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Re: Bike suitability for a particular interior road in Icela

20 January 2015 - 3:23pm
22camels wrote:Yeah I need to learn how to replace broken spokes.

Do you think upgrading just the back wheel will be alright then, there wouldn't be some sort of imbalance between the wider heavier stronger rim on the back, and the narrow, lighter, weaker rim on the front?

That's the thing, I wouldn't lose most of my holiday as I'm sure I would still have a good time even without my bike, it's about expectations. But I guess the primary purpose I set myself for this trip is to learn more about longer distance bike touring in a more challenging environment as the max I've done up to now is one week in quite easy places and I have plans for a much longer trip. So in that sense yes I think should take the bike side of it seriously .

If funds are limited, then the priority would be the back wheel, you would have to keep the load limited up front ( just enough to make handling of the bike better) and avoid potholes, your front wheel might not survive those.

Maybe you could do the rough stuff in the last week? That way any problems are not too much of a big deal, you will still have had lots of cycling, doing this you might be able to use your existing back wheel.

Re: Bike suitability for a particular interior road in Icela

20 January 2015 - 3:14pm
If you want to help preserve the wheels do not put everything on the rear of the bike, spread the load! Take an emergency spoke - no need to remove cassette to get you going again.

Looking at those roads, it looks like fun and i'd happily tackle them on my Airnimal!

Re: Bike suitability for a particular interior road in Icela

20 January 2015 - 2:51pm
Yeah I need to learn how to replace broken spokes.

Do you think upgrading just the back wheel will be alright then, there wouldn't be some sort of imbalance between the wider heavier stronger rim on the back, and the narrow, lighter, weaker rim on the front?

That's the thing, I wouldn't lose most of my holiday as I'm sure I would still have a good time even without my bike, it's about expectations. But I guess the primary purpose I set myself for this trip is to learn more about longer distance bike touring in a more challenging environment as the max I've done up to now is one week in quite easy places and I have plans for a much longer trip. So in that sense yes I think should take the bike side of it seriously .

Re: Bike suitability for a particular interior road in Icela

20 January 2015 - 2:34pm
Yes, that sounds like good advice. Having the kit and the knowledge to repair wheels in the field will cost you little and give you a feeling of independence. You need to be able to get the cassette off (tiny portable tool from Spa) and you need spare spokes (mainly cassette side rear) and a spoke key.

Re: Bike suitability for a particular interior road in Icela

20 January 2015 - 2:25pm
22camels wrote:Yeah ok I will probably go with the new wheel set, but I'm still a bit skeptical as I'm on a bit of a budget and to invest another 250 into a bike I won't be keeping for that much longer seems a bit rash. 40mm tyres on new wheels, or 35mm tyres on current stock wheels, that I've had no trouble with, never a broken spoke. Actually I have done, on 28mm tyres, a bit of forestry roads here and even beaches where the sand was dense enough and it was fine. There is a lot of variation in off-road surfaces, even within Iceland, so, lacking experience, it's difficult for me to say now how it will be on the specific road I'm thinking of taking. Also whilst yes sure it's true that strong wheels are essential, and Iceland demands an extra high level of preparedness, I suspect it's tempting to over prepare / over insure - yes if you want the trip to be perfect, or if it's a long trip, yes, but for a short trip of three weeks, if there is a 50% chance I'll be fine with my current setup, if a bit slow on the gravel, and the other 50% of the time, my wheels break in the first week, I have to catch a ride to the next town, and spend the rest of the trip larking around on foot, do I mind that much? Not sure..

Turn it around and look at it another way. You only have a short trip, a breakage could mean losing most of your holiday. To keep costs down you could just upgrade the back wheel. These at £86 for rear wheel

http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php ... b0s176p349

will do the job perfectly. For the front take do not put a lot of weight up front, take a few spare spokes and learn how to repair them. Most spoke breakagages are on the rear anyway. When you get rid of the bike, sell the rear wheel on here ( or transfer to the new one, it will almost always be better than what is supplied on a new one if the rear wheel is machine built), you'll get a decent price.

Re: It makes me want to tour there again .....

20 January 2015 - 2:08pm
foxyrider wrote:mercalia wrote: No more charabangs ( wow thats the first time in probably 50 years or so I have used that term, I had to confirm its spelling ).

and you still got it wrong, its actually charabanc as any bus enthusiast will tell you!

Now if you're being pedantic it's actually char-à-banc

Re: Bike suitability for a particular interior road in Icela

20 January 2015 - 1:35pm
Yeah ok I will probably go with the new wheel set, but I'm still a bit skeptical as I'm on a bit of a budget and to invest another 250 into a bike I won't be keeping for that much longer seems a bit rash. 40mm tyres on new wheels, or 35mm tyres on current stock wheels, that I've had no trouble with, never a broken spoke. Actually I have done, on 28mm tyres, a bit of forestry roads here and even beaches where the sand was dense enough and it was fine. There is a lot of variation in off-road surfaces, even within Iceland, so, lacking experience, it's difficult for me to say now how it will be on the specific road I'm thinking of taking. Also whilst yes sure it's true that strong wheels are essential, and Iceland demands an extra high level of preparedness, I suspect it's tempting to over prepare / over insure - yes if you want the trip to be perfect, or if it's a long trip, yes, but for a short trip of three weeks, if there is a 50% chance I'll be fine with my current setup, if a bit slow on the gravel, and the other 50% of the time, my wheels break in the first week, I have to catch a ride to the next town, and spend the rest of the trip larking around on foot, do I mind that much? Not sure..

Re: 2nd pair of shoes

20 January 2015 - 1:07pm
Birkenstock sandals. Quite often cycle in them too

Re: accommodation

20 January 2015 - 11:46am
foxyrider wrote:whoof wrote:Guess its always worth asking if there are facilities when you book.


