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Re: Is there an app that replaces a Garmin?

23 March 2015 - 9:42pm
I like Maverick (on Android). Free Ordnance Survey (and lots of other) mapping, 1:50 and 1:25k, downloadable before you go, though maybe only with the paid for version of the app, which is just a few pounds. Will allow you to follow a track in standard gpx format in the same way as a dedicated gps but with a much nicer display. So just weather proofing and battery life to fix relative to an etrex, neither of which is insurmountable.

Re: Is there an app that replaces a Garmin?

23 March 2015 - 9:34pm
I Like Osmand~ on Android, which can do offline display and route calculation if you let it download the right files.

Re: cycling video collection of ascents:Alps, Pyrenées,Canar

23 March 2015 - 7:57pm
Hello !
I'm happy to share another cycling video about an alpine ascent; I introduce Sölden - Hochsölden (2089 m) climb to the cyclists.

It is situated in Tirol, Austria, just next to the famous ascent of Ötztaler gletscherstrasse (2829 m).
It is 6,3 km long wth 10,4% avg. steepness. At the end of the climb, Hochsölden there is great, panoramic meadow with a restaurant and a playground for the children. It is an ideal place for the family too.
Thanks for watching the video

PS: With the following video (Bielerhöhe) all of the austrian climbs finishing above 2000 m would be found in my video collection

Best regards,

Re: NCN Routes 62 and 67 on a tandem?

23 March 2015 - 7:37pm
gaz wrote:Edit: I've flagged the query up to the Volunteer Co-ordinator for the area (at least I think I got the right one) to see if he can get a Ranger to respond.
Hi Gaz,

There are two sections on that stretch of the NCN that are very likely to cause you problems on a tandem.

1) There’s an interim section of route on the edge of Barnsley near Carlton Marsh Nature reserve which is narrow and poorly surfaced. (we keep expecting the parallel railway line to become disused… it has one train a week…)

2) There’s a steep stepped bridge with a wheeling ramp in order to cross the River Calder just north of the village of Heath near Wakefield.

Most of the route is surprisingly rural, running on well made, but unsurfaced paths through nature reserves, country parks, alongside disused canals and former railway lines in a post industrial landscape. One of favourite bits of NCN follows the towpath of the former Barnsley Canal near Royston. If the weather has been persistently bad then there’s a risk of mud, swamps and rutting on route, but usually you’d be alright. There’s also a persistent problem of broken glass on the tarmaced / urban bits of the route…

Monk Bretton Priory, Sandal Castle and the Hepworth Gallery are all worth a visit and are all easily accessible by bike from the NCN using cycle routes. The pub in Heath comes recommended, as does the café in Anglers Country Park. You can also link across to the West Yorkshire Sculpture Park (you get in free if you arrive by bike) by following the West Yorkshire Cycle Way – although I don’t know how well maintained those signs are.
I don't have any local knowledge so I don't know how much of that makes sense and/or applies to your route.

Re: Is there an app that replaces a Garmin?

23 March 2015 - 5:47pm
just an idea, but... you don't actually need the map, if all you are doing is following a pre-loaded route. disabling (or not even loading) the maps makes following a route much easier, as the 'show on map' (Garmin) line is clearest when there's no visual interference from streets, roads, etc. I normally carry a paper map to know where I am, and for interests sake, but the mapless* Etrex30 for following a route. I have the map scale set to 300m, which is enough to determine the details of the route turns.

I agree with the above that the Etrex series are about the best touring Garmin devices.

* I have maps on the Etrex, but have them switched off normally. Saves a bit of power.

Re: Is there an app that replaces a Garmin?

23 March 2015 - 1:00pm
Mick F wrote:Sweep wrote:I'd get an Etrex 20 .............. I'd put money on it lasting longer than your iphone which as far as I can see is the apotheosis of built-in obsolescence.Excellent advice.
This is the way forward for anyone wanting GPS but afraid to dip their feet very far into the water.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Garmin-eTrex-Ou ... s=etrex+20

That's a great price Mick F - I''d encourage anyone to go for it.

