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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 hour 14 min ago
2. The lorry was at the stop line when the light phase was already changing for the cyclists, given the width of the junction this would indicate that the lights had already being on red for a good 3-4 seconds and amber for longer.
3. The cyclist whilst beyond the stop line (as were many others) had not gone 'through' the lights or the junction before the lights went green.
Yes, but these aren't really facts are they. You don't know & I don't know how long the lights for the lorry have been red. If it is a good 3-4 seconds then both the taxi & the boris bike have also jumped the lights. You are just making a supposition and there is no evidence for it. Secondly: The cyclist has gone through the lights on red. Not only has he passed over the solid white line (which is what the legal offence technically is) but the light you can see is a repeater. It is the second of two lights with the first one being on the stop line mounted on the lamp post. If you want to be pedantic about it, if he isn't past the repeater while it is still on red & amber then he is inches away from doing so. So as people keep saying: They both jumped the lights.

My take on it is that what the lorry does is, sadly, not unusual and anyone riding in a large urban area will see motor vehicles doing that many times a day. It does not excuse what he does, It is still ilegal, but it is hardly out of the ordinary. What the cyclist does, however, is not what one might expect to see. To completely ignore a large vehicle, which is clearly continuing across the junction in plain view, just isn't 'normal'. It takes two to make an accident, but I know which of the two protagonists behaviour I am most surprised by.

Re: Cyclists are treated as if they are staionary.

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 59 min ago
GrumpyGit wrote:OK, I know I learned to drive a very long time ago (my provisional licence was in Latin) but I was taught that when passing another vehicle you only pull back into the nearside lane when you can see the passed vehicle in your rear view mirror. How hard can it be?

Much of the behaviour I witness on a daily basis makes me question the way drivers are trained these days. If I was running the country our roads would be less crowded because it would be much harder to get a driving license in the first place (I'd include a test of candidates mental attitude, any sign of short temper / road-rage = no licence) and I'd revoke licences for offences such as mobile phone use, tailgating, applying makeup, shaving, reading the newspaper and many many more things. I could easily take 20% of drivers (and their vehicles) off the road thereby curing congestion.

I always was a liberal softie

Absolutely! Driving should be treated properly as something which requires skill and expertise and only to be undertaken by people with the required skillsets and atttitude. At the moment driving is seen as a right, which it is not.

If you can't pass a tough driving test well there's always cycling.

Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

CTC Forum - On the road - 2 hours 59 min ago
More than one post has already been removed from this thread. If the slanging match continues, the thread will be locked or removed.

As for the word 'crap', it has generally been considered acceptable on this forum. However, please refrain from using it to describe other member's posts and opinions.

Thanks.

Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 hours 8 min ago
Tonyf33 wrote:So it seems okay for the mods to remove my response to being sworn at by a poster who lost their temper yet are not interested in modifying swearing..nice one, that seems fair!

I'm not sure 'crap' is a swear word - but then I'm from the north and we're more uncouth and say what we think up here.
Tonyf33 wrote:Actual real facts:
1. there was a massive gap of over 20 metres, that's not consistent with being in the same 'convoy' of traffic, in any case that's irrelevant.

It's not irrelevant though is it? Nor is it 20 meters, the distance between the Boris bike and the lorry is probably less than 10 (the lorry is probably less than 40' and another wouldn't come close to fitting in the gap).
Anyway the length of the gap is irrelevant, at the point the lorry enters the junction there's a taxi bang in the middle and a Boris bike behind that. Not only does he have all the time in the world to realise the lorry isn't going to stop but 3 vehicles are currently traversing the junction including the one he's about to collide with.

Incidentally the speed of the lorry through the lights is approximately 15mph - not 25-30 like your previously deleted rant suggested. He was tailgating a cyclist on a Boris bike through. Don't know about you but 25-30 mph on the flat on a Boris bike!?

Lets actually tell it how it happened. Forget lorries and bicycles.

Two people jump red lights and collide in the middle of a junction. Common sense tells you they're both guilty.
One of those two also ignored the highway code advice that you should only enter a junction when the way is clear. That obviously makes one of the two more liable.
Therefore at best he's more liable than the lorry driver and given the level of idiocy required to miss a truck - well lets just say I'm a fan of Darwinism.

Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 hours 23 min ago
So it seems okay for the mods to remove my response to being sworn at by a poster who lost their temper yet are not interested in modifying swearing..nice one, that seems fair!


Actual real facts:
1. there was a massive gap of over 20 metres, that's not consistent with being in the same 'convoy' of traffic, in any case that's irrelevant.
2. The lorry was at the stop line when the light phase was already changing for the cyclists, given the width of the junction this would indicate that the lights had already being on red for a good 3-4 seconds and amber for longer.
3. The cyclist whilst beyond the stop line (as were many others) had not gone 'through' the lights or the junction before the lights went green.
4. the cyclist was an idiot for riding into the side of the lorry
5. A vehicle crossing a junction when ordered by the lights to stop IS DANGEROUS, in a large vehicle such as the lorry here it is a death waiting to happen..

