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Re: 2 weeks cycling hollidays with 4 kids in Europe

19 October 2015 - 3:02pm
Holland - just foreign enough but brilliant for family cycling up the coast - no big hills, beaches aplenty, ride all day without having to worry about cars and the weather is fairly good too - and the bonus - its easy to get there!

Re: Old A30

19 October 2015 - 2:35pm
Hi Mick - very many thanks for that! I'll try plotting it on Bikehike - if I get stuck I'll ask for a gpx.

Re: Trip report - Faro to Porto

19 October 2015 - 2:24pm
I've just done a very similar route to that. After getting to Porto I just went east into Spain around Zamora. Gets pretty hilly over that way. Felt like the gradients were generally pleasant but in some cases had some seriously steep parts.

Didn't realise it was so hilly, had a 17.5 mile climb, but it was like 4% average, so not that difficult.

Really enjoyed the cork lined roads in the south, shame that most of it is all fenced off, some great wild camping spots to be had.

Also, I think they have a problem with stray dogs, they are more than up for chasing a cyclist. Generally, will sit near your back wheel and bark. Didn't seem like they were likely to bite. Gets the heart pumping though and can get a good race out of them.

The police caught me camping one night, just said be careful about your belongings and left me to it.

It was slightly marred by 3 days of rain, put a downer on things.

Overall, cheap country with some delightful scenery.

2 weeks cycling hollidays with 4 kids in Europe

19 October 2015 - 1:19pm
Hello,

We like cycling and we likes holidays.
Easter last ear, we went for a 2 weeks trip on the Isle of Wight. We organised and booked everything ourselves. This time, we would like to go a little bit further but where?


I have looked on INternet but can not find any advice about small family trips in Europe. Either iit iis a blog of a family taking a year off or it is a advertisment...

We are looking for::
- safe road
- 2 hours of cycling a day (200km in ttwo weeks to give you an idea...)
- lot of things to see and do without gooing too far
- cheap accomodation / cheap renting of bikes/ trailers


Over the last two years, it has become harder and harder to take the train with bikes (6 of us) . Trailers don t seem to be accepted anywhere.

If anybody would like to take their family to the Isle of Wight, I can help !

Nathalie

Re: New Zealand Tour

19 October 2015 - 1:14pm
800 miles will pretty much take you around the South Island. If you are avoiding gravel roads and tracks, that just leaves you with the main road in most parts of the island, which is generally ok and will take you through some great scenery, but can be relatively busy at weekends and in holiday season (january).
If you're covering 80 miles a day, you won't get a few days on the flat to start, you might get one day on the Canterbury Plains.
Best bet is Christchurxh-Tekapo-Omarama-Oamaru-Dunedin-Alexandra-Queenstown-Wanaka-Makarora-Haast-Franz Josef-Greymouth-Arthur's Pass-Springfield-Christchurch.
If you have more time then from Greymouth-Westport-St Arnaud-Nelson-Picton-Blenheim-Kaikoura-Chrischurch.

Re: Old A30

19 October 2015 - 12:48pm
whoof wrote:Since the Goss Moor section has been turned into a dual carriageway you get to ride past the Owl Sanctuary!

I am surprised at the number of people that don't use it. Someone at works son was riding LeJoG this summer and asked for advice on the route, which I gave. He didn't take it and rode from Exeter to Penzance on the dual carriage way. I've road raced and time-trialed on sections of the dual carriage way I can't think of a more miserable place to go just for a ride.The problem with the Old A30 through Goss Moor etc is Bodmin. Easy to get there, hard to get out.

Just say you go along Goss Moor, Fraddon. Indian Queens, Victoria, Laddock, Old Coach Road into Bodmin.

Then what?

You can aim at the A38 at Carminow Cross and then turn off past the Crematorium and head out via Fletchers Bridge and St Neot. From there it's out to Minions and Upton Cross and Launceston.
This is VERY VERY VERY hilly.
There are other ways out, but they are a bit convoluted over Bodmin Moor but you'll still end up at Camelford.
Far easier, is the route I described,

Re: Old A30

19 October 2015 - 12:32pm
LollyKat wrote:I often see Mick F and others refer to the Old A30. Funnily enough I can't find a road marked Old A30 on any map, even though some mark General Wade's military roads.

I still have dreams of doing LeJog and would love to follow the recommendations but am stymied when I try.

So Mick, when you have a moment please put me out of my misery and post a real, actual route that I can trace out on a map!
Do you want it verbally or a GPX?

Roughly, verbally ............
LE to Penzance on the A30 and then through the town.
A30 to Hayle and through the town to the roundabout.
Cross over through Connor Downs to Camborne (Old A30)
Through the town and on to Redruth, through the town up the hill past the railway station and out on the Old A30 to Blackwater.
From there, you need to get on the New A30 and minor roads and through Zelah and minor roads again through St Newlyn East, then St Columb Road, St Columb Major, and then onto the A39 for Wadebridge.
Either go through the town or stay on the A39 past Royal Cornwall Showground. Going into the town is good, but it's a climb back out.
Follow A39 to Camelford and straight through and up to Davidstow. Turn off right onto the A395 and keep going through Hallworthy.
Turn off to Egloskerry on a minor road, and follow this straight on at Tresmeer and through Egloskerry past the school and the church.
This road eventually comes out at St Stephens just north of Launceston.
Out at the T junction by the church, turn right, then first left and down the hill to the Spar shop.
Turn left at the mini roundabout and first right. This is a sort of by-pass around the hills. See Launceston Castle over on you right way up on the hill.
At the T junction, turn right and fallow this past the equestrian centre and out onto the Old A30 by Launceston Rugby Club.
Turn left, cross the River Tamar into England, and carry on on this Old A30 for mile after mile.
Eventually, at Sourton, turn left on the A386 and go under the New A30 and past the service area and past the slip road.
About a mile later, turn right down a tiny road signposted Meldon.
Bottom of the hill is then the Old A30 again and this bit tapers in to the main part of the Old A30 into Okehampton.
Straight through the town and turn left at the traffic lights down to a mini roundabout and turn up the hill to the right.
Follow this road B3215 and then A3072 and A377 into Crediton.
Turn left in the town onto the A3072 for Bickleigh. ******
Head for Tiverton and then Halberton and Samford Peverell to J27 M5 to join A38 and follow that as far as you want ...........

