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Re: Lon Las Cymru to Taunton

29 August 2014 - 2:44pm
If you skip Anglesey then you would not have ridden the Lon Las just a section of it.
You can skip Cardiff or Chepstow as there is a choice there.

Anglesey is the nice easy flat bit to warm up ready for the hills.

Lon Las Cymru to Taunton

29 August 2014 - 2:31pm
At the start of planning a trip for next year, I'm hoping to do the Lon Las Cymru route through Chepstow and then on to home in Taunton. I have a few questions about route, but my first is - is Anglesey worth it? Or would I be better served by my time by hopping out the train early at Llanfairpwll railway station and save myself a bit of time/cycling distance?

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 2:24pm
andrew_s wrote:Ortlieb reckon that the Plus material is tougher than the Classic - similar tear resistance (in between the two different Classic fabrics), and does quite a lot better on the abrasion resistance test.
This article on crazyguyonabike gives a good rundown on the differences by a fabric technologist, and Plus comes out best there too.

Either are plenty durable enough, and it's easy to permanantly repair minor damage with Ortleib's kits, generic products like TearAid or Tenacious Tape, or glueless puncture patches such as Park.

Interesting. I guess I just assumed as they're more rigid, they're tougher. And yes to the Park patches, that's what I've used to repair mine.

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 2:20pm
You might also consider the Back Roller City. I know it has “City” in the name, but nothing’s preventing you taking it out of the city. And in fact, it seems to have some advantages, depending on your viewpoint: cheaper, lighter, no unnecessary pockets or straps, but with the usual Ortlieb quality and waterproofness.

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 1:54pm
Folks, thanks very much for your insights and suggestions and pointing out the pros and cons for each type.

Not quite decided but I think I'll probably go for the Bike Packer Classic.
Interestingly, Evans have a sale on so the price difference between the options is not always high.

http://www.evanscycles.com/categories/a ... f/ortlieb#!

Thanks again, everyone.
Doug

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 1:47pm
Dudley Manlove wrote:The plus material is lighter than the classic, but maybe not as durable.
Ortlieb reckon that the Plus material is tougher than the Classic - similar tear resistance (in between the two different Classic fabrics), and does quite a lot better on the abrasion resistance test.
This article on crazyguyonabike gives a good rundown on the differences by a fabric technologist, and Plus comes out best there too.

Either are plenty durable enough, and it's easy to permanantly repair minor damage with Ortleib's kits, generic products like TearAid or Tenacious Tape, or glueless puncture patches such as Park.

User of Front Rollers with riveted rails and fittings and non-insert hooks, currently failing to get around to getting some Plus replacements.

Re: Do I need front panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 9:32am
One big drawback with front panniers is the damping effect when you are tired and going up hills heavily laden in bottom gear. The weight on the front damps the natural side to side turns - you get wobbles and use up even more energy trying to keep the bike going straight. High tyre pressure helps a bit (less resistance to turning). Next trip I do will be without them.
On fast easy terrain they are no prob at all and a damping effect is useful.

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 8:59am
Bike-packer classics for me (actually I think my front panniers are sport packer classics, but pretty much the same thing just smaller). I often tuck a top/waterproof under the lid of my rear panniers, easy to get to in a hurry and no need to open up the main body of the pack.

Re: Best Ortlieb Rear Panniers for touring?

29 August 2014 - 6:11am


I am a Bike-Packer Plus user, actually have four of them, having started out on Rollers. I wouldn't go back now.

The full set in use ....



Andrew

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