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Sustrans routes GPS

3 hours 58 min ago
Are Sustrans routes, including the Trans Pennine route for road bikes, available for GPS? The Sustrans website provides no information.


Re: Avenue Verte GPX route

5 hours 8 min ago
I was surprised to find that in sussex the roads were overhung with trees for such long stretches. The gps couldn't keep up and I'd have to pause for a fix. Different route I'm afraid.

Re: Garmin Tour mapping

5 hours 39 min ago
I have been really dissapointed with mine, the edge touring plus comes with open street map, and even if you put road only it decides very narrow or bad dirt tracks are roads apparently because open street map is contributed too.

It drives me insane such that I am going to get rid of it: You can plot a route to go down an A road and it will want you to go anywhere but on the A road it doesn't really recognise your route. I have tried all the different settings etc.. all I can say is the most disapointing unsuited gps I have ever bought, my phone with co-pilot does a far better job!

great for showing a track across a wood but actually following a route that is on a road that you specified I am pretty sure if I tried to get it to navigate to the end of my road it would try and take me through the neighbors gardens rather than go on an actual road.

sorry to be so negative, but the worst money I have ever spent.

Ohh and I just fired off another support request to Garmin so I will see what amusing thing they want me to do now, reinstall my PC most likely.

Re: Garmin Tour mapping

5 hours 56 min ago
Personally I wouldn't dream of handing over navigation decisions to any Garmin (or any other make).
I'm not familiar with Edge models, but I would expect them to produce more or less "efficient" routes, minimising this, avoiding those - but if you want to go a mile out of the direct line to see something you are going to have to enter that location as a waypoint - which implies that you are going to have to research and plan your journey yourself, and use something like Basecamp to prepare a gpx file of the track. Tracks are not interactive. They are simply lines drawn on a map. A gps will show you the line, and show you your position. It remains your responsibility to follow that line. And in my opinion that is by far the be3st to use these devices.
Having said that, my GPS62s came with a Navigator map as standard. If I was trying to find my way to an address in a strange city I would unhesitatingly select that map and give the machine its head. It would undoubtedly find the place and guide me round any one way systems along the way. Urban use is where they can be excellent. Outside that, when I am the motive power, I require more control.
Come on. Preparation is the best bit, isn't it?

As for unexpected developments etc. I guess, at a pinch, I might try the routing function to reach the days destination, but to be honest, I usually try to have some sort of paper map to hand and I would prefer to use that for strategic navigation, letting the gps dot the i's and cross the t's.

Re: Experience of La Vélodyssée/ Eurovelo 1

30 January 2015 - 11:52pm
Thanks for the link from me too Beekeeper. I do dip into CGOB from time to time, but had managed not to find your account. We'll be doing an extremely leisurely trip from Bayonne to La Rochelle, just for the sake of the peace and quiet, the birds, the flowers - and the boulangeries
Sounds as if I won't be needing that single wheel trailer after all

A suggestion for you: I noticed your comment about the problems of reversing a track. I have found that one way to cope with this is to use Google Earth Streetview. Half an hours virtual exploration should be enough to sort out any urban one way system. Whether you then modify the gpx or make notes on a card is entirely a matter of choice. HTH

Atlantic to the Med along the Pyrenees, Spanish side, Qs

30 January 2015 - 10:59pm
Hi. me and the family are considering cycling the route from San Sebastian/Irun on the Atlantic side across to the Med, running parallel with the Spanish border at the beginning of July. There is a route in the Cicerone Spanish Touring book that looks hopeful but I haven't seen it yet - has anyone done the route? Any advice or ideas welcome. Some other people posting have suggested that camping isn't much of an option - are there enough places to stay? How feasible is wild camping? Cheers!

Re: Experience of La Vélodyssée/ Eurovelo 1

30 January 2015 - 10:57pm
Thanks for the link Beekeeper. I enjoyed going through your account. How did you get so many blue sky pictures? I was going South on the route (Or parts of it) and there was plenty of cold wind, cloud and rain from around 11/5 onward, culminating in torrential rain and thunderstorms on 17th and 18th. Not much sunshine. Definitely a relief to finish!

Re: Garmin Tour mapping

30 January 2015 - 10:45pm
Did you buy one with or without maps?

Re: Experience of La Vélodyssée/ Eurovelo 1

30 January 2015 - 10:13pm
This is our account of our trip two years ago. We went in June and there was a lot to see, Avocets and other waders with young, orchids in bloom, lots to see but some might find it boring! http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/France2013

Garmin Tour mapping

30 January 2015 - 9:58pm
I have just bought a Garmin Edge Touring Plus and am wondering how good are the routings that are supplied on the unit, for the average tourist. Does anyone know what the criteria is for those routes? The device does provide some 'minimising' options including altitude for offered routes but it would be difficult to really judge the Garmin-designed route in its entirety as it is presented on the screen. I ask this because while it might be best if one could spend time custom making a route before starting a tour, that might not be possible. Or something else might mean that after you have set off, perhaps days later, unexpected opportunities or circumstances might require you need to modify things. Advice would be very much appreciated.


