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Re: Cycling the Portuguese coastline

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 October 2014 - 9:40pm
Thanks for your info.. Based on what I've read, the coastline looks like a bit of a no no. I'll reassess and perhaps look at going further inland in Portugal or else look at Spanish routes south instead. Thanks again.

First bike tour with children

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 October 2014 - 9:28pm
I have just done the C2C over three windy days and thoroughly enjoyed it. Absolutely stunning scenery, and a superbly signposted and maintained route. Hats off to Sustrans.
My 10-yr old daughter, who cycles locally quite a bit, is keen to do something similar - ie: a challenge ride, camping each night somewhere new. However, I don't think she's yet up to the hill climbs on the C2C. Can anyone recommend a good route for which (a) we can get to the start and end points via public transport (b) the level of challenge is suitable for a fairly fit but novice 10-yr old on something like a hybrid bike (she's on a mountain bike at present). I think she could happily do 30 miles each day, based upon recent rides we've done together. I want to make the most of her keenness but not put her off in the process. Any ideas welcome. We're based in Nottingham too - something that isn't a million miles to get to would be good.

Re: Is there a case for ding away with juires ....

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 October 2014 - 6:15pm
jezer wrote:I've never been called for jury service, and as I'm not far off 70 (which I believe is the cut off point), ...

They've recently raised the age limit to 75. I have sat on a jury and as I'm also not far off 70, I thought it wouldn't happen again, but it's a bit like raising the age for old age pension and bus passes.

Re: Is there a case for ding away with juires ....

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 October 2014 - 5:37pm
jezer wrote:I mean I'd like to challenge a jury made up of mainly motorists, passing a decision on others like them indicating that vunarable road users have no signifience.
I'm sure you'd try the Defendant strictly on the evidence like the other 11 Jurors, as directed by the Judge . Whatever the verdict "said" would be of no importance in its determination, of course.

Re: knee pain and touring

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 October 2014 - 4:59pm
Saw the consultant 9th October who told me there is a slight improvement in my knee, although there are three bits of bone on the outside of my knee which he is conerned about. I am booked in for another MRI scan at the end of November (the third since July) so I will see what he has got to say after that. My knee does not ache and feels normal, although I suppose it's what is happening underneath that counts. I asked him if I could get back on my bike and he aid yes, but go carefully. If everything fails it will be a new knee cap.

Re: Schwalbe Big Apple or Marathon Supreme

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 October 2014 - 4:13pm
I'm on 1.6 supremes since 2011. Done about 11,000 miles touring and commuting. Mixed surfaces. Swapped back to front once. So far all good, just a few cuts in tread and some gentle wear. No complaints.

Re: Is there a case for ding away with juires ....

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 October 2014 - 4:06pm
I mean I'd like to challenge a jury made up of mainly motorists, passing a decision on others like them indicating that vunarable road users have no signifience.

Re: Is there a case for ding away with juires ....

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 October 2014 - 3:32pm
jezer wrote:I've never been called for jury service, and as I'm not far off 70 (which I believe is the cut off point), it is unlikely to happen now. I would certainly like to be involved with a case involving dangerouse driving, at least to argue the point about motorists at fault in causing death or serious injury to vulnerable road users.
What exactly do you mean?

Re: Is there a case for ding away with juires ....

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 October 2014 - 3:09pm
I've never been called for jury service, and as I'm not far off 70 (which I believe is the cut off point), it is unlikely to happen now. I would certainly like to be involved with a case involving dangerouse driving, at least to argue the point about motorists at fault in causing death or serious injury to vulnerable road users.

Re: Is there a case for ding away with juires ....