I always check before I book it's just that there is no need in France I just turn up. Last year I was going to book with a hostel in Wales which advertised secure bike parking but when I asked on the phone this turned out to be their back yard. I had to contact three places in the Isle of White before finding somewhere for this February.

Re: Bike delivery service - Virgin BikeMagic

20 January 2015 - 11:05am
Doesn't sound like £50 is the insurance limit, just what you get included as standard - imagine that you can pay for more...

Re: accommodation

20 January 2015 - 10:56am
whoof wrote:The main problem I have is what to do with my bike. In France I I turn up at a hotel and ask if they have somewhere safe to park my bike the answer is always 'of course the garage, cellar, office, your room....'
In the UK it's as if I just asked where I can keep my ox for the night. 'There might be some racks in the street around the corner, perhaps in the garden or could I not put it in my car?'. I know there are lists of cycle friendly B and Bs but the point is in France I don't need a list as they are all cycle friendly.
Guess what, this summer another two weeks cycle touring in France.

Have to say that in my experience most accomodation have been helpful in providing secure bike parking, i think only once have i had to park the bike on the street and that was in Celle in northern Germany. Otherwise its lived in cleaning cupboards, cellars, garages, my room, conference rooms, back corridors.............Guess its always worth asking if there are facilities when you book.

Re: It makes me want to tour there again .....

20 January 2015 - 10:48am
mercalia wrote: No more charabangs ( wow thats the first time in probably 50 years or so I have used that term, I had to confirm its spelling ).

and you still got it wrong, its actually charabanc as any bus enthusiast will tell you!

Re: 2nd pair of shoes

20 January 2015 - 10:45am
Lightweight sandals or deck shoes, they take hardly any space in the bag. The moulded foam type are great - light, waterproof and cheap!

After a day riding i'm glad to have an alternative to my cycling shoes for the off bike activities although i might go shoeless on nice grassy/sandy campsites!

Re: Bike suitability for a particular interior road in Icela

20 January 2015 - 9:25am
If your Tricross survives baggage handlers it will probably survive Iceland! There are plenty of forestry "roads" in the UK for you to experience gravelly tracks and test the suitability of tyres. But good strong wheels will be essential for a loaded bike on rough surfaces.

Re: Touring in Norway

20 January 2015 - 9:21am
beardy wrote:Asking from the viewpoint of somebody who has never flown with a bike, do the luggage weight limits allow you to carry enough kit (including the bike) for four weeks of wild camping?
It depends... Some airlines will allow either allow teo pieces of baggage, and accept a bicycle as one of them. Others do not include bicycles as part of the luggage allowance, but allow them to be carried for no additional charge, with some limitations. Others make passengers pay for everything.

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=67410 is a couple of years old, now, but has some good information.

Excluding the bicycle itself, between carry-on and a checked bag, it's usually possible, even if the checked bag is just panniers all strapped together.

Re: Touring in Norway

20 January 2015 - 9:16am
One more thing to add... trains, and many buses take bicycles in Norway. To take a bike on a train is half the price of an adult ticket. Prebooking is required on some routes. Oslo to Bergen (including Rallarvegen) is one of them. On most routes, however, it's easy to take a bike, and no booking required.

Bikes are free on buses, but on the long distance & regional ones, they need to go into the luggage compartment. That's not usually a problem, although some of the drivers aren't accustomed to handling them. Often, only one luggage compartment is in use for luggage, but the drivers can be convinced to let a cyclist put the bike in the other on the basis that people donæt want dirty tyres and bike chain grease on their luggage, when the truth of the matter is I don't want someone's 50 kilo bag sliding into my bike

On local buses, bikes can go in the wheelchair / buggy spaces. bendy buses have two of these, and the back one is usually available for bikes. Cyclists do have to give priority to disabled passengers, and parents with buggies. In the middle of the day, it's not usually a problem. At peak times, it can be.

It's quite easy to combine trains and buses with cycle touring in Norway, and it can be a good way to see a bit more.

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

20 January 2015 - 9:09am
When the Royal Welsh Show is on, much of Mid Wales gets gridlocked with traffic and unless you are going, it's best to keep clear of the area. Yes, late July/early August is summer holiday time, but for much of Wales, the roads are pretty quiet if you are away from tourist hot spots.

Re: Maps for cycling in Italy ? - North to South

20 January 2015 - 9:01am
Here's the world heritage site for the cilentan coast - http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/842

if you have time it's worth spending a bit in Genoa. its a working port, which adds a patina of grime and modern life to it, but the centre is pretty great

Re: Maps for cycling in Italy ? - North to South

20 January 2015 - 8:59am
Got it !!!
Thanks

Re: Maps for cycling in Italy ? - North to South

20 January 2015 - 8:54am
ianrichards121 wrote:Can't find this place

Cilenten

Any pointers much appreciated





honesty wrote:In my view Siena is the city to see in Tuscany and well visiting (even over Florence). If you are going to Siena it's definitely worth going to San Gimignano as well.

From Genoa as you follow the coast south you'll go through the Parco di Portofino and Cinque Terre both beautiful.

Much further south, the Cilenten coast is amazing. Like the Amalfi but left tourists.

The Cilenten coast is the stretch of coast running south from Salerno and surrounding Palinuro. Its all lovely but I think there are a few world heritage sites in the area as well (Paestum I think plus another). When we went down there (which was to be honest over 20 years ago) my aunty had a flat in Palinuro and we went and stayed a few years on the trot. The beaches are amazing and empty, the sea is blue and warm, and the grotte have to be seen to be believed.

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