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Re: America: the bizarre

31 January 2016 - 5:30pm
Pete Jack wrote:TonyR wrote:Pete Jack wrote:Would you extend that to tourist cycling through Skid Row or Florencia in LA? I agree with you in general but there are places you would be advised to stay clear of as a tourist unless accompanied by an experienced guide, I wouldn't recommend a tour of Scotland to include East Kilbride either. I don't live far from Skid Row (the 'skid' refers to a chute they slid logs down about 120 years ago). The only cyclist I know who has come to harm in that area hit a manhole and fell off and broke his hip. The road surfaces around there were terrible. But lately the whole city is getting a lot more bike friendly. What's your point? Every biggish city on the planet has areas it's best to stay to stay away from. I once got my pocket picked in Valence, France. Does that mean the whole country should be avoided? In Normandy I had a gang of hooligans in a car slowing down and yelling at me, quite scary, until I realized they were trying to stop me riding down the on ramp to an N road.

Earlier in this thread I foolishly expressed the view (which I am now happy to modify) that American streets are not safe. I now accept that I was over-generalising and that it is possible to select safe-ish roads there. But it would be very "head-in the sand" to ignore the fact that the US has a murder rate substantially greater than that in the UK or any other Western European country. In the light of that, making a point of visiting run-down urban areas (as the OP suggests) seems like something that should only be done with care, if at all. After all, if most of the USA is no more dangerous than the UK (as some seem to suggest) the high murder rate must be concentrated somewhere.

Re: touring and flying with hydraulic disc brakes

31 January 2016 - 5:24pm
Why worry about fixing something that is unlikely to break and if it does its not critical?

Re: touring and flying with hydraulic disc brakes

31 January 2016 - 5:23pm
If you worry about technology braking I would leave the gears behind as well. They are far more fragile that hydraulic discs. In the decade and a half or there abouts I haven't broken or even mildly injured hydraulic discs on my MTB which gets way more hard use than any tour I bet. No MTBer would be without them unless they have a fetish for old style stuff ( not a bad idea actually) or they want to be able to hand forge a spare part from a Mongolian soup plate. Its only a brake. If you snap one off you walk down a hill.
Having used cable discs on my roughstuff bikes for 6 years I would swear by them. Over Xmas I swapped the road bike from cable to hydro discs and by god they are better. If you are starting from scratch price up hydros then cables plus the shifters. They won't be far apart.
Of course you will have the problem that no hydro road system plays with triple chainsets if that's what you need.

Re: America: the bizarre

31 January 2016 - 5:17pm
TonyR wrote:Pete Jack wrote:Would you extend that to tourist cycling through Skid Row or Florencia in LA? I agree with you in general but there are places you would be advised to stay clear of as a tourist unless accompanied by an experienced guide, I wouldn't recommend a tour of Scotland to include East Kilbride either. I don't live far from Skid Row (the 'skid' refers to a chute they slid logs down about 120 years ago). The only cyclist I know who has come to harm in that area hit a manhole and fell off and broke his hip. The road surfaces around there were terrible. But lately the whole city is getting a lot more bike friendly. What's your point? Every biggish city on the planet has areas it's best to stay to stay away from. I once got my pocket picked in Valence, France. Does that mean the whole country should be avoided? In Normandy I had a gang of hooligans in a car slowing down and yelling at me, quite scary, until I realized they were trying to stop me riding down the on ramp to an N road.

Re: Cinelli hobootleg with columbus rustproof steel

31 January 2016 - 5:16pm
Neil C wrote:Cinelli website says "Frame and fork are made by triple butted Columbus Cromor steel with a special protective electro deposition paint treatment inside and outside the tubes for a total protection against corrosion and extreme reliability."

http://www.cinelli.it/site/index.php?pa ... t&Itemid=9

I'll take it is Cataphoresis. Used in cars, not much on bicycles but it seems to work well so my take is that isn't used to cut costs. I.e. Scapin steel bikes had that treatment and it worked.

Re: touring and flying with hydraulic disc brakes

31 January 2016 - 5:07pm
I'm a dead simple bloke.....

I choose my brakes by how quickly they slow me down. NOT by how easy/difficult/possibly/maybe/probably/worry worry worry they can be fixed 'by the side of the road'....

I'm fairly new to cycling ( I have a motorcycling background ...I've toured the world on 'em ) So, serious question for all you 'experienced' cycling bods......Has a major tour on a push bike EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS PLANET come to an end due to brake failure ???...

I can tell you this with 100% certainty, it would not stop me doing anything.....

