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Re: Berlin to Copenhagen

9 October 2014 - 12:40pm
There is a self-guided option along this route organised by a German company, but sold via a UK one...

http://wheel2wheelholidays.com/tours/berlin-to-copenhagen

It includes luggage transfers, maps etc and bike hire (normally Kalkhoff hybrid type) in the price.

Re: Berlin to Copenhagen

9 October 2014 - 12:26pm
We did the route in May/June 2014, as part of a longer trip starting from Prague. (Full trip: ferry Harwich to Hook of Holland, cycle to Amsterdam, overnight train to Prague, cycle to Copenhagen, train to Esbjerg, now-defunct ferry Esbjerg to Harwich.) We stayed in hotels, pensions and hostels, all of which were booked in advance. We were in Germany around their Ascension day holiday, and would definitely have had problems then if we hadn't booked in advance. We book in advance anyway, because of time constraints and preferring to know that we have somewhere to stay, but I think it would be possible to do this by booking one or two days ahead as you go. There is wi-fi most everywhere, so you wouldn't have to make phone calls in German or Danish.

Denmark is an expensive country for accommodation and for eating out.

As everyone else has said, the surfaces are mostly good, some spectacularly so, long stretches of dedicated tarmac through German forests. Other times there is a good quality compacted surface, fine on a touring bike (or Brompton), but occasionally deep sand and rutted cart tracks. Where we met these we diverted by road. Actually in Denmark we just took the roads anyway, the traffic is very light.

Photos from the whole trip are here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/monxton/sets/72157644784653308/
Our tracks are all on Strava, and are public. The final leg is here: http://www.strava.com/activities/149388450, you can probably navigate to the others from there.

Useful resources:
HTH

Re: Consent from the Missus

9 October 2014 - 9:27am
Mick F wrote:We don't need "permission" to do anything. Neither of us! We need agreement, not permission.

Marriage - or any other partnership - needs agreement for both/all partners to do anything. What's the problem?

Shhh, don't spoil the illusion. That's meant to be a secret.

'Speshly to the young folks who like to blog/tweet/poke* about their problems publicly rather than talk about them.





*Obv, forums are completely different...

Re: Berlin to Copenhagen

9 October 2014 - 7:43am
I also went in 2008, in July (and spent 7 days cycling). I stayed in B&Bs/hotels, which I'd booked in advance, though I think I could have got away without doing so (except in the big cities): places were generally fairly quiet, esp. in the German section. I agree with the previous poster about the surfaces: they're generally good, but there are some rough sections, esp. on the forest tracks. I was on 28mm tyres, and just about managed (but one of my rims did collapse just before CPH -- perhaps a coincidence, but...).

(I stayed at this place south of CPH: recommended, if you want to give yourself an almost-at-the-end treat: http://www.roedvigkro.dk/)

Re: Berlin to Copenhagen

9 October 2014 - 6:13am
2008, in the Autumn. Stayed in B and Bs and hotels. There were some unpaved sections and some very sandy in Germany. Also some lage concrete slab areas. Bromptons a bad idea for some of the German bit.

Re: First tour in France after 50yrs together:o)

8 October 2014 - 9:23pm
Sounds like a great trip. Did you find accommodation expensive ?

Re: Spain trip

8 October 2014 - 9:15pm
> Start with looking at http://www.PedalPortugal.com for campsites in Portugal
> In September 2014 two of us cycle-camped Santiago de Compostela to Lisbon well away from the coast- finding campsites was not straight forward. Camping fees were modest indeed and site quality varied from acceptable to very good. As mentioned earlier, campsites are not signed very well, or even not at all.
> I hope you like hills?
> and good luck with navigation - there are roads not shown on maps or GPS and in some cases roads on maps that have yet to be built

Re: Consent from the Missus

8 October 2014 - 8:08pm
Married people are odd!

My folks would stock the fridge for a couple of weeks, leave money on the side and then jet off abroad.
Mind you, it was the 70s. The rule was Don't answer the door, go to school and don't kill each others

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

8 October 2014 - 7:36pm
I suppose we could go wild camping.

It looks like we'd start our tour around July 18 or 19th. 8 Days of riding would put us in the Bullith Wells area (where the Fair takes place) around the 24th? Does have me a little worried at this stage, so may move things to the middle two weeks instead to play it safe?

Also - anyone ridden the NCN 4? Thinking of riding it from Cardiff to London (3 days) or the vicinity -wherever my mate is living these days. Was wondering if its worth it or if we should just take a train back.

Laureen's ride - Cheshire

8 October 2014 - 7:16pm
Just stumbled upon this way marked route - I live in W Wales but visiting my rels who still live here.
It's a bridleway of ~ 56km about half off road I'd guess.
I'm after a .gpx file if there's one out there - can't see anyone's uploaded it to mapmyride or view ranger,
nor on a googhly search.

http://northcheshireriders.webs.com/laureensride.htm

Amusingly the horsey types include a photo of cyclists struggling with p*nctures...

