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Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

47 min 37 sec ago
s_b wrote:The link North of Stavanger was a headache for us last summer. We found the tourist office in Stavanger to be quite useless for cyclists. The staff were mostly foreign students doing summer jobs. They were well-briefed for the common tourist excursions and accommodation but had little local knowledge for the out of the ordinary.

this was exactly my experience, and it turned out the ferry wasn't running (March). I'd suggest getting onto Warm Showers message board, and trying to find someone in Stavanger who many be able to help you out with finding times, etc. I ended up cycling inland via a ferry to Tau, and then round to Bergen.

I was told the E39 tunnel had a cycle ban, and you needed to use a bus.

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

1 hour 13 min ago
The link North of Stavanger was a headache for us last summer. We found the tourist office in Stavanger to be quite useless for cyclists. The staff were mostly foreign students doing summer jobs. They were well-briefed for the common tourist excursions and accommodation but had little local knowledge for the out of the ordinary.
The tourist office gave us a timetable on Friday afternoon for the Stavanger-Kopervik ferry route which, when we were packing up to go on the Saturday morning we found only ran Mon-Fri.
Better than the tourist office is the local travel planning web site which has all modes of transport and is easy to use:
http://reiseplanlegger.kolumbus.no/scripts/TravelMagic/travelmagicwe.dll/?lang=en

Our solution was a ferry to Nedstrand (some are direct, we had to change at one of the islands) then easy, quiet and pleasant ride across towards Haugesund (we headed North at Aksdal). There are commuter passenger ferries that ply the islands which will take bikes - as well as the Norled car ferries.

The Stavanger-Kopervik ferry is no longer running at all (NB the North Sea cycle route web site confirms this information) so you only have 2 options: ferry to Nedstrand, like we did, or put your bike on the bus that goes through the E39 tunnels (the Kystbus)
https://kystbussen.no/kart.aspx
You can't cycle on this part of the E39.
Timetables for both options are on the Kolumbus site above.

You can still get a ferry to Kvitsoy but the next link North to Skudeneshamn was stopped when the new E39 tunnels opened 2 or 3 years ago. You can see that on the Norled maps here:
https://www.norled.no/en/maps-and-schedules/ferry/rogaland

re. the Kystbus (route Stavanger-Bergen with stops in between). They only take bikes on a standby basis, which means they wait to see if they have space in the hold when the other passengers have loaded. This shouldn't be a problem and buses are frequent. On that route at least bikes cost 60% of the adult fare, which is not cheap.

Camp sites are not so frequent but if you're OK with wild camping you'll be fine. Be careful as not all camp sites accept tents. The camp site at Nedstrand, for example, was a residential one (though one of the residents phoned the owner who was OK about us staying there for a night). There's always at least one camp site within a day's ride, so it's just a question of planning ahead a bit.
Don't go to Brusand camping south of Stavanger though - I must do a post to warn people off that campsite. An alternative is Ogna camping on the cycle route about 5km south of Brusand.

The route was mainly well signposted and easy to follow without detailed maps. We just got our phone out to check the route a couple of times a day when the signing was missing or not clear (using offline maps on Viewranger or OSMand). I'll post some comments and tips on the route another time.

Re: Reducing pannier weight

2 hours 44 min ago
I found the easiest way to lose weight off my bike was to lose it off me... but often the hardest to do... when I did a JOGLE i weighed more at the end....

Re: Cycle Touring Festival - May 2015 - Lancashire

3 hours 8 min ago
Tasker wrote:Geoff.D wrote:I came across this whilst browsing. I found it interesting.

http://www.alastairhumphreys.com/cycle- ... -festival/

From the info I've managed to garner this sounds like a right 'hoot'! £65 indeed!

Loads of middle aged, (and of course, at the weekend), middle class earnest tree huggers. Dressed in the best that the 'Outdoor Adventure Specialists' have to offer - sitting there all serious and taking notes. Think ludicrously expensive bikes unloaded from posh cars a mile down the road from a Trip Advisor hotel - sorry! 'Charming B&B' so they can sit there and be persuaded into booking tickets on a 'carry yer bags Squire?' Cycling adventure in that there Lore vallie......

There's a lot of danger when the middle class/aspiring working class that for so long recently regarded a bloke on a bike as a failure, move in. Perhaps they're hoping to meet some 'interesting Characters too?

