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Re: sealskinz socks

16 May 2015 - 2:51pm
I think gloves are a different thing.
Wearing a glove on a bike, the wind comes at you and the cuffs are usually under your sleeves as you'll only be wearing gloves when it's cold.

Socks OTOH you may wear when it's wet and in shorts, just like the blurb shows.
I see that the socks I bought aren't available now.
http://www.sealskinz.com/UK/socks?activity=road%20cycle

Re: Handlebar bag

16 May 2015 - 1:56pm
MartinBrice wrote:ortleib is the most expensive. you will probably save twenty quid by going for another brand. this is a decision you will regret for many years. ortleib is bombproof waterproof, well made, lasrs for decades and has brilliant replaceable map cases.
+1 - my 20 year old is still going strong!

Re: Waterfalls

16 May 2015 - 1:43pm
In North Wales, you have Dyserth waterfall which is a bit inland and Aber falls which are worth visiting and about 3km from the coast.

Re: sealskinz socks

16 May 2015 - 1:11pm
22camels wrote:Just received my second pair in the post this morning (the previous pair definitely had a leak and not only through the top). Here is an extract from the message I've just sent off to Sealskinz:

"After opening the package, I turned them inside out, and carefully filled each of them with water from the tap making sure the outer side (i.e. the interior of the sock) was not exposed to water. One of the socks held the water in without any leaks. With the other sock, water was dripping, it had a small leak in the heel area. "

I hope I get a replacement . Wonder how many of the new ones have this issue.
You will, if my exerience is anything to go by.

Leaving aside issues of whether the design is right, it does seem to me to be a company that stands behind its products as I've twice had to send a pair of gloves back when the cuff unravelled and both times received a new pair rather than their repairing mine.

Re: Waterfalls

16 May 2015 - 1:02pm
This may not meet your on-the-coast criteria, but it's not far off. The main obstacle to accessibility by bike is that it's high on the moors which inevitably means some strenuous climbing.

Mallyan Spout near Goathland is a waterfall and AFAIK, there are others in the immediate area (which has been popularised / commercialised / you name it, by its association with the TV series Heartbeat. )

http://www.yorkshiremoors.co.uk/gazette ... spout.html

Re: Probably the best cycle touring video I've seen...

16 May 2015 - 1:02pm
Fantastic inspirational videos. All I want to do know is drop everything, jump on my bike and pedal off over the nearest hill without looking back.

Re: sealskinz socks

16 May 2015 - 12:49pm
Just received my second pair in the post this morning (the previous pair definitely had a leak and not only through the top). Here is an extract from the message I've just sent off to Sealskinz:

"After opening the package, I turned them inside out, and carefully filled each of them with water from the tap making sure the outer side (i.e. the interior of the sock) was not exposed to water. One of the socks held the water in without any leaks. With the other sock, water was dripping, it had a small leak in the heel area. "

I hope I get a replacement . Wonder how many of the new ones have this issue.

Re: sealskinz socks

16 May 2015 - 12:21pm
hamish wrote:- if it's really wet then I use the end of heavy duty marigold gloves as a gaiter or 'gasket' around my ankles. Cut the fingers of the gloves off and pull the remaining tube up my ankle so they are tight like a drysuit seal at the top but the bottom is over the top of the sock. Any water that runs down my legs is then carried over the opening of the socks rather then into them. If you do this carefully it really works. The gloves rip after a while but they are fairly cheap so that's not too much of a problem. Some experimentation is needed to get the size and technique right!
Ooooh thats a good idea. I'll certainly give this a go. Good "life-hack" Hamish, thank you.

hamish wrote:I can't believe I have just written all this about a pair of socks! Forums make you do funny things don't they?!
LOL, ah the interwebz!

Re: sealskinz socks

16 May 2015 - 11:58am
You wear them with bare legs like is described

Sounds like a job for duct tape

Re: sealskinz socks

16 May 2015 - 11:46am
Thanks for all the advice everyone!

I only ever wear shorts when I cycle, no trousers for me.

Looks like I'll go with getting wet feet and saving the socks for the next day when I have to wear wet shoes and it's not raining as badly.

SPD sandals could definitely be a future purchase!