Re: Tour de Manche

23 March 2015 - 11:57am
It maybe that our 4 day itinerary might suit you better Beekeeper:

Plymouth > Okehampton 67km
Okehampton > Sidmouth 72km
Sidmouth > Dorchester 88km
Dorchester > Poole 57km

Do let us know how you get on.


Re: Safe routes in to central Lugano & Milan

23 March 2015 - 8:49am
Thanks for the suggestions so far. Have spent a good few evenings planning /studying with the help of Google Street view. Obviously I'll keep an eye out for further replies! Thanks, David

Re: Is there an app that replaces a Garmin?

23 March 2015 - 8:39am
+1 for Pocket Earth, I was using it this morning, it'll do what you want at a reasonable cost. The co-rider app has an export function which will send GPX files to Pocket Earth or you can email a route to yourself and import it into Pocket Earth.

Re: Garmin Edge Touring

23 March 2015 - 8:25am
^^^ True. I have an 800 with 4 map sets on it.

For Europe http://www.openfietsmap.nl/ has a better appearance than OSM (for me) and shows cycle tracks etc. All of Europe is on 3 files, Western Europe is one file and covers France/Spain/Portugal/Belgium/Holland http://www.openfietsmap.nl/downloads/europe Free to download.

Garmin Edge Touring

23 March 2015 - 8:23am
Ps, how do you pm on Taptalk? !!!!
Ignore this, now found, not terrible intuitive!

Re: Garmin Edge Touring

23 March 2015 - 8:20am
Thanks both, I'll pm you my email address Rob

Re: Garmin Edge Touring

23 March 2015 - 7:45am
I don't think the file naming is an issue on newer garmins. I have an 800 and an etrex20 with several maps. I can't check at the moment, but think they just need the same file extension .img

Re: Safe routes in to central Lugano & Milan

23 March 2015 - 5:45am
I'm not from that area, but a really popular route for bikers from Milan to Ghisallo is the following:


Check the table below "tabella del percorso". It is not a cycling path, but many bikers cycle along that route, so I suppose it is quite nice and calm

Re: Is there an app that replaces a Garmin?

23 March 2015 - 2:19am
I have an iPhone but not a GPS. I am using an app called Pocket Earth. It costs a couple dollars and let's you download maps for use off-line. I've used it in the U.S., UK, Germany and Italy. All maps downloaded free. I download the maps when I have wifi, usually at home before I go.

It also uses the phone's GPS, as long as the phone is not in airplane mode. That is, it will tell you where you are on a map without any internet connection. This connects the iPhone up to the local network but there are no charges unless you actually answer or make a phone call.

Since the GPS drains the phone's power quickly, I don't leave it on unless I need to decided which turn to make. It doesn't give turn by turn directions.

I wrote an article about my recent experience with the app, if anyone is interested.

Re: Garmin Edge Touring

22 March 2015 - 10:46pm
I wouldn't waste money on the Garmin maps.

The stuff here https://www.velomap.org/ is pretty good - and free. I've dowloaded a load of maps for our tour this June which takes in France, Luxembourg, Germany, a little bit of Holland, and Belgium.

It's a bit of a fiddle if you need more than one country (you'll need separate SD cards for each one as the filenames are all the same in the Garmin ... but SDs are cheap as chips nowdays)

To save the hassle of downloading if you PM me I can send you, say, the France file


Re: Getting contours on OSM of Italy for Garmin

22 March 2015 - 9:58pm
when i was looking about a year ago, contour maps for garmin (outside of the garmin maps product) are only available from the guy at openmtbmap.org - he adds features to the openstreetmap maps & sells the product.
Great site. guy has put in a ton of work. well worth the subscription fee.
We used it on a recent tour through southeast asia. We didnt do route planning in a big way here, but it became REALLY handy when we realized we could plug in the day's final location into the garmin (etrex 30) & tell it to "autoroute" to it. One of the screens on the garmin (i forget which) gives you the full altitude profile of the day's route!! very cool. As we found out on a couple of demoralizing instances, it's not exact to within more than a km or so, but excellent to get an idea of the day's route.
I assume within garmin basecamp on your laptop you can do some pretty handy route planning through there too.

