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Re: Rhine-Moselle short tour, advice needed

24 June 2015 - 12:53pm
annido wrote:In case it's useful, this is a cycle tour going south towards Metz and Nancy.


http://alpregio.outdooractive.com/ar-mo ... ab=TourTab

Very helpful,thanks

Re: Rhine-Moselle short tour, advice needed

24 June 2015 - 12:46pm
In case it's useful, this is a cycle tour going south towards Metz and Nancy.


http://alpregio.outdooractive.com/ar-mo ... ab=TourTab

Re: Rhine-Moselle short tour, advice needed

24 June 2015 - 12:36pm
I've cycled in and around Luxembourg City before, the cycle paths and planned and signed routes are absolutely excellent. We went north rather than south though.

I'm basically doing a lot of online searching and prepared to be flexible.

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

24 June 2015 - 12:34pm
and using the powerful organ that is my brain... I recall where I saw said interview!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/activ ... month.html

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

24 June 2015 - 12:31pm
I read recently an interview with a big cheese at the OS that there is an commitment to continue to make paper maps available. Interestingly the cheese was of the female persuasion... and why not?!

Re: Rhine-Moselle short tour, advice needed

24 June 2015 - 12:23pm
Ben@Forest wrote:Have done Trier - Koblenz myself, mainly good cycle routes through vineyards and pretty flat though of course they don't lend themselves to speed, partly because of other slowish cyclists. This is no bad thing but if your six days includes the days flying to Bonn, train and flight back you may have the prospect of four longish days in the saddle. There are scores of places to stay in the small towns or bigger villages, whether hotels or B&Bs, but I couldn't name one of them now.

I'm heading over to that area next weekend and planning long days as I'll be on my own.

Day 1 Train from Frankfurt to Mainz then cycle to Koblenz

Day 2 Koblenz to Zell or do you recommend anywhere better in the area?

Day 3 Zell to Trier or is there anywhere better in the area ?

Day 4 Trier to Luxembourg City for lunch then Metz or there abouts

Day 5 Metz to South of Strasbourg

Day 6 South of Strasbourg to Basle

Day 7,8 then a half Day to get to Frankfurt airport might need the train if I run out of time

Would love any tips on this route,would rather be on quiet roads than cycle paths as I'll be running 28 tyres on my touring bike..

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

24 June 2015 - 12:18pm
There may well (probably, more like) come a day when you can no longer get hold of the paper maps as they have been totally superseded and exist only as oddities kept for amusement and out of historical interest.
Any up to date ones will be home printed sheets after downloading from the internet.

Rather like my slide rule (I may even have a set of tables somewhere in a box or at the back of a drawer).

Radical designs cyclone trailer..

24 June 2015 - 12:06pm
I'm selling the above trailer..Its advertised in the Bits of bikes section...015.JPG

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

24 June 2015 - 12:05pm
The ability to read a map is a valuable skill, as others have pointed out, but it's important not to be a Luddite with new technology. There was probably a time when the people who could get around by watching which way the rabbits were hopping etc were scornful of the new-fangled maps and charts.

English Channel to the Med' 2016

24 June 2015 - 12:00pm
Hi there, I have posted this request on several forums now btw.

I have been planning to cycle the length of France next year with friends for about eight months now. Unfortunately a couple have had to drop out due to a wedding next year now! Groan, (plus there are a couple of flakey ones who I am sure will back out). So, there are a 4 places, possibly 6 at a push available.

This is not a business but a private jaunt, a non money making trip. I would rather have kept it just friends and people I know, but to keep the shared costs low, I feel I have to open it up now. Here the basics.

Van supported, so all bags, tents etc are taken to the end of that days stage.
3 weeks starting Friday 1st of July with the ferry crossing to Caen, finishing in Cassis on Saturday 23rd July, flying home on the Sunday while the van drives back with the bikes and bags in
2 rest days
A mixture of camping and hotels, the majority I have made contact with, some i can book shortly, but most next year.
Still fine tuning the last weeks route and accommodation

Rough Costs pp:
£1932 for train to ferry, ferry with cabin, day to day food and evening dinner, accommodation, flight home.
the driver has the same costs plus the hire of the van, petrol etc. this will then be divided up between the riders, this is all comes to £4518 and is divided between the amount of cyclists in the group. Say 7 riders, that is £645 each rider, so that plus your £1932 = £2577. Then spending money for tourist tat. The very maximum should be £3000 but I am thinking around £2500 It does look a lot when it is in print. All the info is on my webpage.
(cheaper for couples because of booked rooms, ferry cabins etc) If I get more riders, then that shared cost comes down!!