You can probably tell, I have a VERY low tolerance of chronic pessimisim !!!.....

Bike Hire Somme France

31 January 2016 - 4:52pm
Hiya,

Does anyone know where I could hire a couple of hybrids in the Somme area, France in August?

Thank you

David

Re: d lock for touring?

31 January 2016 - 4:31pm
The Missus and I take two armoured heavy duty cable type locks which can be linked together to form one long length that is really handy for locking two bikes to a hefty tree. But they are heavy. And no lock is 100%.

Dog trailers

31 January 2016 - 3:17pm
Hi Everyone. Has anyone had any experience with dog trailers. We have decided to take our pooches with us on tour, as we cant find anyone to look after them and kennels are not an option. I have seen peoples' tour blogs who have used the Cycle Tote trailers and love the look of it, but as we don't know yet whether our pooches will take to a trailer, I am loath to spend that sort of money just yet. I have been looking at the various types available in the UK, but have yet to see one in the flesh as there are no suppliers close to us. As such, I find it hard to gauge the sturdiness and suitability for our dogs. I have a golden retriever and an aging patterdale terrier. I am inclined to buy a cheaper trailer and practice with it for a while, but am totally undecided as to which to get. Ideally, I'd like to get both dogs in one trailer, but recognise that for a tour they will probably need their own. I have been looking at the Trixie large dog trailer on Amazon, which seems to have good reviews. Any ideas or experiences would be greatly appreciated. If anyone has one for sale, I'd be interested.

Re: touring and flying with hydraulic disc brakes

31 January 2016 - 3:16pm
I've never had the problem you mention,with cable disc brakes.

My point was that cable discs are easier to contend with by the roadside,should I need to.

Re: touring and flying with hydraulic disc brakes

31 January 2016 - 3:12pm
Have done 2 to 4 week tours every year for last 15 years on a slicked mountain bike with hydraulic brakes in Norway, France, Spain & Italy. No issues with reliability & no problems with long descents from high passes (e.g. Cime de Bonnet 2802m). Like anything else can get them checked out before setting off.

Also very happy with my Ultregra dual pivots on my unloaded road bike on similar descents

Airlines happy to take them. Have used EasyJet, SAS, KLM, Ryanair & Jet2. EasyJet state on their website that hydraulic brakes & suspensions are fine.

Not sure if this helps but never having had a sudden failure when mountain biking I've never thought they would be an issue

Re: Dutch tulip fields

31 January 2016 - 3:03pm
Marten,

Even close to your home in Groningen, you can find them.


East of Eenum

Re: Dutch tulip fields

31 January 2016 - 2:54pm
Not sure about tulip fields, but you might enjoy a visit to Appeldoorn. I stayed in a hotel on the outskirts and was given a tourist guide to local cycle routes. There is some lovely heather heathland and local forests to explore and if you want something horticultural, visit Het Loo, a royal palace with some extensive gardens which is open to the public.

Some of the heath and forest tracks are a bit rough but no worse that many UK routes.

Re: d lock for touring?

31 January 2016 - 2:50pm
hondated wrote:I think even grinding through that would take longer than through an alloy seat post as well.

But a few seconds to remove with a chain tool

Re: touring and flying with hydraulic disc brakes

31 January 2016 - 2:41pm
reohn2 wrote:BB7's can be stripped and rebuilt in 1/2 an hour with a couple of small tools in the back of beyond and a cable replaced in minutes,can the same be said for hydros?.
Whilst that may never need to be the case with either system,I know which I'd rather be dealing with.

But that's the point. I have often had to deal with problems with cables when touring. They seize, they don't release and they sometimes break. The calipers themselves are pretty reliable. I've never had to touch my hydraulic brakes apart from occassional pad changes. And I've had them on a variety of my bikes for up to 15 years. Would you rather have to deal with brake problems on tour or not deal with them? I know which I'd rather do.

And as said if you can't deal with problems, then restricting your touring to more cycling civilised countries is probably advisable. I have had to deal with rebuilding wheels, changing a cassette because a couple of cogs shattered (including jury rigging until I could get a replacement) and cutting off a granny ring that had folded itself round the down and seat tube on a particularly viscious short hill. All much more difficult than hydraulic brakes that will run on even water in an emergency.

Re: touring and flying with hydraulic disc brakes

31 January 2016 - 1:33pm
the only thing I've had on flights is bent rotors, due to poor packing or the bike box being thrown around. I take the rotor off now (I only have a disc on the rear), before packing the bike.

