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Re: Cycle Touring Festival Clitheroe

22 January 2015 - 4:39pm
Sweep wrote:By the way, since it was referred go above, do the girl guides still own waddow hall? They did when i was a kid and in fact years later i worked with someone from the south coast who had been there. But i had the impression, the world being what it is, that they had sold it years ago to something a bit posher than mucky guides. Or did they sublet it?
Their website is very much Guide branded: http://www.waddow.org.uk/about_us.aspx

As a long term member of both the Scout Association and YHA (though not the Guides for obvious reasons), I think the strength of a lot of these organisations lies in some of the wonderful places they own. Many of which were donated in the last century or sold at a discounted rate. It would be a shame to lose that.

Re: accommodation

22 January 2015 - 4:01pm
Another advantage of booking online is that often there are cashback discounts in addition to the lower prices available in advance. - Sites like TopCashback can offer generous terms, and hotel sites like booking.com, hotels.com and expedia seem to be particularly good for this, regularly paying 10-12%. I've earned over £1000 in the last 3-4 years, which you can just 'cash in' to your bank account when it becomes payable. You go to the TCB website, click the link to the merchant, it forwards you to the site, something magic happens with cookies and bingo, you get a credit for what you've spent.

If you want to try it, cheekily, do it via this link and if you register it will pay me an introduction kickback as well as anything you earn!

Re: Maps for cycling in Italy ? - North to South

22 January 2015 - 3:45pm
I was cycling across Italy a couple of months ago. Like every country, petrol stations sell good fold-out road maps. I cycled across the top (Venice to Turin) and found a single map covering the north. I think it was €4 or something, and had every road marked and main tourist sites.


Re: bikes on Europe trains

22 January 2015 - 3:40pm
Taking a train is probably going to be quite a bit more expensive than flying, I am going to Pisa soon for 90 return with BA, that includes bike.

Re: Cycle Touring Festival Clitheroe

22 January 2015 - 2:17pm
As you are not sure what the take up of people will be, why not charge simply for the camping + say £20pp (we have attended canoeing events where this happens and a few hundred people turn up and simply pay the campsite who in turn lay on a free marquee & bar paid by from a full campsite & bar takings). Cancel the catering, groups who know each other may want to combine for meal making, otherwise we all have cooking kit so expense 1 removed. Not sure what the 1,000's of pounds are needed for, advertising costs - nil (this forum is your best advertising with also say CGOAB) and talks given by volunteers. Then from a start of the first festival you could work out exactly which direction to go in and where money would make improvements. For myself & wife to attend @ £150 + travel from south of England this would knock £250 out of my touring fund so we are now unlikely to attend and I gauge so far more negative than positive publicity has been generated. Maybe if people could see where the budget is going they could suggest or offer ways to reduce it, for example you might want to spend £300 on printed flyers which as a printer I could point you in the direction of the same thing for £65. There are probably people reading this from every occupation imaginable who could source everything you will need (insurance, A/V equipment etc ) and at much lower costs. Regards John

Re: Maps for cycling in Italy ? - North to South

22 January 2015 - 2:14pm
RodWatts wrote:As for maps I would thoroughly recommend the Touring Club Italiano maps, they're 1:200,000 and show every back road you could possibly ride down.
This isn't true in my experience. In fact I think this has come up in other threads. They are passable maps though, and i agree about the handy plasticy finish. Yes, Stanfords is great - have spent many an hour in there and still do. They are very tolerant of folk "browsing" .

I think they do a CTC discount. Ditto lccc.

Re: Cycle Touring Festival Clitheroe

22 January 2015 - 2:08pm
All the best with the event laura

By the way, since it was referred go above, do the girl guides still own waddow hall? They did when i was a kid and in fact years later i worked with someone from the south coast who had been there. But i had the impression, the world being what it is, that they had sold it years ago to something a bit posher than mucky guides. Or did they sublet it?

Re: bikes on Europe trains

22 January 2015 - 1:51pm
The best way to find a bike-friendly train route is to use the timetables on the bahn.co.uk website: tick the option for 'bicycle carriage required', and it will filter out the trains (mostly the high-speed ones) which won't take a bike (or will take only bagged bikes). The 'Man in Seat 61' website is a good source of information on bicycle rules on the various European railways (and advice on how to go about reserving a bike space).

Taking a bike on Eurostar is actually straightforward, as long as you're heading to (or from) Paris or Brussels: you need to book a space (and pay £30), but the system works very efficiently. Details here: http://www.eurostar.com/uk-en/travel-in ... e-eurostar

Re: bikes on Europe trains

22 January 2015 - 1:22pm
I caught some local trains in the region Piombino to Pisa. just bought a ticket for me and the bike wheeled it on it was very good value. However, I got to and from Pisa with Easyjet. Also very simple, took off the wheels and pedals turned the bars around ( on my old CB) and put it in a cardboard box

Re: Dublin to Dingle Route

22 January 2015 - 1:01pm
Thanks for reply and sounds very sensible but we have to start at the Guinness brewery as we are calling the ride G2G- " Guinness to Gin" ...... There is a recommended Gin distillery in Dingle at the end. Sets the tone for the ride........

bikes on Europe trains

22 January 2015 - 12:38pm
I intend to travel by train to Siena from London to attend L'Eroica. super tight budget with the intention of camping somewhere close to Gaiole all with my aging CB which all things considering I'm not too keen on taking apart to bag up. Anyone have experiences like this? I'm guessing eurostar will be the more annoying.

