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Re: Lightweight packable trousers - recommendations please

1 June 2015 - 7:13am
I'd recommend Peter Storm zip offs. Although the 10 month tour I just did I rarely unzipped them. Still in good condition and the only pair I took. For cycling in the day I had Endura shorts.

Regards,

Gary
www.longbikeride.co.uk

Re: Recommend me a pair of panniers.

1 June 2015 - 7:07am
I've just used my Ortliebs to cycle from the UK to Cape Town over 10 months and written a piece about my experience of using them here:

http://longbikeride.co.uk/travelling-an ... -panniers/

Regards,

Gary Hewitt-Long
www.longbikeride.co.uk

Re: Touring in Norway

31 May 2015 - 10:39pm
jakobpoffley wrote:Is there an online map of all the national cycle routes?

Yes, but... it's not really very good.

There's one here http://www.cyclingnorway.no/en/national-cycle-routes/ but the zoom capability is limited. It's alright if you have another map of Norway to look at alongside it, so you can see where stuff actually is.

Cycletourer's website has a really good summary of the information that is available http://www.cycletourer.co.uk/cycletouring/norway.shtml

jakobpoffley wrote:I'd probably do the Numedal route then as i think i will have plenty of time for the trip. Is it on roads or does it have tracks because i would prefer to stick to roads except for Rallarvegen? Would it be worth even going down the coast from Oslo a bit before heading north to Rallarvegen? If its not particularly great scenery then it's probably not worth it. Compared to the great, longs fjords that you will see in the west of Norway? I wouldn't say it's impressive. But Norway is a beautiful country with different aspects in different regions. If you go down to Horten (between Oslo, and Larvik, the beginning of the Numedal route), there are Viking burial mounds and a nice historic centre. http://midgardsenteret.no/en/

There are also lots of museums and things in Oslo http://www.visitoslo.com/en/

If things like that don't interest you, then, it's just pIeasant scenery. I recommend the Numedal route, because up the valley from Kongsberg to Geilo does have impressive scenery, and of a completely different sort than you will encounter on the western fjords. Getting there? It's mostly city between Oslo and Kongsberg, unless you do as you suggested and follow Oslofjord southward for a while. Mostly city has it's own interest, and it's not very much like it would be in the UK. But you have plenty of choice. And Google Earth works just fine for most roads in the south of Norway, so you can use that to see a little of what you might cycle through and past either way.

Re: Altura Ultralight Panniers

31 May 2015 - 10:28pm
Not sure if I should say this but Wiggle now have them for £49! So may be you can have an early birthday present after all!

car hire with bike rack - lisbon airport, portugal

31 May 2015 - 9:49pm
hello all
does anyone know of any car hire companies, operating out of lisbon airport, Portugal, who rent cars with a bike rack as an option?
thanks.

Re: Recommend me a pair of panniers.

31 May 2015 - 9:45pm
I like the traditional look of super c's but have read elsewhere on this forum of mounting issues with the tortec epic rack which is the one I use.

Re: Cycling in Paris from Gare du Nord to Montparnasse TGV

31 May 2015 - 9:41pm
We did this in the opposite direction last August. The route is a no-brainer: straight down Bd. Sebastopol, across Ile de la Cité onto the Bd. St-Michel and on until it intersects the Bd. Montparnasse, where you turn right and continue until you see the signs for the station. The nice thing is that bikes take the separate bus/taxi lane in the middle of the road, so you're protected from the worst of the traffic. Traffic lights at just about every intersdection.

It'll be a bit busier if you're not travelling in August, but should be fun all the same.

Oh, it's about 7 km and downhill false flat for the first 3 or 4. Wouldn't mind doing it again myself in either direction.

Re: Touring in Norway

31 May 2015 - 9:02pm
Vorpal wrote: There is also the National cycle route 4 to Bergen. I haven't used it, but check the link I put on Andrew's post or try Cycletourer's site.

Is there an online map of all the national cycle routes?

Vorpal wrote: There are a couple of different options. You can go northwest out of Oslo, either following national cycle route 4, you can go the same general direction on any road except the E16, say via Hønefoss, which is nice. I can recommend a couple of routes in that immediate area, but I have ridden there from Oslo. Or you can go west-southwest towards Asker and Drammen, and pick up the Numedal route. That's slightly longer, but I think it would be my choice.

