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Re: Using cycle paths

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 November 2014 - 11:19pm
It's not happened to me yet, but then there are relatively few cycle paths in our area and I don't often go on the roads which have them. Last week, out shopping, my wife and I found our normal route to the supermarket was being resurfaced and impassable, so we took a different road which does have a shared-use pavement. No-one complained - but in fact the cycle path signs are rather small and inconspicuous.

Re: Using cycle paths

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 November 2014 - 11:12pm
Tigerbiten wrote:ukdodger wrote:But then you'd also have scramble bikes ridden by yobbos giving you even worse problems.
How can these -> https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF8& ... 1,,0,-0.14 stop a scrambler ...........

I know I can ride on the grass to bypass this set but why should I.
Most/all of the cycle/shared path around Wellingborough have these type of blockages at the start and finish of them and I cannot use most of them even if I wanted to.
Northampton tends to be slightly better, but I cannot get onto the Brampton Valley Way in Northampton due to an unpassable barrier, I need to go a few miles up the road to get on it and I still have to get off the trike to pass a barrier.

That's not like any M/C barrier I've ever seen. It wouldnt stop anything. Most arent like that.

Re: Is it time for radicalism?

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 November 2014 - 11:10pm
I have an observation that some might find interesting.
Earlier this week I was in Holland. No cycling involved. We were being driven by a locally-based colleague, from the airport to our hotel, on the outskirts of Amsterdam. It took about an hour and a half for a journey that ought to have taken twenty minutes. The motorway was totally snarled up, emergency vehicles were squeezing past on the hard shoulder and hurrying on ahead, but we never saw what had happened. Our colleague tried getting off the motorway but it didn't help much.
Another colleague who was planning to drive from Brussels to meet up with us in Amsterdam, gave up on his journey. It seems that a drive normally taking less than two hours, would have taken him more than four. He returned home and came to meet us the following day. It still took him over four hours.
The point. This is the Netherlands: cycling utopia! The place where all the Western world's traffic problems have been solved at a stroke, simply by making the cyclist paramount and giving him/her the best advantage possible!
So does the Dutch solution work? I really didn't want to come home from Holland a cynic, so reassure me someone!
Or was I just there on a 'bad day' when everything went wrong in the traffic network, in Holland and Belgium both of them?
Lots of things could be said. Yes we should have taken the train, and/or the trams. Perhaps we should have hired bicycles (I have to chuckle though, at the thought of putting the suggestion to my colleagues!)
What I'm thinking is, giving cyclists all the space they need, won't solve all the problems.

Re: Using cycle paths

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 November 2014 - 10:52pm
ukdodger wrote:But then you'd also have scramble bikes ridden by yobbos giving you even worse problems.
How can these -> https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF8& ... 1,,0,-0.14 stop a scrambler ...........

I know I can ride on the grass to bypass this set but why should I.
Most/all of the cycle/shared path around Wellingborough have these type of blockages at the start and finish of them and I cannot use most of them even if I wanted to.
Northampton tends to be slightly better, but I cannot get onto the Brampton Valley Way in Northampton due to an unpassable barrier, I need to go a few miles up the road to get on it and I still have to get off the trike to pass a barrier.

Re: Using cycle paths

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 November 2014 - 10:30pm
Bicycler wrote:But better than nothing.

Well, no, not really. I don't think so anyway. Nothing would at least let all legitimate users make use of the path. I can't say I've noticed a particular prevalence of motorbikes on the innumerable paths and trails without them. What I do see is the problems I and others have with the things. To their credit Sustrans and the CTC hate the ruddy things and try to get them removed where possible.

I have some sympathy where they are introduced to combat a known problem, but they seem to be routinely placed on new paths to counter residents prophecies of doom; a genuine obstruction to a hypothetical problem. In places where there is a problem with motorcycles I can't help but think that there must be better design solutions which don't exclude some cyclists and people with disabilities.

As with all cycle infrastructure we need only look at the continent where these things don't appear to be necessary. Certainly I've rarely had problems with such obstructions on my trips. The way in which visiting cyclists always complain about them indicates that they are not something which cause such a problem at home. Why should our cycle paths require more restrictive barriers than elsewhere?

Possibly because there are certain places where the problem with M/C's is worse.

Re: BT Openreach cyclists stay back

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 November 2014 - 10:29pm
Hey Dynamite - I used to timetrial on that stretch of the A1 ....

Re: Using cycle paths

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 November 2014 - 10:28pm
Tigerbiten wrote:ukdodger wrote:Bicycler wrote:Motorcycle barriers are overrated for their purpose and a nuisance to all kinds of legitimate path users. They are usually installed to prevent a problem which doesn't exist and usually not implemented well enough to prevent local youths who know the area from accessing the route on their bikes anyway.

But better than nothing.
Sorry .........

But nothing is better than the barriers if you have a non-standard bike.

But then you'd also have scramble bikes ridden by yobbos giving you even worse problems.

Re: Eurovelo 7 South to North?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 November 2014 - 10:28pm
I have a cycling friend who's parents live in Malta, Mrs RJS and I had a holiday there, he warned us don't take your bike, its definitely not a very cycle friendly country, roads other than the newest are awful, think uneven patches with pot holes for the worst. The people, when they aren't in their cars, are wonderful and friendly, most speak English. If you enjoy history and architecture, there is just so much to see. What with the small independent Bakery's, butchers, the fish market, and nice warm weather, (Easter), we had a wonderful time, but glad we didn't take the bike.
Cheers, Rob.

