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Re: Incident this morning - City of London

CTC Forum - On the road - 7 hours 1 min ago
Vorpal wrote:beardy wrote:I dont think that a low speed touching counts as any sort of offence. Rather like if cars touch mirrors while passing each other carefully.

I remember once being enraged because a driver drove into me when I didnt get out of his way on a narrow lane but as there was no damage done, there wasnt anything that I could (legally) do about it.
The Police will not do anything when there is damage (that is a civil case), so without any damage no hope.
The OP was injured. That is an injury accident that the driver should have stopped for or reported to police. It's not like car mirrors touching whilst passing carefully.

IMO, the OP should go to the GP or A&E to document the injury, even if it isn't extremely painful now.


I had an injury to my shoulder when I got knocked off. No lasting damage but got nearly £2000.

Re: news paper nutcase

CTC Forum - On the road - 7 hours 33 min ago
Can't you blame North Somerset Council for the problems facing cyclists? We've been waiting what, 40 years for them and their predecessor councils to do any building of the Weston-Clevedon railway path? Then lots of riders would be flashing nowhere near cars

Re: Incident this morning - City of London

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 11:36pm
My current car, like many others, has its wheels almost at the corners of the vehicle, so there is almost no "tail swing". Perhaps the coach driver doesn't realise his vehicle has such a wide swing.

"The driver then told me I should move out of the way if I see a coach coming from behind." I agree that this is outrageous. I would be almost inclined to report him on the basis of this comment alone. It is his job to ensure his vehicle doesn't hit other road users.

Having said that, a wise cyclist is aware of the peculiarities of large vehicles, and the wide swing when turning sharply, and the incompetence of some drivers. This doesn't make the collision your fault.

Would I bother reporting it to the police? If it was just a slight bruise, I wouldn't bother. Yes, it should be reported. The driver should report it. But the police won't prosecute. At most, they will check that he is licensed and insured and so on. Big deal.

Re: news paper nutcase

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 11:06pm
Well, as someone who has worked in the fire alarm industry, in which flashing strobe lights are often deployed in addition to audible warning signals - I am well aware of the rules that we have to observe in relation to the frequency of strobe lights. As a general rule, we are advised that a flash rate of 1Hz or slower is regarded as 'safe' for photosensitive epileptics (which are themselves only a small minority of those who suffer from epilepsy). And the last thing you want to happen, when people are hurriedly evacuating the scene of a fire, is for someone to suffer an epileptic seizure! Accordingly, I have worked on software to ensure that all the strobe lights controlled by a single system, flash simultaneously, so that the overall flashing rate is still 1Hz or less.

With a single cycle lamp there is unlikely to be a problem. However, when a large group of cyclists are cycling together at night (as happens on a popular event organised by someone from CycleChat), then yes there might be a problem: you can't synchronise cycle lamps! But photosensitive seizures are incredibly rare: what is more likely is the 'annoyance' factor which increases with the increasing rate of flashing. People who get really worked up might think they're going to have a fit - but they won't.

Now for my personal pet peeve: why oh why on BBC news do they still preface every bit of location news footage with the words "This report contains flash photography"? This is so wrong on two counts. Firstly, there is plenty of software around that can edit flashgun flashes out of a video. So why aren't the BBC using it? Secondly, why are press photographers persisting in using flash, when sensitive CMos sensors in cameras make flash all but obsolete except in very low light settings? I was once told a lot of b******* about flash being 'necessary' to 'fill in' the daylight and get the best quality image. I thought I knew something about photography, but that's old hat. I think they do it to intimidate their subjects, to catch them in awkward poses as they try to evade the barrage of flashes. Or maybe it's a Union, Luddite sort of thing? Bring back the old magnesium flashbulbs - when they have to manually change a scorching hot bulb after each snap, that'll teach 'em!

Re: Incident this morning - City of London

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 11:02pm
I suspect that his injury will not be taken seriously and be dismissed as not being a real injury.

Re: Incident this morning - City of London

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 10:55pm
beardy wrote:I dont think that a low speed touching counts as any sort of offence. Rather like if cars touch mirrors while passing each other carefully.

I remember once being enraged because a driver drove into me when I didnt get out of his way on a narrow lane but as there was no damage done, there wasnt anything that I could (legally) do about it.
The Police will not do anything when there is damage (that is a civil case), so without any damage no hope.
The OP was injured. That is an injury accident that the driver should have stopped for or reported to police. It's not like car mirrors touching whilst passing carefully.

IMO, the OP should go to the GP or A&E to document the injury, even if it isn't extremely painful now.

Re: ROSE BIKE'S UK . .

