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Re: Pride comes before a fall

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 38 min ago
661-Pete wrote:mercalia wrote:Spinners wrote:Looks like the clown has made a privacy complaint.


which and how do u know and where?
The originator of the video posted on YouTube, saying he's had a message from YouTube moderators.

The Streisand effect will kick in.

Re: Land's End to Stonehenge

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 August 2015 - 9:56pm
If you have enough time, a few suggestions to improve bits of MickF's route: (these are all slower but much nicer IMHO )
a) from Land's end take the B 3306 coast road as far as 2 miles after Zennor, then Towednack and down to Lelant / Hayle/
a) between Hayle and Blackwater take the coast road B3301 the Mawla - Skinner's Bottom - Blackwater
b) rather than A39 Wadebridge / Camelford, from St Columb go down towards the Camel Trail near Bodmin then follow NCN 3 as far as Hallworthy, then Egloskerry/Launceston. (Camel trail is mostly fine grit, OK for 28mm tyres. If that's no good take the B3266 between Bodmin and Camelford).

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 9:04pm
I have no issues in rush hour traffic - filtering is done carefully, as it is on an upright, but I've had far fewer police reports in the several years on bents than I did in even a couple of years on an upwrong.

I also have far fewer idiots. Don't get to break as many wing mirrors though....

Re: Pride comes before a fall

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 8:50pm
Arming yourself lol... most cyclists that do a reasonable mileage could just dance around a guy like him, or run off.

You could probably run off pushing your bike faster than he could run after you without one.

You do need half a brick in your pocket while cycling... but that's for Taxi drivers.

Re: Pride comes before a fall

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 6:58pm
I'd certainly urge caution over carrying anything for "self defence."

The Prevention of Crime Act 1953 has been the subject of a lot of case law but it has stood the test of time: the legal system doesn't like weapons. There's generally no problem with something picked up and used when there's no alternative - ie back to the wall - but anything carried "just in case" is dodgy. Of course, that case law included people who were acquitted as well as those convicted, but for most ordinary people, being acquitted after months or even years waiting for the system to reach a final decision is no fun.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eli ... /section/1

A growing problem that the legal system has not yet come to terms with is that ordinary people are losing faith in its ability to protect them. IMO a symptom of that is the fall in reported crime: why bother reporting things if you feel nothing will happen?

Re: Scotland in 2 weeks

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 August 2015 - 6:42pm
Therealsouthstander wrote:robing wrote:Therealsouthstander wrote:In my opinion The Outer Hebrides off Scotland's West coast is among the best cycling you'll find anywhere...

Get the Ferry from Oban to the Isle of Barra , cycle around the island then get another ferry to Eriskay,then cycle South Uist,Benbecula,North Uist then the magical Bernaray.. Ferry from Bernaray to the best bit ,the Isle of Harris and Isle of Lewis.. Then ferry from Stornoway to Ullapool.. All ferries will cost about £30 in total and these islands are a cyclists dream,really quiet roads with a great surface - Did you mention nature ? You'll be in heaven


Do not miss The Outer Hebrides..

I'm going to do this next month. But I will get the ferry from Harris to Uig, cycle across Skye, ferry to Mallaig, cycle across Ardnamurchan and then via Mull back to Oban.


Your route is perfect ,once You pass Harris and go into Lewis it's not as good,so heading over to Skye ,Mallaig !Ardanmurchan and Mull your going to constantly be in superb cycling areas..

Not sure if it fits in but there's a really good bunkhouse on Mull beside the ferry back to Oban...

Hopefully the weather is good for you. It's been really cold and wet this summer...

I'm praying for a bit of an Indian summer. I'm wondering how much time I'll need. I've got 2 weeks, might be able to stretch it to three.

Re: Pride comes before a fall

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 6:31pm
...and whilst using something that came to hand could likely be explained away as an act of self defence in a moment of panic and fear, that doesn't really apply of you are carrying it for the sole purpose of using it as a weapon.

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 6:17pm
It is said that when Captain Cook arrived in Botany Bay the natives on the shore ignored the unprecedented sight of huge (to them) ships because it was so far outside their experience that they did not register. Perhaps recumbents are similarly invisible to the minds of some drivers.

Re: Pride comes before a fall

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 6:13pm
Bicycler wrote:Arguable... but it isn't pepper spray That website looks like one for the tin foil hat brigade.

