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Re: Venice to Lecce - and how to get there (and back)

11 October 2014 - 6:46pm
We have just returned from Italy having ridden down from the UK to near Rome. We returned to London by a variety of trains, including the Venice-Paris Thello sleeper, which we boarded at it's Milan stop.

Italian railways are generally pretty good with bikes and they can be carried on their Fleccia Rossa high speed lines provided they are in a bike bags*. These trains have space at the end of the carriage that easily accommodated both our bike bags (wheels removed). However, if you use Trenitalia's slower speed "Regionale" trains (they have an R prefix before the train number on the then than the bikes can usually travel whole in a special compartment at the front/rear of the train. However bikes are not permitted on all regionale trains, but a glance at the time table in the station or on line will quickly tell you those that do permit bikes.

Personally I found Deutsche Bahn's website (http://www.bahn.com/i/view/GBR/en/) easier to use than Trenitalia's website to find the Regionale trains (just untick "Prefer fast connections" and tick "Local transport" on the serach screen). Returning to Venice from Lecce would take about 24 hours using the Regionale trains and involve several chains, but it may be possible to break the journey over several days, perhaps riding some of it. However it will be worth it, I have previously toured in Puglia and it is great and has some of the best food in Italy.... which is really saying something!

* we bought ours at a Decathlon store at the end of the ride near Rome.

Re: Motorhome Support

11 October 2014 - 6:23pm
A friend of mine used his MH to support two guys on a LeJog last year. If that's of interest, pm me your email address and I'll put you in touch.

Cheers
Barry

Re: Dry bags - a lightweight alternative to panniers

11 October 2014 - 4:02pm
foxyrider wrote:Sooper8 wrote:daddig wrote:I'm considering using items from the likes of Alpkit to make the bags more stable and make the fitting and removal easier !


I'd be interested in this idea. I am going down this route too and any pointers would be appreciated.

By the way - You know on Alpkit site at moment, in clearance, they have a few dry bags with slight faults at discount price?

The fault being they leak?

There is a thread on here about the drybag panniers i made - viewtopic.php?f=42&t=83886

Thanks for that link. That is a very neat way of doing it. I was just thinking of ways of preventing it swinging too much when strapped under the saddle- but short of using a Carradice bag support, I can't really think of another way
BTW The 'fault' on those Alpkit seconds is that the buckles are Chinese copies and not up to standard.

Motorhome Support

11 October 2014 - 3:45pm
Has any one ever used MH as a support vehicle on Tour, in 'enviable' position of having a non-cycling wife, who can drive MH.
Interested in Routes/Campsites.
Thanks

Remote Regions and Disc Brakes

11 October 2014 - 3:12pm
That's a good idea! There is one reason not to go with a rear disc when coupled with a Rohloff. Rohloff's weep oil, if you get any on your disc you need to degrease them. Has happened once to me. Although I didn't degrease, descending a big hill it's possible to burn it off if you put the brakes on hard.

Gary
http://www.longbikeride.co.uk

Re: 24 spoke wheels

11 October 2014 - 3:07pm
The old rules of thumb about how many spokes you need simply don't apply to factory built wheels using non-traditional components. They often use beefier spokes with stronger attachment to the hub which means lower spoke counts are possible without sacrificing wheel strength. Rims tend to be stronger too.

There is a disadvantage in that the wheel will be much more affected by a broken spoke, but that's unlikely and you can always carry a spare.

So whether your wheels are strong enough for what you want to do depends on the wheel as a whole, not just the spoke count. I'm not familiar with your particular wheelset, but I'd expect them to be fine.

Re: Remote Regions and Disc Brakes

11 October 2014 - 2:57pm
If I was buying a remote region tourer now, I'd use BB7s and take a V brake as a spare. In the event of failure, you can simply shorten the cable and attach the V brake. V brakes are cheap, compact and weigh very little.

As it is, my tourer is way too old to have disc brakes and retro-fitting would be insanely expensive. There are arguments to be had about V vs disc brakes on remote tours, but really it just doesn't matter that much if you've figured out what you'll do in the event of problems.

Re: "End of the line for Europe's iconic night trains?"

11 October 2014 - 2:49pm
It is a great shame more isn't made of night trains. The quickest way of getting from anywhere near London to where I live in SW France is Eurostar to Paris followed by a night train to our local station. It means you can do full day of work in London, have dinner in Paris, and be here in time for breakfast the next morning. No other mode of transport gets anywhere close to that, and if you take CO2 into account, it is of course even better. For cyclists, there's no need to bag/dismantle your bike, and the journey can end somewhere you'd want to ride, not some god forsaken airport.

Unfortunately it's more expensive than flying and almost no-one seems to know about it.

Re: "End of the line for Europe's iconic night trains?"