What a carefully crafted marketing scam.

I blame Charles for all this. Gotta go like, got to take her down the pub - might even take the wife too. Vote UKIP!

I never thought I would come across a troll on this site....

I am 44 and that counts me as middle aged, but put a few things straight:

1. I built my own bike
2. I am leaving on a trip around the UK & Irish coast and I have done plenty of cycling
3. Tree Huggers absolutely preferable and far more interesting than someone who's only contribution is to deride

I have spoken to the organiser of this event who has funded this up front from her own pocket, and if you think the £65 is expensive then go try doing it on the cheap for yourself, with ticket sales of only 200 and then organising, paying for and insuring the event. Not to mention the abuse from small minded people who without actually trying to do the sums for themselves sit and pontificate, imagine how hurt her feelings have been by this sort of comment "carefully crafted marketing scam" do you even think before you open your mouth??

danger from people moving in???? in to what, since when has there been a barrier on cycling, since when has been on a bike being viewed as a failure???? Voting for UKIP what the hell has that got to do with anything? We are in a democracy vote or not vote for whoever we want to vote, again non of your business that's why voting is private.

Interesting people of course there will be, I suggest getting off your own high horse for a second and consider that whatever reason someone is attending is their own business, if they want to hug trees or take notes good for them, if they want to spend 5 min on their bike or 5 months there's no difference as long as they are doing what makes them happy.

As for ludicrously expensive bikes and posh cars, whats the matter my friend??? If you have earned it you spend it how you please and nothing to do with you or I, such cheap shots again show you for the sort of person you are.

I can't imagine what it must be like to live in the head of someone who gets so offended by other people doing what they enjoy they have to write a post so lacking in constructive comment..

I am so glad you obviously won't be at this event as you would not get anything out of it other than sitting in judgement of other peoples motives, I doubt you have it in you to apologise for the above post so i am most likely wasting my breath. Someone tries to do a little more for the cycling community and you shoot them down says a lot about you as a person they do have a term for it though it's called a keyboard warrior.

Re: Sardina

3 hours 53 min ago
Just uploaded my photos from Sardinia in 2003 to flickr here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/onestia/sets/72157651185539638/ - any questions, just give me a shout.

Re: Cycle Touring Festival - May 2015 - Lancashire

4 hours 7 min ago
Geoff.D wrote:I came across this whilst browsing. I found it interesting.

http://www.alastairhumphreys.com/cycle- ... -festival/

From the info I've managed to garner this sounds like a right 'hoot'! £65 indeed!

Loads of middle aged, (and of course, at the weekend), middle class earnest tree huggers. Dressed in the best that the 'Outdoor Adventure Specialists' have to offer - sitting there all serious and taking notes. Think ludicrously expensive bikes unloaded from posh cars a mile down the road from a Trip Advisor hotel - sorry! 'Charming B&B' so they can sit there and be persuaded into booking tickets on a 'carry yer bags Squire?' Cycling adventure in that there Lore vallie......

There's a lot of danger when the middle class/aspiring working class that for so long recently regarded a bloke on a bike as a failure, move in. Perhaps they're hoping to meet some 'interesting Characters too?

What a carefully crafted marketing scam.

I blame Charles for all this. Gotta go like, got to take her down the pub - might even take the wife too. Vote UKIP!

Re: Sardina

4 hours 18 min ago
Thanks

we went out of season, first week in September and the beaches were dead. Got to love the Italians really short high season.

Badesi town was small, though we did get a really nice restaurant meal in it (well it seemed to be after we had drank rather a lot of house red), and the camp site and beach was a bit of a walk away. Seems to have disappeared now anyway. Valledoria definitely seemed to be a tourist seaside resort, rather than having any other intrinsic value like Alghero. they we're mainly stop offs for us and we ended up spending 3 days in Maddelena/Caprera as it was so lovely.

Re: Sardina

4 hours 39 min ago
Am impressed by your knowledge of Sardinia Honesty.

I know Badesi and Valledoria.

Though in truth there are nicer places I think.

In season Valledoria/Beadesi beaches are just full of side by side Italians grilling themselves.

And there's not much in Badesi itself.



Some pics of my Sardinia pedalling here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37034456@N06/

They are the pics with the green and cream brommie and orange Dahon Speed Pro.