Re: Consent from the Missus

8 October 2014 - 6:49pm
I am very fortunate

We have always had a leave difference, where I have a week more

Our "bargain" is that if we need things doing then this is done, but otherwise I have a week to tour.

Trouble is that this is in March which has seen two tours abandoned by blizzards, and others in shorts and a t shirt!


PS I have never ever, and would not dream of bribing the Mother in law to babysit the double glazing / builders whilst I go off on the bike!

Re: Berlin to Copenhagen

8 October 2014 - 6:12pm
Thanks for replies. My questions are

- what time of year did you make the trip?
- what accommodation did you use?
- did you book accommodation in advance or were you able to find some on the day?
- how long did you take over the trip?
- how rough were the unpaved sections (we are planning to make the trip on Bromptons)?

I have the German guide book but my German is not good!

Re: Consent from the Missus

8 October 2014 - 5:03pm
What do you need permission for?
We are happily married, and have been for 41 years this November.
We don't need "permission" to do anything. Neither of us! We need agreement, not permission.

Marriage - or any other partnership - needs agreement for both/all partners to do anything. What's the problem?

10 ways for hypothetical, imaginary (but reassuringly gender

8 October 2014 - 4:41pm
Bicycler wrote:Penfolds11 wrote:MrsHJ hits the nail on the head when she writes that both parties need permission for away trips. I can understand that the original blog may have been tongue-in-cheek, yet it perpetuates stereotypical sexism unless "the other side" is shown. It would have been a stronger piece had there been "Five Ways for Him and Five Ways for Her" instead of "Ten Ways for Him".
5 for him and 5 for her would be just as open to those same accusations of perpetuating stereotypical sexism. What might really be needed is "ten ways for hypothetical and imaginary (but reassuringly gender-neutral) humanoids..."

Much better

"ten ways for hypothetical and imaginary (but reassuringly gender-neutral) humanoids..."


Thank you all for the interesting comments. Always appreciated.

Re: Spain trip

8 October 2014 - 3:59pm
I rode Cape St Vincent in Portugal to N. Cape recently. I wild camped most of the time, finding spots to camp in Portugal and Spain was quite hard as a lot of the land is fenced off and there are many signs indicating that land is private. Getting out of sight is pretty important for security reasons. I succeeded in finding spots to camp every day but this often involved riding much further than I wanted to. There are very few campsites away from the coast and they are often difficult to find as there are few signs to advertise their location ( I asked about this and was told it was because of officialdom). The sites cost about 8-10 euros a night , pitches were poor and the sites can be very noisy especially at weekends and festivals.

NL

Re: Consent from the Missus

8 October 2014 - 2:53pm
Penfolds11 wrote:MrsHJ hits the nail on the head when she writes that both parties need permission for away trips. I can understand that the original blog may have been tongue-in-cheek, yet it perpetuates stereotypical sexism unless "the other side" is shown. It would have been a stronger piece had there been "Five Ways for Him and Five Ways for Her" instead of "Ten Ways for Him".
5 for him and 5 for her would be just as open to those same accusations of perpetuating stereotypical sexism. What might really be needed is "ten ways for hypothetical and imaginary (but reassuringly gender-neutral) humanoids..."

Much better

Re: Show your touring bikes !!!!

8 October 2014 - 2:07pm
This Monday, amazingly missed all the rain (though not all the beech nuts!)
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Re: Consent from the Missus

8 October 2014 - 9:41am
I was wondering if there will be a corresponding blogpost showing what is needed to ensure a "permission slip' from "the mister" when "the missus" wants a weekend away with the girls. However, talking to my friends it seems we're all just grateful for a weekend of peace and quiet...

MrsHJ hits the nail on the head when she writes that both parties need permission for away trips. I can understand that the original blog may have been tongue-in-cheek, yet it perpetuates stereotypical sexism unless "the other side" is shown. It would have been a stronger piece had there been "Five Ways for Him and Five Ways for Her" instead of "Ten Ways for Him". Then again, the blog is called Faraway Visions rather than Realistic Views.

And as I work from home, I already provide options 1, 2, and 3 as a matter of course anyway.

Re: How to train for long distance cycle touring

8 October 2014 - 7:00am
Tom Allen, a very nice guy as are most long distance tourers I've met! His words were very inspirational to me when I was planning my current trip. I was getting bogged down in planning until I read his website.

Gary
www.longbikeride.co.uk

Re: touring tyres help

8 October 2014 - 6:52am
I can vouch for the marathon Supremes on the road over 7,500 miles and still going strong.
Good and bad really as I've carried spares that far without needing them. Quite a bit of weight to not be used for so long!

Gary
www.longbikeride.co.uk

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