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Re: TOURING 2015

1 hour 45 min ago
Molzor, sounds like you followed the Velodyssey route to some extent, as I did. Didn't quite reach Spain but have cycled there before from Santander into the Picos and agree it's fairly hilly. Makes it more interesting though! I found the route along the Nante-Brest canal a bit boring at times, so it was good to deviate and look around a bit.

Re: Touring wheels

3 hours 12 min ago
no never broken a spoke, but i dont really fancy it happening! i was using 28mm tyres before but apparently theres room for 32s with no mud guards. i guess this would be fine in the warmer months. do you think this would be a worthwhile swap?

Re: Touring wheels

4 hours 37 min ago
Have you ever broken a spoke?

I have 32 spokes on my hybrid wheels, and they were 20 years old before I broke any spokes on them. At the time, I was often carrying a child on the back, as well as my weight, and sometimes the shopping.

What size tyres do you use & what size will your rims/bike take? You might gain more with wider tyres.

Re: Touring wheels

5 hours 4 min ago
no im only a light weight, 9stone mark. and i try to keep it reasonably light but obviously a tent sleeping bag clothes stove etc does add up a bit. maybe im being over cautious, i dont know.

Re: TOURING 2015

5 hours 13 min ago
Last summer i did a ride down west france and to santander and it was lovely. I was on the pilgrim route for a lot of the way, but word of warning. nowhere, and i mean nowhere in northern spain is flat. its up down up down. beautiful landscapes but the ability to switch off brain and turn on climbing mode can come in useful. i found myself decending really slow because i knew there would only be another climb to come!

Re: Touring wheels

5 hours 38 min ago
32 spokes is a pretty strong wheel. Unless you are very heavy, or carrying an exceptional amount of kit, it should be good enough for touring most places in Europe and North America.

Touring wheels

5 hours 56 min ago
does anyone have any recommendations for me on some good touring wheels at a reasonble price?

i have a kona honky tonk 2013, i love it, but i would like to kit it out a bit better for touring in the summer.

Last year i did a lovely route down the west coast of france into northern spain without too much difficulty, although the spanish mountains were quite a challenge on what is more or less a road bike with panniers! I have changed the gearing a bit now to help with the hills, but I am thinking about a stronger set of wheels. I got away with 32 spokes last time but would like that extra bit of security really.

Re: Default tourer?

7 hours 24 min ago
I have been following this thread because I have an LHT. My comments are half way down page 2.

I find it all rather amusing with people doing all the comparisons. Unfortunately this is a luxury that many (most) of us can't do. I don't have a stock of bikes in my shed, so can't say how they compare to an LHT. I think the majority of people are in my situation. I chose this bike based on recommendations and now ride it. Maybe if I trawled the bike shops and got them to lend me different bikes for short tours I would find my bike is rubbish and would change it.

As far as I am concerned it seems OK to me. As I said I have toured on it a lot, I tour for about 5 months a year, then use the bike for local stuff.

Re: Touring and Camping - Campsite POI's

9 hours 49 min ago
A new update of Archie's Camping is available - http://www.archiescampings.eu/eng1/ - and there is a complete new look to this version, as well as the usual updated information and POI's for 30,000 plus campsites throughout Britain and Europe.

Those who have Archie's saved as a 'favourite' will want to change this to go to the new website. Downloads can now be done directly from the home page, and POI's are available for all the Camping Cheque sites and Best Deal sites, for those who have access to the Best Deal App, but unfortunately not yet for the ACSI Card sites.

For those who have a smartphone Archie's is now also available as a App from Google Play.

An earlier post mentions the POI's for Lidl, and supermarkets in Europe - this is also available through Archie's Camping website, and as a PDF version which can be printed off using the link to Parafoeter's page, down in the bottom right hand corner.

Please feel free to post this on any other forums where you think the information may be appreciated.

Re: Default tourer?

9 hours 58 min ago
RonK wrote:reohn2 wrote:So following on from all this speculation,has anyone had an LHT or DT,thought they weren't good bikes and why?
Yes, I had an LHT which was replaced after one tour. Apart from the appalling finish which had rust appearing after only a few months, I found it a dull, unresponsive, unrewarding ride - a real slug.

What did you replace it with?

Re: Default tourer?

14 hours 46 min ago
reohn2 wrote:So following on from all this speculation,has anyone had an LHT or DT,thought they weren't good bikes and why?
Yes, I had an LHT which was replaced after one tour. Apart from the appalling finish which had rust appearing after only a few months, I found it a dull, unresponsive, unrewarding ride - a real slug.

Re: Default tourer?

20 December 2014 - 11:50pm
So following on from all this speculation,has anyone had an LHT or DT,thought they weren't good bikes and why?

Geneva to Nice July / Aug 2015

20 December 2014 - 8:28pm
Wanted – companions – July / August : Fly Geneva, visit Cern, lakes, mountains, gorges and Cols in the Alps and onto to the Monaco, return from Nice. Approximate route https://goo.gl/maps/JPfuz

Camping, 50 to 60 miles per day. Approx 2 weeks and 3 days – late July to early August, approx 800 miles. Covering parts of the Route Napoléon and the Route Des Grandes Alpes
Two to three nights in Geneva, Chamonix Annecy, La Grave, Castellane, Nice.