Re the post above about heat, yes it will be getting hot at the beginning of July but I passed on this being a concern as the OP didn't seem to be planning a major expedition and seemed flexible on how much pedalling they did. So you could pedal at the beginning of the day, stay out of the sun for several hours and then pedal a bin in the evening.

But you do have to be careful of the heat in high seasion - it can very easily hit 35 pushing 40 degrees C.

Re: Sardina

6 hours 39 min ago
Not cycled but have walked and bussed around the top of Sardinia. We got Ryanair, Stansted to Alghero. Seemed easy enough at the time, even though the pilot informed us on taking off that he had a warning light on the dash but was going to chance it...

Anyway. For Sardinia around the top there were a few stand out things for me.
Alghero. Lovely town, well worth seeing, and a campsite in town right on the beach. Was very busy even though we went in September. La Mariposa was I think what it was called. There's a very nice looking regional park on the headland there, and a national park just north as well. We didn't get to see them as we caught the bus across to Castelsardo.

Castelsardo. Amazing looking town on a rock jutting out into the sea.

La Maddalena islands, especially Caprera. Caprera is a lovely national park, chock full military ruins, from Napoleonic to 2nd world war sea forts. All of which were places that could be investigated. It's also the resting place of Garibaldi and there's his house there you can go around. We stayed at a campsite on Maddalena - Campeggio Maddalena - and it was great. The pitch was a little rocky, but the food on site was excellent.

The other 3 campsites we stayed out in the week or so we were there. One seems to have disappeared around Badesi, one in Valledoria called La Foce - good food again, it's own swimming pool, and a ferry across to the massive long beach on the other side of the river (walking 10 miles along a loose sand beach was a bad idea by the way...), and one call Baia Blu La Tortuga. We stopped there in all honesty because it was called Tortuga. It was a decent site though, even though we couldn't work out how to get hot showers...

We got a ferry from Olbia to Genoa when we left (and went and walked up Monte Tobbio in the Marcarolo park) It took 14 hours, was really smooth and was basically a mini cruise ship. We got an internal cabin and slept as it was an overnight ferry.

Re: Sardina

7 hours 18 min ago
Easyjet flies from Gatwick and Luton to Olbia in summer, so you can surely get from Aberdeen to Sardinia in 2 flights, in summer season, and without airport transfer in London, though you'd have to check the flight timings to see how well it works. There must surely also be options via Amsterdam etc. You just need recognise that there are 3 airports in Sardinia, Olbia and Alghero as well as Cagliari.

I think it will be getting very hot in the interior of Sardinia in July. The mountains to the east of centre are really nice, but very hard cycling.

Re: Tour of Brittany

9 hours 39 min ago
bretonbikes wrote:simonineaston wrote:Rain or not, I'm off!
On that subject, a small confession... Up thread, I posted a couple of pictures, pointing out - or so I thought - that there's lots of rainy days in Brittany, indeed, I said confidently,"Looking at the columns for May you can see that (although) Brittany gets almost 2x as many days when it rains...".
Well, what a silly chap I am! When I looked again yesterday, I see it's the other way round. Sorry if I misled anyone.

It's OK - even the French weather forecasters have the same problem - if they're not sure they go to default and put 'rain in Brittany' - many's the time we've had a lovely weekend that was supposed to be wet. There is a court case brought by a hotel against 'Le Meteo' going on for that reason! Last year we had the best weather in France for much of the summer (the South had flooding) but no-one ever mentions it) much the same the year before - Grrr. But really all you can say about Brittany is that generally it's 'moderate' - you don't get massive storms, flash floods, heat waves or blizzards - if you can survive a bit of rain then that's the worst that's ever going to happen...

I think I might have been guilty of spreading these rumour too! But in my defence, living in South Devon I always consider the weather in Brittany will be similar to the weather at home - and there is no month you can't expect rain.

Re: Reducing pannier weight

10 hours 8 min ago
bainbridge wrote:We're hostelling with the odd hotel so no camping stuff to carry, though my bike isn't touring specific and 13 it's years old:

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All the weight is on the back so I'm trying to keep it to a minimum.

Did you catch whoever stole the other half of your rear mudguard?

Re: Trangia in USA

26 March 2015 - 10:09pm
It's a while ago since I went to the USA with my Trangia, before I was on the internet and so not so easy to do research. It took a bit of work to find some suitable alcohol there, but we did manage. No-one had heard of meths.

