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Garmin Edge Touring

23 March 2015 - 8:23am
Ps, how do you pm on Taptalk? !!!!
Ignore this, now found, not terrible intuitive!

Re: Garmin Edge Touring

23 March 2015 - 8:20am
Thanks both, I'll pm you my email address Rob

Re: Garmin Edge Touring

23 March 2015 - 7:45am
I don't think the file naming is an issue on newer garmins. I have an 800 and an etrex20 with several maps. I can't check at the moment, but think they just need the same file extension .img

Re: Safe routes in to central Lugano & Milan

23 March 2015 - 5:45am
I'm not from that area, but a really popular route for bikers from Milan to Ghisallo is the following:

http://www.bicimilano.it/percor5.htm

Check the table below "tabella del percorso". It is not a cycling path, but many bikers cycle along that route, so I suppose it is quite nice and calm

Re: Is there an app that replaces a Garmin?

23 March 2015 - 2:19am
I have an iPhone but not a GPS. I am using an app called Pocket Earth. It costs a couple dollars and let's you download maps for use off-line. I've used it in the U.S., UK, Germany and Italy. All maps downloaded free. I download the maps when I have wifi, usually at home before I go.

It also uses the phone's GPS, as long as the phone is not in airplane mode. That is, it will tell you where you are on a map without any internet connection. This connects the iPhone up to the local network but there are no charges unless you actually answer or make a phone call.

Since the GPS drains the phone's power quickly, I don't leave it on unless I need to decided which turn to make. It doesn't give turn by turn directions.

I wrote an article about my recent experience with the app, if anyone is interested.

Re: Garmin Edge Touring

22 March 2015 - 10:46pm
I wouldn't waste money on the Garmin maps.

The stuff here https://www.velomap.org/ is pretty good - and free. I've dowloaded a load of maps for our tour this June which takes in France, Luxembourg, Germany, a little bit of Holland, and Belgium.

It's a bit of a fiddle if you need more than one country (you'll need separate SD cards for each one as the filenames are all the same in the Garmin ... but SDs are cheap as chips nowdays)

To save the hassle of downloading if you PM me I can send you, say, the France file

Rob

Re: Getting contours on OSM of Italy for Garmin

22 March 2015 - 9:58pm
Hey
when i was looking about a year ago, contour maps for garmin (outside of the garmin maps product) are only available from the guy at openmtbmap.org - he adds features to the openstreetmap maps & sells the product.
Great site. guy has put in a ton of work. well worth the subscription fee.
We used it on a recent tour through southeast asia. We didnt do route planning in a big way here, but it became REALLY handy when we realized we could plug in the day's final location into the garmin (etrex 30) & tell it to "autoroute" to it. One of the screens on the garmin (i forget which) gives you the full altitude profile of the day's route!! very cool. As we found out on a couple of demoralizing instances, it's not exact to within more than a km or so, but excellent to get an idea of the day's route.
I assume within garmin basecamp on your laptop you can do some pretty handy route planning through there too.

couple of links:
* here's is openmtbmaps dot org on how to do autorouting:
https://openmtbmap.org/about-2/autorouting/

* here's openmtbmaps again at the main page, do a search for "contour" to get some info:
https://openmtbmap.org/

* one other option is map2mapc which can apparently be used to digitize your paper maps, then geo-locate them & then put them on your garmin. ended up being way too complicated for me.
http://www.the-thorns.org.uk/mapping/help/begin.html

lastly, a couple of tips:
* make sure you have a fat internet connection as the contour maps are done by region and are HUGE (multiple Gigs). Once they're in basecamp, you can select the smaller map area and save it to the device
* make sure you buy an sd memory card for the garmin & save the maps onto that bcos the main memory wont be big enough.
* transfer the maps onto the sd card by plugging it directly into your computer. Dont leave the SD card in the garmin & attach the garmin by usb cable to the PC - it will take forever.

Garmin Edge Touring

22 March 2015 - 9:53pm
Hi, I have this to help navigate us through France. It comes loaded with open street maps and unsure whether I need to buy the full Garmin Navigator maps.
I've used in the UK and find it a bit challenging as not all roads are shown!
Any advice?

Best saddle for touring

22 March 2015 - 9:48pm
Psamathe wrote:thayer19 wrote:The C17 looks a great saddle, I'd be interested to hear people's feedback as I've heard the textured material on top tears through shorts and the saddle acts a kin to a trampoline when going over bumps? Is this a myth? It looks a great saddle so I hope this isn't the case as I'd be interested to switch over to it.
I've got a C15 and I'm unsure (after 800 miles). It certainly is not what I would call a trampoline; pretty firm compared to my previous saddle My bum is certainly suffering (bruised sit bones). I'm persevering, hoping my bum will acclimatise (and that itr is taking time is not surprising me). I also wear Endura Humvee (mostly) so I would not expect to see wear on them. I've use my "normal" lycra shorts less often so too soon to see wear. My previous saddle included some padding and with the C15 I've noticed my shorts with thinner padding are worse, thicker padded shorts easier. So I'm switching to some good gel padded shorts which is making things easier.

Ian

I'm a C17 groupie. I'm pretty muscular, short and about 70kg to give you a comparison if you are shaped otherwise. About 6 months use and no bruising or trampolining. When I first sat on this saddle I was surprised at the firmness and initially a bit worried. I find my saddle works best with a slight 'nose up' angle as it averages out at fairly horizontal when you sit on it. Firmness seems the same now as it was on day 1 and as far as I'm aware no breaking in has occurred or has needed to as this is a 'ready to ride' saddle. The texturised saddle has the right balance. You don't slip about but if you need to move you aren't velcroed in. I also haven't had any wear on my clothes, but I'm not a Lycra clad cyclist.