From here, you need to make decisions because there are a variety of ways of getting north.
Pinch points are River Severn - cross it or not ........... then River Mersey - Warrington if you want, then River Ribble at Preston.
Next is Carlisle, but you can go via the middle, Glasgow or Edinburgh but you have to cross the River Clyde or the River Forth.
Next pinch point is Inverness and there are basically two ways to get there. Up Loch Ness or up the A9 corridor via Pitlochry.
From Inverness, you can either go up the middle to the North Coast and turn right, or follow the East Coast.


******
Rob's Passage is a good way of avoiding the hills on the A3072.
Search on this forum for the route!

Re: Old A30

19 October 2015 - 12:20pm
Since the Goss Moor section has been turned into a dual carriageway you get to ride past the Owl Sanctuary!

I am surprised at the number of people that don't use it. Someone at works son was riding LeJoG this summer and asked for advice on the route, which I gave. He didn't take it and rode from Exeter to Penzance on the dual carriage way. I've road raced and time-trialed on sections of the dual carriage way I can't think of a more miserable place to go just for a ride.

New Zealand Tour

19 October 2015 - 11:59am
As the nights draw in I'm finding that I'm pining for long days on the bike and don't think I can wait 'till next spring and summer in France to experience the satisfaction of a long tour, so I'm looking at the "swallow option" of flying south.

Singapore airlines will take me from Heathrow to Christchurch for about £1,1000 at the end of January, so I'm thinking of 15 days (probably 10 or 11 cycling when you take off the travelling and jet-lag) around South Island. Does anybody have any suggestions for a route of around 800 miles? I'll be on a road bike so need to avoid gravel roads and tracks. I don't mind a few hills, but would prefer a few days on the flat to get my legs in first and I'm looking to camp wherever possible to keep the cost down and the freedom up.

Anybody with any ideas, suggestions or experience of a similar trip. ?

Re: Old A30

19 October 2015 - 10:19am
I often see Mick F and others refer to the Old A30. Funnily enough I can't find a road marked Old A30 on any map, even though some mark General Wade's military roads.

I still have dreams of doing LeJog and would love to follow the recommendations but am stymied when I try.

So Mick, when you have a moment please put me out of my misery and post a real, actual route that I can trace out on a map!

Which C2C in winter

19 October 2015 - 9:38am
Hi everybody
Having just returned to the UK having been deployed for the last 5 months I intend to ride one of the Coast-to-Coast routes with my Daughter at the end of next week.
We have three days available for the ride and intend to camp, my daughter is 14 and is no stranger to loaded touring or to long days on the bike though this will be her first winter tour.
What I’m unsure of is which route to use, Reivers, Hadrian’s, or C2C.
I’m thinking that Hadrian’s might be the best route for winter trip, starting at Workington and finishing in Newcastle (home). I’m also wondering which bike would suit the route best, my daughter wants to us to ride the recumbents, her on an ICE trike me on my Challenge Seiran. What’s the route like for barriers, obstacles an off road sections? Would we be better off on uprights?

Re: Old A30

19 October 2015 - 7:52am
quilkin wrote:Mick, do you know some roads near to me that I don't know? I'd be interested in your route between Tregadillet and Bodmin without going on very busy bits of the A30. Also between Zelah and Blackwater.Sorry, maybe I wasn't being clear.

The Old A30 exists, but not completely. My list of towns and villages are of the places by-passed by the New A30. You can go through each of them on the Old A30, but not necessarily get between them on it.

Tregadillet is almost an island, and so is Five Lanes, and Bodmin is a pig to get in and out of by bike. Mitchell is an island too.
Zelah/Blackwater you need to use the A30 - and yes of course it's not dualled yet - my mistake!
However, it's not very busy there IME.

As it happens, my ride on Friday saw me coming along the B3285 through Goonhavern to the A30. I peeled off only a mile later BEFORE Carland Cross. Awful roundabout!
I took the minor road which turned out to be a bit of old main road (Old A30?). I came out on the New A39, crossed it, then onto the Old 39 Truro/Carland Cross road - now a bridal way. You can follow the back lanes into Mitchell from there.

After lunch, I went along the back lanes and bits of Old A30 through Sumercourt but had to go back on minor roads through St Enoder before getting back on it at Penhale/Fraddon.Screen Shot 2015-10-19 at 08.50.17.png

Re: Cycle touring insurance

19 October 2015 - 7:15am
It is worth mentioning that unless cycle touring is specifically mentioned in a policy it probably isn't covered. It may mention cycling but in the fine print there may be a low limit on the number of days or some other restriction. I've been caught out by this when I discovered my insurer classed cycle touring as a dangerous sport!

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