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Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 1 hour 29 min ago
Hi,
Out yesterday and toyed with the idea of just a thin sleeved base layer.......shorts and fingerless gloves of course.
BUT that wind...........on with the wind top but it did not last long (15 miles) and sweated all the way home (25 miles) when the sweat lands on my eyelashes I wont be covering up
15 C is always bare all but short sleeves and shorts.
Cycling is one of those sports where fast moving air cools you down, unlike walking 3.5 mph and running greater than 8 mph, you could well be putting in the same effort at 15 mph cycling.

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 hours 32 min ago
s_b wrote:The link North of Stavanger was a headache for us last summer. We found the tourist office in Stavanger to be quite useless for cyclists. The staff were mostly foreign students doing summer jobs. They were well-briefed for the common tourist excursions and accommodation but had little local knowledge for the out of the ordinary.

this was exactly my experience, and it turned out the ferry wasn't running (March). I'd suggest getting onto Warm Showers message board, and trying to find someone in Stavanger who many be able to help you out with finding times, etc. I ended up cycling inland via a ferry to Tau, and then round to Bergen.

I was told the E39 tunnel had a cycle ban, and you needed to use a bus.

Re: North Sea Route - Norway (Kristiansand - Bergen)

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 2 hours 58 min ago
The link North of Stavanger was a headache for us last summer. We found the tourist office in Stavanger to be quite useless for cyclists. The staff were mostly foreign students doing summer jobs. They were well-briefed for the common tourist excursions and accommodation but had little local knowledge for the out of the ordinary.
The tourist office gave us a timetable on Friday afternoon for the Stavanger-Kopervik ferry route which, when we were packing up to go on the Saturday morning we found only ran Mon-Fri.
Better than the tourist office is the local travel planning web site which has all modes of transport and is easy to use:
http://reiseplanlegger.kolumbus.no/scripts/TravelMagic/travelmagicwe.dll/?lang=en

Our solution was a ferry to Nedstrand (some are direct, we had to change at one of the islands) then easy, quiet and pleasant ride across towards Haugesund (we headed North at Aksdal). There are commuter passenger ferries that ply the islands which will take bikes - as well as the Norled car ferries.

The Stavanger-Kopervik ferry is no longer running at all (NB the North Sea cycle route web site confirms this information) so you only have 2 options: ferry to Nedstrand, like we did, or put your bike on the bus that goes through the E39 tunnels (the Kystbus)
https://kystbussen.no/kart.aspx
You can't cycle on this part of the E39.
Timetables for both options are on the Kolumbus site above.

You can still get a ferry to Kvitsoy but the next link North to Skudeneshamn was stopped when the new E39 tunnels opened 2 or 3 years ago. You can see that on the Norled maps here:
https://www.norled.no/en/maps-and-schedules/ferry/rogaland

re. the Kystbus (route Stavanger-Bergen with stops in between). They only take bikes on a standby basis, which means they wait to see if they have space in the hold when the other passengers have loaded. This shouldn't be a problem and buses are frequent. On that route at least bikes cost 60% of the adult fare, which is not cheap.

Camp sites are not so frequent but if you're OK with wild camping you'll be fine. Be careful as not all camp sites accept tents. The camp site at Nedstrand, for example, was a residential one (though one of the residents phoned the owner who was OK about us staying there for a night). There's always at least one camp site within a day's ride, so it's just a question of planning ahead a bit.
Don't go to Brusand camping south of Stavanger though - I must do a post to warn people off that campsite. An alternative is Ogna camping on the cycle route about 5km south of Brusand.

The route was mainly well signposted and easy to follow without detailed maps. We just got our phone out to check the route a couple of times a day when the signing was missing or not clear (using offline maps on Viewranger or OSMand). I'll post some comments and tips on the route another time.

Re: Reducing pannier weight

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 hours 29 min ago
I found the easiest way to lose weight off my bike was to lose it off me... but often the hardest to do... when I did a JOGLE i weighed more at the end....

Re: Cycle Touring Festival - May 2015 - Lancashire

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 hours 53 min ago
Tasker wrote:Geoff.D wrote:I came across this whilst browsing. I found it interesting.

http://www.alastairhumphreys.com/cycle- ... -festival/

From the info I've managed to garner this sounds like a right 'hoot'! £65 indeed!

Loads of middle aged, (and of course, at the weekend), middle class earnest tree huggers. Dressed in the best that the 'Outdoor Adventure Specialists' have to offer - sitting there all serious and taking notes. Think ludicrously expensive bikes unloaded from posh cars a mile down the road from a Trip Advisor hotel - sorry! 'Charming B&B' so they can sit there and be persuaded into booking tickets on a 'carry yer bags Squire?' Cycling adventure in that there Lore vallie......

There's a lot of danger when the middle class/aspiring working class that for so long recently regarded a bloke on a bike as a failure, move in. Perhaps they're hoping to meet some 'interesting Characters too?

What a carefully crafted marketing scam.

I blame Charles for all this. Gotta go like, got to take her down the pub - might even take the wife too. Vote UKIP!

I never thought I would come across a troll on this site....