I'd probably do the Numedal route then as i think i will have plenty of time for the trip. Is it on roads or does it have tracks because i would prefer to stick to roads except for Rallarvegen? Would it be worth even going down the coast from Oslo a bit before heading north to Rallarvegen? If its not particularly great scenery then it's probably not worth it.

Re: Recommend me a pair of panniers.

31 May 2015 - 8:57pm
pjclinch wrote:TrevA wrote:I have Ortliebs (back roller classics) and they are waterproof, but they have no internal or external pockets (apart from a tiny one at the back - bike side).

They've changed a little over the years, and now seem to sport internal pockets.
...
I would think the internal pockets can be retro fitted as well. Mine (18 months old) suffered from the bottom of an internal pocket breaking open - which I felt "poor" so ended-up calling Lyon Outdoor (the UK distributor) and they put a replacement pocket in the post (easy to fit yourself). They were very helpful so I would expect a call to buy some from them might work (they are a recognised "spare part" as I had to wait a week until they had more stock in).

I like my backroller classics, but have never had any others to compare them to so can't say best/better/same/worse. One thing I do like for my own general leisure use is that they roll down small when they have little in, but can expand significantly when I stop off and do some food shopping.

Ian

Re: Altura Ultralight Panniers

31 May 2015 - 8:29pm
I agree Elaine, I think they would be great for a weekend but can't bring myself to trust them for a month. I may buy another pair at some point, as i like them for a single pannier solution also.

Might put them on my birthday list, or wait for a sale..not sure their worth +£60

Re: Cycling in Paris from Gare du Nord to Montparnasse TGV

31 May 2015 - 8:24pm
I've ridden it the other way - no real issues (even in the traffic at 0900 on a Tuesday morning)... and even more interesting if you go via l'Etoile (Arc de Triomphe) and the big Blackpool tower-like thing!

Rob

Re: travel insurance?

31 May 2015 - 8:14pm
Yes the EHIC did cover the 79k euros. However I was sent a bill stating that if the gov didn't pay up they would expect me to pay. I don't know what circumstances the gov wouldn't and I don't want to find out but imo its odd to get a direct bill & letter in those circumstances so I guess our dear ol' government may not pay its bills.

As for being treated until you're better, well, good luck with that. I wasn't in a fit state to travel (sit up, feed myself, etc) for many months and certainly couldn't travel by myself for 18 months. A plane was the only way.

As for any help from the British Embassy - forget it. They're more interested in their G&T's than their countrymen. They weren't the slightest bit helpful & couldn't even be bothered to supply a list of translators. It was shocking, truly shocking.
It took direct intervention from my MP to get me into an NHS hospital as my postcode was 'wrong' - 20 refused to have me as I was going to be a huge drain on their budget.

When you're injured the last thing you need is further stress about money & getting home, etc

Re: travel insurance?

31 May 2015 - 7:32pm
Sorry to hear about your experience climo, glad all worked out well.

But why would you ever have to pay 79,000€ to the italian health service? Wouldn't the EHIC cover you?

Cycling in Paris from Gare du Nord to Montparnasse TGV

31 May 2015 - 7:24pm
I am looking at cycling in Paris from Gare du Nord to the Montparnasse TGV station by Brompton. Any tips, routes or map suggestions would be welcome.
Or should I just use the Metro?
Thanks
Frank

Re: Recommend me a pair of panniers.

31 May 2015 - 7:23pm
TrevA wrote:I have Ortliebs (back roller classics) and they are waterproof, but they have no internal or external pockets (apart from a tiny one at the back - bike side).

They've changed a little over the years, and now seem to sport internal pockets. You can get external pockets to retrofit, and I have these for a pair of Sport Packer Plus. It's a bit of a wrench using the supplied punch to make a hole in your pannier to mount them, but the mount seals it up okay and with suitably high levels of paranoia to get it in the right place it's not a problem. You can take the pocket on and off easily, which is nice, and you can get a water-bottle holster for the same fitting (dead handy on my 'bent tourer).

The more recent versions of the Bike Packer Plus have an external pocket in any case.

I like Orts in particular not because of the waterproofing (not that I'm complaining about it) but because I find their fittings easier to use and better designed/made than any others. I've also got some Alturas with R&K fittings, a Vau De backpack/pannier and used to have some Carradice ones for comparison, and the Orts are, IMHO, easily the best here.

TrevA wrote:Ortliebs are also prone to rubbing where you lean your bike against a wall and this can result in small holes which compromise the waterproofness.

Doctor Doctor, it hurts when I do this!
Then don't do that...

Pete.