Re: Bike suitability for a particular interior road in Icela

22 January 2015 - 12:33pm
I have a couple of cycling contacts in Iceland, one being a mtb club there, if you like.

Re: Dublin to Dingle Route

21 January 2015 - 10:24pm
Does your starting point have to be Dublin? My concern would not be a large group cycling on quiet country roads but rather getting yourselves out of central Dublin and through the sprawling suburbs. Would somewhere on the SW outskirts (possibly with a rail station) be a better bet.
Lovely idea, by the way

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

21 January 2015 - 8:31pm
Whilst I understand your desire to "pile on the miles" you should be aware that there are "things!" on Anglesey that really should be seen.
There are, all over the island, many interesting buildings and much history.
On the west coast there are two extremely fine and impressive neolithic burial chambers, Barclodiad y Gawres and Bryn Gelli Du.
A quick internet search will tell you much!
They are a view into a far distant human past and endeavour, both in striking locations, and you will not forget them if you should find the time to visit them! Happy trails.

Re: Touring in Norway

21 January 2015 - 8:29pm
cycletourer wrote:Thanks vorpal for that information . I have always wondered why the tunnels didn't come out with their colours. It is a shame that when you go direct into the 'vegkart' there isn't a link to the 'vegkart-query' or perhaps I'm I missing something.
No. Once you're in the vegkart, you can only search on one criteria at a time (e.g. sykkelforbud = ja)

Re: Cycle Touring Festival Clitheroe

21 January 2015 - 7:56pm
One more thing now I'm at home and not surreptitiously writing on here at work...

We were really unsure what demand would be like for the festival (I think someone said something to this effect higher up, doubting how popular it would be). This means we only booked a small-ish venue - although there is a ton of camping space, space indoors (for talks etc) is not huge - so the number of tickets available is very limited. Cycle touring is still so niche, unfortunately!

Although the smaller scale will be better (I think) for building a sense of community at the event, it does mean we don't benefit from the economies of scale that other events do, nor can we attract huge numbers of exhibitors all paying to be there. 1000 people all paying £20 bring in a huge amount - far more than 100 people paying £75 - so again it isn't that helpful to compare ourselves against e.g. the York Rally which will deal with more than just touring and so undoubtedly attract more people (and I do hope to go to that event as well, it looks great!).

We'll see how this year goes and maybe next year things will work differently, but in the meantime hope to see at least some of you there.

There is still a chance we'll sell day tickets, so make sure you sign up to the mailing list so you'll be the first to know if we do.

Best wishes,

Re: Touring in Norway

21 January 2015 - 7:45pm
botty wrote:I've never cycled in Norway but I have motorcycled. If you are camping note that it can get COLD, even in Summer. On our trip at the end of June it was falling to 3C some nights. However all/most campsites have huts of various levels of luxury that you can hire if you need a rest from the wild camping.

The huts are also useful to allow a bit of drying out. Good/excellent waterproofs, even in the height of summer are a must.

Oh, yes, must add, really good insect repellent would be another must. At least full motorcycle leathers, helmet and gloves keep the midges off and you wont be wearing those on your bike.

The fjord are around Bergen would be an excellent, if hilly, place to explore. Can you still get to Bergen from Newcastle by ferry? That might avoid aeroplane hassles.
Thanks for the advice I've done some research into ferries and it seems you can't get a direct ferry to norway anymore.

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

21 January 2015 - 7:24pm
Its the one place I was thinking of skipping, but I think I'll do a bag-less ride to Holyhead and back to Bangor. High mileage doing that, by the looks of things, but I've got the time.

I am hoping to do a lot of riding this summer out here in CO - mileage is hard to come by though, as no matter which direction I go, I have at least a 1000ft climb (and starting at 8,000ft, its hard enough to breath as it is). BUT it should get me in shape (lung wise)...I'll have to figure out how to do something longer than 30 miles without having to do 12,000 ft of climbing too.

Its looking most likely that I'll be in Chester on the 23rd of July. Day 1 of riding will be the 24th of July. I will post my finalized route here in the next week or so - once I buy my airplane ticket and lock in my dates (I will then be able to lock int he B&B dates too) - so if anyone is in the area around that time of year and would like to join me on the various segments - be my guest!

Dublin to Dingle Route

21 January 2015 - 7:18pm
Has anyone undertaken a Dublin to Dingle (via Connor Pass) tour?
We are a group of 16 friends ( Men and Women) planning to undertake this tour in September we are of average to good ability with age ranges 45 - 62. We have undertaken an annual long distance tour for last few years.
We have 4 days to complete the trip so need a fairly direct route but avoiding main roads. I have found route sections from various sources but not a complete route.
I have been to Dingle many times but in a car so appreciate the very narrow lanes may not be suitable for a large cycle group.

Would appreciate any advice about suitable routes.

Re: Maps for cycling in Italy ? - North to South

21 January 2015 - 5:17pm
Yep, Stanfords is where you need to look.


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