couple of links:
* here's is openmtbmaps dot org on how to do autorouting:

* here's openmtbmaps again at the main page, do a search for "contour" to get some info:

* one other option is map2mapc which can apparently be used to digitize your paper maps, then geo-locate them & then put them on your garmin. ended up being way too complicated for me.

lastly, a couple of tips:
* make sure you have a fat internet connection as the contour maps are done by region and are HUGE (multiple Gigs). Once they're in basecamp, you can select the smaller map area and save it to the device
* make sure you buy an sd memory card for the garmin & save the maps onto that bcos the main memory wont be big enough.
* transfer the maps onto the sd card by plugging it directly into your computer. Dont leave the SD card in the garmin & attach the garmin by usb cable to the PC - it will take forever.

Garmin Edge Touring

22 March 2015 - 9:53pm
Hi, I have this to help navigate us through France. It comes loaded with open street maps and unsure whether I need to buy the full Garmin Navigator maps.
I've used in the UK and find it a bit challenging as not all roads are shown!
Any advice?

Best saddle for touring

22 March 2015 - 9:48pm
Psamathe wrote:thayer19 wrote:The C17 looks a great saddle, I'd be interested to hear people's feedback as I've heard the textured material on top tears through shorts and the saddle acts a kin to a trampoline when going over bumps? Is this a myth? It looks a great saddle so I hope this isn't the case as I'd be interested to switch over to it.
I've got a C15 and I'm unsure (after 800 miles). It certainly is not what I would call a trampoline; pretty firm compared to my previous saddle My bum is certainly suffering (bruised sit bones). I'm persevering, hoping my bum will acclimatise (and that itr is taking time is not surprising me). I also wear Endura Humvee (mostly) so I would not expect to see wear on them. I've use my "normal" lycra shorts less often so too soon to see wear. My previous saddle included some padding and with the C15 I've noticed my shorts with thinner padding are worse, thicker padded shorts easier. So I'm switching to some good gel padded shorts which is making things easier.


I'm a C17 groupie. I'm pretty muscular, short and about 70kg to give you a comparison if you are shaped otherwise. About 6 months use and no bruising or trampolining. When I first sat on this saddle I was surprised at the firmness and initially a bit worried. I find my saddle works best with a slight 'nose up' angle as it averages out at fairly horizontal when you sit on it. Firmness seems the same now as it was on day 1 and as far as I'm aware no breaking in has occurred or has needed to as this is a 'ready to ride' saddle. The texturised saddle has the right balance. You don't slip about but if you need to move you aren't velcroed in. I also haven't had any wear on my clothes, but I'm not a Lycra clad cyclist.

In summary this saddle is there but I don't notice it. I would buy the same for a second or winter bike as it is all weather and maintenance free.

It's a vegan option too.

Does that help?

Re: NCN Routes 62 and 67 on a tandem?

22 March 2015 - 9:40pm
I had a bit of a ride on Route 67 today but only from Stanley as far as just short of Royston. The only barriers I came across were the tall ones that slope inwards as they rise, which I've always managed to get through with panniers.

The route is largely surfaced with hardcore and was bone dry today. The sections along the old Barnsley canal should be fine on the tandem. There are a couple of sections on quietish roads.

Though I didn't get that far, I seem to remember the route through Cudworth being mainly on the road. That may have changed in recent years.

Finally, there's a bridge with steps as you get close to Stanley, but there's a bicycle ramp on the stairs which you should be able to push the bike up.

All in all, weather permitting, a pleasant ride.

Hope that's of some use and good luck with the planning and the riding.


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