Yes, I've never felt the need to be armed while cycling. Though I think if one wants to carry a non weapon spray about then there are plenty substances supplied in aerosol cans which would stop/irritate an attacker if sprayed in his face.

Though arguably as soon as you use it the spray becomes an illegal offensive weapon.

The term 'offensive weapon' is defined as: "any article made or adapted for use to causing injury to the person, or intended by the person having it with him for such use".

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/offe ... icles/#a07

Re: Pride comes before a fall

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 4:49pm
Tacascarow wrote: ... I was in a discussion a few weeks back with a cyclist from the States who was amazed when I said it's illegal to carry pepper spray in the UK.
Actually made them think twice about coming here to tour. ...

(I missed this before until I saw it quoted.)

If you speak to them again, you might mention that guns aren't generally allowed here, either. Whether that will encourage them to come here to tour I don't know.

Re: Pride comes before a fall

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 4:41pm
Arguable... but it isn't pepper spray That website looks like one for the tin foil hat brigade.

Re: LLC and Wales Questions

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 1 August 2015 - 4:22pm
Well done Matt. Shame the weather wasn't better in the early stages, but I hope you've got some good memories. You'll be glad to get home to Colorado where the gradients are a bit easier.

Graham

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 4:04pm
Blimey Si you're almost the first recumbent recidivist I've come across.

well, if I had somewhere to keep it, and it didn't cause me pain to ride then I'd still have it! But not as an only bike.

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 3:46pm
I don't think it would matter whether one was on a Recumbent or an upright.

It's about perception really, and while the driver may be looking directly at you and your image is on their retina, this is being filtered out by the brain as the brain is looking for a car-shaped object of a certain bulk and moving at a certain speed.

Falling for a Cyclist

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 2:26pm
This is possibly one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time.

https://youtu.be/2PFRdEUN240

Some colourful language involved.

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 2:17pm
Possibly the data is slewed in that 'recumbent'ers are more prone (if that's the right word?) to post on forums? I repeat - I see plenty of cyclists but I haven't passed or been passed by a 'bent for years. In many aspects of cycling I go against the mainstream, against the 'flow' - but in the debate of upright v. recumbent, I go with the mainstream. Sorry.

At least my opinion of recumbents is, perhaps, not quite as jaundiced as that of a certain delightful individual - a fellow exile from 'another place' - with whom I had a brief correspondence a few years ago. This is an extract from what he PM'd me:
.... and his ****head mates again going on about how in the wrong drivers were for failing to see his 2 foot high deck chair on wheels when he insists on using it in multi lane rush hour traffic...
I stress once again, this is the opinion of my correspondent, not of me.

Nevertheless, I'll stick with upright, thanks. The approved geometry for TdF is fine by me!

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 1:00pm
Blimey Si you're almost the first recumbent recidivist I've come across.

I still keep a small upright folder for shopping/busy urban stuff but as most of my riding is rural day rides, touring, or a long half urban/half rural commute I've given away all my other uprights and never missed them. I still remember what headwinds are like on an upright - couldn't go there again!

I agree with the others about Trikes too, if you really want visibility in traffic they're magic!

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 12:58pm
hatless wrote:Cunobelin wrote:because recumbents are low, sleek and moving, which reads as "predator" this spooking the horses

Sleek? Me on a recumbent, sleek?


I was referring to the machine


Riders s are diverse in size and shape

Re: Safer on a recumbent?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 August 2015 - 12:39pm
661-Pete wrote:I'd say, no. But you hardly ever see a 'bent around these parts - neither in town nor in the countryside. Not even in Brighton. So where do they congregate?

To my mind, they are simply something that the average motorist doesn't expect to encounter. Those who would respond, the same applies to conventional bikes, I'd say, not true, the majority of motorists are reasonable drivers and do see and behave responsibly about cyclists. So don't perplex them by placing yourself far closer to the ground than they are expecting!

And they're definitely a known hazard wherever there are horses around.

But maybe I'm prejudiced, seeing as I've never owned nor ridden a 'bent. They're far too expensive, for what you get....
They can be well priced...

And if you haven't ridden one on the street then I'd suggest reserving judgement. Their very unexpectedness is one of their strengths, they aren't dismissed as 'just a cyclist' by the subconscious, there is an active decision to be made.
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