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Re: Experience of La Vélodyssée/ Eurovelo 1

31 January 2015 - 8:07pm
Thanks Beekeeper,
I did it in July and found some less than perfect surfaces. Although full sus was overkill it was comfortable and helpful in the circumstances shown after heavy rain. This is my camping kit on the bike.Capture.JPG

Re: Loch and Glens route plus a bit more ?

31 January 2015 - 5:42pm
I've done both North and South sections of the lochs and glens route. I thoroughly enjoyed both. Highlights in the south included glentrool forest offroad. Like all sustrans routes I use it as a basic guide and then adapt it to suit my cycling and timetable. The only bit I found a bit dull was the flat bit around Annan and Gretna North of the solway.

Re: S W Coast Path Dorset to Lyme.

31 January 2015 - 5:34pm
I've ridden the A35, and don't recall it being particularly desperate. If you're going to do more of the SWW than just the section from Eype to Chideock bear in mind that it's quite hilly too. Between Chideock and Charmouth the path goes over Golden cap, the highest point on the south coast, and the path is currently closed just to the east of Charmouth due to landslide.

Re: S W Coast Path Dorset to Lyme.

31 January 2015 - 4:35pm
You only have to ride about a mile of A35 at Chideock. The short section of the SWP between Eype and Seatown to avoid that is grassy and likely to be reasonably wheelable if it isn't too wet on the day.

S W Coast Path Dorset to Lyme.

31 January 2015 - 4:16pm
I am planning a modest tour with a few friends from Weymouth in August, down to and around Portland (viewing the Portland Stone quarries...), with a view to then continuing to Lyme, on the road: the B1357 from Wyke Regis nr Portland through Abbotsbury to West Bay.

Question is: I don't want to ride the main road (A35 into Lyme), has anyone taken the coast path into Lyme, not so concerned about it being rideable but is it walkable with the bike?

This ride is to commemorate a tour my late Father did in August 1945 when he was 16. He rode to Lyme in a day from Surrey with a friend on his F.W Evans tandem (his was a tour of the west country though).

Thanks in advance.


Loch and Glens route plus a bit more ?

31 January 2015 - 4:09pm
Hi all

I am looking to do the Loch and Glens route in May 2015 travelling from Inverness to Glasgow (or the other way) its about 220 miles so I thinking about adding a bit more on to make a week out of it (live in Oxford)

Did JOGLE in 2012 so I like to idea of maybe travelling through Prestwick and New Galloway following route 7 to Carlisle. This looks interesting and I wondered if anyone has cycled this route.

Would appreciate any advice or comments



Neo Air Venture sleeping mat

31 January 2015 - 3:32pm
Has anybody used one of these mats before. I always suffer with hip problems sleeping on a roll mat, and this looks like a good option for my 2 week trip in June.
It packs small and weighs only 690 grams, which means it would fit in a pannier instead of being fastened to the rear rack.

Re: Garmin Tour mapping

31 January 2015 - 10:50am
Yup too.
I never let my Garmin think for itself unless I fancy a laugh.

This thread has put me in mind of something I've been thinking about ...............
Garmins have no comprehension of hills. Maybe if I bought the Topo Maps it could be different, but there is nothing in a Garmin device that will recognise chevrons for instance.

You can set them to navigate as a cyclist or a car. I have mine set to "car" because I have no wish to be sent down cycle tracks when there's a perfectly good road. I also set it to avoid major highways and toll roads of course.

During the week, we bought a TomTom for our Fiat 500. It's a dedicated unit for the Fiat 500 and connects via bluetooth to the car's system. I'm still playing with it.

However, I have noticed that it too has no comprehension of hills. Until this morning, I had it set to navigate the fastest route, but I found an "Eco" setting. I've yet to find if this makes any difference.

The reason I bring this up, is that the 18c turnpike road to Tavistock from here winds and bends snake-like up and down the hills, but the old packhorse route goes straight up and straight down. Some of the packhorse route is still in use and tarmaced and is used as a rat run if you want to get a move on. TomTom routes you that way.

When we drive to Tavistock, we take the longer turnpike route as it's easier on the car, more relaxing, and more gentle. I'd be interested if TomTom routes us along the gentle route later today when we go shopping.

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Re: Atlantic to the Med along the Pyrenees, Spanish side, Qs

31 January 2015 - 10:01am
My brother and I did it last year, following the Cicerone route. Our account of the trip is here: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/Spain2014
We didn't camp, partly because it is a very hilly route and we didn't want to carry excess weight. However, accommodation in Spain is very reasonable so it wasn't too expensive.

Others may disagree but I think the opportunities to wild camp are limited. The level bits are in the valleys and the Spanish are very keen on surrounding their land with wire fences. The mountain stretches are short on flat bits.

You don't say how old the family is, I wouldn't say this is a route for young children but probably OK for older teenagers.

Garmin Tour mapping

31 January 2015 - 9:51am
robgul wrote:Garmin routing is the work of Satan - plan your own routes with online or PC mapping and load your file - switch off the "tell me if I'm going the wrong way" feature on the Garmin.


Yup. Garmin's route-mapping is junk although the map software on the Edge is pretty good. Plan your routes on something like Cycle.Travel then upload your GPX file to the device.

EDIT: For £170 there are going to be limitations. It does the job it's meant to do and you have 3 routes to choose from if you let Garmin map a route for you. You can check the cross section of each route too.