11 October 2014 - 2:37pm
"Deutsche Bahn has postponed plans to operate through-trains to London, in a move that must be considered a set-back for international rail travel.
DB had been planning to operate high-speed ICE trains from Amsterdam and Frankfurt via Brussels and the Channel Tunnel into London St Pancras.
Indeed, after a delay of several years, DB finally secured permission last summer from the Tunnel authorities. Services were set to start after 2016."
Business Traveller 19/2/14

Re: Majorca Road Cycling

11 October 2014 - 2:26pm
Mark1978 wrote:Have to disagree with the general notion that drivers in Mallorca are the best behaved. Indeed I had about the same amount or perhaps more close passes than I would on an equivalent ride in the UK. Including one guy who sounded his horn and gesticulated at me when I was doing nothing more interesting than riding along in a straight line.

It may be that in the mountains and coast it's better but stray inland and it's like being back home.

Brits in a hire car methinks - latest one probably thought you were on wrong side of road...

Re: Chepstow to Portsmouth cycle route.

11 October 2014 - 1:56pm
Looking at the map, I'd have headed east out of Bristol to Chippenham, then SE to Devizes and Upavon, Ludgershall and Andover. Then Stockbridge, Winchester, Hambledon and Waterlooville to come into Pompey through Cosham and North End.

I've ridden many of those roads, but not for twenty odd years or so.

Re: Not just the trains

11 October 2014 - 1:53pm
mjr wrote:foxyrider wrote:Next Monday sees the last sailing of the DFDS Harwich-Esjberg ferry route, how are we supposed to get to Scandinavia now?
Daytime train, changing Brussels, Cologne and Hamburg. Once DB start running through the channel tunnel, you'll have the option of skipping the Brussels change.
When might this be? have you any more info about this?

Re: Chepstow to Portsmouth cycle route.

11 October 2014 - 1:42pm
I'd probably go roughly Bristol, south towards Shepton Mallet, east to Shaftesbury, across Cranborne Chase or a bit south of it, through the New Forest to Lymington, ferry to Isle of Wight, the ferry to Portsmouth.

Re: Majorca Road Cycling

11 October 2014 - 12:56pm
Well like anywhere there are always good and bad, and there is an occasional idiot driver even on Mallorca, but in general the standard is far higher with far less close passes and gesticulating motorists than I would have on my average commute. Sorry to hear of your experience.

Re: Dry bags - a lightweight alternative to panniers

11 October 2014 - 11:49am
Sooper8 wrote:daddig wrote:I'm considering using items from the likes of Alpkit to make the bags more stable and make the fitting and removal easier !


I'd be interested in this idea. I am going down this route too and any pointers would be appreciated.

By the way - You know on Alpkit site at moment, in clearance, they have a few dry bags with slight faults at discount price?

The fault being they leak?

There is a thread on here about the drybag panniers i made - viewtopic.php?f=42&t=83886

Re: Dry bags - a lightweight alternative to panniers

11 October 2014 - 10:16am
daddig wrote:I'm considering using items from the likes of Alpkit to make the bags more stable and make the fitting and removal easier !


I'd be interested in this idea. I am going down this route too and any pointers would be appreciated.

By the way - You know on Alpkit site at moment, in clearance, they have a few dry bags with slight faults at discount price?

Chepstow to Portsmouth cycle route.

11 October 2014 - 9:57am
Fifteen of us are planning to cycle from Anglesey to Paris in July 2015. Though we are familiar with the route down to Chepstow we have no experience of cycling from Chepstow to Portsmouth. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks,
Gethyn.

Re: Majorca Road Cycling

11 October 2014 - 6:44am
Have to disagree with the general notion that drivers in Mallorca are the best behaved. Indeed I had about the same amount or perhaps more close passes than I would on an equivalent ride in the UK. Including one guy who sounded his horn and gesticulated at me when I was doing nothing more interesting than riding along in a straight line.

It may be that in the mountains and coast it's better but stray inland and it's like being back home.

Re: Spain trip

10 October 2014 - 8:18pm
Goinridin wrote:I'm just in the very first stage of planning my next adventure. I haven't done anything since going coast to Coast over the
Pyreneese in 2010 after which I had my bike nicked. Anyway I'm feeling the itch to go on another journey.
For the last couple of years I've parked my motorhome up on a motorhome site quite close to Benidorm for around 3 months from early February to the middle of May. For 2015 I was thinking of instead of training on my racing bike around Benidorm I would have a bike tour of 3/4 weeks from Benidorm to follow the coast through Spain and Portugal to Compostela de Santiago and back through Madrid.
Does anyone have any tips, information as to wild camping, camping sites in fact any info at all. I intend/hope to wildcamp2 days and then campsite or b&b for 1 night to freshen up, and so on, I intend to begin in early May.

I'd suggest that the coastal route is damn hard work and not particularly pleasant, and downright dangerous in places, the cement trucks are Spain's skip wagons. The whole coast is v.busy and the roads not built for such capacity. Wild camping is practically non-existent, unless you are ok with sharing it with desperate immigrants and vagrants. Paid for camping is available but not cheap.

I'd go inland, traffic drops to super safe levels, it's a tranquil, another world and there are plenty of opportunities to safely wild camp.

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