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Re: Cable lock in hand baggage?

5 March 2015 - 1:01am
Some feedback to share and as thanks for everyones contributions:

Pedals in hand luggage were fine. Thermos was queried in one airport but allowed. Tent (Ti) pegs spotted and (understandably) threatened with expulsion. It was my mistake, having forgot that they were wrapped in the tent inner (desperate last minute attempt to shed checked-in luggage), but I pleaded with security and they let me through. One security guy got upset by inner tubes!

In short, its a frustrating lottery! Dependent upon geo-politics, date/time of travel (busy/empty, staffing etc), airport, staff training/experience/mood, plane (cargo capacity), passenger/cargo payload, route, destination, airline, luck, etc

Re: Is there a Round Britain route info thread?

5 March 2015 - 12:20am
Possibly this year. I'm not good at organising a definite date but before the children break up for school and I want to do the south coast-LE-Bristol-London leg first. Then I'll start the London- Bristol-Cardiff and Wales leg later. That is as far as my planning has got.No date to start as it depends on a couple of things I need to complete to free up time.

Re: panniers panniers panniers???

5 March 2015 - 12:16am
Ortleib rollers for me. Bought a new set two years ago after my previous were taken from the garage. I wouldn't be without them. I also use nautical dry bags inside which come in various litre sizes and are completely dry on the top of the rack.http://www.over-board.co.uk/dry-bags.html

Re: Has anyone cycled EuroveloR1 all the way to St Petersber

4 March 2015 - 8:24pm
No direct experience but seem to remember reading some bad stuff about Russian roads and drivers.

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

4 March 2015 - 6:47pm
As for food, it is expensive. However, local produce that cannot be exported can be really cheap. I lived on smoked salmon offcuts (left over from filleting) and ripe strawberries! Avoid buying alcohol, bring in a bottle of duty-free scotch for instant Norwegian friends at campsites...

Re: Turkey april2015

4 March 2015 - 3:23pm
pal wrote:Just in case you were wondering, Muslims in Tromso (there are some), which will have no sunset during this year's Ramadan, observe fast using the sunrise/sunset times in Mecca, thus finding a way of being permitted to eat. But probably there are many Muslims in places not quite so extremely north, eg Britain, who will be trying to fast for 18 hours or so per day.

Funnily enough, I was wondering about that (that is: how Norwegian Muslims cope with midsummer Ramadan) just the other day! Thanks for solving the mystery...
Another great source for information.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/

Re: Turkey april2015

4 March 2015 - 2:19pm
Just in case you were wondering, Muslims in Tromso (there are some), which will have no sunset during this year's Ramadan, observe fast using the sunrise/sunset times in Mecca, thus finding a way of being permitted to eat. But probably there are many Muslims in places not quite so extremely north, eg Britain, who will be trying to fast for 18 hours or so per day.

Funnily enough, I was wondering about that (that is: how Norwegian Muslims cope with midsummer Ramadan) just the other day! Thanks for solving the mystery...

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

4 March 2015 - 12:42pm
One of the previous threads includes a link to this site https://weatherspark.com/averages/28849 ... der-Norway
which is useful for understanding possible weather conditions.

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

4 March 2015 - 11:25am
Just so you know. These charts show both the long term average weather and what actually happened last year.
http://www.yr.no/sted/Norge/Vest-Agder/ ... stikk.html
http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Rogaland/ ... stics.html
http://www.yr.no/sted/Norge/Hordaland/B ... stikk.html
So the averages are fairly dismal even by the standards of Scotland, but the extremes are more extreme than Scotland. It can be really rather cold and wet, but also from time to time really very hot, which is mostly likely to happen in July. Summer can sometimes start to slip away quickly in late August.

Re: Turkey april2015

4 March 2015 - 11:15am
This year Ramadan starts on June 18th, though it can be the 19th or even 20th since religious authorities refuse to rely on calculations and require visual confirmation which can be impeded by clouds, glare of the sun, etc - it's particularly tricky trying to spot the new moon the instant it occurs because it is very close to the sun in the sky and moonset is very close to sunset at this phase. It will last until 16 July, ish. So you have potentially got a couple of months or so to get out of the place before Ramadan comes along.