Re: Recommend me a pair of panniers.

31 May 2015 - 7:10pm
Carradice Super Cs are the ones I use, I would not consider any others. Search the forum for previous threads on pannier choice maybe?

Re: Recommend me a pair of panniers.

31 May 2015 - 6:54pm
I have Ortliebs (back roller classics) and they are waterproof, but they have no internal or external pockets (apart from a tiny one at the back - bike side). So I end up fishing around in my pannier for my waterproof, long trousers, etc, unless I've been very organised and placed those items at the top.

My wife recently bought some Altura Dryliners, and used them on our recent Scottish tour (where we had plenty of rain!). They are also waterproof and have a useful side pocket (under the flap) for storing things that you might need during the day. I dare say if you dropped All of our panniers into a stream, then mine would prove to be more waterproof, but the Dry Liners can cope with day long rain. They have the Rixen Kaul fittings, which I find slightly easier to attach to the bike.

Ortliebs are also prone to rubbing where you lean your bike against a wall and this can result in small holes which compromise the waterproofness. I've had my Ortliebs for 6 years.

Ortlieb panniers: front roller city vs classic

31 May 2015 - 5:44pm
I'm investing in my first pair of decent front panniers to last me a long time and I'm a bit stuck. So far I have been riding with Back Roller Classics in yellow on the back and am happy with Ortliebs though have considered other brands and models too for the front but it looks like it will be Ortlieb all the way.

In fact I have already received a pair of black Front Roller City and they are sitting untouched in my house but I'm having second thoughts. Issues are weight, volume, visibility.. The lower weight and the price drew me to choose Cities. A pair of front cities is a whopping 380g lighter than a pair of classics, perhaps half of which can be explained by the absence of shoulder straps and pockets, the other half I'm not sure about - they are probably the same bag just with different fittings attached!? But the cities don't come in yellow, and I thought black would be best as it looks decent and low key not tacky like worn yellow but now I am thinking I want yellow, which is only available in classic, in order to be more visible. On the other hand, the only difference with the colours is the side visibility. From the back and front all ortlieb panniers look black in daylight - and the reflective panels are nice but if you're doing 95% of your riding in daylight that's where you should be concentrating your efforts on improving visibility (I am of the school that 0.0000001% less chance of an accident is worth it). Therefore if I want to be really visible, I should be putting all-yellow rain covers on my waterproof ortliebs! So their actual colour doesn't matter, yet I'd rather have fewer exterior items like covers to have to fidget with so perhaps the side colour of the pannier does matter. And so on..

Anyone ever tried putting a yellow rain cover on a dark Ortlieb? What about a dark rain cover on a bright Ortlieb to make yourself more low key? Or even reversible rain covers, high viz one side and camouflage the other (yes they exist - check Jandd)? Are rain covers a faff?

Also has anyone tried both City and Classic panniers (in either rear or front versions) to compare their actual capacities? I know both the front rollers have 25L stated, but I have heard that the Cities need to be rolled down properly 4 times before the fasteners which go down the side can lock, whereas the Classics can be rolled as few times as you like and the buckle still closed, so the Classics have a higher effective capacity. However, on the Cities sitting here in front of me, it appears I can still roll them just once or twice, and the fasteners still lock, so I don't get it, maybe they have made an incremental improvement?

Any other advantage to classics vs city than might be worth paying for ($$ and the 380g weight) ?

Re: travel insurance?

31 May 2015 - 4:29pm
One thing I don't quite understand about the EHIC card is that I can't appreciate why you should need private jets and the like to get you home for treatment outside the cover of the card. I would have expected whatever European country you are injured in to have treated you until such point as you can get back to the UK. So if your injuries are slow recovering to the point where you can travel then you spend longer being treated/recovering there. So if you can't afford a private jet, they can't turn you out on the street to suffer !!

I can see why somebody might have a strong preference to return home for treatment (where they can fully understand the language, have friends and family nearby, etc.) but from a medical perspective I thought the EHIC card should have covered getting you to a fit state to travel. Basically, you are in the same position as any resident of the country (subject to the constraints e.g. not visiting country for medical treatment, etc.).

Not that I'm suggesting travel insurance isn't worthwhile (I think it definitely is worthwhile), just that EHIC should cover a lot more than people seem to suggest. I can appreciate that there might be problems with "expectations) e.g. in France where many have "top-up" insurance to cover where treatments cost more than the state cover (or you have to find a hospital that will charge the state approved rate for the particular treatment).

Ian

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