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Re: London to Paris - Dieppe camping

27 May 2015 - 8:18pm
Late arrival in france is not a problem i have arrived at campsites at two in the morning , There is always a way in for cyclists , Receptions are closed and you can pay the the next morning . I have arrived in Le Havre at four in the morning . once your out on the road and in the fresh air tiredness is of no concern . You could aim to spend the first night on the somme see some history on your trip .

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

27 May 2015 - 7:49pm
Also - trying to figure out when to book a taxi to the Manchester Airport. Everything I am reading suggests getting there 3-hours before your flight for an international flight? That seems an awful long time to me, especially given how in the US with our security they only request 2-hours before your flight. So should I am to get their for 8AM for an 11AM departure?

Re: Lon Las Cymru - 4 or 5 days

27 May 2015 - 7:30pm
The bridge was very much closed to all vehicles, pedestrians and bicycles when I was there two weeks ago . I don't know about the trains.

I went around the estuary along the busy trunk road. It added about an extra 8 miles. I'm not aware of any alternative route across.

On the other side of the estuary there's some very strange car convoy system in place along a 3-mile stretch of road. The section of road is open only to one direction of traffic at a time. A works van follows as an escort at the back of the convoy of vehicles. When the van reaches the end of the 3 mile stretch its then the turn of the convoy of vehicles going in the other direction. So on and so forth.

I ignored this and went on my merry way along the stretch of road getting strange looks from vehicles coming the other way. I couldn't see any roadworks in progress or any reason for this bizarre system to be in place. Perhaps I missed it!

Re: Lon Las Cymru - 4 or 5 days

27 May 2015 - 5:40pm
Oh - is that Pont Briwet bridge open to cyclists or did you take the detour (or train?). Nothing I can find online has any recent updates on the status of the bridge.

Re: Santander to Biarritz

27 May 2015 - 4:35pm
Completed this trip successfully. I wouldn't recommend it particularly, as the main section in Spain was on busy roads (marked as green routes on the Michelin maps) with cars and lorries zooming past ones' left ear'ole. Once in France you join the tail-end of the Velodyssey, so the route become more bike-friendly. The hills are numerous and although not too onerous, they become tiring for relatively unpracticed cyclists bearing heavy panniers. Some wonderful seaside places to stop although the weather was against us so we didn't get to play on the beaches. Next time I organise a group trip I'll stick to cycle routes.
Pleasant overnight ferry Plymouth to Santander
Great towns and seaside places to visit.
Good food and accommodation and good value in Spain, but a leap in prices in France.
Smooth 5 hour train journey Biarritz to Paris and Eurostar to London. Booking for bikes in advance is essential - we had to divide our small group between 2 trains even though I booked 3 months ahead.
Have fun,

Re: London to Paris - Dieppe camping

27 May 2015 - 4:03pm
Thanks for the advice, thats really helpful. I think you might be right, get on with it early on day 2 and have a good rest in the evening.

So pleased you mentioned lights, I definitely would have forgotten to bring them. Much appreciated!

Re: What do you do with your luggage if sightseeing?

27 May 2015 - 3:42pm
But it's quite natural to worry about one's belongings if they represent both a substantial financial investment and if you worry about what a predicament you'd be in without them (think: tent, spare clothes, washing kit etc. etc.). It's one thing to imagine that the risk of loss is exaggerated but quite another to say, OK then, I'll stop worrying!
I deal with the issue by taking everything seriously valuable to me (passport, cash, cards, camera, mini-tool and wetwipes!) on a belt and I put up with the down-side of looking like a Batman wannabee! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman's_utility_belt
That way, at least I know I've got everything with me that I'd need to get me out of a hole - let's face it, if the bike in its entirety goes, at least I can get a night's accommodation, food and get back home if I've got me passport and funds available.
When I'm in town and fancy a wander, if I can't park the bike-plus-luggage somewhere either locked way or at least overseen by say a cafe owner, I make a judgement call about the environs and sometimes resort to taking the luggage with me, which is why I use only three separate containers - 2 front rollers and a rack pack... which makes them just about portable. That's when I remember why Ortlieb provide those straps!

Re: North Sea Cycle Route

27 May 2015 - 3:41pm
syklist wrote:Do you mean Frederikshavn to Grenaa?

I think the OP intends starting in Hamburg, Frederikshavn is not a very good start point!

try this site http://www.northsea-cycle.com/ daveg

Re: What do you do with your luggage if sightseeing?