Whatever your viewpoint of what happened and clearly some are distorted as to the plain facts there is no excuse whatsoever for the actions of the lorry.

Re: Garmin eTrex help needed

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 3 hours 34 min ago
A small USB stick (or an adaptor that lets your microSD card in the GPS be used as a USB.)

Load the .gpx files on that along with some software that allows the computer to talk to your GPS.

You are going to have to get access to a computer where you will be allowed to install a Garmin Plugin, Mapsource, Basemap or GpsBabel in order to be able to transfer files into that part of the GPS which can use them. If they are not already on the computer.

There is probably room for all of this on your mapping microSD card but dont do that if you are not confident of not disturbing the mapping files (if you alter them they get locked so you can not use them, you can not even copy them).

I carry alternative mapping cards in my wallet, they are so small that your problem is not losing them.


Or you can upgrade to an Etrex 30 which can talk to other units and carry more than enough tracks anyway.

Re: Route Help for Ealing (W5) to Slough (SL1)

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 hours 39 min ago
I've not seen that route finder before, thanks!

That's taking me down the canal paths too I think (using my phone at the moment).

Yeah the bike will be indoors near security - so won't even need to carry a lock, can leave clothes in my drawer and take a shower - I've got no excuses not cycle in really, bar finding a route!

Re: Garmin eTrex help needed

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 3 hours 41 min ago
Best thing to do would be to combine a few of the days(turn 2 days into 1 track) so that you get under the 20.

You'll probably have to filter these new tracks too to get them under the 500 track points otherwise they won't load (you get a warning track/route truncated)

Have fun

Re: Chromebook for touring?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 3 hours 44 min ago
Yes, I was thinking of a laptop gradually taking the place of my Windows PC, taking up less space, simplifying things and freeing up some desk space in our house. I tried out Remote Desktop because its there. The Epson scanner I have only works with the PC. No real need to access it via the Chromebook at present, although I can. And I can access the scanner on my printer via Wifi directly from the Chromebook although that scanner is not as good as the Epson. A 128 Gb SD card is £35 if its needed. I shant be needing one 16Gb is more than enough for my modest usage. You can get Chromebooks with bigger SSDs. You just have to get out of the mindset that everythings on your HDD, mines in the cloud in several places. But as you say, thats not much good for large maps. Those go on my phone anyway. Getting a laptop out on the road would be somewhat inconvenient.

Al

Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 hours 50 min ago
The same applies to countless situations like.... say, picking one as an example... red light jumping. Where are all the calls saying people on bikes are at fault for not giving way to motor vehicles that pass red and no-one should expect the police to catch RLJers or cameras to be installed or similar?

Re: Route Help for Ealing (W5) to Slough (SL1)

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 hours 56 min ago
For 18 miles I'd be tempted to try the road bike - do you have somewhere at work to leave bits and pieces?

Re: Route Help for Ealing (W5) to Slough (SL1)

CTC Forum - On the road - 3 hours 59 min ago
http://cycle.travel/map?from=w54pa&to=sl14aa
provides an interesting looking route. Normally better than the usual suspects (who assume you are in a slow car)

Garmin eTrex help needed

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 hours 6 min ago
I have a Garmin eTrex Vista HCx which I have used successfully for few years on tours here and abroad. I create tracks on Google Earth or GPSies and then transfer the files to the unit. Thereafter I simply follow the line on the screen. So far so good. But this year, (Next week in fact), I'm flying to Barcelona with the bike and cycling home to Paisley in Scotland. This will be my longest trip ever and will take five weeks. I therefore have 33 days of cycling planned so that's 33 tracks created. The GPS unit's memory will only take 21 of these before the memory is full. Does anyone have a simple to follow suggestion for how I can access the last 12 tracks after I have completed most of the trip and deleted those I have already followed to create memory space ? I have wondered if I could store them in a Dropbox account and get them from there at an internet cafe but I use Garmin's Mapsource on the PC at home to transfer tracks and internet cafes in France are unlikely to have that software. HELP ! I'm going away on Monday 9th and want this sorted before I go.
Cheers
Johnjo

Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

CTC Forum - On the road - 4 hours 20 min ago
I doubt it is a 'grand prix start' mentality so much as a desire not to lose momentum.

Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

CTC Forum - On the road - 4 hours 38 min ago
Hmm, that is almost certainly the case Elliib.