In summary this saddle is there but I don't notice it. I would buy the same for a second or winter bike as it is all weather and maintenance free.

It's a vegan option too.

Does that help?

Re: NCN Routes 62 and 67 on a tandem?

22 March 2015 - 9:40pm
I had a bit of a ride on Route 67 today but only from Stanley as far as just short of Royston. The only barriers I came across were the tall ones that slope inwards as they rise, which I've always managed to get through with panniers.

The route is largely surfaced with hardcore and was bone dry today. The sections along the old Barnsley canal should be fine on the tandem. There are a couple of sections on quietish roads.

Though I didn't get that far, I seem to remember the route through Cudworth being mainly on the road. That may have changed in recent years.

Finally, there's a bridge with steps as you get close to Stanley, but there's a bicycle ramp on the stairs which you should be able to push the bike up.

All in all, weather permitting, a pleasant ride.

Hope that's of some use and good luck with the planning and the riding.

Re: Best saddle for touring

22 March 2015 - 9:19pm
thayer19 wrote:The C17 looks a great saddle, I'd be interested to hear people's feedback as I've heard the textured material on top tears through shorts and the saddle acts a kin to a trampoline when going over bumps? Is this a myth? It looks a great saddle so I hope this isn't the case as I'd be interested to switch over to it.
I've got a C15 and I'm unsure (after 800 miles). It certainly is not what I would call a trampoline; pretty firm compared to my previous saddle My bum is certainly suffering (bruised sit bones). I'm persevering, hoping my bum will acclimatise (and that itr is taking time is not surprising me). I also wear Endura Humvee (mostly) so I would not expect to see wear on them. I've use my "normal" lycra shorts less often so too soon to see wear. My previous saddle included some padding and with the C15 I've noticed my shorts with thinner padding are worse, thicker padded shorts easier. So I'm switching to some good gel padded shorts which is making things easier.

Ian

Re: Unique Cycling Tour...Riders Wanted

22 March 2015 - 8:37pm
Destroyed??
Are sure it wasn't put into a silage clamp? Costs £700/Ha to grow.

Re: Unique Cycling Tour...Riders Wanted

22 March 2015 - 8:22pm
Or maybe he was leaving it for game birds?

Re: Best saddle for touring

22 March 2015 - 7:51pm
Ruta78 wrote:Thank you everyone who replied, I have made my decision and bought Brooks B17s yesterday, cant wait to try it out!
Don't get rid of the old saddle!

Leather saddles are great, I just prefer my leather stretched over some foam and a slice of carbon

Re: Best saddle for touring

22 March 2015 - 7:33pm
One person's meat is another person's poison. I didn't get on that well with the standard B17 but the B17 Aged that I have on my Brompton has been super comfy straight from the box and for 3,000 miles so far. The Brooks Imperial that I have on my tourer has also given me super comfort. Other saddles which had great reviews have been like instruments of torture however!

Re: Unique Cycling Tour...Riders Wanted

22 March 2015 - 5:51pm
pwa wrote:My father, Irish and proud of it, has always been keen on foraging. His version consists of walking into a field and picking carrots, swede or whatever, in an open and obvious way, even walking over to the farmer for a bit of conversation. As a boy he was brought up to see this as a socially acceptable perk of living in the countryside, and he refuses to modify his views (he's now 82). I'm not recommending this approach, and I don't do it myself.

PS this may get you shot!

The farmer in the field next to me grew sweet corn, I was tempted for weeks to pick some and didn't because it felt like stealing. One day as I was walking past he destroyed the whole crop. I can only assume that he was growing it just for the subsidy

Re: Unique Cycling Tour...Riders Wanted

22 March 2015 - 5:29pm
bigjim wrote:Whats your take on wildlife as a food source? Rabbits pigeons etc. A catapult is a handy item. Maggotts are apparently a good food source. Add them to your stews.

Mmm, hypocritical though it is as a meat eater, I reckon I'd have a problem killing a rabbit. Pigeons wouldn't be too bad, but city pigeons at least carry chlamydia. I think my focus will remain on fish and seafood. But ask me again when I'm starving.

Re: Unique Cycling Tour...Riders Wanted

22 March 2015 - 5:25pm
Sweep wrote:Best of luck with the trip whether it ends up as a lone venture or you progress across Europe like a massed army of locusts.

Cheers, Sweep! To be honest I originally imagined that I'd struggle to find anyone. The fact that so many are interested after only three weeks of fairly limited searching now makes me believe I won't be doing this alone but, if everyone eventually backs out, alone it will be. I'm sure it would be much more fun in a team. There are also several people who may (or may not) join us for a part of the trip. So far we are locusts

Re: Unique Cycling Tour...Riders Wanted

22 March 2015 - 5:18pm
You could try the Poachers' Handbook, though not available on Kindle.

Re: Is there an app that replaces a Garmin?

22 March 2015 - 4:57pm
Sweep wrote:I'd get an Etrex 20 .............. I'd put money on it lasting longer than your iphone which as far as I can see is the apotheosis of built-in obsolescence.Excellent advice.
This is the way forward for anyone wanting GPS but afraid to dip their feet very far into the water.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Garmin-eTrex-Ou ... s=etrex+20

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