Re: Scotland: The 'deadly' A9

16 May 2015 - 11:41am
Have a look at the statistics here: http://a9road.info/safety-statistics/statistics/ which as I thought, Dunblane to Perth is in need of new accesses at junctions that are safer for everyone, not just cars but also pedestrians and cyclists, north of Perth it is the single lane sections and lorries, north of Inverness it goes back to junctions. If they don't change the junctions on the new dualled sections it will remain a dangerous road.
Do you have to go to Perth? As an alternative from Pitlochry you could go over the hill to Aberfeldy on minor roads and from there down the Sma' Glen to Crieff and then over on minor roads via Braco to Dunblane or Bridge of Allan and get the train there into Edinburgh. Longer but a nice route and you may be able to wild camp on the way.

Re: sealskinz socks

16 May 2015 - 10:42am
You can stand in a bath of water wearing those socks and have dry feet. It's amazing! I tried it and was greatly impressed. 100% waterproof.

It's that they cannot be used as described. You wear them with bare legs like is described ........... there's even a photo somewhere in their advertising blurb with a chap riding an MTB trough the mud and water with shorts and bare legs.

If you do that, water runs down your legs and fills your socks up.
Yes, they are waterproof .............. just like wellies are waterproof.

Re: Waterfalls

16 May 2015 - 10:18am
wow brilliant, thankyou I will review them all and hopefully get to see them on the way!

Re: Handlebar bag

16 May 2015 - 10:15am
honesty wrote:Maybe look at something like a carradice zip roll?
I tried one of these but found it very awkward to get in to, with its single horizontal zip - I sent it back. I have some arthritis in my thumbs though which didn't help.

Re: Waterfalls

16 May 2015 - 8:18am
Hallaig. On the coast of Raasay. I have only been here by sea kayak so am not sure how easy it is to walk from the end of the track. http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/64347

Re: Waterfalls

16 May 2015 - 8:14am
The aberdulais fals are in fact very close to the tidal limit of the river Neath in South Wales:

http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/aberdulais-tinworks-and-waterfall/

Re: Waterfalls

16 May 2015 - 8:00am
Glenariff Forest Park In Antrim (on the coast road from Ballycastle to belfast)
Glencar waterfall near Sligo

Re: keeping your money safe when touring

16 May 2015 - 7:00am
For a few years, I've been using the Pacsafe below, it fits my phone, camera, cards, cash and passport and other bits and pieces. I always wear it and sometimes sleep with it, it's always with or near me. Getting off the bike, and walking around, it's with me, I never leave it lying around and never forget it.

http://www.pacsafe.com/venturesafe-100- ... -pack.html

Re: sealskinz socks

16 May 2015 - 1:51am
I use sealskinz quite a lot. They obviously have limitations but I still find them very useful.

In terms of leaking through the fabric- they will puncture fairly easily and sometimes they have holes when new! I have taken new ones back and got them replaced! When they are new they are great and even when punctured, on the whole they Keep my feet drier than they would otherwise be. I live in Wales and ride in horrid weather in very boggy places so need all the help I can get to keep comfy.

They are especially useful in cold windy weather as they are wind proof and make summer shoes much much warmer.

It is obvious that they will fill up from the top. I knew that would happen. Even so:

- in drizzle it doesn't seem to be a problem and they keep my feet dry enough and lots warmer than without
- in snow they keep my feet dryer and warmer
- for bikepacking in boggy country they stop my socks getting soaked when walking
- if it's really wet then I use the end of heavy duty marigold gloves as a gaiter or 'gasket' around my ankles. Cut the fingers of the gloves off and pull the remaining tube up my ankle so they are tight like a drysuit seal at the top but the bottom is over the top of the sock. Any water that runs down my legs is then carried over the opening of the socks rather then into them. If you do this carefully it really works. The gloves rip after a while but they are fairly cheap so that's not too much of a problem. Some experimentation is needed to get the size and technique right!

Because I was getting fed up of leaky socks I tried Reed Aquatherm socks. https://www.chillcheater.com/aqshop/catalogue.php?id=3349&page=1Whilst these are not as comfy or breathable as Sealskinz they are much tougher and repairable. I use them in the winter over thick socks in very bad weather.

In summary, waterproof sock are not magic but if you are realsitic about what you expect them to do, they can keep your feet warmer and drier than without!

I can't believe I have just written all this about a pair of socks! Forums make you do funny things don't they?!

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