27 May 2015 - 3:38pm
Put a sign on saying "Back in 8 hours, please do not pinch".

Re: Tour of Switzerland

27 May 2015 - 3:29pm
cyclingovereurope wrote:JJF wrote:Switzerland has a network of cycle routes. I have used a few of them and found the signing very reliable.
Look at
I looked at it but i don't understand if those are all cycling route, only for cycles, or some of them are along the main roads

Where they follow main roads there is usually a cycle path/lane but most of the 'main' roads have very little traffic - most transit routes have motorways taking the bulk of motor traffic but even the passes have, for the most part, got wide carriageways so its rare to come into too much traffic conflict outside of the cities. Even there I've found navigation in the cities very easy (I've ridden through Basel, Bern, Zurich, Lucerne etc), signposting excellent and they easily take you in and out of the towns. One thing I have noticed is that there isn't a lot of bike parking anywhere, they don't seem to be bothered where you park in general.

Re: Shetland

27 May 2015 - 3:12pm
hopefully one day

Re: Five Pits Trail, Derbyshire

27 May 2015 - 3:10pm
ferdinand wrote:
One point is that it is all hillier round here than people think; if I go to Chesterfield net descent is 500ft.


its nearly that much for me and I'm only five miles away!

Re: What do you do with your luggage if sightseeing?

27 May 2015 - 3:08pm
Ron wrote:I think there is a lot of unjustified concern regarding fear of theft while touring


Re: London to Paris - Dieppe camping

27 May 2015 - 2:46pm
The ferry has seats which can be used for snoozing too. There's a time difference but its still not a particularly long crossing.
If you arrive at 4am you could reckon to finish cycling earlier to catch up on sleep.
Don't forget bike lights as the voie verte is unlit.

If you arrive at 10.30pm I'd be inclined to book a motel / chambre in Dieppe and start fresh the next day.

There is a campsite at Les Deux Riviere 8km beyond Dieppe but its a small low key affair. Their are other campsites closer to Dieppe (eg La Source ) but you'd need to contact them to arrange a late arrival.

London to Paris - Dieppe camping

27 May 2015 - 1:53pm
Hello. A group of us are looking to ride from London to Paris over 3 days. After reading a lot of the advice on here we have decided to take the Newhaven -> Dieppe route.

The issue we are having is that the ferries are already booked up and the only options left either get in to Dieppe at 4:00am or 10:30pm! This doesn't give us much time for sleeping.

I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem? Has anyone found a campsite that will let us pitch up at 11-11:30pm? If anyone has taken the 11pm-4am ferry, was there much opportunity to get sleep on journey (no cabins available)?

Any advice would be much appreciated as I'm new to touring.

Re: A long shot - Genesis Longitude

27 May 2015 - 1:04pm
The width of the rims is 35mm. You simply aren't going to fit a 35-38mm tyre on there

Re: travel insurance?

27 May 2015 - 1:00pm
I'm also looking for insurance.

Check out these guys


Able to insure 6 month cycle trip to Europe for £115. I think that's very reasonable. Include personal accident and liability.

Activity equipment is only up to £400, so may not be worth it for a valuable bike. But for all other things like valuables and baggage it seems alright.

Re: A long shot - Genesis Longitude

27 May 2015 - 12:39pm
I have the putty gray frameset running 47 x 622 landcruisers but that's on 19mm rims. I'm not sure that you could put narrow tyres on the wide rims that come with the complete bike, maybe someone more technically expert can answer that for you. Just out of interest, why do you want to, there are loads of bikes that take tyres that size, the longitude is clearly made for lovely big soft rubber. I got mine so that I can fit the biggest Big Apples with full mud guards, I just haven't got round to buying any yet.

Re: Lightweight packable trousers - recommendations please

27 May 2015 - 12:34pm
thirdcrank wrote:If you do make it to TKmaxx, keep your mind firmly on what you went in for. You may otherwise come out with all sorts you didn't know you needed till you saw it in there at a bargain price. (I have a pair of Ventile trousers original price £300, to me £10.)
If it's anything like the branches I've seen, you'll need to keep mind firmly on what you went in for because it's like a jumble sale as a shop... They do occasionally have interesting bike tools and clothing but I rarely suggest them because you can't count on any particular item being in stock or in the same part of the shop from day to day.

Re: Crossing the river Rance St Malo

27 May 2015 - 12:24pm
I used it to come the other way last July. Seemed fine to me.Tide was a long way out, but the sloping slipway still allowed us to load and unload without removing panniers. Just wheeled the bikes on,don't remember any lifting. Nice road out to Dinan and although I didn't get much of a look round Dinard, it looked really impressive with some wonderful Victorian? architecture.


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