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 28 November 2014 - 10:53pm
mercalia wrote:CREPELLO wrote:mercalia wrote:Rose bikes I think the minimum postage is £7 - they use a courier. some things in Germany are considerably cheaper than the UK eg BM bottle dynamos eg £24 v £46 here.I've mentioned this several times before, but I'm consistently getting free delivery for some reason. Does nobody else?

well not me; the first purchase I made I did get a smallish back pack for free, thats allMy first order, I got what I appeared to be a cereal bowl. Actually I use it for bike bits...somehow I guess it was really intended for that. I never knew I needed one

Re: Incident this morning - City of London

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 9:49pm
Discomfort to a shoulder shows no signs and has no lasting effect.

Re: Incident this morning - City of London

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 9:47pm
An injury IS damage. Get well soon, I'm amazed there aren't more accidents involving the outswinging back ends of long vehicles.

Re: Incident this morning - City of London

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 9:45pm
I dont think that a low speed touching counts as any sort of offence. Rather like if cars touch mirrors while passing each other carefully.

I remember once being enraged because a driver drove into me when I didnt get out of his way on a narrow lane but as there was no damage done, there wasnt anything that I could (legally) do about it.
The Police will not do anything when there is damage (that is a civil case), so without any damage no hope.

Re: Incident this morning - City of London

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 9:27pm
Well he drove off from the scene of an accident. Criminal Offence just for that. Looking at the photo I am sure that there should be video footage showing the incident.

Best advice I can give for the future, is get yourself a helmet camera and maybe a rear one two. If you have head then this is your evidence and will make it so much easier to put your side of the story, and no more of your word against theirs.

Maybe contact CTC solicitors too.

Re: National Rt 24 Wellow-Midford Alternative Route via Twin

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 9:12pm
Genius! Thanks Jon & Gaz. So I make that roughly every 2 weeks. I'll do Frome tomorrow and Bath next week and report back on the resurfacing. I've done the Twinhoe route a few times and it is a beauty. I do it faster than the horses in the area given a couple of biscuits...hc

Re: Single Speed Freewheel Day Trips

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 28 November 2014 - 9:00pm
This is what I am thinking of doing to my bike. Single speed, but at my age and unfitness state (and weight. lol) I dont know what gearing would suit me. Years ago in the 70's, a single speed was like 2nd gear of a sturmey archer 3 speed. But back then, I was fitter, younger and a hell of a lot lighter. lol

Re: Incident this morning - City of London

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 8:56pm
The drivers statement is outrageous. He shouldn't be driving any kind of vehicle if he really believes that it's ok to hit somebody who doesn't get out of his way.
edit: typo

Re: National Rt 24 Wellow-Midford Alternative Route via Twin

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 8:29pm
See the Two Tunnels website www.twotunnels.org.uk

It is currently listing:

Nov 29, Dec 13, Dec 27, Jan 10, Jan 17, Jan 24

The route via Twinhoe is lovely, very quiet with some great views, but the hills are steep.

I haven't yet had a chance to ride the path to Wellow since it was resurfaced, would be interested to hear if anyone on here has.

Re: National Rt 24 Wellow-Midford Alternative Route via Twin

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 7:57pm
If that section is part of the Collier's Way it has its own website with a contact details page.

Re: Butser Hill - proposed cyclepath for the missing link

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 7:24pm
We in Portsmouth & Havant CTC are delighted that this is finally happening. I remember having site meetings with representatives of the Highways Agency over 10 years ago when there was no enthusiasm from them or HCC.
All the usual methods were utilised to keep it in the authorities view including lobbying local MPs.
Last year over several weekends and event times we collected signatures from users of the country park and even persuaded a recalcitrant motorist who complained about cyclists on roads that by signing it he was doing himself a favour.
We may not get everything we want but rest assured that there are enough of us interested to follow up what is happening at the time of construction to try. Original proposals were much much less user friendly that what is on offer now.

Re: news paper nutcase

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 7:15pm
It might be useful to point out to the correspondent that people likely to suffer an epileptic fit ( wheather triggered by a flashing cycle lamp or not) are unfit to drive and should have their driving licence revoked.

Re: track cycling highlights Ch4

CTC Forum - Racing - 28 November 2014 - 7:07pm
Recorder set. Thanks for the heads up.

Re: news paper nutcase

CTC Forum - On the road - 28 November 2014 - 6:56pm
martinn - would this be the same free rag that recently carried the letter and subsequent predictable replies about a father riding to school with his kids and being told to ride on the cycle path?
Yes indeed it is that pinnacle of journalism - The North Somerset Times. They have woken up to the fact that as well as moaning about North Somerset Council, cyclists offer a rich vein of vitriol from the readership too.
I have started drafting a reply but I keep straying into Mr Angry territory so I have to put it away and think pleasant thoughts until I can continue. I will manage it eventually with the help of many of the suggestions above.
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