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 October 2014 - 3:06pm
Bicycler wrote:It's the legislation that is the problem. Asking juries to decide upon whether something falls below or well below average standards of driving is full of problems. Chief amongst which is the fact that many or most drivers regularly do things which they shouldn't do. The law effectively legitimises types of dangerous driving if they become commonplace. I'd happily have hitting stationary individuals or objects as a strict liability offence. If you hit somebody who is stationary in the road then your driving is self-evidently dangerous unless you can come up with proof of a truly exceptional reason (immediate and total brake failure is the only one which springs to mind) why it happened despite competent driving.
+1
Who's in charge of the vehicle?
The driver
So the driver is liable,it is his/her responsibility to drive safely is it not?
In the case in question the cyclist was absolved of all blame,so the drivers were driving dangerously.
It's that simple.It's that simple as they crashed into him because they couldn't see where they were going.
If you're driving in the UK apparently are able to drive whilst blinded by the sun in the hope there'll be nothing in their way to crash into because that's what you do isn't it?.
In a sane and right thinking society it'd be obvious who were a danger to society.
Unfortunately this isn't a sane and right thinking society.
So a driver can kill someone with a motor vehicle,have a well prepared sob story ready for the trial and get off with either a slap on the wrist or a not guilty verdict.

Is the UK a backward nation?

Re: Is there a case for ding away with juires ....

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 October 2014 - 2:41pm
It's the legislation that is the problem. Asking juries to decide upon whether something falls below or well below average standards of driving is full of problems. Chief amongst which is the fact that many or most drivers regularly do things which they shouldn't do. The law effectively legitimises types of dangerous driving if they become commonplace. I'd happily have hitting stationary individuals or objects as a strict liability offence. If you hit somebody who is stationary in the road then your driving is self-evidently dangerous unless you can come up with proof of a truly exceptional reason (immediate and total brake failure is the only one which springs to mind) why it happened despite competent driving.

Re: Is there a case for ding away with juires ....

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 October 2014 - 2:16pm
Don't like the verdict, so abolish juries.
A very slippery slope, that we are too far down already.

Neil

Re: Bikes on a plane - box or bag?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 October 2014 - 12:58pm
Also think carefully about what you must pack; buying things at the other end can be cheaper than paying to take them.

Re: Bikes on a plane - box or bag?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 October 2014 - 12:56pm
You need to look at the airline regulations size criteria. In general two panniers is less than the maximum size of one hold bag. So a strong lightweight bag (eg a stripey plastic suitcase like bag) with the panniers firmly strapped together inside can work. Strong plastic sacs can work but they do need to be strong; the handlers don't have time to mess about so whatever then grab at has to hold the weight. Secure by twisting then bending over then strong tie.

Handlebar bag on as hand luggage although some get away with a pannier onboard and a bit more stuff inside. You'll probably have to pack differently just for the flight.

You need an airport trolley to carry everything so make it a top priority on arrival.

Re: Is there a case for ding away with juires ....

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 October 2014 - 12:52pm
Even if you got rid of the jury on the grounds of conflict of interest (they're likely to all be drivers, less likely to be cyclists), you would have magistrates / judges who drove to work that morning... Judge / magistrate could issue some kind of instruction etc to the jury to say that driving over someone on the side of the road most definitely fell within the careless / dangerous domain, and the jury should decide which... They issue advice on everything else.

Re: Bikes on a plane - box or bag?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 October 2014 - 9:01am
May I ask how you are taking your other bags / panniers?
I want to take 4 panniers for a long tour.

Re: Is there a case for ding away with juires ....

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 October 2014 - 8:25am
It would be nice to think that the rest of society felt the same way as you or I about inadequate driving when incidents do happen though

Re: Is there a case for ding away with juires ....

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 October 2014 - 8:10am

My thoughts are with the victims family and friends. We've seen outcomes like this too many times before.

The problem lies with driving standards. If driving standards improve then such tragedies should not occur.

Re: A ride too far

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 October 2014 - 6:41am
What a excellent story, and some of my old haunts too.

Is there a case for ding away with juires ....

CTC Forum - On the road - 25 October 2014 - 6:37am
... as they don't appear to want to convict

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/sun-blinded-drivers-who-hit-cyclist-in-sunderland-cleared-of-causing-death-1-6913938. No matter how incompetent or negligent you get to walk free!
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