Touring Festival Clitheroe

20 January 2015 - 8:38pm
By comparison the June 2015 York Rally http://www.yorkrally.org/ is £20 for 3 nights camping and the early bird was £15. OK it doesn't include 2 lunches and dinner but they ain't gonna cost much at the Wetherspoon Punchbowl pub just a 5 minutes cycle from the Knavesmire. They do a brilliant breakfast there and keep an excellent pint.
Can't remember what Mildenhall cost in 2014 but I think it was under £20.

As for comparing it to festival costs last proper one I went to was 4 quid. Headline acts were Hendrix, The Doors and the Who with the likes of Joni Mitchel, Joan Baez, Family, Free, ELP and Jethro Tull thrown in for good measure.

Re: Touring in Norway

20 January 2015 - 8:37pm
Vorpal wrote:jakobpoffley wrote:Vorpal wrote:The only faster way over the central mountains is by other means of transport.
Couldn't I go further south? My bike doesn't have very wide tires so i don't think the Rallarvegen would work.
What tyres do you have? I said fattish just meaning that 25 mm wide tyres aren't suitable. I probably woulnd't try it with 28 mm, either, but most bikes that can carry camping gear will be okay on Rallarvegen. I've done it on a hybrid with 32 mm wide Marathons.

And, of course you can go further south. But the road routes through the mountains to the south: E16, route 7, and E134 all have tunnels that ban cyclists, and it's pretty much impossible to completely avoid them. But that said, if you are okay with taking buses to get through a couple of places where you can't take a bike in a tunnel, there are some alternatives. If you want, I'll see if I can come up with a couple of suggestions.

You can also go around on the coast, which is obviously longer, but has it's own attractions.

I'm probably going to go on my brother's dawes galaxy tourer but i don't know what tyres it has but I don't think particularly wide. If you think its do-able then you'd obviously know better than me but i must be honest that i want to be cautious because i haven't had particularly good experiences with tracks like that in the past and i don't want to be stuck on it for ages if it's really not suitable. It does look beautiful though and i'm sure it is amazing!
I see... would it work to go as far south as somewhere like stavanger or would that be avoiding beautiful parts of norway? I think going all the way round the coast would take to long. If you could find some alternatives i would be very grateful.

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

20 January 2015 - 8:37pm
Thats what I am figuring - I don't get to the UK until after the festival, and won't be hitting midwales for a few days after arrival.

Re: Cycle Touring Festival Clitheroe

20 January 2015 - 8:19pm
Never been to a festival or concert or anything else like that in my life so I did wonder if the price was fair or not. I suppose they (the organisers) might be paying a small fortune for the use of the grounds (they look a bit posh), the 3 meals, insurance (I'm guessing a hundred or so cyclists riding across the wet grass might make a mess), costs for the speakers, advertising and who knows what else.
But reading the last few posts, I guess I'm not such a tight**** after all
I feel better now

Re: Touring in Norway

20 January 2015 - 7:18pm
beardy wrote:Asking from the viewpoint of somebody who has never flown with a bike, do the luggage weight limits allow you to carry enough kit (including the bike) for four weeks of wild camping?
Last summer my family and i managed to do a 3 week trip with just the bikes in the hold and hand luggage. We also had one hold bag to put a few things in but put a couple of things and empty panniers in with the bikes.

Re: Touring in Norway

20 January 2015 - 7:15pm
Vorpal wrote:The only faster way over the central mountains is by other means of transport.
Couldn't I go further south? My bike doesn't have very wide tires so i don't think the Rallarvegen would work.

Re: 2nd pair of shoes

20 January 2015 - 6:55pm
Flipflops. Nice to air the feet out in the evening and I can wear them in the shower on dodgy campsites. I tried Crocs and hated them. Left them in a rubbish bin somewhere in Germany.

Re: accommodation

20 January 2015 - 6:52pm
I think in the OPs case it's not so bad as he is sharing and you have to divide by two even thought it is his beloved and he may be picking up the tab. Touring solo it cost's a fortune! Accommodation is my biggest problem when touring alone. I have often had to pay too much because there is nothing else and it's getting late. I take emergency camping gear with me and I do have to use it. I agree about paying a fortune just to lay my head down for a few hours.
In October there were two of us touring Portugal. My touring partner had the latest I phone with a Booking.Com App. We booked hotels as we sat in the town square and then just wandered in ten minutes later. We often secured good rooms with breakfast for about £30 for two. It was so easy. I'm on a humble old Blackberry phone that is useless for this type of thing. I'm currently trying to find a pay as you go phone that I can use to duplicate this for reasonable money as normally nobody texts or rings me.

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