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Re: Bordeaux to Narbonne

30 January 2015 - 10:54pm
Last year we rode a stretch from Bordeaux to the med - although we avoided Narbonne we got as far as Lezignan-Corbieres which is quite close by.

The Canal de Garonne from Bordeaux to Toulouse is easily rideable although the outskirts of Toulouse are a bit confusing. A good map will make it easier but isn't essential.

The Midi from Toulouse to, I believe, Lauragais is rideable (tarmac) but we only went as far as Gardouch maybe 10km before Lauragais. It was suitable for 28c slicks and not at all lumpy. After that things take a turn for the worse. It will be slow going and uncomfortable even with wide tyres, especially with a touring load. You'll make much better progress on the roads IME.

If you're interested we covered it on days 1-11 of our Crazyguyblog: https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?o=1&doc_id=14010

The region is great for cycling and you'll have a fantastic time. The camping municipal at Carcassonne is definitely worth a visit!

Holland

30 January 2015 - 8:42pm
Can anybody recommend any good 1 day circular rides near Amsterdam and vicinity ? Thanks.

Eurovelo 15

30 January 2015 - 7:50pm
Has anybody cycled the section from cologne to Arnhem? What's it like I.e. is it quite rural (apart from the obvious cities like cologne and Düsseldorf). The eurovelo website claims its the 'industrial heartland of Europe' .... Not much of an advert!

Re: Avenue Verte GPX route

30 January 2015 - 7:38pm
Hi Many Bikes,
Yup that's what I'll do. It's a good way to familiarise with the route anyhow. The charity ride will have around 50 riders and about 6 guides, a few of whom may have GPS and the rest the Sustrans guide so it would be good to be following the same route.

Cheers

Martin

Re: Avenue Verte GPX route

30 January 2015 - 7:14pm
The definitive one is the one you make up at home at leisure from the maps in the booklet. That is what I had to do.

Re: Touring Asia

30 January 2015 - 3:30pm
I agree, I spent about 3 weeks cycling in N of Guilin in Guangxi and it was some of the most interesting cycling I have done. Genuine minority people in traditional attire, not just for the tourists. Wonderful old wooden towns, but some serious hills made all the worse by the dreaded 'road under construction'.

When route planning one thing worth looking for is where a new motorway runs parallel with an old style highway. All the major traffic goes on the motorway and you have the old highway virtually to yourself. Still plenty of services and towns with accom, but no traffic. I rode for days on a couple of these across the south and from Kunming to Lao border.

Re: Bordeaux to Narbonne

30 January 2015 - 1:51pm
Hello Tina -

Annie and I cycle-camped from the UK to the Med last year, including the section you are asking about.

We kept a blog with references to the track and camp-sites, and if you want to have a look, the link is below.

We are sure you will have a great trip. Go for it!

Best wishes -

Brian & Annie

www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?o=Sh&doc_id=13782&v=Jc

Re: Bordeaux to Narbonne

30 January 2015 - 12:43pm
Great stuff thats all I really needed to know.
We plan to use the route as our main trip and camp up and make detours off to the side will be using tourers so can handle a bit of rough stuff just full kit would be too much if the route is too 'rustic'. Found some very 'rustic' sustrans routes in Norfolk a few years ago - barely passable on a loaded tourer.

Cheers,
Tina.

Re: Touring Asia

30 January 2015 - 12:22pm
simonhill wrote:My cycling in China has only been in the South, mainly Yunnan. I suspect the reason you can't find much about your route is that it is not a favoured area for cycling. The East coast and inland is the most densley populated, most industrial, etc, etc in China.

Most cyclist seem to prefer Chengdu and west, with Yunnan being a favourite. Others are coming or going to the Stans overland route and so are also more to the west.

Guangxi is nevertheless a mountainous further inland, with many famous landscapes, though Guilin to the north has more of this. Hunan also includes famous mountainous sights like Wulingyuan in the Wuling mountains. Hubei similarly has some mountains. Thus one can be travelling through attractive mountainous landscapes without going so deep inland, once you've got across the north China plain (eg Henan). And given the broad curve of the Chinese coastline going so far inland is a broadly direct cycling route from Beijing to the Vietnamese border. Though there will also be some flatter agricultural basins to cross, though you can limit this by bending a little further west.