Re: Using cycle paths

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 November 2014 - 10:27pm
But better than nothing.

Well, no, not really. I don't think so anyway. Nothing would at least let all legitimate users make use of the path. I can't say I've noticed a particular prevalence of motorbikes on the innumerable paths and trails without them. What I do see is the problems I and others have with the things. To their credit Sustrans and the CTC hate the ruddy things and try to get them removed where possible.

I have some sympathy where they are introduced to combat a known problem, but they seem to be routinely placed on new paths to counter residents prophecies of doom; a genuine obstruction to a hypothetical problem. In places where there is a problem with motorcycles I can't help but think that there must be better design solutions which don't exclude some cyclists and people with disabilities.

As with all cycle infrastructure we need only look at the continent where these things don't appear to be necessary. Certainly I've rarely had problems with such obstructions on my trips. The way in which visiting cyclists always complain about them indicates that they are not something which cause such a problem at home. Why should our cycle paths require more restrictive barriers than elsewhere?

Re: Using cycle paths

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 November 2014 - 10:21pm
ukdodger wrote:Bicycler wrote:Motorcycle barriers are overrated for their purpose and a nuisance to all kinds of legitimate path users. They are usually installed to prevent a problem which doesn't exist and usually not implemented well enough to prevent local youths who know the area from accessing the route on their bikes anyway.

But better than nothing.
Sorry .........

But nothing is better than the barriers if you have a non-standard bike.

Re: Eurovelo 7 South to North?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 November 2014 - 10:07pm
If not CGOAB then Google is your friend.
Also try looking up "Ciclopista Del Sole" which is the Italian part of EV-7
Have you seen -> http://italy-cycling-guide.info/cyclewa ... urovelo-7/

Re: Favourite country?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 November 2014 - 10:06pm
smith4188 wrote:Eastern Europe, particularly Bosnia, Macedonia and Montenegro. Beautiful scenery, very cheap and nicely weird.

I really loved Serbia - partly cos I was feeling homesick and the rolling limestone valleys in the east reminded me of the North Pennines.

Belgrade is a cracking city, and the Fruska Gora National Park just to the south of Novi Sad is amazing.

Re: Using cycle paths

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 November 2014 - 10:05pm
Bicycler wrote:Motorcycle barriers are overrated for their purpose and a nuisance to all kinds of legitimate path users. They are usually installed to prevent a problem which doesn't exist and usually not implemented well enough to prevent local youths who know the area from accessing the route on their bikes anyway.

But better than nothing.

Re: Reivers coast to coast on skinny tires?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 November 2014 - 9:51pm
Pah. I ride round there on fixed before breakfast

What was your route?

Re: Eurovelo 7 South to North?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 November 2014 - 9:45pm
Thank you, but I failed to find anything on crazyguyonabike. If there's anything I've missed, I'd be grateful for the link.

Re: Eurovelo 7 South to North?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 November 2014 - 9:28pm
I'd check on "Crazy Guy on a Bike" -> https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/ if anyone has written a blog on that route.

Luck ...........

Eurovelo 7 South to North?

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 November 2014 - 9:11pm
Can anyone give any information about the southern part of the route? We're thinking of setting off next year and doing the route in stages. So it'd be really good if anyone can help out on:
- cycling in Malta. It looks to be a bit of a nightmare, is this right?
- maps for the southern section as far as Rome
- whether going south to north is the best way of going about it.

Many thanks

Re: Touring Cassette

CTC Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 November 2014 - 8:57pm
Your front chainwheels are not exactly small, so I would go for a cassette with 34t. There are parts of the UK where with luggage even this is not light enough gearing. With modern 9 or 10 sp cassettes, there is no longer a real downside to wider ratio cassettes, unless you are on a road bike in Holland.

Re: Is it time for radicalism?

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 November 2014 - 8:25pm
Tom Richardson wrote:I think the relevance of this:


Early in this government term David Cameron promised that the primary objective of government policy would be to increase GDP. The unfettered and universal use of the private motor car makes a massive contribution to GDP. It isn't good for human well-being but its very effective economically: purchase of cars, running costs, parking charges, healthcare spinoffs, road repairs and so on all make a big contribution to GDP. Look at the business that a serious road crash generates - tow trucks, car repairs, heath treatments, legal services, insurance claims & etc. And at consumer emporiums like Meadowhall - ok there's train, trams and buses but principally dedicated to getting people to cart consumer goods away by private car. All good for GDP. And then the more that people become tied to car use the more they depend on it. The more that people depend on it the less likely they are to upset the system with radicalism.

There's a common practice in modern politics of stating something regularly so that people eventually start to think they mean it even though they don't. Politicians might say that they support cycling but their actions show otherwise. Ultimately no political party can genuinely support cycling as a common form of transport in place of the private car while they're hung up on gdp.

Does it? Yes we manufacture plenty of cars for export in this country, and this industry has increased when european sales have gone down which is a good thing in some respects. But how does actual car use increase GDP, or should that be how can you explain how the country as a whole is subsidising motoring and the massive net negative effect motoring has on the economy overall?

it does need what for some would seem radical changes, for me and plenty of others they are logical changes.

Re: Is it time for radicalism?

CTC Forum - On the road - 23 November 2014 - 8:15pm
sirmy wrote:The roads are dangerous.... .... but only when used

No, the people using the roads are dangerous, the roads simply lie there and do nothing. How can a stationary, inanimate object be dangerous

Well,TBH that's what I meant,sorry if I didn't make that clear.
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