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Re: Reducing pannier weight

22 March 2015 - 12:36am
You need to change your mindset to shave off weight. Spend some time reading forum posts at Backpacking Light and the message eventually sinks in, weight will be flying out the door, but every time you go away, try something different and create an equipment list for each trip and compare lists over time.

I don't take a barbag and can't see a need for front pannier, unless I'm going into some remote location and need to pack heaps of food and spares, and the list goes on. I usually blog when I travel and take a computer, but could save 1 kilogram by replacing it with an iPad mini.


http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin ... index.html

Re: Handlebar bag views and costs

22 March 2015 - 12:19am
Just loox'd at the bag again and the front of the lid is surely deep enough to avoid the worst rain penetration. One thing I did notice is that the lid has a zipped pocket inside the lid. Loox have kindly put the zip at the bottom of the pocket (as you open the lid) Ah well, it's got three other interior pockets.

It will also fit butterfly bars (59cm) without an extension bracket. Interestingly, it looks like a Garmin etrex on the butterfly bars would be clear of an open lid, because the bag can sit horizontaly, whereas on my drop bar tourer I have to tilt the bag up to allow brake lever clearance I have an idea that I might be able to mount the etrex on the ahead stem to clear the bag lid, if I raise it on a fat blob of silicone sealant + the zip ties (otherwise it cannot unclip)

The Etrex mounts nicely on a quill stem, but not on an ahead.

Re: NCN Routes 62 and 67 on a tandem?

22 March 2015 - 12:14am
Thanks lee.

We can squeeze through most of the squeezers (even with loaded panniers) as long as I remember to flip my mirror inwards and we don't try to pedal straight through.

Glass is not so much fun, but we'l be travelling in daylight and not trying to set a speed record, so I'll just have to keep a sharp eye out. (Sorry about that )

Anyway, the pump and patching kit are always near at hand.

Re: Handlebar bag views and costs

22 March 2015 - 12:02am
Mmm yeah sounds like its a pretty good bar bag then especially in terms of waterproofness. I've been thinking of going for a super c so would be interested to hear how they compare, though to be honest I think I might give this bar bag a go especially for the price.

Re: 3 ladies from Belgium travelling from London to Dover

21 March 2015 - 11:17pm
All I can suggest is you avoid the Thames cycle path which runs through Greenwich and out east. Tortuous, badly signed and surfaced and blocked in parts. These two photos show parts of it west of Greenwich.

Re: 3 ladies from Belgium travelling from London to Dover

21 March 2015 - 11:06pm
its a real shame as it is a very pleasant ride. But now if I want to get to Shorne fort I take one of the 2 short foot paths that leave the parallel road and cross the rail way line. - lots of blackberries last time I looked on one of the longer paths

Re: Tour of Brittany

21 March 2015 - 10:51pm
Thanks so much for all the information and suggestions. I had initially favoured the voie verges (I think that's how it's spelt!), but I like the idea of getting the train west. Looks like the wife has lost her bike for a week too.

Re: Handlebar bag views and costs

21 March 2015 - 10:27pm
The fabric is plastic coated and the construction is welded, so I'd be quite confident that it is waterproof, as long as the rim of the front opening lid is deep enough to stop driving rain. If the conflict with the Garmin etrex could be overcome, I'd be very pleased with it. I don't discredit the overall design; it's just my personal requirements.

My old bar bag was/is a Super C and that had conflict with the STI levers and the exit of the gear cables. I used V brake noodles and they just clear the bag sides. Wide handlebars would help, but I don't want to replace my bars for the bags sake, as I like narrower bars (although they are 44cm overall at the tops).

I was toying with the idea of moving the clamp backing plate further down the bag - quite doable, by covering up the old holes with a plastic plate then bolting or riveting the bracket/plate. Ironically, I could overcome the problems of the New Looxs bag with the same fix, which is not what I wanted to have to do, even if I only spent £20.

New Looxs is a Dutch brand I think. I think it's a daft name, but I wouldn't be put off a name for that price! A bit of iron on reflective tape would sort the loox

Re: NCN Routes 62 and 67 on a tandem?

21 March 2015 - 10:23pm
most of the transpenine way barriers are squeeze type not chicanes. But its not a thrilling ride as its very littered consibrough to barnsley and there is lots of broken glass etc as ive ridden this tonight.

regards lee

Re: Reducing pannier weight

21 March 2015 - 9:48pm
334g, packs up really small, drys in no time, plenty of pockets, trousers and shorts in one, not that 'skinny' fashion so you don't look ridiculous and doesn't cost a fortune either.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00CXKYTGQ/ ... dvb1NQF7BZ

Re: Reducing pannier weight

21 March 2015 - 8:39pm
Mountain warehouse do some good stuff.

Baggy long synthetic shorts.

Good number of pockets.

Indestructible, comfy, dry in no time - in suitable climes fine on or off the bike.

