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Re: Avoiding collisions

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 35 min ago
I think we had this one a while back, where much of it got pulled apart. If you have a search you might be able to find the thread.

Re: Avoiding collisions

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 hours 6 min ago
Interesting, but a pity one of his 'almost the exact same scenes' wasn't- it showed a much wider image, which makes the biker harder to identify independently of the change in the light, which is a bit naughty (though the point being made is fair enough).
His ides of having lights on all the time is very dangerous for pedestrians, children, or cyclists with less than 'car headlight power' lights, as it makes it even harder to see anything without lights.

It's a good read, and I appreciated its points as a driver about missing objects between sightings, which I hadn't known about, and from that point of view I'd recommend everyone to read it, but it is flawed in other respects.
The main fault I have with it is that it still takes the premise that you 'go' if you can't see an obstruction, rather than only 'going' if you can see for sure that there isn't one- the latter is what I try to do.

Re: Tour of Britain

CTC Forum - Racing - 4 hours 21 min ago
After the finish, it's often worth hanging around for the podium presentations. I'll never forget the crowd reaction when one rider was presented with a cheese. I think it was most aggressive rider but I could be wrong. Allow half an hour, but it could be more if there's controversy or a big breakaway.

Re: Name the landmark

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 hours 46 min ago
Nice pictures. Never quite worked out how they managed to call it the 2nd Severn crossing though...

Re: Tour of Britain

CTC Forum - Racing - 12 hours 58 sec ago
Plenty of time to get from durdham downs to Temple Meads plus it's all downhill too. I'll be up there too and also at the start in Bath on 12th September.

Re: A Plea for BRIGHT Clothing

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 10:31pm
Not perhaps a reduction in damages, but the principle is similar:

http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/loc ... th-6091579

Pedestrian, but the parallel is clear, IMHO.

Trouble is, this still seems to be the majority view among the population.

Regards,

Steve

Re: A Plea for BRIGHT Clothing

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 9:16pm
There have not been, to my knowledge any cases that went to court and upheld reduced damages for a victim who did not wear available protective gear. In fact, of the cases I am aware of, compensation was specifically not reduced.

However, it is common practice for insurance companies to offer reduced compensation on the basis of no helmet or hi viz, and I would not be surprised to find that many victims or their families accepted reduced compensation. They may believe that a legal battle is going to be stressful and unproductive. Or they may not realise that they have a right to full compensation.

Re: A Plea for BRIGHT Clothing

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 9:03pm
SP wrote:It's fortunate that accidents are rare, especially rear end shunts, since that fact offers more reassurance on a daily basis than any of the gear (helmets, high viz, good road behaviour).

Unfortunately, as lots of posts have pointed out, since Rule 59 of the highway code says 'You should wear' re helmet and light-coloured or fluorescent clothing, then, should one be a victim of an injury caused by a driver the courts do seem to take not wearing such things as evidence that the cyclist (or pedestrian) victim is partly to blame.

I have dependants and am aware of the chance that any damages / insurance resulting from my serious injury or death would be reduced.

I therefore wear a helmet and 'high viz' - I don't think it makes me measurably less likely to be hit, but 'just in case'!

Meanwhile I dream of Holland or Denmark and '20's plenty'.

Regards,

Steve
Judges seemingly quote the HC as being relevant whenever it suits them, usually in favour of the motorist. That this in itself is not consistant again highlights just how swayed the system is again cyclists when it comes to court proceedings..

Re: A Plea for BRIGHT Clothing

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 8:08pm
Has anyone worked out the difference an across town journey would take with a 20 limit as opposed to 30? It wouldn't be as much as 33% slower as a lot of the time you'd be waiting at lights, junctions, roundabouts, or just going under 30 as per the conditions, maybe stuck behind cyclists riding in the middle of the road!

Re: A Plea for BRIGHT Clothing

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 7:51pm
It's fortunate that accidents are rare, especially rear end shunts, since that fact offers more reassurance on a daily basis than any of the gear (helmets, high viz, good road behaviour).

Unfortunately, as lots of posts have pointed out, since Rule 59 of the highway code says 'You should wear' re helmet and light-coloured or fluorescent clothing, then, should one be a victim of an injury caused by a driver the courts do seem to take not wearing such things as evidence that the cyclist (or pedestrian) victim is partly to blame.