Re: Bordeaux to Narbonne

30 January 2015 - 9:54pm
Last year we rode a stretch from Bordeaux to the med - although we avoided Narbonne we got as far as Lezignan-Corbieres which is quite close by.

The Canal de Garonne from Bordeaux to Toulouse is easily rideable although the outskirts of Toulouse are a bit confusing. A good map will make it easier but isn't essential.

The Midi from Toulouse to, I believe, Lauragais is rideable (tarmac) but we only went as far as Gardouch maybe 10km before Lauragais. It was suitable for 28c slicks and not at all lumpy. After that things take a turn for the worse. It will be slow going and uncomfortable even with wide tyres, especially with a touring load. You'll make much better progress on the roads IME.

If you're interested we covered it on days 1-11 of our Crazyguyblog: https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?o=1&doc_id=14010

The region is great for cycling and you'll have a fantastic time. The camping municipal at Carcassonne is definitely worth a visit!


30 January 2015 - 7:42pm
Can anybody recommend any good 1 day circular rides near Amsterdam and vicinity ? Thanks.

Eurovelo 15

30 January 2015 - 6:50pm
Has anybody cycled the section from cologne to Arnhem? What's it like I.e. is it quite rural (apart from the obvious cities like cologne and Düsseldorf). The eurovelo website claims its the 'industrial heartland of Europe' .... Not much of an advert!

Re: Avenue Verte GPX route

30 January 2015 - 6:38pm
Hi Many Bikes,
Yup that's what I'll do. It's a good way to familiarise with the route anyhow. The charity ride will have around 50 riders and about 6 guides, a few of whom may have GPS and the rest the Sustrans guide so it would be good to be following the same route.



Re: Avenue Verte GPX route

30 January 2015 - 6:14pm
The definitive one is the one you make up at home at leisure from the maps in the booklet. That is what I had to do.

Re: Touring Asia

30 January 2015 - 2:30pm
I agree, I spent about 3 weeks cycling in N of Guilin in Guangxi and it was some of the most interesting cycling I have done. Genuine minority people in traditional attire, not just for the tourists. Wonderful old wooden towns, but some serious hills made all the worse by the dreaded 'road under construction'.

When route planning one thing worth looking for is where a new motorway runs parallel with an old style highway. All the major traffic goes on the motorway and you have the old highway virtually to yourself. Still plenty of services and towns with accom, but no traffic. I rode for days on a couple of these across the south and from Kunming to Lao border.

Re: Bordeaux to Narbonne

30 January 2015 - 12:51pm
Hello Tina -

Annie and I cycle-camped from the UK to the Med last year, including the section you are asking about.

We kept a blog with references to the track and camp-sites, and if you want to have a look, the link is below.

We are sure you will have a great trip. Go for it!

Best wishes -

Brian & Annie


Re: Bordeaux to Narbonne

30 January 2015 - 11:43am
Great stuff thats all I really needed to know.
We plan to use the route as our main trip and camp up and make detours off to the side will be using tourers so can handle a bit of rough stuff just full kit would be too much if the route is too 'rustic'. Found some very 'rustic' sustrans routes in Norfolk a few years ago - barely passable on a loaded tourer.


Re: Touring Asia

30 January 2015 - 11:22am
simonhill wrote:My cycling in China has only been in the South, mainly Yunnan. I suspect the reason you can't find much about your route is that it is not a favoured area for cycling. The East coast and inland is the most densley populated, most industrial, etc, etc in China.

Most cyclist seem to prefer Chengdu and west, with Yunnan being a favourite. Others are coming or going to the Stans overland route and so are also more to the west.

Guangxi is nevertheless a mountainous further inland, with many famous landscapes, though Guilin to the north has more of this. Hunan also includes famous mountainous sights like Wulingyuan in the Wuling mountains. Hubei similarly has some mountains. Thus one can be travelling through attractive mountainous landscapes without going so deep inland, once you've got across the north China plain (eg Henan). And given the broad curve of the Chinese coastline going so far inland is a broadly direct cycling route from Beijing to the Vietnamese border. Though there will also be some flatter agricultural basins to cross, though you can limit this by bending a little further west.

Re: Touring Asia

30 January 2015 - 8:05am



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