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Re: Wild camping in England ???

6 March 2015 - 8:56pm
Nareloc wrote:One of my wild camp nights on the Coast and Castles route. Like others have said, be discrete, arrive late and leave early, leave no trace, and definitely no fires!


Camping on beaches is a no go for me now. Too much done on the west coast of France resulting in a shot sleeping bag zip, lots of interrupted sleeps by the gendarmerie and I'm sure 'les dents' are shorter from chewing on so much sand...b

Re: Wild camping in England ???

6 March 2015 - 8:52pm
One of my wild camp nights on the Coast and Castles route. Like others have said, be discrete, arrive late and leave early, leave no trace, and definitely no fires!

Re: Sharing Garmin Maps between devices or using OSM

6 March 2015 - 8:43pm
revell217 wrote:There are a number of sites that offer free OS maps. I have a Garmin 810 edge and loaded maps from the following site, fully navigable.
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/05/down ... 00810.html

Step by step instructions are also on the site.

Have you used them for the US and Canada?

Re: Sharing Garmin Maps between devices or using OSM

6 March 2015 - 8:43pm
One thing that I forgot to mention is that I have already done my route planning on ridewithps and have created the TCX files, so I don't know if that makes things easier

Re: Weight distribution.

6 March 2015 - 6:17pm
Why is the bike swaying? Had a good opportunity the other night to observe my shadow from behind - no swaying even honking up hill. Am i to believe that not all bikes go in straight lines?

Re: North Antrim Coast Road any Advice

6 March 2015 - 6:04pm
Hi mick
It's a 2 lane A road with no cycle path or hard shoulder. August is busiest time with lots of tourist traffic and day trippers concentrating on the scenery. Sunday is particular busy. Not saying it's unsafe but not a ride to relax and enjoy the scenery. Problem is it's the only road so all traffic is funnelled onto it.

The North Antrim coast between Ballycastle and Portrush is more scenic in my opinion (Giants Causeway etc) and there is a choice of quieter roads in that area. Alternative suggestion is to head west from Belfast, maybe the Belfast - Ballyshannon route and then turn North round lough Neagh or through the Sperrins to the North coast. Have a look at http://www.cycleni.com for routes and info.

Mick

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

6 March 2015 - 6:04pm
Paulatic wrote:I stand corrected, Hawick is only 100m when I look at the map. The Internet told me 180 but that is Hawick Mill obviously on the surrounding hills.
Have you any recommended cafes in Kelso, Alexander?

I don't know the cafe situation in Kelso, not been that far east very often,.

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

6 March 2015 - 4:32pm
I stand corrected, Hawick is only 100m when I look at the map. The Internet told me 180 but that is Hawick Mill obviously on the surrounding hills.
Have you any recommended cafes in Kelso, Alexander?

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

6 March 2015 - 4:26pm
Harestanes cafe might not be open for the season when you are going though.
But the one along the road at Woodside should be

If you go via St Boswells, there is another nice cafe at Lilliesleaf

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

6 March 2015 - 4:11pm
Thanks very much rualexander.... great to have a cafe tip-off too!

Re: Weight distribution.

6 March 2015 - 4:10pm
Yes, a trailer is heavier than racks. I wouldn't argue with that at all.
The thing is, weight isn't the issue.

With a trailer, the weight is on the trailer wheels and all you do is trundle it behind. Yes, it's slower up the hills, but on the flat you wouldn't know it was there, and downhill it gives you a push. You lose accelleration, and you have to give time and distance to your braking, but that would be the same no matter how you carried the weight.

Also, there's some science involved. When you ride a bike, there is a little swaying to and fro involved. If you carry the weight in panniers, that weight has to be swung to and fro too. This consumes energy. With a trailer, the bike still sways to and fro, but the weight is on the trailer, so less energy is consumed.

Read this:
http://www.carryfreedom.com/wp-content/ ... cience.pdf

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

6 March 2015 - 3:49pm
Paulatic wrote:How long it takes depends on how fast you cycle of course. It's not a hilly route but it is of course uphill from sea level to ~180m above.
My last time up that road it was a very strong headwind with very little shelter. It was March though so everything bare.

Not sure where the 180m altitude comes from? Hawick is around 100m and nowhere between Hawick and Berwick is any higher really.

Best route might be the B6461 from Berwick to Kelso, fairly straight and relatively gentle rolling road. From Kelso head for Roxburgh, then minor road to Nisbet, on to Ancrum, then minor road that follows the north side of the River Teviot all the way to Hawick, very nice roads.
Couple of cafes between Nisbet and Ancrum, one at Harestanes visitor centre and another just along the road at a garden centre.

Good chance of a headwind of some sort going between Berwick and Hawick though.

North Antrim Coast Road any Advice

6 March 2015 - 3:43pm
Hi all

Thinking of a week or so touring from Belfast up round the North Coast (think its sustrans rote 93).

I have some concerns that the route seems to be the A2 main road, has anyone any experience of how busy/safe it would be in terms of traffic.

Unforunately we need to go first week August, so potentially a busy week ?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated including places to visit/accomodation etc or route reccomendations.

Many thanks

Mick

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

6 March 2015 - 3:13pm
Good point beardy. I don't really know. I tend to think to myself i average at 15mph but then usually surprise myself - I guess a bit of a game where I think that's how quick I'll be and then am pleasantly surprised, rather than aiming higher and being disappointed! But I think yes, you're probably right, depending on how hilly it is, somewhere between 10 and 15 mph is probably realistic. So maths-wise my journey would work... just whether it would legs-wise...

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

6 March 2015 - 2:33pm
badams wrote:Hm, ok, thanks. It'll be April so not much better. I'm not a roadie by any means; will be loaded too, so probably ~15 mph av. Will think about it more. thanks very much!

Do you mean that you do 15mph average in Norfolk?

It varies with all the specific conditions but on the same rig I can average 15mph on the plains and that can often convert to an average of 10mph in the hills.

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

6 March 2015 - 2:19pm
Hm, ok, thanks. It'll be April so not much better. I'm not a roadie by any means; will be loaded too, so probably ~15 mph av. Will think about it more. thanks very much!

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

6 March 2015 - 2:09pm
How long it takes depends on how fast you cycle of course. It's not a hilly route but it is of course uphill from sea level to ~180m above.
My last time up that road it was a very strong headwind with very little shelter. It was March though so everything bare.

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

6 March 2015 - 1:40pm
Thank you Paulatic and thirdcrank. I take your point about the bordersishness of the Borders... hm.
Thanks Paulatic for the tip about the A road too... I did wonder if it might be ok. Seems less demanding incline-wise too. But do you think allowing 5 hours, it'd be doable? It'd mean leaving at 5am, admittedly.

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

6 March 2015 - 12:06pm
I've done it a couple of times albeit on Sundays. Roads are quiet, even that A road as I recall it. Coming up the B road through Swinton is an easy road, if it's not windy. To Kelso, then towards St Boswells and up to Hawick has been my route in the past.

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

6 March 2015 - 11:51am
For part of the way, you might consider the Tweed Cycle Route

http://www.cyclescottishborders.com/rou ... cle-route/

There is a reason why the Borders form the border and it's not because the terrain is easy.

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