I have dependants and am aware of the chance that any damages / insurance resulting from my serious injury or death would be reduced.

I therefore wear a helmet and 'high viz' - I don't think it makes me measurably less likely to be hit, but 'just in case'!

Meanwhile I dream of Holland or Denmark and '20's plenty'.

Regards,

Steve

Re: Avoiding collisions

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 7:19pm
Turns out that the solution is for cyclists to make eye contact with drivers, wear hi-viz, avoid riding if the weather is unsuitable (your safety is more important than going out training so don't be obstinate ) or at least alter their route so they're not riding into the sun. Oh, and make sure you wear a helmet

I notice a distinct lack of calls for bright coloured vehicles, helmets for drivers, advice not to drive if the light conditions aren't right and even then not to make journeys in the direction the sun is shining. Also, advice to reduce your speed when approaching junctions "even if it's only by 20mph or so" does beg the question of how fast drivers are expected to be approaching junctions normally.

The first bit was interesting though.

Re: Avoiding collisions

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 6:25pm
Good read, I'm off to have seconds so I present a wider profile.

Re: Bicycle storage conundrum

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 6:20pm
Before we leave the OP to discuss the moral fibre of women with prams, I'll say this.

Living in a small flat isn't ideal for everybody as storage space can be limited. In this case, it seems there's a shed with some sort of bike rack. From what I've read so far, the only problem has been with another resident who leaves a buggy where it obstructs access to the bike rack and has objected when it's been moved out of the way and left on top of other people's stuff stored there.

I'd not argue about the comparative storage problems of bikes and buggies, especially without seeing the size and type of the buggy.

I would say that looking after a small child in these circumstances isn't going to make things any easier and may well make them more difficult. eg a buggy may or may not be easier to carry to a flat than a bike, depending on the size and type of buggy, but doing it while carrying a small child is generally going to be a lot harder.

Re: Cycling Safety - What Needs To Change?

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 6:03pm
The simple answer is drivers attitudes.

Re: Two cyclists killed, driver arrested

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 5:59pm
Tonyf33 wrote:... TC, it appears there is an investigation underway
http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/news/ipcc-seeks- ... ion-purley
http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/news/ipcc-renewi ... ley-thames

I just typed in Purley BTW

Thanks for that. The second link shows the IPCC investigation is still current. I suppose events have moved quite quickly in this case in that the prosecution was concluded within a couple of months. I just typed in the name of the defendant, which came back as zero results. Silly of me, on reflection.

Re: Bicycle storage conundrum

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 5:56pm
Doesn't it depend on how far you're going? Think my record is about 14 miles throughout the day, I wouldn't expect a 3 year old to walk that far, admittedly they were younger (and lighter!) when I went that far. We still use ours on days out round the zoo or Alton Towers, partly for transporting kids, now 2 and 5, and partly for transporting all our lunch and snacks.

Re: Question: Grand Union Canal London (Southall)

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 5:55pm
The GU towpath surface in London isn't too bad, and these sections are much less busy than the Regent's Canal which is the one most people know.

That said, I wouldn't be entirely sure that the canal is the best choice for your route. The one you're crossing at Greenford is the GU Paddington Arm, while that at Hanwell is the GU Main Line. Going from one to the other by canal you have to head out to Bull's Bridge (Hayes), which isn't necessarily the most direct route.

Re: Bicycle storage conundrum

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 5:28pm
Elizabethsdad wrote:Actually it is not uncommon these days to see quite old kids still being pushed around in buggies

Don't get me started on this. I stopped using our buggy for our daughter as soon as she could walk. Yes it took longer to get places but it just meant setting out in time. Some times I really have to bite my tongue when I see a strapping big three-year-old being wheeled around.

Massive sweeping generalisation: women are the worst offenders here. My sister-in-law readily admits she still used their buggy well after her kids had outgrown it because she liked it as a large handbag with wheels.

Re: Question: Grand Union Canal London (Southall)

CTC Forum - On the road - 17 April 2014 - 5:21pm
Agreed.

My other half has just taken a new job which is pretty much directly accessible from us via the canal door to door. Ideal you might think; a traffic-free commute.

She tried it on the bike once - it took her an hour of frustration at ramps, speed bumps, narrow passages, barriers, having to carry her bike up and down steps. The same commute on the roads takes 20 mins.
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