Re: touring and flying with hydraulic disc brakes

31 January 2016 - 1:13pm
Tiberius wrote:I built my 'tourer' up last year...Surly Troll/Rohloff/SON 28...and initially fitted Avid BB7 cable disc brakes. They were powerful but felt crude, I just didn't like them. I replaced them with Shimano XT hydraulic brakes and they are so much better. Powerful with lots of 'feel'....VERY controlable one finger braking everywhere.

4,500 miles later....I haven't touched them once.....no new pads, no bleeding, no adjusting or anything else. I wouldn't think twice about setting off anywhere with them. I would carry spare pads and that would be it.

I think people worry too much about the so called 'complexity' of hydraulic disc brakes. The hydraulic disc brakes as fitted to push bikes are simple things. We are not talking linked/servo assistance/ABS here (yet ?) they are just lever/tube/caliper. Granted, they ARE more complex than Vs or cantilevers but they are still fairly simple things and they work so much better (IMHO).
Just my 2p.....

I'm glad your hydros are serving you well,but I'd hardly call BB7's crude, simply designed yes, but that's their beauty as they're so easily and quickly serviced,and their stopping power is exceptional,even on the tandem.

Anyone who thinks that they would be stuck if their push bike brakes developed a fault when they were out riding in the back of beyond, really shouldn't be riding there in the first place.....
I disagee,it wouldn't be a fault of the tourist being there but a bad choice of equipment,if the bike can't be repaired by the roadside.
Hydros whilst reliable aren't infallible,as cable discs aren't either,but it's the inability to repair hydros by the roadside that makes them a bad choice IMV.
BB7's can be stripped and rebuilt in 1/2 an hour with a couple of small tools in the back of beyond and a cable replaced in minutes,can the same be said for hydros?.
Whilst that may never need to be the case with either system,I know which I'd rather be dealing with.

Re: Hook of Holland to the German border

31 January 2016 - 1:03pm
Tigerbiten wrote:Look on the Open Cycle Map for the long distance cycle routes.
I'd start on the LF1 going a few miles North along the coast.
Then on to LF4 going East which gets you to the Netherlands-German border.
Then D3 and D7 gets you to Hamburg. There's a slight gap between D3 and D7.
I expect most of that route to be well signposted.

I may take that route in April on my way to the Baltic.

LF routes are signposted, but the position & shape of the signs is variable, so you will miss them at times. You will need a map to find the track again

Re: touring and flying with hydraulic disc brakes

31 January 2016 - 12:54pm
molzor wrote:Hello,
I am currently in the process of building up a tourer using a croix de fer frame. The man in the bike shop couldnt understand why I wanted canti brakes, and they dont fit on the frame anyway. I guess i can go with cable disc brakes...But do any of you have any thoughts on using hydraulic disc breaks on a tourer.

I understand some of the pro points for using hydraulic brakes but are they really suitable for touring? and furthermore, has anyone had issues flying with them?

We've cover this aspect of hydro disc before but hear goes again.
Downside of hydros are if they loose fluid yer goosed,until you get to a shop.
They're designed for short sharp braking applications,as in MTB's or fairly flatish terrain,if you have to drag them on long descents in the big hills, they can fail suddenly and catastrophically without warning due to the fluid boiling.
If using with drop bars the levers are vulnerable and very costly in a fall flat bar levers aren't as vulnerable.

By contrast cable discs are able to be stripped by the roadside and a cable can be changed as quick as rim brakes and no messy oil.
They don't fade when dragged on descents.
The pads last as long a hydro pads.
The only downside compared with hydros is that the pads need adjusting manually once in a while,which is a 30 second job.

I'd recommend Avid BB7's as very good cable disc brakes.
I have them on three solos and one tandem and have no complaints whatsoever with their stopping power,which is second to non,and ability to work extremely well in all weathers and conditions.
The nearest thing to them for stopping power are V's but they eat pads in bad weather and wear out rims.

If the bike is securely packed there should be no problem flying with disc brakes.

Re: d lock for touring?

31 January 2016 - 12:28pm
The Krypto Evo Mini 5 is good for locking to sheffield stands, but (IMO) a bit too small for non-UK touring where you may struggle to find somewhere suitable to put your bike. The Mini 7 is bigger so gives you a few more options.

Another alternative, if you travel as a couple, is to get a 300mm shackle length lock (we have an Abus Varedo 47 - 12mm shackle) which weighs less than two D-locks and can be used to lock two bikes together.

Where will you be locking your bike? Although the heavy armour is needed for locking up in Central London you can get away a lot less in rural France.

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