I have done loads of research, we get to see Le tour during the first 3days, produced garmin/google earth maps in detail, with lots of info on them. Basically everything is done for you, all you have to do is to enjoy each days ride. I know a lot of people like the challenge of cycling with all their own kit, so this trip is defo not for you. But if you want to enjoy the feel of your bike each day while cycling though some amazing countryside, through vineyards, chateaus in the Loire and up Ventoux, then this is perfect for you.

Day 01 - 66.9miles - Camp
Day 02 - 55.1miles - Camp
Day 03 - 53.8miles - Camp
Day 04 - 39.3miles - Camp
Day 05 - 55.7miles - Camp
Day 06 - 47.4miles - Camp
Day 07 - 79.8miles - Hotel
Day 08 - DAY OFF - Hotel
Day 09 - 33.9miles - Camp
Day 10 - 28.3miles - Camp
Day 11 - 47.2miles - Hotel
Day 12 - 59.6miles - Hotel
Day 13 - 72.9miles - Camp
Day 14 - 37.1miles - Camp or Hotel
DAY 15 - DAY OFF - Camp or Hotel
Day 16 - 60.0miles - Camp
Day 17 - 52.6miles - Hotel - (route to be fine tuned as is accommodation)
Day 18 - 75miles - Camp - (route to be fine tuned as is accommodation)
Day 19 - 40miles - Camp - (route to be fine tuned as is accommodation)
Day 20 - 52.4miles - Camp - (route to be fine tuned as is accommodation)
Day 21 - 44.3miles - Camp - (route to be fine tuned as is accommodation)
Day 22 - 45.8miles - Camp - (route to be fine tuned as is accommodation)

Re: Bicycles from Britain to Continent

24 June 2015 - 10:18am
I've booked Bike Express for me, my wife and my teenage daughter to get to Provence this summer, and it was not as expensive as I had feared. Yes, a cheap flight to Nice would have been cheaper, but I don't fly. I gave up flying when the damage done by aircraft emissions became apparent. And the Bike Express option seems simpler, with less hassle. You turn up at one of their collection points, turn your handlebars sideways and let someone load your bike carefully into a covered trailer. Then you get onto the comfortable bus with lots of leg room and semi-reclining seats and read your newspaper.

Re: Bicycles from Britain to Continent

24 June 2015 - 10:08am
chris_suffolk wrote:When I looked, the Eurostar restrictions are quite hard to comply with (max of 85cm bike box if I recall), or book ahead and place in goods part of train, but may not arrive on same train as you. I gave up with Eurostar, and decided, if I went abroad, I would use the ferry option.

Eurostar is very easy. You only need to box the bike if you want to carry it onto the passenger train (the one you ride on) with you. Otherwise you take the bike to the freight depot (in the Eurostar stations) and all you need to do is take off any loose bits like water bottles and bags. That's it. Pick it up at the other end (from the freight depot) and ride away.

Booking the bike space is required, especially so in summer. There's no online booking for bikes, so you need to call the EuroDispatch number and reserve a bike space (they'll tell you when it'll arrive at the destination) and then/simultaneously book your own seat. The bike goes on a freight service, so not really important that it's a different train. Normally you drop the bike off a couple of hours before it/you leave, but you can drop it off the day before (handy if you have to overnight in a hotel before your train).


Re: Bicycles from Britain to Continent

24 June 2015 - 9:54am
The thing about Bike Express and the Bike Bus is that they are so incredibly expensive. Some of us are on budgets!!

Re: Map reading - can anyone do this now?