Re: Touring Asia

30 January 2015 - 9:05am
Thanks

Jimmie

Re: Touring Asia

30 January 2015 - 5:53am
Sorry, I won't be home till April.

My cycling in China has only been in the South, mainly Yunnan. I suspect the reason you can't find much about your route is that it is not a favoured area for cycling. The East coast and inland is the most densley populated, most industrial, etc, etc in China.

Most cyclist seem to prefer Chengdu and west, with Yunnan being a favourite. Others are coming or going to the Stans overland route and so are also more to the west.

You may find more help on the LP site https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/ ... -your-bike
there are also country forums for specific non cycling questions. Try to ask specific questions rather than tell me all you know ones.

Taking your bike on the excellent trains in China is easy and cheap. Book bike in a day or two early as freight and its there when you get off your sleeper train.

The Lao to Chiang Mai route is good, I've ridden most of it over the years, but it is tough if you are going to ride it all. Where they say transfer (ie bus) these bits are often the hardest or most remote sections.

If you can get hold of very old LP book on cycling in SE Asia, there is a route profile of Hanoi to DBP just to give you an idea (don't buy, try library).

As I said, won't be able to have a chat but I am happy to try to answer any questions (within reason).

Re: Bordeaux to Narbonne

30 January 2015 - 5:37am
Hi Tina, I toured a lot of this last summer on my way to Africa, the route was pretty good, no problems other than some trees down after a storm. I'm sure they will be cleared now. Some of the route wouldn't be great on an out and out road bike but fine on any tourer.

The only bit I didn't ride was a detour I took toward Mazamet before heading back to Narbonne.

The route is wonderful.

Gary
www.longbikeride.co.uk

Re: Flying back to UK from Cape Town

30 January 2015 - 5:30am
Haven't booked yet Simonhill, not sure if virgin fly out of Cape Town. Will check when I'm on wifi. Thanks.

Gary
www.longbikeride.co.uk

Re: Flying back to UK from Cape Town

30 January 2015 - 5:21am
Might be a bit late now, but I was thinking as I was pedalling along yesterday....

Virgin are a bike friendly and PR happy airline. Is it worth approaching them with your dilemma. Tell them about your trip and ask if they can help you get home. You could agree to something like a photo and write up in their inflight mag.

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

29 January 2015 - 11:05pm
mcallaghan wrote:I think the only difference is that I extended down the cycle route through the forest at the southern most point...onto the 'Lon Las Cerfni' route.

Newborough forest is worth a detour and if you fancy a walk, Llanddwyn Island (the bit sticking out SW from the forest) is nice with great views of Snowdonia.

Re: Eurovelo route 15 - please comment on our plans!

29 January 2015 - 10:53pm
I'll be watching this post too. Thinking of flying to cologne, then rising north to Arnhem or further before getting ferry home as only have less than a week. Any advice re cycling out of the airport would be appreciated!

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

29 January 2015 - 9:51pm
Vorpal wrote:I haven't been to Conwy Castle, but often at places like that, it's okay to leave panniers with reception.

Yes, my bike has been locked up inside several castles. Just talk nicely to the staff. The hill near Conwy castle is ferocious!

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

29 January 2015 - 9:42pm
I think the only difference is that I extended down the cycle route through the forest at the southern most point...onto the 'Lon Las Cerfni' route.

Avenue Verte GPX route

29 January 2015 - 9:30pm
Hi All,

I'm helping to guide a charity ride this summer from London to Paris following the Avenue Verte. I've got a copy of the Sustrans Official Guide and I'm surprised that I can't find any reference to a definitive GPX route guide in the publication. Does anyone know of a GPX route which exactly mirrors the Sustrans Guide?

Cheers

Martin

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

29 January 2015 - 9:24pm
That track looks about the same as my one. It may miss out on some of the best bits, but it's the right length and takes in the real "essence" of Anglesey. You should enjoy it.

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