One thing I remember is that for the flight back security called us to examine our baggage and I had to repeatedly wash out the fuel bottle and burner unit with water and soap in the restrooms until there was absolutely not a sniff of fuel before they were happy. This was on hold bags.

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

26 March 2015 - 9:11pm
F70100 wrote:I asked at the Tourist Office in central Stavanger about ferries and was directed to norled.no. It doesn't seem to be the easiest site to navigate but this map appears to indicate that there is still a route from Merjarvik to Skudeneshamn via the island of Kvitsoy. There doesn't appear to be a timetable for it though. Maybe an email to post@norled.no will give a definitive answer.

The road (E39) from Merjarvik to the island of Rennesoy for the Mortavika - Arsvagen ferry is actually a tunnel most of the way so doesn't sound like too much fun.

I have to say that the lady in the tourist office didn't seem to know much; but she did give me a small booklet/cycling map dated 2011 which you're welcome to have if you'd care to PM an address to me.

F70100: Thanks so much for doing that! If a ferry still exists that's great, even if the timetable is a mystery. I will email post@norled.no to check up on it. About the cycling booklet, thanks for the offer, but I'll probably just stop in at the tourist office when I'm there. Thanks so much for your help though! I really appreciate it!

Re: Trangia in USA

26 March 2015 - 8:52pm
Good stuff Andrew, many thanks for that.

Re: Trangia in USA

26 March 2015 - 7:32pm
I used my Trangia for Seattle to San Francisco & for Arizona & Utah.

Denatured alcohol is available from places such as Home Depot (same as B&Q) in large towns.

Heet (methanol) is widely available from garages.

I used mainly Heet on my tours with no ill effects.

More info here http://adventuresinstoving.blogspot.co. ... -fuel.html

Trangia in USA

26 March 2015 - 6:06pm
Planning to do U.S. Pacific Coast from the end of July. Would prefer to take the trusty Trangia, so is meths widely available over there?

Re: Does your bike leave your side?

26 March 2015 - 2:21pm
From reading the first post, I took it that he was talking about wild camping in far away lands, rather than a French campsite.

I often travel in faraway lands, but I don't camp. Partly for security reasons (ie having a hotel to store all my stuff in) and partly because hotels are often so cheap that camping is an unnecessary hassle. Nonetheless, I would imagine that when wild camping most people wouldn't leave their tent unattended for more than a few minutes. A modern tent with all its goodies, not to mention a bike would be a very tempting target for many people. Even if theft wasn't an issue, then touching and investigating your stuff probably would be.

When I first cycled in India nearly 20 years ago my bike was like a space craft compared to the local machines as such, attracted all sort of interest. Not malicious, but the twiddlers as I called them would touch and fiddle with everything that moved. For this reason I always tried to keep it in my hotel room with me.

I haven't been to India for a while, but find that in other parts of Asia I am much less paranoid now. Partly due to complacency, but also local bikes have changed so much that compared to their multigeared disc brake, full suspension (cheap rubbish) bikes, mine doesnt look much. Straight bars also help to make it look less exotic. Hence it is currently locked to the fire escape ladder in the hotel garage/bikepark downstairs at the time of writing. I just hope it is still there tomorrow morning!!

D11 and D12 in Northern Germany

26 March 2015 - 12:06pm
Hi!

I'm thinking of a bit of a tour in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, between Berlin and the Baltic. Lots of lovely looking cycle routes here:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=9/53.0742/13.5297&layers=C

but I am a little concerned because I have found in the past that German off-road cycle paths (marked as such on OpenCycleMap-- i.e. with a blue dashed line in the default rendering), especially those through forests, can be surfaced with quite rough gravel.

Has anyone been on D11 or D12 or on any of the other routes around that area who can advise about the sort of surface I can expect? Many thanks for any help.

Re: Santander - London Jul/Aug 2015

26 March 2015 - 11:43am
Just an up-date to my initial post. I am able to extend dates to include September, probably better since July/August are
key holiday months in France and elsewhere. Campsites not so busy and maybe less tourist road traffic. On my Lejog
Ride, I cycled 1500 miles in 19 days so guess this tour would be similar with more rest days and time for exploring local
areas. Would be great to hear from others who have done similar tour and any must-see places to visit/include

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