I'm still an advocate of maps & compass. Nothing beats a lovely paper map.

Re: Sustrans routes GPS

31 January 2015 - 9:45am
Some of the route planners have the OSM cycle map which allows you to plot the route with your own modifications

Re: Garmin Tour mapping

31 January 2015 - 9:12am
Garmin routing is the work of Satan - plan your own routes with online or PC mapping and load your file - switch off the "tell me if I'm going the wrong way" feature on the Garmin.


Re: Garmin Tour mapping

31 January 2015 - 8:29am
Not had a problem with my Edge 800. It has trail and European maps, planning a route on Garmin Connect is easier to tweak than on the unit.

I picked the full bundle not because I'm a cycling goddess but because I figured it would work out cheaper and easier.
DCRainmaker advised the 800 over the Tour, but its a case of buy what ever makes you happy

Re: Sustrans routes GPS

31 January 2015 - 8:06am
People have mapped most/all of these as public routes on websites like ridewithgps and mapmyride.
You just need to search for the relevant route which can then be exported as a GPX file for display on a GPS device.

Re: Atlantic to the Med along the Pyrenees, Spanish side, Qs

31 January 2015 - 7:45am
Fabulous. We have done chunks of this but very little in the east. Camping is an option where we have been but that partially focused on the fabulous Ordesa y Monte Perdido National Park. We've also camped in Jaca and then in maybe Anso when we were heading over the very stunning pass to Arette St Pierre Martin. Camping is less frequent than in France. You can camp at the coasts too of course but I don't know about the eastern half of the Pyrenees on the Spanish side. We found the spanish side hot, there were some strong prevailing winds in the evening (might have just been us being unlucky).

Some of the online maps show campsites.I've just checked my pocket earth and there are campsites marked .(there is also a cycle route marked). Not my favourite map though. I think wild camping would be very possible in the mountains, no idea if it is legal. Some of the vegetation is Mediterranean which offers less cover but I'm sure you would find something. There are also modestly priced hotels in the small towns. Camping is usually only open June to end August in some areas although I expect longer in the national,park and the coasts.

Sustrans routes GPS

31 January 2015 - 3:15am
Are Sustrans routes, including the Trans Pennine route for road bikes, available for GPS? The Sustrans website provides no information.


Re: Avenue Verte GPX route

31 January 2015 - 2:06am
I was surprised to find that in sussex the roads were overhung with trees for such long stretches. The gps couldn't keep up and I'd have to pause for a fix. Different route I'm afraid.

Re: Garmin Tour mapping

31 January 2015 - 1:35am
I have been really dissapointed with mine, the edge touring plus comes with open street map, and even if you put road only it decides very narrow or bad dirt tracks are roads apparently because open street map is contributed too.

It drives me insane such that I am going to get rid of it: You can plot a route to go down an A road and it will want you to go anywhere but on the A road it doesn't really recognise your route. I have tried all the different settings etc.. all I can say is the most disapointing unsuited gps I have ever bought, my phone with co-pilot does a far better job!

great for showing a track across a wood but actually following a route that is on a road that you specified I am pretty sure if I tried to get it to navigate to the end of my road it would try and take me through the neighbors gardens rather than go on an actual road.

sorry to be so negative, but the worst money I have ever spent.

Ohh and I just fired off another support request to Garmin so I will see what amusing thing they want me to do now, reinstall my PC most likely.

Re: Garmin Tour mapping

31 January 2015 - 1:18am
Personally I wouldn't dream of handing over navigation decisions to any Garmin (or any other make).
I'm not familiar with Edge models, but I would expect them to produce more or less "efficient" routes, minimising this, avoiding those - but if you want to go a mile out of the direct line to see something you are going to have to enter that location as a waypoint - which implies that you are going to have to research and plan your journey yourself, and use something like Basecamp to prepare a gpx file of the track. Tracks are not interactive. They are simply lines drawn on a map. A gps will show you the line, and show you your position. It remains your responsibility to follow that line. And in my opinion that is by far the be3st to use these devices.
Having said that, my GPS62s came with a Navigator map as standard. If I was trying to find my way to an address in a strange city I would unhesitatingly select that map and give the machine its head. It would undoubtedly find the place and guide me round any one way systems along the way. Urban use is where they can be excellent. Outside that, when I am the motive power, I require more control.
Come on. Preparation is the best bit, isn't it?

As for unexpected developments etc. I guess, at a pinch, I might try the routing function to reach the days destination, but to be honest, I usually try to have some sort of paper map to hand and I would prefer to use that for strategic navigation, letting the gps dot the i's and cross the t's.

Re: Experience of La Vélodyssée/ Eurovelo 1

31 January 2015 - 12:52am
Thanks for the link from me too Beekeeper. I do dip into CGOB from time to time, but had managed not to find your account. We'll be doing an extremely leisurely trip from Bayonne to La Rochelle, just for the sake of the peace and quiet, the birds, the flowers - and the boulangeries
Sounds as if I won't be needing that single wheel trailer after all

A suggestion for you: I noticed your comment about the problems of reversing a track. I have found that one way to cope with this is to use Google Earth Streetview. Half an hours virtual exploration should be enough to sort out any urban one way system. Whether you then modify the gpx or make notes on a card is entirely a matter of choice. HTH


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