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Re: Eastern European cyclist escorted off motorway

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 hour 54 min ago
Valbrona wrote:There was that African national team that got chucked off the M54(?) when they were out for a training ride while competing in the UK at some or other Games.
Kenyan Cyclists on M61 Manchester Commonwealth Games 2002 http://www.standard.co.uk/news/games-cy ... 27126.html

There was also the Sri Lankan team at the last Olympics

Re: A new one on me!

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 3 min ago
iviehoff wrote:kwackers wrote:I'd take a generous approach and assume it was originally to the side and out of the way referring to signs that are in the cycle lane further up and some wit has moved it into the cycle lane...
Because the guy that originally placed them wouldn't put that in the cycle lane would he...
You can just make out on the photo a yellow sign further up the cycleway, so I think that is right.

I was recently annoyed to experience, on my daily commute, a carriageway narrowed by a sign warning of the upcoming narrowing of the carriageway. It was especially annoying because the narrowing it referred to was actually, though it didn't say so, down the side turn to the left. Fortunately someone has now relocated the sign to the footway.

And if I pass it I'll move it back - assuming the footway isn't wide enough for both the sign and a wheelchair...

Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 6 min ago
Thanks for the explanation Vorpal.

I have to say that Steve has a number of threads which cover a number of topics, so I'd veer away from suggesting trolling just yet...

Re: A new one on me!

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 14 min ago
And obviously the granddaddy of all signs: "Caution. Warning sign ahead"

Re: A new one on me!

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 15 min ago
Surely that will need a warning sign, "Pedestrians - Caution Signage on Footway"

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 hours 16 min ago
I stand corrected, Hawick is only 100m when I look at the map. The Internet told me 180 but that is Hawick Mill obviously on the surrounding hills.
Have you any recommended cafes in Kelso, Alexander?

Re: Police appeal - attack on cyclists in Islington

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 18 min ago
bikes4two wrote:AndyBSG wrote:
Really makes you wonder about society when someone can just walk out on a busy street and stab a complete stranger in the chest just to steal a bike.

Do we know that the victim was a complete stranger?

Anyone who's actually been following the news story does as the culprits have been arrested and both the police and the victims parents have stated that the attackers weren't known to the victim to their knowledge

bikes4two wrote:AndyBSG wrote:That whole area is rife with street crime of this sort, I personally had a mobile stolen by a cycle past thief just a week before.......
Were you stab as well? I presume so based on your last statement?

Not sure why you would presume that as nowhere do I say that I was stabbed, just that I was mugged in the same area as this attack

bikes4two wrote:AndyBSG wrote:it was pretty apparent that street robberies of that sort are a daily occurrence
Really?

It is this sort of exageration that breads fear - not based on facts but what, fear I suppose.

I'm happy to be proved wrong of course and then we can all be properly prepared to be stabbed and mugged when we go cycling in such areas!

You may consider it exaggeration but I don't know many people who live in or frequent that area so when myself and a friend are both mugged there within days of each other then this happens two weeks later.

The Police were pretty up front with me when I reported it and made it clear this happens all the time so unless the guy was handed to them on a plate nothing would happen and when I was asked to go through mug shots there were over 300 suspects known to operate in that area matching my description.

Also, for January alone there were 116 reported muggings within a 1 mile area of Caledonian Road according to the public crime statistics database(not including robberies, muggings, bike thefts and burglary which are categorised separately) so rather than me exaggerating they are daily occurrence those stats show that muggings in that area are actually occurring multiple times each day and that's just the ones reported.

Regardless, I don't know why my opinions have upset you so much and caused you to take such personal offence.

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 hours 22 min ago
Harestanes cafe might not be open for the season when you are going though.
But the one along the road at Woodside should be

If you go via St Boswells, there is another nice cafe at Lilliesleaf

Re: A new one on me!

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 27 min ago
kwackers wrote:I'd take a generous approach and assume it was originally to the side and out of the way referring to signs that are in the cycle lane further up and some wit has moved it into the cycle lane...
Because the guy that originally placed them wouldn't put that in the cycle lane would he...
You can just make out on the photo a yellow sign further up the cycleway, so I think that is right.

I was recently annoyed to experience, on my daily commute, a carriageway narrowed by a sign warning of the upcoming narrowing of the carriageway. It was especially annoying because the narrowing it referred to was actually, though it didn't say so, down the side turn to the left. Fortunately someone has now relocated the sign to the footway.