I am 44 and that counts me as middle aged, but put a few things straight:

1. I built my own bike
2. I am leaving on a trip around the UK & Irish coast and I have done plenty of cycling
3. Tree Huggers absolutely preferable and far more interesting than someone who's only contribution is to deride

I have spoken to the organiser of this event who has funded this up front from her own pocket, and if you think the £65 is expensive then go try doing it on the cheap for yourself, with ticket sales of only 200 and then organising, paying for and insuring the event. Not to mention the abuse from small minded people who without actually trying to do the sums for themselves sit and pontificate, imagine how hurt her feelings have been by this sort of comment "carefully crafted marketing scam" do you even think before you open your mouth??

danger from people moving in???? in to what, since when has there been a barrier on cycling, since when has been on a bike being viewed as a failure???? Voting for UKIP what the hell has that got to do with anything? We are in a democracy vote or not vote for whoever we want to vote, again non of your business that's why voting is private.

Interesting people of course there will be, I suggest getting off your own high horse for a second and consider that whatever reason someone is attending is their own business, if they want to hug trees or take notes good for them, if they want to spend 5 min on their bike or 5 months there's no difference as long as they are doing what makes them happy.

As for ludicrously expensive bikes and posh cars, whats the matter my friend??? If you have earned it you spend it how you please and nothing to do with you or I, such cheap shots again show you for the sort of person you are.

I can't imagine what it must be like to live in the head of someone who gets so offended by other people doing what they enjoy they have to write a post so lacking in constructive comment..

I am so glad you obviously won't be at this event as you would not get anything out of it other than sitting in judgement of other peoples motives, I doubt you have it in you to apologise for the above post so i am most likely wasting my breath. Someone tries to do a little more for the cycling community and you shoot them down says a lot about you as a person they do have a term for it though it's called a keyboard warrior.

Re: Sardina

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 hours 37 min ago
Just uploaded my photos from Sardinia in 2003 to flickr here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/onestia/sets/72157651185539638/ - any questions, just give me a shout.

Re: Cycle Touring Festival - May 2015 - Lancashire

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 hours 52 min ago
Geoff.D wrote:I came across this whilst browsing. I found it interesting.

http://www.alastairhumphreys.com/cycle- ... -festival/

From the info I've managed to garner this sounds like a right 'hoot'! £65 indeed!

Loads of middle aged, (and of course, at the weekend), middle class earnest tree huggers. Dressed in the best that the 'Outdoor Adventure Specialists' have to offer - sitting there all serious and taking notes. Think ludicrously expensive bikes unloaded from posh cars a mile down the road from a Trip Advisor hotel - sorry! 'Charming B&B' so they can sit there and be persuaded into booking tickets on a 'carry yer bags Squire?' Cycling adventure in that there Lore vallie......

There's a lot of danger when the middle class/aspiring working class that for so long recently regarded a bloke on a bike as a failure, move in. Perhaps they're hoping to meet some 'interesting Characters too?

What a carefully crafted marketing scam.

I blame Charles for all this. Gotta go like, got to take her down the pub - might even take the wife too. Vote UKIP!

Re: Sardina

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 6 hours 3 min ago
Thanks

we went out of season, first week in September and the beaches were dead. Got to love the Italians really short high season.

Badesi town was small, though we did get a really nice restaurant meal in it (well it seemed to be after we had drank rather a lot of house red), and the camp site and beach was a bit of a walk away. Seems to have disappeared now anyway. Valledoria definitely seemed to be a tourist seaside resort, rather than having any other intrinsic value like Alghero. they we're mainly stop offs for us and we ended up spending 3 days in Maddelena/Caprera as it was so lovely.

Re: Sardina

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 6 hours 24 min ago
Am impressed by your knowledge of Sardinia Honesty.

I know Badesi and Valledoria.

Though in truth there are nicer places I think.

In season Valledoria/Beadesi beaches are just full of side by side Italians grilling themselves.

And there's not much in Badesi itself.



Some pics of my Sardinia pedalling here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37034456@N06/

They are the pics with the green and cream brommie and orange Dahon Speed Pro.

Re the post above about heat, yes it will be getting hot at the beginning of July but I passed on this being a concern as the OP didn't seem to be planning a major expedition and seemed flexible on how much pedalling they did. So you could pedal at the beginning of the day, stay out of the sun for several hours and then pedal a bin in the evening.

But you do have to be careful of the heat in high seasion - it can very easily hit 35 pushing 40 degrees C.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 7 hours 38 min ago
When I find the safe place I put them in at the beginning of winter

Re: Sardina

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 8 hours 24 min ago
Not cycled but have walked and bussed around the top of Sardinia. We got Ryanair, Stansted to Alghero. Seemed easy enough at the time, even though the pilot informed us on taking off that he had a warning light on the dash but was going to chance it...

Anyway. For Sardinia around the top there were a few stand out things for me.
Alghero. Lovely town, well worth seeing, and a campsite in town right on the beach. Was very busy even though we went in September. La Mariposa was I think what it was called. There's a very nice looking regional park on the headland there, and a national park just north as well. We didn't get to see them as we caught the bus across to Castelsardo.

Castelsardo. Amazing looking town on a rock jutting out into the sea.