Re: Reducing pannier weight

21 March 2015 - 8:00pm
To the OP - there was a thread a while ago entitled 'items with double use' which you might find helpful Not sure how to insert a link but it comes up if you search.

As others have mentioned, comfort levels are very subjective and it takes a few trips to work out what suits you best. For my second camping trip I ditched the microfibre towel and used one of my shirts. Light, quick dry shirts and trousers are a boon, as are mesh stuff sacks to put them in for air drying on the bike rack.

I personally prefer merino wool base layers - as well as being light and quick drying, they stay warm when wet. There are lots of similarities between backpacking and cycle touring, but windchill is worse on a bike, and I find synthetic clothes much less comfortable when wet from rain/sweat.

Re: Chainstays too short?

21 March 2015 - 7:37pm
Carradice camper longflap saddlebag? Very spacious and you could use it with their SQR system for easy removal. I've toured twice with a longflap saddlebag on a small mountain bike with short chainstays – very stable handling and much easier to negotiate barriers than panniers. Having said that, I still couldn't resist getting a Thorn .

Re: Handlebar bag views and costs

21 March 2015 - 7:13pm
Has anyone had use of this handlebar bag? Creprello your noted flaws though sounding annoying wouldn't affect a non garmin user and bar end shifters bike so I'd be interested in this. 20 pound seems a steal though maybe its waterproofness could be tested? Never heard of New Looxs either.

Re: Chainstays too short?

21 March 2015 - 6:18pm
Useful input/suggestions. It may be doable, yet. That pic of the Koga with all the fancy suspended luggage just shouts $$$. Criminal magnet.

Re: 3 ladies from Belgium travelling from London to Dover

21 March 2015 - 6:10pm
There was considerable work to the path in 2011 including a change to the type of barriers.

The path's current surface is made from crushed road stone and was laid in March 2011. The degree of crushing was somewhat variable. Opinions differ locally as to whether the wrong grade of stone was used or whether an intended top-surface was never laid. In either case the resulting surface was widely considered extremely uncomfortable to ride on.

The stretch from Gravesend to Shornemead crossing is wide enough for motor vehicles. It is regularly used by 4x4s providing security for the adjacent firing range and sees less frequent use by Railtrack, National Grid and RSPB as access to their own sites along the route. It also sees illegal use by other vehicles since the padlock on the Gravesend gate was removed around September 2013.

Whilst the vehicular use has provided some additional compression of the surface it remains rough and uncomfortable and has become severely potholed.

Sustrans do not consider the surface to be suitable for road bikes. It's part of my regular commuting route on 700x28s without suspension, I'll be switching to 700x32s when they wear out.

If anything the path has probably deteriorated since mercalia's last visit.

The shorter and narrower stretch from Shornemead to Higham did receive a top dressing of a much more finely graded material. It was applied somewhat unevenly and has washed away in parts but is still a much more comfortable section to ride.

Re: 3 ladies from Belgium travelling from London to Dover

21 March 2015 - 5:27pm
Sweep wrote:Hi mercalia

I was on a hybrid with 37 or 38mm tyres, no suspension, and found it fine from that point of view.

Barriers best avoided though, i agree.

Well I rode on it late last summer and didnt like it maybe they had put more rough core after you used it. some bits just hard earth ok.it was the later bits after Shorne fort.

Re: 3 ladies from Belgium travelling from London to Dover

21 March 2015 - 2:21pm
Do NOT consider NCN17 Pilgrims Cycle Trail from Rochester to Canterbury (unless you enjoy mud in huge quantities and lifting loaded bikes through horse stiles).

Re: 3 ladies from Belgium travelling from London to Dover

21 March 2015 - 2:08pm
My detailed knowledge of NCN1 stretches from Dartford to Rainham. I've a passing familiarity with it to Sittingbourne, Faversham and Canterbury. Since we are discussing barriers.

NCN1 from Erith to Dartford has at least one (probably two) of these:

Possibly the most impenetrable barrier I've ever come across.

NCN1 from Gravesend to Higham has three of these:

The gate beside the one at the Gravesend end is always unlocked and can be opened instead of negotiating the barrier. The middle one (pictured) may/may not be by-passable depending on the state of amateur repairs to the adjacent fencing. The gate by the Higham end is usually locked (unlocked last Wednesday, probably forced, might not be fixed by May).
NCN1 from Gillingham to Rainham has twelve of the above type plus a couple of "P" frames for good measure. If you can negotiate the "A" frames the "P"s won't be a problem.

NCN177 is a very useful shortcut but it's much noisier. It has seven of these:

Two can be bypassed with a short stretch of road.

Re: 3 ladies from Belgium travelling from London to Dover

21 March 2015 - 1:18pm
Hi mercalia

I was on a hybrid with 37 or 38mm tyres, no suspension, and found it fine from that point of view.

Barriers best avoided though, i agree.

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