I'm sure you're just making a tongue in cheek "Top Gear'esque comment about references to racing and use of the road, but the point is there - people sometimes treat the roads as a racetrack. We've all read the big "motor racing is dangerous" sign at race tracks. It is - and that's one reason why people are attracted to motor racing. And I'd put cycle racing in the same category. Fine to race where it's controlled and the ones at risk are the ones taking part. Not fine where safety should be a priority - i.e. day in day out on the public highway when innocent people are put at risk - by both cyclists and motorists. Lack of enforcement is again a factor in my view about generally accepted behaviour towards "winning" on the roads.

Re: Chromebook for touring?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 hours 44 min ago
al_yrpal wrote:If you think about it any laptop, phone or tablet needs a wifi connection to do anything useful, but a phone can use the wireless data signal so its more useful, so can a data simm equipped tablet. You can use that as a hotspot to operate a Chromebook.

A lot more to computers than internet access... This is actually a major aspect of why I was never happy with Android (as I spend a lot of time away from wifi etc.)- I find it too dependent on internet connection, and very limited otherwise. Never had an iPad (just an iPhone), but suspect it's not super different, though a lot of colleagues use them. I currently don't have Office installed on my current tablet, but did on the previous, being a full PC though, I can install full programs of any variety. I think other OS' now can use Here Maps, but it was a big selling point to me also- offline maps that are very useable... though it's been a bit buggy lately, grrr. The maps are large downloads though, so...

16Gb is absolutely huge particularly as its likely to be completely empty on a Chromebook. Just 1 Gb can hold up to 250 Music tracks. There is also an SD card slot which you can plug a massive SIMM into if you like. My camera has an 8Gb SIMM, I never use 1/4 of that. These days I think we forget how huge a Gb actually is.

16gb runs out quickly when downloading map files. 32gb did on my last tablet even, once I'd installed office, a few games, and a load of other junk. Yup, got 64gb this time, but installing far less. Still glad I have the 64gb though. I do think Windows is more memory hungry though. Not sure putting a SIMM into an SD slot is much use though... Unless you've installed a mobile broadband card (SD cards go in SD slots, SIMMs go in phones). Was thinking about the size of memory the other day though; my 1st PC had a 3.1gb HD, and I think 0.5gb memory. My 1st computer had 48k and a cassette recorder. The Micro SD in my tablet is more than a million times bigger. That 1st PC though, had Windows 95, office, photoshop and autocad installed (1997); try working out how much space the current equivalents would take up!

Going back to the requirements of your machine, you talk about using your scanner. Do you mean using the Chromebook as a home machine to replace your primary computer then? Remotely controlling that won't help much... unless you only scan one thing that's always sitting on the bed, or you have a remote controlled subject transferring gizmo...

Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 hours 6 min ago
I wonder about the psychology of the situation. Looks like "grand prix start" mentality is a factor here.
Judging by the speed with which he accelerates I'd fancy my chances against him in a bunch sprint

Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 hours 16 min ago
Three points come to my mind on this situation, other than the lorry driver was being cheeky and where's the enforcement? :

1 Look how many cyclists are in front of the stop line waiting to go ahead. Breach of Legislation & HC 175. Cyclists fail. Where's the enforcement?

2 Look how many cyclists go on red and amber. You can only move ahead of the STOP LINE on a green light. Breach of Legislation & HC 176. Cyclists fail again. Where's the enforcement?

3 I wonder about the psychology of the situation. Looks like "grand prix start" mentality is a factor here. Could be that in the mind of the lorry head butting cyclist is more "I've timed this red light just right - I'm going to sail past these losers"? Could it be that was what distracted him?

Re: Route Help for Ealing (W5) to Slough (SL1)

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 hours 55 min ago
jgurney wrote:I'm familiar with the Ealing, Southall and Hounslow areas but have not ridden much between Cranford and Slough.

I'd be tempted to at least try just going straight down the A4. The section from the A30 inwards to South Ealing has cycle paths (albeit not very good ones). I seem to recall noticing on a bus ride between Slough and Langley that there was some sort of cycle facility along the A4 there too.

While the towpath of the Slough Arm was very narrow and muddy last time I walked that way, the towpath of the Grand Union mainline canal from West Drayton to Brentford has a mainly tarmac or paving slab surface and is a reasonable ride although you may have to slow down in places for walkers or fishermen. You could look at using the canal from Hanwell to West Drayton and then use Thorny Mill Road to get to Langley.

In Hanwell, it is better to access the canal from Boston Manor Rd by using Hume's Avenue, St Margaret's Rd and Green Lane rather than via Trumpers Way, to avoid steps, and HGV's going to Trumpers Way industrial estate.

Thanks!

Yeah I think you're right - it's going to have to be canal towpaths, which means mtb.

Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

CTC Forum - On the road - 5 hours 56 min ago
I don't think the statement of being legal or not is an issue.
If a vehicle turns left, wheather legal, un-sited or careless your still dead if you go under it.
Fine, state your right to filter.
But you'll still be dead after the HGV rolls over your head, helmet ot not.
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