La Maddalena islands, especially Caprera. Caprera is a lovely national park, chock full military ruins, from Napoleonic to 2nd world war sea forts. All of which were places that could be investigated. It's also the resting place of Garibaldi and there's his house there you can go around. We stayed at a campsite on Maddalena - Campeggio Maddalena - and it was great. The pitch was a little rocky, but the food on site was excellent.

The other 3 campsites we stayed out in the week or so we were there. One seems to have disappeared around Badesi, one in Valledoria called La Foce - good food again, it's own swimming pool, and a ferry across to the massive long beach on the other side of the river (walking 10 miles along a loose sand beach was a bad idea by the way...), and one call Baia Blu La Tortuga. We stopped there in all honesty because it was called Tortuga. It was a decent site though, even though we couldn't work out how to get hot showers...

We got a ferry from Olbia to Genoa when we left (and went and walked up Monte Tobbio in the Marcarolo park) It took 14 hours, was really smooth and was basically a mini cruise ship. We got an internal cabin and slept as it was an overnight ferry.

Re: Sardina

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 9 hours 3 min ago
Easyjet flies from Gatwick and Luton to Olbia in summer, so you can surely get from Aberdeen to Sardinia in 2 flights, in summer season, and without airport transfer in London, though you'd have to check the flight timings to see how well it works. There must surely also be options via Amsterdam etc. You just need recognise that there are 3 airports in Sardinia, Olbia and Alghero as well as Cagliari.

I think it will be getting very hot in the interior of Sardinia in July. The mountains to the east of centre are really nice, but very hard cycling.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 9 hours 11 min ago
shorts the last week in july maybe my knees and leg bones tend to ache with the slightest of chills. ronhill tracksters most other times plus merino long johns underneath if it's really chilly.

Re: Tour of Brittany

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 11 hours 24 min ago
bretonbikes wrote:simonineaston wrote:Rain or not, I'm off!
On that subject, a small confession... Up thread, I posted a couple of pictures, pointing out - or so I thought - that there's lots of rainy days in Brittany, indeed, I said confidently,"Looking at the columns for May you can see that (although) Brittany gets almost 2x as many days when it rains...".
Well, what a silly chap I am! When I looked again yesterday, I see it's the other way round. Sorry if I misled anyone.

It's OK - even the French weather forecasters have the same problem - if they're not sure they go to default and put 'rain in Brittany' - many's the time we've had a lovely weekend that was supposed to be wet. There is a court case brought by a hotel against 'Le Meteo' going on for that reason! Last year we had the best weather in France for much of the summer (the South had flooding) but no-one ever mentions it) much the same the year before - Grrr. But really all you can say about Brittany is that generally it's 'moderate' - you don't get massive storms, flash floods, heat waves or blizzards - if you can survive a bit of rain then that's the worst that's ever going to happen...

I think I might have been guilty of spreading these rumour too! But in my defence, living in South Devon I always consider the weather in Brittany will be similar to the weather at home - and there is no month you can't expect rain.

Re: Reducing pannier weight

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 11 hours 53 min ago
bainbridge wrote:We're hostelling with the odd hotel so no camping stuff to carry, though my bike isn't touring specific and 13 it's years old:

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All the weight is on the back so I'm trying to keep it to a minimum.

Did you catch whoever stole the other half of your rear mudguard?

Re: Anyone not been hit by a car

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 hours 54 min ago
Never been hit by a car as such. I've had a car pull out from parking at the side of the road, it was too quick for me to swerve, so he just ended up with a door full of my left pedal. Karma.

I also lost control down a gritty lane, and the only effective brake I had was the bonnet of a parked car at the bottom.. Pride dented. Bonnet fine. Although the owner of the car didn't seem to care for my well being, and wondered off when he realised his car was unharmed!

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 11 hours 56 min ago
Mick F wrote:Even the surfer dudes were wandering round the town with hoodies up and tracksuit bottoms plus hands in pockets.

We have those in Bolton too...cept they tend to be drinking bottles of Newcastle Brown with a cig in one hand

Re: getting your priorities right

CTC Forum - On the road - 12 hours 7 min ago
I hit a whoditch in Somebodyville once.

Re: so when do the shorts come out?

CTC Forum - On the road - 12 hours 45 min ago
50odd miles up in the Watergate Bay/Newquay/Perranporth area yesterday.
Damned cold NW gale blowing. I was nearly blown over sideways on a couple of occasions.

Although I sweated a bit on the hills, I was glad of my LS top, base layer, and bib tights.

Shorts?
Good grief!
Even the surfer dudes were wandering round the town with hoodies up and tracksuit bottoms plus hands in pockets.

Re: getting your priorities right

CTC Forum - On the road - 13 hours 34 min ago
Valbrona wrote:I am just waiting for an apparatchik from the 'Inclusive Cycling Secretariat' of the CTC to come along and say that the term 'manhole cover' is non-permissible. I think we are supposed to call them 'access covers' now.

What about personhole? Old version David Chapman a cyclist skidded on a manhole cover in Manchester, new version David Personperson a cyclist skidded on a personhole cover in Personchester.
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