24 June 2015 - 9:52am
hamster wrote:simonineaston wrote:The ideal for me would be some sort of combo of the electric and the paper - there was a foldable A3 e-ink jobbie knocking around a few years ago - imagine one of them in colour and waterproof... with all your maps on! Oh Bliss!!
http://news.softpedia.com/news/LG-Devel ... 2222.shtml

It never went to market. E-Paper is struggling as consumers increasingly bought tablets instead of e-readers.
I'm quite fond of e-ink displays - I have a couple of devices that use them, a Kindle Paperwhite being one example. Big plus is the whopping battery life, as they hardly use any current... my Kindle stays charged for up to 3 weeks! For me, it's perfect for 'type-written' reading material, like books. I've never taken to the glossy full colour look of tablets just as I am perfectly happy reading old-fashioned paperbacks, in preference to a glossy 'coffee table' hardback. At one stage I experimented with using map screenshots saved as pdfs and reading them on my Kindle, but b&w maps don't do it for me.
Talking about navigating across strange towns, I did these for towns that I knew I was going to visit on trips to northern France. At one stage, soem versions of Kindle could use built-in technology to geolocate themselves - not a proper GPS chip, but used cell masts I think...I took a screenshots from Geoportail. Sort-of worked, but the act of getting the Kindle out, turning it on and browsing to the right page was in practice, too much trouble. Fun to have a go, though... in some ways it was quite successful, in that I knew I had a decent map image of the town as a fallback - better to get the paper colour map from the toursit information centre, tho'...
(Remember the old A-Z series? I was a motorcycle courier for a while and the London A-Z was our 'bible'...)

Re: Extra stuff inside bike bag with Easyjet

24 June 2015 - 9:49am
Just wondering if I can piggyback onto this discussion. I'm flying to Germany shortly and intending to hire a bike there. I'm expecting to only take hand luggage. Is there likely to be a problem over taking a tool kit in hand luggage?

I can't believe that a helmet would be a problem but if that's the case, would also appreciate a tip off.


Rhine-Moselle short tour, advice needed

24 June 2015 - 9:41am

I'm not new to touring but I'm doing a self constructed, self guided tour with my daughter involving flying to Bonn, hiring bikes (we don't want to take our own because of the hassles of transporting them and we're hoping we can hire halfway decent bikes in Bonn), cycling down the Rhine to Koblenz, then Trier, then to Luxembourg where we expect to take a train back to Bonn to return the bikes. We've allowed 6 days.

Just wondering if anyone has done anything similar; if anyone can recommend good bike hire facilities in Bonn (bikes need to have racks or some light luggage carrying fixtures); we were imagining staying in hostels and if there were any recommendations of those or cheaper hotels/B&Bs on the route that would be great. Anything else that occurs to anyone.

We're going at the end of July.

Many thanks in advance.

Re: Tents without groundsheet

24 June 2015 - 9:26am
Buy a poly survival bag for £3 and use that.

Re: touring tool kit

24 June 2015 - 9:02am
Somewhere in my garage I still have a Kooltool from about 1990. It is a tiny adjustable spanner with a chain tool integrated neatly into the handle, and holding a few detachable allen keys. I still dig it out when I need a very small adjustable spanner, a feature that is absent in later multi-tools.

Re: touring tool kit

24 June 2015 - 8:50am
shane wrote:P1010236 by Shane Cycles, on Flickr

This is about it for me, the crank puller was a one off as I was over the 10,000km mark with my BB at the time.

Seems such an obvious thing once I've seen it...

i) Cut down Brooks spanner. Never stiff, so shorter plenty. Like.
ii) Allen keys from a multitool thingy seperated and put on a carabiner. Nicety.

Re: 11 speed for touring?

24 June 2015 - 8:00am
When I was a couple of decades younger I hauled my self and my touring bike, with 4 panniers and camping gear, over the Col de la Bonnette, the Stelvio Pass and other high passes on a 39t chainring with a sprocket of something like 32 teeth. Then triple chainsets arrived with their extra little ring for getting heavy loads up the hills. At last the kit matched the job in hand. The thought of having a smallest chainring bigger than 26t on a tourer makes me feel depressed. It would be like going back to the Dark Ages. When 11 speed includes the option of a chainring of 26teeth or less combined with a sprocket of 32 teeth or more I may be interested, providing I can be convinced that the chains are up to the job.


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