Just in case you were wondering, Muslims in Tromso (there are some), which will have no sunset during this year's Ramadan, observe fast using the sunrise/sunset times in Mecca, thus finding a way of being permitted to eat. But probably there are many Muslims in places not quite so extremely north, eg Britain, who will be trying to fast for 18 hours or so per day.

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

4 March 2015 - 10:51am
When I did it I used an excellent guide system by Castor, a Norwegian company, that was made of laminated maps of the route and showed all the campsites, roads, shops, etc. It made the whole thing much easier, the maps were laminated and designed to fit into a bar bag map case. I'll see if I still have our and you can have it for a tenner, I was thinking of doing the route again but probably never will do shan't need it. Send me PM.
It's an excellent route by the way, quiet roads and very scenic.

Re: Garmin eTrex help needed

4 March 2015 - 9:40am
shane wrote:Best thing to do would be to combine a few of the days(turn 2 days into 1 track) so that you get under the 20.

You'll probably have to filter these new tracks too to get them under the 500 track points otherwise they won't load (you get a warning track/route truncated)
Will definitely work.

Limiting the waypoints on any route causes turns to be "shortcutted" and straight lines drawn between road curves. Generally this isn't a problem and you soon get used to it. But how many turns/curves etc can you have before the shortcuts start merging into each other and following the route becomes difficult? I've made plenty of 60 mile + UK based routes (lots of turns and curved roads etc) and they've been OK and I think it could be pushed to 80 miles +.
Has anyone any experience of this?

I've also been thinking about how to load more routes/tracks mid trip. I'm thinking of taking a little Windows Netbook on my next trip so the problem is solved. But it's another thing to take which adds weight, bulk, is delicate, needs charging etc etc, and it's not justifying it's use for anything other than uploading tracks onto my HCx, especially as I have an android tablet which does everything I need already. It's such a shame Garmin never produced the Androd version of Basecamp it kept promising to do! Nor is there any other suitable Android based software that does the same thing - unless someone knows different?

LollyKat wrote:Have a look at the Aukadia website - it has lots of useful pages with tips for using older Garmins as well as current ones.

You could start here, with Three ways to beat the Waypoint limit. It's worth exploring the site thoroughly, even though it is quite demanding on the old grey cells!
Many thanks for the heads up on that site - will be very useful.
I'm interested in the waypoint reduction techniques shown there and will try them. Currently I use GPSies waypoint reduction feature within Convert section, and find it very straightforward. What methods does anyone else use, and how do the results, ease of use etc, compare with GPSies method?

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

4 March 2015 - 8:06am
Norway is a nice place to cycle. Drivers are generally considerate of cyclists. Cycle paths are better than in the UK, but not as good as in Denmark. Most of your route has cycle paths, but there are likely to be some places where you will prefer the road. There also some places along your route where cycling on the road is banned. Local cyclists will usually know a good alternative, and most people speak English well.

Things to watch out for in Norway... on the west coast, it's really just weather. Although the weather can be really nice, the west coast is fairly wet and can get some heavy driving rain and high winds; the kind where drivers have to pull over because they just can't see well enough to continue.

There are large wild animals in Norway, but you are unlikely to encounter them.

Wild camping is legal as long as you are at least 150 metres from a dwelling, and do not camp on cultivated land. However, on your route, you may have to go some ways inland in places. The coast tends to be either built up, or impossible to build on. There are some organised campgrounds along the coast.

There are some previous threads about Norway.
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=82513
And food in Norway
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=86142

You can find lots more with a search of the forum.

Re: panniers panniers panniers???

4 March 2015 - 7:50am
My new roller pluses leaked a little water/moisture when riding all day in torrential rain in NZ. Seemed the water creeps in via wicking along the seam which is sown in to the roller bar thinghy? At the time I was travelling with 2 very experienced round-the-world tourers and they both had the same problem and had met others who reported this elsewhere in torrential rain.