Geneva, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva
Chamonix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiguille_du_Midi
Morzine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morzine
Annecy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annecy
Vizelle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vizille
Alpe D’Huez http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpe_d%27Huez
Col Du Galibier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col_du_Galibier
Braincon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian%C3%A7on
Castellane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castellane
Gordes Du Verdon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verdon_Gorge
Gorges Du Duluis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorges_de_Daluis
Èze http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eze
Monaco http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco

Cern https://openlab-mu-internal.web.cern.ch ... RN_Access/

Route Napoléon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_Napol%C3%A9on
Route Des Grandes Alpes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_des_Grandes_Alpes


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Re: Cycling to Axbridge from Bristol

20 December 2014 - 7:21pm
I heard about the chocolate path long before Strava started in 2009. Knowing Bristolian humour, I suspect it got that name soon after it was built in the early 1900s, what with Dairy Milk first going on sale around the same time.

Bristol City Council call it by that name AFAIK

Re: Default tourer?

20 December 2014 - 7:16pm
reohn2 wrote:PH wrote: You're right that you don't hear much bad about them. But you can't fail to notice how often they come up for sale second hand. I don't think many people undertake the purchase of a £1,000+ bike lightly and if they're selling it after a short period of time my theory is it must have disappointed them in some way. Maybe not the bikes fault, maybe they didn't realise what they were getting, maybe it didn't turn out to be what they thought. Of course it's only a theory, and there are of course many reasons for selling a bike.
Yes you do see a few for sale,and no doubt there's different reasons for that.But it doesn't mean the bike's a bad one.
There's a lot of people with touring stars in their eyes that are never reached for due to real life realisations.
There are a lot of Galaxy's up for sale too,and whilst the Gal' is an old 'un,you see quite a few newish ones for sale.
I think the innocent explanation is that they are popular. More bought new means more later sold second hand. Same thing with the Galaxies. In fact I'd challenge the earlier statement that Galaxies are no longer the default tourer. Whilst I hardly see lots of tourers I bet I still see more Dawes tourers out and about than LHTs. They may no longer be the enthusiasts' choice but the name still seems to count for something (or maybe there's just enough old ones still hanging around).

Re: Default tourer?

20 December 2014 - 6:16pm
mrjemm wrote:I do think if I had no bikes already and wanted something for a prolonged bike trip, a 26" trucker would be likely my 1st investigation. As it stands my Vaya is No1 bike, while my Orange P7 (not much P7 left, but...) is my 26" toy, and very close in nature to a 26" LHT/DT (has both brake mounts, ).
I can fully understand that reasoning and also understand the reasoning that the 26" DT in anything but small sizes just don't look right,nooo not at all


R2... Wax on my tache? Not a hope! Cheeky feller.
Apparently it's a mark of a true hipster HIPSTER ALERT :-
http://www.firehousemoustachewax.com/Wa ... od__KS.jpg

And I don't think a backwards Tara would work- nothing to stop the panniers flapping about. If you look further into the photobucket you linked to, he shows going between the 2 directions, so perhaps realised his mistake, or was experimenting.
Yes I did see that.

Re: Default tourer?

20 December 2014 - 6:05pm
PH wrote:Am I still in the right thread?
Thread drift happens from time to time
You're right that you don't hear much bad about them. But you can't fail to notice how often they come up for sale second hand. I don't think many people undertake the purchase of a £1,000+ bike lightly and if they're selling it after a short period of time my theory is it must have disappointed them in some way. Maybe not the bikes fault, maybe they didn't realise what they were getting, maybe it didn't turn out to be what they thought. Of course it's only a theory, and there are of course many reasons for selling a bike.
Yes you do see a few for sale,and no doubt there's different reasons for that.But it doesn't mean the bike's a bad one.
There's a lot of people with touring stars in their eyes that are never reached for due to real life realisations.
There are a lot of Galaxy's up for sale too,and whilst the Gal' is an old 'un,you see quite a few newish ones for sale.

If I was in the market for a full on tourer, the LHT would definitely be on the short list, but it wouldn't be there on it's own, I can think of a few other bikes that equally deserve a place.
Care to name a few?

OK... back to the Salsas now...
Well if you must

Re: Default tourer?

20 December 2014 - 5:59pm
mrjemm wrote:
As for the 2nd hand preponderance, I wonder if that's lots of folk having fantasies of quitting the rat race, or even just taking 6 months and going off for an adventure, and then having to face reality.


cycle away into the sunset until they see the storm clouds in the distance...

Re: Default tourer?

20 December 2014 - 5:52pm
I do think if I had no bikes already and wanted something for a prolonged bike trip, a 26" trucker would be likely my 1st investigation. As it stands my Vaya is No1 bike, while my Orange P7 (not much P7 left, but...) is my 26" toy, and very close in nature to a 26" LHT/DT (has both brake mounts, ).

As for the 2nd hand preponderance, I wonder if that's lots of folk having fantasies of quitting the rat race, or even just taking 6 months and going off for an adventure, and then having to face reality.

R2... Wax on my tache? Not a hope! Cheeky feller.

And I don't think a backwards Tara would work- nothing to stop the panniers flapping about. If you look further into the photobucket you linked to, he shows going between the 2 directions, so perhaps realised his mistake, or was experimenting.

Re: TOURING 2015

20 December 2014 - 4:55pm
Wow, some exotic routes and loads of ideas.
That's the problem; plenty of time after Easter next year to travel and loads of possibilities to look at.
Mrs Dodger wants a long trip in the camper, so maybe there's scope for a bit of cycling in between campsites.
I think Northumberland is on the list after Iron Bridge and Skipton, so good scenery.
Back to planning.

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