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Re: 200km the aftermath and advice wanted

26 October 2015 - 10:39am
Do something new and you can expect some new aches and pains. The body adapts to your normal exercise load over time; go beyond that and its not ready. Reduce your riding and you will loose cardiovascular fitness as well as some muscle. Increase the riding and they will increase.

1. Happens to us all. If the saddle is the right fit then as you do more long rides you will adapt and the soreness should lessen. Alternatively try Vaseline or chamois cream on the 'sore' spots before you set off

2. Sore neck is often caused by hunching up your shoulders. Your shoulders need to stabilise against something otherwise your upper body is weak. Hunching up your shoulders makes them rely on your neck to stabilise and your neck muscles are not that strong so do some shoulder shrugs and bring them back down into a neutral position (but not using your lats and traps to pull them right down). Here they will stabilise against your core which is very strong. Check periodically during the ride where they are. The tendency is to rise as you tire

3. Possibly caused by lower back muscles tiring as your lower back tries to stabilise your hips so that the glutes and hamstrings have something to work against. If your lumbar spine bends so that you have a 'banana' profile the lower back muscles will be stretched and not working in their strongest alignment. Tight glutes, hamstrings and/or hip flexors may need to be sorted. Try riding with a neutral lumbar curve bending the back higher up to get down on the drops or move forward on the saddle when you go down to keep the lower spine aligned

Hope some of this helps


Re: 200km the aftermath and advice wanted

26 October 2015 - 10:36am
Go out and do say 20 miles today. At easy pace no more than 80% of maximum effort

You are bound to get twinges if you haven't done that distance before
Stretching can help as well particularly for the lower back area. But I always think getting back on the bike is the best way to relieve the aches pains post a long distance ride.

Re: 200km the aftermath and advice wanted

26 October 2015 - 10:30am
samsbike wrote:What can I do with respect to the above?

I think the answer lies in your beginning...
samsbike wrote:For the first time yesterday I did a 200km ride,

You went beyond what you usually do. I think some discomfort is normal.

That you could do it at all suggests that your position on the bike is quite good. That you have some neck ache, even on short rides suggests it's not quite perfect, yet.

If you want to ride 200 km more comfortably, you need to do it more often. Or at least 100 + miles more often.

200km the aftermath and advice wanted

26 October 2015 - 9:58am
For the first time yesterday I did a 200km ride, well slightly longer I think it turned out at around 131miles.

Overall I had tinges but the position on the bike worked relatively well especially up to around 110miles. The last 50 or so miles I had twinges in the knees and legs that moved around and today the right knee hurts but not in bad way just a gentle throb.

Post that though this is what did hurt -

1. my bum, despite a brooks canbium and padded shorts - this was beginning to really irritate on the last 20 miles
2. my neck and RH trapezius muscle (something that even happens on short rides)
3. very slight lower back ache.

What can I do with respect to the above?

Overall the position on the bike works and I like the ability to move around the seat (fore aft) especially to climb uphill when I move very slightly backwards. The bars were set so I used tops, hoods and drops. I am not sure if using the drops contributed to the neck ache.

The neck is the one bit that still hurts today especially when I turn it.


Re: Removing rear dérailleur when flying

25 October 2015 - 12:39pm
Well I took the mech off twice on a recent trip from the UK to Spain and back and it seemed like a very effective solution. I used three zip ties to attach it and the chain to the frame. Had no trouble putting it back on at the other end - cross-threading seems unlikely though I will still exercise caution next time as when you are reassembling a bike at an airport you're usually tired and in a rush and it's easy to bodge something up.

Re: New Zealand Tour

25 October 2015 - 11:25am
I did the West Coast Wilderness Trail (one of the more gravelly routes) on my little Bike Friday folder, so I can't imagine you'd have too many issues with 35mm Marathons.

Not all the roads have shoulders - and on some of those that do they're too narrow to be much use. That said, I don't think I encountered too many roads on the South Island where I'd be uncomfortable on the bike, but there were certainly some on the North Island.

Worth checking too that whatever you're using for navigation shows the difference between surfaced and unsurfaced roads - we got caught out once when we encountered a sudden change to gravel in the hire car after 20 miles of tarmac... turns out the otherwise exemplary MapOut for iPhone doesn't mark unpaved roads differently!

Re: New Zealand Tour

25 October 2015 - 10:20am
Generally you should be able to ride most gravel roads (except perhaps after they've been graded) with that set up but Marathon Supreme sidewalls can be a bit fragile so maybe think about a tougher tyre.
Yes most NZ main roads have a good shoulder that you can ride on but it often means that traffic won't move over at all to pass you, so keep well to the left if its busy, also the shoulders disappear at bridges.
Only restricted roads are the motorways, of which there are only two or three short ones in the whole country close to the main cities, and there are plenty alternatives.
I can't comment on mobile internet as its seven years since I was last in NZ, but why not get Viewranger or something on your phone, they have the whole of the South Island at 1:50,000 topographical mapping for £15, or whole of NZ for £22 https://shop.viewranger.com/products.php?category_id=33

Re: New Zealand Tour

25 October 2015 - 9:43am
Thanks for all the replies so far. I googled the holidays and the schools go back the first week of Feb, which is when I'll be starting so all good there. Yes, a return flight is currently £1089, but I may have to pay an excess baggage charge on top as it's a 30kg allowance. I'll let you know assuming Singapore airlines ever answer my email to them on the subject....

When touring I like to aim for a minimum of 100k a day and set a target about that distance away and then just see how it goes. Sometimes 65 miles is plenty and sometimes I'm having so much fun I just carry on to 80, 100, 120 depending on the terrain and weather and availability of camping. I have to confess it's all about the cycling for me, with the location just being a bonus. I'm mad I know but there a sense of achievement and thrill I get from powering an 80lb bicycle for 200k that no view or historic landmark can ever top.

I've seen that there are a lot of dedicated cycle trails on South Island which from the pictures appear to be gravel tracks. Although it's a road bike I'm riding, it's got Deore hubs, A719 rims and 35mm Marathon Supreme tyres. It can comfortably cope with canal towpaths and the like so does anyone have an informed opinion as to whether it'll be up to these New Zealand tracks and the gravel roads out there?

Also, I can see from Google that the main roads connecting the towns seem to be good single carriageways with a strip of tarmac to cycle on beyond the white lines in many places. Are there any roads with cycling restrictions and if so, will I be able to find alternative, parallel roads that I can ride on?

Finally, can anyone give me an idea what the mobile internet is like on the island as I usually navigate by Google maps and Garmin? Should I be buying a road atlas?

Thanks in advance!

Re: Tour video of London (Outskirts) to Paris - Avenue Verte

25 October 2015 - 9:15am
I am going to do this next year.




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