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

4 March 2015 - 2:20am
I did part of this a decade ago. Back then, the route was a bit frustrating in that it felt like cycle-to-school routes stuck together and it was a bit hard to follow. That was then though, and probably just my lack of preparedness.

But, reaching Stavanger (by train) we took a ferry from Stavanger harbour up the Lysefjord to Lysebotn (2 or 3 hours if memory is correct). The fjord was magnificent. We set up camp at Lysebotn (campsite) and cycled up the remarkable mountain road, see pic. At the top there's a fine plateau walk with a famous boulder to see (jammed between two cliffs, people stand on it for daring photo op). Ferry back to Stavanger next day. Highly recommended if you have time in your plan.photo-21.png

Re your question 5, 10 years ago there was a supermarket in Stavanger and campsite pretty central. Fine campsites in Mendal and Kristiansand too. Can't remember the other places.

North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

4 March 2015 - 1:55am
Hi!

This summer I'm planning a trip up through Europe, and the last leg will be going along the North Sea Route in Norway, from Kristiansand to Bergen. Here's a picture of the planned route:

5 - Norway Lower Quality.jpg

I just had a few questions for people who have done parts of this route:

1 Are there any important/dangerous things I should be careful about in these parts of Norway?
For example, weather: like the Mistral in France, or the heat in central Spain or dangerous wildlife? I really don't know much about Norway, but am super excited to see some of it! Just want to make sure we survive.

2. Are there good bike paths along the route? And is Norway generally considered bike-friendly?
I assume there are decent biking roads, as this is a pretty well known route, but wanted to check. Again, I don't know much about Norway, are drivers usually considerate of bikers there?

3. Are there many campgrounds around? And is wild camping acceptable there?
I have the West Castor North Sea Route 2 maps which show some campgrounds, but not that many. Do you have any particular resources you have used to find campsites before?

4. It sounds like the ferry from Stavanger to Skudeneshavn has stopped operating, is there a good alternative for cyclists?
It looks like there's a road onto one of the islands near Stavanger which then leads to a ferry going towards Bokn, but it looks like a major road that wouldn't be bike-friendly. If anyone has done this part of the route recently, how did you get across?

5. Are there places to get relatively cheap food in Norway?
I've heard that it's a fairly expensive country, so I was wondering what tips you had for eating cheap there?

6. Any advice on the route?
I can't really change the areas we'll be biking, but if there are specific places somewhat along the way that you have found that are particularly spectacular or interesting in some way (unique culture or scenery for ex.), I would love to hear about them!

Thanks for any and all help you can give!

Re: Fitting a Blackburn Lowrider on a Surly Disk Trucker

4 March 2015 - 1:31am
Thank you all for your help.
I have now fitted the Blackburn on to the Surly without too much trouble. So I'm looking forward to a summer of touring , first stop is the Isles of Man first week in June then we'll see where we end up. Many thanks again for all your help.

Graham

Re: Northern Germany and Denmark (Trier to Hirtshals)

4 March 2015 - 12:55am
Thanks for all the replies everyone! It sounds like this part of the trip will be a breeze!

I'll definitely get a Danish camping carnet, that sounds really useful!

Thanks so much for all your help!

Re: Warmshowers "membership" charges.

3 March 2015 - 9:23pm
There is some serious bickering going on on the WS site over this issue. The cost of making a member of the board a Consultant with a salary of $50k plus is not going down very well.

Re: People who have cycled the Pamir Highway...

3 March 2015 - 9:04pm
Please contact me about your trip.
I am one of 4 cyclists who will start from Bishkek at the end of May.
We cycle South to Dushanbe and then East to the Pamir Highway.
Perhaps take in the Wakhan valley.
Then North back to Bishkek.
We fly home ( UK and Australia ) 26th July.

We have done work on the route and milage.

If you find anyone who has done this route already please pass on their details.

Plenty of YouTube clips and information on Crazyguyonabike.

Matt

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