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 hours 37 min ago
Thanks very much rualexander.... great to have a cafe tip-off too!

Re: Weight distribution.

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 hours 38 min ago
Yes, a trailer is heavier than racks. I wouldn't argue with that at all.
The thing is, weight isn't the issue.

With a trailer, the weight is on the trailer wheels and all you do is trundle it behind. Yes, it's slower up the hills, but on the flat you wouldn't know it was there, and downhill it gives you a push. You lose accelleration, and you have to give time and distance to your braking, but that would be the same no matter how you carried the weight.

Also, there's some science involved. When you ride a bike, there is a little swaying to and fro involved. If you carry the weight in panniers, that weight has to be swung to and fro too. This consumes energy. With a trailer, the bike still sways to and fro, but the weight is on the trailer, so less energy is consumed.

Read this:
http://www.carryfreedom.com/wp-content/ ... cience.pdf

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 hours 59 min ago
Paulatic wrote:How long it takes depends on how fast you cycle of course. It's not a hilly route but it is of course uphill from sea level to ~180m above.
My last time up that road it was a very strong headwind with very little shelter. It was March though so everything bare.

Not sure where the 180m altitude comes from? Hawick is around 100m and nowhere between Hawick and Berwick is any higher really.

Best route might be the B6461 from Berwick to Kelso, fairly straight and relatively gentle rolling road. From Kelso head for Roxburgh, then minor road to Nisbet, on to Ancrum, then minor road that follows the north side of the River Teviot all the way to Hawick, very nice roads.
Couple of cafes between Nisbet and Ancrum, one at Harestanes visitor centre and another just along the road at a garden centre.

Good chance of a headwind of some sort going between Berwick and Hawick though.

North Antrim Coast Road any Advice

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 3 hours 5 min ago
Hi all

Thinking of a week or so touring from Belfast up round the North Coast (think its sustrans rote 93).

I have some concerns that the route seems to be the A2 main road, has anyone any experience of how busy/safe it would be in terms of traffic.

Unforunately we need to go first week August, so potentially a busy week ?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated including places to visit/accomodation etc or route reccomendations.

Many thanks

Mick

Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 hours 13 min ago
Forum staff have been in contact with police and are cooperating in the investigation.

This thread was locked briefly today while a copy was preserved.

Re: Pushing a bike on a footpath.

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 hours 26 min ago
simple thing is don't get caught or just ignore the village idiots and carry on. what are they actually going to do..call the police and tell them what? It's not as if the rozzers are going to turn up at the scene within secinds is it by which time you've long gone and they aren't going to be interested anyway as it's a civil matter.
In the highly unlikely event of such persons trying to detain you that's false imprisonment and even less likely any violence against you would result in such negative publicity that it would completely backfire.

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 3 hours 35 min ago
Good point beardy. I don't really know. I tend to think to myself i average at 15mph but then usually surprise myself - I guess a bit of a game where I think that's how quick I'll be and then am pleasantly surprised, rather than aiming higher and being disappointed! But I think yes, you're probably right, depending on how hilly it is, somewhere between 10 and 15 mph is probably realistic. So maths-wise my journey would work... just whether it would legs-wise...

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 hours 14 min ago
badams wrote:Hm, ok, thanks. It'll be April so not much better. I'm not a roadie by any means; will be loaded too, so probably ~15 mph av. Will think about it more. thanks very much!

Do you mean that you do 15mph average in Norfolk?

It varies with all the specific conditions but on the same rig I can average 15mph on the plains and that can often convert to an average of 10mph in the hills.

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 hours 29 min ago
Hm, ok, thanks. It'll be April so not much better. I'm not a roadie by any means; will be loaded too, so probably ~15 mph av. Will think about it more. thanks very much!

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 hours 38 min ago
How long it takes depends on how fast you cycle of course. It's not a hilly route but it is of course uphill from sea level to ~180m above.
My last time up that road it was a very strong headwind with very little shelter. It was March though so everything bare.

Re: Berwick-upon-Tweed to Hawick - best route and how hard?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 hours 8 min ago
Thank you Paulatic and thirdcrank. I take your point about the bordersishness of the Borders... hm.
Thanks Paulatic for the tip about the A road too... I did wonder if it might be ok. Seems less demanding incline-wise too. But do you think allowing 5 hours, it'd be doable? It'd mean leaving at 5am, admittedly.
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